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- LtDanP, on 11/07/2009, -2/+11***** YOU WHALE AND ***** YOU DOLPHIN!!!
- anonymousmedic, on 11/07/2009, -1/+9Tragic Compared to the annihilation of the entire Japanese civilization, and the death of Millions of Allied Forces in the invasion and occupation of the Japanese Isles?
The simple fact of the matter is that a horrific event was necessary to take away the will of the majority government at the time who wanted to fight to the last man, woman, and child. Far more would have been killed and mamed by an invasion that have been harmed by Nagasaki and Hiroshima. - anonymousmedic, on 11/07/2009, -0/+7Oppenheimer cried for a reason when he saw what he had created for the first time. He knew what he had made would end the war, but he also realized the terrible price humanity would pay for it, and that the world would never be the same.
- nepidae, on 11/07/2009, -0/+6Visiting Hiroshima and Nagasaki had a huge impact on me, similar to visiting Pearl Harbor. The entire thing was terribly tragic and I think some of our current day leaders could learn a whole lot if they had a history lesson.
- Mangeof, on 11/07/2009, -0/+6It's crazy that all it took was a catchy name : M.A.D. to pretty much save us all.
- appleseed1234, on 11/07/2009, -0/+6Nuclear Launch Detected.
- nepidae, on 11/07/2009, -0/+6To be honest I think it is actually a testament to human self-preservation that we in fact did not kill ourselves off after WW2.
- inactive, on 11/07/2009, -5/+11This is disputed by many scholars.
Correction
This is disputed by many liberal limp wrist cowardly and anti-american scholars. - WordsnCollision, on 11/06/2009, -0/+5Puttin' on my binuculars!
- xkorbin, on 11/07/2009, -0/+5Hello, I'm Mister Burke..
- nepidae, on 11/07/2009, -1/+5Oh I think you misunderstand me. I do not think it was the wrong decision, but it (and the entire war) still was very tragic. Both the non-nuclear and nuclear.
- whatthefu, on 11/07/2009, -0/+3Look, we can justify it but that doesn't mean we can't also mourn the lives of the innocent who did die in the bombings.
- GoldDigger85, on 11/07/2009, -2/+5i on behalf of south-east asia thank the US for dropping that two atomic bomb on japan soil if not the war/massacre in asia would continue and more people will die for no reason
- stilesja, on 11/07/2009, -1/+3My neighbor brought me a glass full of Woodford Reserve tonight so I can't even tell if you agree with me or not.
- hereticoftruth, on 11/07/2009, -2/+4So, how is the military industrial complex going to celebrate it?
- nepidae, on 11/07/2009, -1/+2It is true that we can only speculate, however you as well can only speculate. We know that the Japanese were invading China, we also know that Russia was going to join the US in attacking Japan. Those two facts alone are scary. We saw what happened to Germany and specifically Berlin for what, 43 years, imagine if that had included both China and Japan?
- aolley, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1I read that there wasn't enough time to create the amount of radioactive material needed to make the first A-bombs, based on the output potential of the refineries in the US at the time; and that some of the material must have come from the Nazis. Anyone else heard similar things?
- gsm54321, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1Exactly, we have had the ability to destroy this plant for over 50 years and we haven't. That might not seem like much of an accomplishment by itself, but looking back at history, it really is.
- stilesja, on 11/07/2009, -1/+2If anyone else pulled the trigger first we'd all be watching their economy now.
- Suricou, on 11/07/2009, -2/+35 megstons.
That's it? The largest nuclear test conducted by the US was five megatons?
That's pathetic! The soviets had one ten times that size.
Edit: Correction, that was the largest one at the time. The largest US nuclear detonation to date is a whole 15MT... which is still pathetic compared to the 50MT soviet record. Even though the soviet bomb was so big no plane or missile could carry it. - bdbr, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1I grew up during the cold war, and the thing that always amazed me is that people never seemed to grasp the power of the current nuclear weapons. The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 15 kilotons - tiny in comparison to the multi-megaton monsters of which both sides had thousands. Its hard to imagine how disastrous even one of those might have been if dropped on a city.
- bdbr, on 11/07/2009, -0/+1There were more civilians killed in the invasion of tiny Okinawa than in the Hiroshima bombing, and Nagasaki was far fewer than either. Attacking the mainland would have resulted in huge American losses, but even worse Japanese civilian losses.
- docimodo, on 11/07/2009, -1/+1would have been just as effective if they dropped it on a military base or on a naval fleet at sea or even just off the coast at sea...
Nothing will justify killing innocents when there are other options. killing innocents is simply terrorism. - baddigga, on 11/07/2009, -0/+0*Cheekan andu Caauw
- diplo, on 11/07/2009, -1/+1What, nobody's mentioned Raven yet?
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/07/2009, -5/+5"...necessary to take away the will of the majority government at the time who wanted to fight to the last man, woman, and child."
This is disputed by many scholars. It amounts to a claim made as a sop to those whose consciences are shaken by the magnitude of the events.
If it makes you feel better, keep telling yourself this story, but there is no way to know what events would have transpired if the bombs were not dropped. Blockades had already strangled Japan and many contend a capitulation was inevitable without the use of the atomic bomb.
'They would have fought to the last woman and child' is pure speculation and not based on any real evidence at all; a dehumanization of the Japanese. - katana0182, on 11/07/2009, -1/+1The Americans will never admit they were wrong in doing what they did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Japanese will never admit they might have done quite a few very wrong things that could have provoked anyone fighting them to do what was done there. These are matters of face, of national honor (国家の品格). And he-said, she-said, he-did, she-did, they-said, they-did guilt-tripping about the past when most of the guilty and the innocent, the victors and the vanquished, aren't even alive anymore, is stupid.
Guilt trips about the past don't build a future.
All that we can do, regardless of our nationalities, is to build a future where we vow never to let ancient mistakes happen again, regardless of what they are. That means beating the swords of Armageddon into the plowshares of peace, turning them from megatons into megawatts, stopping the arms-races and building a world where neither a war of aggression waged by a militaristic clique for territorial aggrandizement, nor atomic bombings of cities, can happen anymore. - nepidae, on 11/07/2009, -1/+1And anyone being USSR. Hell, if we had done a conventional attack then the USSR would have joined in and that could have been devastating.
- akamurph, on 11/07/2009, -2/+1What was the point to that story?
- inactive, on 11/07/2009, -3/+0I heard that guy was a communist.
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