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Osama Bin Laden is dead
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- cashman57, on 05/16/2008, -1/+12The reason we have not seen a video of the rat bastard is because he's dead and gone.
My only regret is that I do not know where he is buried so I can erect an outhouse there.- Conspiracy20, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10September 28, 2001: Bin Laden Again Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks
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Bin Laden says in an interview, “I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States (see September 16, 2001). As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of battle.… The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the US system but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology can survive. They may be anyone, from Russia to Israel and from India to Serbia. In the US itself, there are dozens of well-organized and well-equipped groups capable of causing large-scale destruction. Then you cannot forget the American Jews, who have been annoyed with President Bush ever since the Florida elections and who want to avenge him.… Then there are intelligence agencies in the US, which require billions of dollars worth of funds from Congress and the government every year.… They needed an enemy.… Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United Sates? That secret government must be asked who carried out the attacks.” [Daily Ummat (Karachi), 9/28/2001]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden- cashman57, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3That flies in the face of syayements by him during the event and he foretold of four planes crashing into buildings which would have happened if Americans aboard one flight decided they had enough and were not going to be killed without a fight. Tell me why I should believe anything that rat bastard has said since the attacks. Didn't he also say they would fight to the death to keep America out of Afghanistan?Yet instead he ran away like a punk into Pakistan where he died.
- Conspiracy20, on 05/16/2008, -1/+7I'm simply questioning what we do or do not know. Did YOU hear him say these things or were you told. The US government stated that he admitted to 9/11 and yet it doesn't seem he has. Weren't we told they ALWAYS take credit? please go to the FBI site now and you'll see...
Most Wanted:
Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
They don't mention 9/11. I'm just curious as to why.
- Conspiracy20, on 05/16/2008, -1/+7I'm simply questioning what we do or do not know. Did YOU hear him say these things or were you told. The US government stated that he admitted to 9/11 and yet it doesn't seem he has. Weren't we told they ALWAYS take credit? please go to the FBI site now and you'll see...
- cashman57, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3That flies in the face of syayements by him during the event and he foretold of four planes crashing into buildings which would have happened if Americans aboard one flight decided they had enough and were not going to be killed without a fight. Tell me why I should believe anything that rat bastard has said since the attacks. Didn't he also say they would fight to the death to keep America out of Afghanistan?Yet instead he ran away like a punk into Pakistan where he died.
- Conspiracy20, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10September 28, 2001: Bin Laden Again Denies Involvement in 9/11 Attacks
- rexblade, on 05/16/2008, -0/+16Id like to see this discussed in the media (Keith Olberman?) next time there is a conveniently released audio tape that just so happens to help the neo-cons push some sort of bill or to justify more war.
- Look4Truth, on 05/16/2008, -3/+14But...but...the boob tube said he's alive and he's going to bomb us! I'm so scared! I hope our loving government saves us!
- imacommi, on 05/16/2008, -0/+11I've suspected that this might be the case for a long time. But even in the event of this crappy website telling me this I would hope to see some real evidence that this is true. Although I tend to think it probably is...
- V3n0M, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7This is still not *hard* evidence... But what if you heard it from former Pakistani PM Benazhir Buttho (who was assassinated for some reason...)?
Start listening around 5:33 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ
(This was on digg awhile ago, but you (or some other reader) may have missed it)
- V3n0M, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7This is still not *hard* evidence... But what if you heard it from former Pakistani PM Benazhir Buttho (who was assassinated for some reason...)?
- ad33lshahid, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8Source:
The Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006, and Ithaca Journal, June 29, 2006
Title: “FBI says, ‘No Hard Evidence Connecting Bin Laden to 9/11’”
Author: Ed Haas
Osama bin Laden’s role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not mentioned on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted” poster.
On June 5, 2006, author Ed Haas contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters to ask why, while claiming that bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 1998 bombings of US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the poster does not indicate that he is wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” Asked to explain the process, Tomb responded, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”
Haas pauses to ask the question, “If the US government does not have enough hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11, how is it possible that it had enough evidence to invade Afghanistan to ‘smoke him out of his cave?’” Through corporate media, the Bush administration told the American people that bin Laden was “Public Enemy Number One,” responsible for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people on September 11, 2001. The federal government claims to have invaded Afghanistan to “root out” bin Laden and the Taliban, yet nearly six years later, the FBI said that it had no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.
Though the world was to have been convinced by the December 2001 release of a bin Laden “confession video,” the Department of Defense issued a press release to accompany this video in which Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said, “There was no doubt of bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks even before the tape was discovered.”
In a CNN article regarding the bin Laden tape, then New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said that “the tape removes any doubt that the US military campaign targeting bin Laden and his associates is more than justified.” Senator Richard Shelby, R-Alabama, the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said, “The tape’s release is central to informing people in the outside world who don’t believe bin Laden was involved in the September 11 attacks.” Shelby went on to say “I don’t know how they can be in denial after they see this tape.”
Haas attempted to secure a reference to US government authentication of the bin Laden “confession video,” to no avail. However, it is conclusive that the Bush Administration and US Congress, along with corporate media, presented the video as authentic. So why doesn’t the FBI view the “confession video” as hard evidence? After all, notes Haas, if the FBI is investigating a crime such as drug trafficking, and it discovers a video of members of a drug cartel openly talking about a successful distribution operation in the United States, that video would be presented to a federal grand jury. The participants identified in the video would be indicted. The video alone would serve as sufficient evidence to net a conviction in a federal court. So why, asks Haas, is the bin Laden “confession video” not carrying the same weight with the FBI?
Haas strongly suggests that we begin asking questions, “The fact that the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Osama bin Laden to 9/11 should be headline news around the world. The challenge to the reader is to find out why it is not. Why has the US media blindly read the government-provided 9/11 scripts, rather than investigate without passion, prejudice, or bias, the events of September 11, 2001? Why has the US media blacklisted any guest that might speak of a government-sponsored 9/11 cover-up, rather than seeking out those people who have something to say about 9/11 that is contrary to the government’s account?” Haas continues. “Who is controlling the media message, and how is it that the FBI has no ‘hard evidence’ connecting Osama bin Laden to the events of September 11, 2001, while the US media has played the bin Laden-9/11 connection story for [six] years now as if it has conclusive evidence that bin Laden is responsible for the collapse of the twin towers, the Pentagon attack, and the demise of United Flight 93?”
UPDATE BY ED HAAS
On June 6, 2006 the Muckraker Report ran a piece by Ed Haas titled “FBI says, ‘No hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.’” Haas is the editor and a writer for the Muckraker Report. At the center of this article remains the authenticity and truthfulness of the videotape released by the federal government on December 13, 2001 in which it is reported that Osama bin Laden “confesses” to the September 11, 2001 attacks. The corporate media—television, radio, and newspapers—across the United States and the world repeated, virtually non-stop for a week after the videotape’s release, the government account of OBL “confessing.”
However, not one document has been released that demonstrates the authenticity of the videotape or that it even went through an authentication process. The Muckraker Report has submitted Freedom of Information Act requests to the FBI, CIA, Department of Defense, and CENTCOM requesting documentation that would demonstrate the authenticity of the videotape and the dates/circumstances in which the videotape was discovered. CENTCOM has yet to reply to the FOIA request. After losing an appeal, the FBI responded that no documents could be found responsive to the request. The Department of Defense referred the Muckraker Report to CENTCOM while also indicating that it had no documents responsive to the FOIA request either.
The CIA however claims that it can neither confirm nor deny the existence or nonexistence of records responsive to the request. According to the CIA the fact of the existence or nonexistence of requested records is properly classified and is intelligence sources and methods information that is protected from disclosure by section 6 of the CIA Act of 1949, as amended. Therefore, the Agency has denied your request pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(1) and (b)(3).
Many people believe that if the videotape is authentic, it should be sufficient hard evidence for the FBI to connect bin Laden to 9/11. The Muckraker Report agrees. However, for the Department of Justice to indict bin Laden for the 9/11 attacks, something the government has yet to do, the videotape would have to be entered into evidence and subjected to additional scrutiny. This appears to be something the government wishes to avoid.
Some believe that the video is a fake. They refer to it as the “fat bin Laden”video. The Muckraker Report believes that while the videotape is indeed authentic, it was the result of an elaborate CIA sting operation. The Muckraker Report also believes that the reason why there is no documentation that demonstrates that the videotape went through an authenticity process is because the CIA knew it was authentic, they arranged the taping.
It is highly probable that the videotape was taped on September 26, 2001—before the US invaded Afghanistan - PlagueOfMorons, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8If Americans see yet another blurred videotape from a Bin Laden lookalike, we'll know he's not dead. I predict the tape will say "I demand you vote for Obama, he's our man." In the background you'll also hear Karl Rove snickering.
- brokencrystal, on 05/18/2008, -1/+2Just pay attention to what hand he is using. In some of the supposed Bin Laden videos, the guy portraying Bin Laden was eating and writing with the wrong hand.
- zerocool1990, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7Well what do you know about Osama ? For all you know he was working with the CIA and maybe still is..
- AlwaysAwake, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3While a possibility exists that Usama was allowed to manipulate the stock market, as a payoff for his part in 9/11, we will probably never know. It is almost a certainty he is dead of natural causes, or otherwise.
- Berkana, on 05/24/2008, -0/+1They won't tell us because he's too convenient as a boogey-man for the government to scare us with.
- InsideJob11Sep, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Osama bin-Forgotten = Emmanuel Goldstein in Orwell's 1984!
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