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- kemp34, on 03/23/2009, -4/+54Why is the CIA always into some stone cold evil *****?
- novenator, on 03/23/2009, -5/+47So THATS how they got all of the intel on it.
- inactive, on 03/23/2009, -6/+45Want to bet in a few years that in a few years they will say that the entire break up of Yugoslavia was an organized operation to break up a fairly independent and resource rich country in a series of tiny banana republic client states?
- novenator, on 03/23/2009, -4/+40westvaco, I think the breakup was engineered because the US wanted hegemony over the region, and the Serbian controlled govt was and always will be loyal to Russia. It has even gone so far as to grant a region within Serbia, Kosovo to become an independent entity. How would we feel if Hispanic majority areas of the US suddenly wanted independence? That's how the Serbs feel.
- Alheithinn, on 03/23/2009, -9/+34Nice. And I'm with you, Firstdaughter. Here we had Gen. Wesley Clark bravely trying to stop the genocide and being criticized for it (and seeing his career tank because of it) and the CIA is busy promoting it.
- mythicflux, on 03/23/2009, -0/+21Because that, unfortunately, was what they were created to do.
- MonkeyOverlord, on 03/23/2009, -3/+20"The claim that from 1992 until the end of the decade, Jovica Stanisic, head of Serbia's murderous DB Secret Police, was regularly informing his CIA handlers of the thinking in Milosevic's inner circle has shocked the region."
That doesn't make him a "CIA agent." Of course, this is the same media that says that a semi-automatic AK-47 is an "assault rifle," that frequently cannot get anything right about video games and kids, and that spends half of its time trying to rile up the public over one perceived crisis or another. - chthonical, on 03/23/2009, -3/+19So that's where Israel got the idea to put their own intelligence officer into a high ranking position in the Georgian government. Huh.
Gotta love the esoteric ***** that is politics. - ZackScott, on 03/23/2009, -0/+15So after reading the article...my question is...
1. Was he acting on behalf of the CIA to do the death squad stuff?
2. Was he simply reporting to the CIA and was taking no direction from them?
3. None of the above? - kadio, on 03/23/2009, -0/+14The general population DOES need to know about...for the exact reason that they may NOT be OK with those trade-offs being made. That's the whole idea of an open and free society. Your idea that the government is always working for some greater goal that makes it OK to act illegally or immorally is foolish at best, and enabling of tyranny at worst.
- sodade, on 03/23/2009, -1/+14Because they have no public oversight. "boo hoo - we need to do everything in secrecy" ***** YOUR SECRETS - the price we pay for them is WAY too high for the (supposed) benefit.
- jotchie, on 03/23/2009, -2/+13How do you get through your day being dugg down so much?
- misterrock, on 03/23/2009, -2/+13it looks like we were just collecting intel from him. not giving him orders to kill people.
- inactive, on 03/23/2009, -3/+13Nothing to see here folks, move along now.
- jba68, on 03/23/2009, -0/+10your fine with it, I'm not considering they are not even one of the top intelligence agencies in the world. They were constantly being bested by the KGB during the cold war.
oh yea... nice work on the WMD thing.... - SpinningHead, on 03/23/2009, -0/+10Theres a book out now called Legacy of Ashes. Apparently, Eisenhower condemned the head of the CIA when he left and said he had left him with a "legacy of ashes". The story is that Ike was pissed that they had gone from being an agency to keep the president informed to being an agency that actively manipulated global political power.
- inactive, on 03/23/2009, -1/+11I'm sorry, but where does it say the CIA was promoting the genocide?
I read it twice and all it said was that this guy was a CIA informant who gave them info on what Milosevic was up to. - inactive, on 03/23/2009, -3/+11Im not surprised
- inactive, on 03/23/2009, -7/+14No, people dicking around on the internet are telling you they are. For some reason you think it's true.
- RennyB, on 03/23/2009, -1/+7The break up of Yugoslavia was was not in the United States' best interest, and the Kosovo question is more complicated than you acknowledge. At what point does a nation lose the right to administer a territory, and when does a population acquire the right to political self-determination? I remember the terms of the Military Technical Agreement in 1999 which stated that Kosovo would not become an independent state. I also remember seeing the destruction and death caused by the Serbian forces as well as the brutal reprisals by Albanians against the remaining Serbs. Not to be flippant, but it's like a bad breakup, sometimes things get so ***** up there's no fixing them. Despite the earlier assurances that Kosovo would remain part of Serbia, it's hard to see how that would really work. As for the CIA stuff, it just says that Stanisic was a top CIA source in Yugoslavia, NOT that his actions were directed by the CIA. Make sense, the folk in a position to provide information about a corrupt government are usually pretty bad guys themselves.
- seanstuart, on 03/23/2009, -0/+6Say that loud enough and Pat Buchanan will hear.
- atomheartmother, on 03/23/2009, -2/+7I suppose it would make more sense fro the CIA to look for informants from within the ranks of friends, then? Does that seem like it would be effective?
- xam217, on 03/23/2009, -1/+6So it turns out the CIA operatives are the weapons of fate. Kill one save one thousand.
- Coinspinner, on 03/24/2009, -0/+5That certainly makes data collection much easier, when you are the one planning it.
- axehind, on 03/23/2009, -3/+8buried for misleading title. He was someone the CIA used for info. Not a actual CIA agent.
- paintgrl, on 03/23/2009, -4/+9Why am I not surprised? Because I have read way to many spy stories that's why ;P
- richmomz, on 03/23/2009, -2/+7It looks that way, but who knows... it wouldn't be the first time the CIA got caught paling around with a bunch of militant thugs. *cough* Iran Contra *cough* Soviet/Afghan war *cough*
- Firstdaughter, on 03/24/2009, -0/+5Bc unlike you rlh - I have hope for the future of America.
- sodade, on 03/23/2009, -0/+5The CIA is directly responsible for Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan (just to pull easy examples). If you don't realize that you and I both are paying for the CIA's criminal actions, then you are a deluded puppy.
- mohajaf, on 03/23/2009, -3/+8I have no love lost for CIA but still, your headline is misleading: it sounds like CIA was behind the murders.
- jedisushi, on 03/23/2009, -3/+8The headline is misleading due to terminology. While CIA assets are in fact called 'agents,' that term has been popularized by the media/movies, etc. to refer to CIA employees, who are actually 'officers.' This article describes nothing new or sinister. Relax.
- inactive, on 03/23/2009, -0/+4There may have been intel about the crimes, but you need highly placed informants to get intel about plans, etc.
You didn't read the article, did you? - jba68, on 03/23/2009, -1/+5Yea, his career tanked when he wanted to turn that into WW III. The British were like helllz no GTFO Clark.
- partysan, on 03/23/2009, -1/+5There are many Russophiles in Serbia.
- MatthewDuke, on 03/23/2009, -3/+7What would be the benefit of putting all Americans in death camps? Wouldn't it be better to have us all out working and paying taxes?
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 03/23/2009, -1/+4The article says clearly is was 2.
The title is inaccurate BS. - BabyWookie, on 03/23/2009, -3/+6This is not, at all, out of character for the CIA. After all, they had openly trained and supplied the right-wing death squads and Central and South America in the early 80's.
- Vullkan, on 03/23/2009, -8/+11I'm from Kosovo, Albanian, and it's hard to digest this, afterall the United States helped us a lot. They freed us from the terror of Milosevic.
And I hope Serbs won't burry this article, like they did before in anti serbia or pro kosovo related articles. - vxp19, on 03/23/2009, -1/+4But is it the same media that constantly calls an AK-74 a "AK-47"?
Is it also the same media that calls any AK-1xx series an "AK-47" ? - richmomz, on 03/23/2009, -2/+5Albanian pop music?
- MonkeyOverlord, on 03/23/2009, -0/+3"Loyal to Russia?" Tell that to Marshal Tito...
- richmomz, on 03/23/2009, -1/+4No it doesn't - it states that he was working for the CIA, which is true.
- partysan, on 03/23/2009, -0/+3B92 is to hardline Serbs what Fox News is to diggers. They will not like this story because of course Vatican and the bloodthirsty Germans and Americans were out to destroy the Serbs through states that wanted independence. Never could one of their leaders be in the same bed with the US.
- phramus, on 03/23/2009, -2/+4I think there's some ***** here. I doubt very seriously that Jovica Stanisic was a CIA agent at all, much less a "top" one. For one thing, he couldn't get the clearance. The guy was simply a source. A "source" is hardly the same as an "agent". No reason to get yer panties all tied in a knot. Buried as *****.
- lostlyrics, on 03/24/2009, -0/+2According to the newspaper, Stanišić with this confirmed a
number of claims by LA Times journalists about his cooperation
with the CIA, but denied that he gave away secrets.
In effect, Stanišić suggests he did cooperate with the CIA,
but he did not work for them, says Blic.
Asked if it was correct that in 1991 then CIA chief
John Deutch came to Belgrade where he spoke not
only with him but also with Milošević, Stanišić responded briefly:
“That was not 1991, but 1995, but I told you, I don’t talk to the media.
You came to my door and now I have to close it.”
The LA Times article claims that Stanišić was the CIA’s main man for
the Balkans, and that the CIA submitted a confidential document to the
Hague Tribunal containing proof of the help he offered them.
Stanišić has been accused of war crimes by The Hague-based
UN court, but has been temporarily released due to ill health and
is currently in Belgrade. - lostlyrics, on 03/24/2009, -0/+2nope, this time it was clinton's fault
preceded by great a blunder of the eu.
story is lame - tudzhman knew cia better. :p - batleycraig, on 03/24/2009, -1/+3Dr. Radovan Karadic (shrink extraordinaire) started this whole mess... he is currently on trial at the Hague, also. One of the most suppressed stories of the century. This whole war was entirely misrepresented as a conflict in some backwards country..when in fact the Winter olympics had been held there the year before... in Sarajevo (the former yugoslavia)
With a tow million dollar budget, right up front for CIA operations...insanity reigns.
Just the youtube video.. 'Crack the CIA' is reason eneough to shut them down.
if you get a chance...check out my favorite for today..yer gonna love it.
by the way .. I am apolitical so.. anybody who wants to dis me... try looking up that word first..
I grow weary of left right and center labels from poor misguided illiterates...who could not define any of the words they use in so called political banter... which is just make the other guy wrong.. and name calling.
The sooner we all realize that no political system is superior the quicker we will have peace on this backwards ball of mud.
All you have now is discourse.. that may as well be 'divide and conquer.' - davechua, on 03/25/2009, -0/+2They should have sent in Jack Bauer to kick his ass.
- Vullkan, on 03/24/2009, -0/+2well ok smilodon but we have been in kosovo for thousand of years, and serbs came from russia (via carpates). when the otoman empire lost they had to give lands they occupied through centuries, so serbia monte negro, macedonia and greece gained from our lands. The serbs colonized kosovo. they said it's a war against muslims which is not true, we have muslims Catholics and orthodox. They just wanted our precious land rich in minerals and quality soil. The medieval age orthodox churches built by albanians and Byzantines where taken by serbs and claimed to be their ancient culture churches.
read further more about Illyria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyria - SparkKnot, on 03/24/2009, -0/+2B92 is actually very independent and unbiased... so much so that they get hated on by Serbian politicians themselves ;)
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