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- Wosat, on 11/09/2009, -7/+139Zero tolerance = Zero thought
- Cabose, on 11/09/2009, -4/+69Like there's nothing more to worry about than a piercing.
I don't personally care if it was for cultural or religious reasons, the girl got her nose pierced. OOOooooo. Stop the presses. - JDLamb88, on 11/09/2009, -4/+65Ah, dress codes. Just one of the many ways schools condition you for a life of same-ness. Who do they think they are, making hot chicks cover their navels. That's the best part!
- Spartakip, on 11/09/2009, -0/+41But what if she instigates a pandemic of nose piercings! can you imagine a class room full of seventh grade girls with their noses pierced? Shocking!
- coraleaterlinda, on 11/09/2009, -3/+34Seriously, who give a crap if she gets a nose piercing? The people who made this decision are a bunch of retards.
- votic, on 11/09/2009, -6/+32lol welcome to utah schools, in junior high i was suspended for drawing beavers in my math class, once for spraying perfume in a smelly class, again for kicking a boy at church on a sunday, who went to the school about it, and finally expulsion for saying "what up black girl?" after a friend said "what up white boy?" to my knowledge they now suspend kids for having a phone out during lunch time.
- Spartakip, on 11/09/2009, -6/+28Wyoming here
Utah sucks! - Bookant, on 11/09/2009, -1/+22You seem to be speaking the language of England rather than any of the Native American dialects.
ASSIMILATE OR GET YOUR WORTHLESS ASS BACK TO EUROPE WHERE YOU CAME FROM! - lisaawesome, on 11/09/2009, -1/+22My friend got suspended for adjusting her breasts in high school. She wasn't doing anything sexual or provocative simply readjusting things just like guys readjust their balls. They called it sexual harassment.
- enantiodromia, on 11/09/2009, -0/+20well, they did until the Zero Tolerance crowd got involved.
- Barackalypse, on 11/09/2009, -5/+24But I thought our public schools encouraged diversity.
- XISUPERMANIX, on 11/09/2009, -1/+20I remember back in elementary school when girls weren't allowed to even wear ear piercings that dangled. Boys couldn't have any and if you did you were suspended for the day. I never understood these rules- wear an earring and go home for the day, you don't need the education. Eventually too many parents complained and the new rule was that boys could wear earrings but they had to be covered up with band-aids. Seriously. This was when the little Michael Jordan loop earring was huge, not like today's big fake diamond earrings guys wear. If anything the band-aids were a bigger distraction than the earring itself.
- rocknog, on 11/09/2009, -1/+19I don't recall any mention of any other students being forced to receive a nose-piercing. How is anyone else being expected to change here?
- falafelkiosken, on 11/09/2009, -4/+21so all americans should adopt the culture of native americans?
- rocknog, on 11/09/2009, -2/+18I call bullcrap because IT'S A ***** PIERCING! Why the ***** do you care?
- audiophile214, on 11/09/2009, -1/+16Who gives a ***** if she has a nose ring? We have more important things to deal with.
- diemunkiesdie, on 11/09/2009, -1/+14She is NOT claiming religious reasons. She is claiming cultural and she blatantly acknowledges that it is not a required thing in her culture or even her religion. It's more like she is saying, it's a nose ring, what's the big deal?
- rocknog, on 11/09/2009, -4/+17I don't even care that she had it done for cultural reasons. The school really has no business telling her what to do if it's not interfering with her education. Unfortunately, school dress codes pretty much exist for the sole purpose of beating the individuality out of students.
- vinod1978, on 11/09/2009, -1/+14You are 100% wrong.
As an Indian (although I'm agnostic), many of my Indian friends ARE religious and like symbols to remind them of their heritage. This can be as simple as wearing a "blessed" string on your arm, or a nose piercing, or a bindi (a dot on a women's forehead) - but it is a symbol of something else. It's just like a Yamaka, or a chain with a cross. To say it's BS is just ignorant.
Personally, I don't like any organized religion but I'm tolerant of other people's beliefs. Just because you didn't grow up with this culture doesn't mean it's *****. - richiestang78, on 11/09/2009, -4/+16I don't think she should get any special treatment because she claims its a Indian cultural practice, so is anyone else getting a nose piercing as its a American cultural practice for a while now. Like it was said, its not a religious practice just a cultural, and this country bans alot of cultural practices so I think the school was in the clear for saying no.
- rocknog, on 11/09/2009, -2/+14The fact that it's becoming an American cultural practice as well only makes it more baffling to ban it to me. Forget special treatment, I don't understand why the school needs such draconian rules in the first place.
- enantiodromia, on 11/09/2009, -3/+13awww, did some scary brown person make you feel scared? :(
- PopcornDave, on 11/10/2009, -0/+10And that's why they're running the school. They have the qualifications.
- mbraynard, on 11/10/2009, -0/+9Rather than trying to express yourself through a superficial way like who could buy the most expensive clothes versus who always wore the same threadbare outfits as was done at my and other public schools,
Issue a low-cost uniform so that students can instead express their individuality through character, achievement, or athleticism rather than what their parents can buy them to wear? - Marnault22, on 11/09/2009, -1/+10This isn't about a city needing to modify it's rules to meet a cultural requirement. It's about a school suspending someone for having her nose pierced. Why should a School have any say in how you wish to look, other than things that are offensive & hateful such as a nazi shirt or something.
The only part of this being about culture is that was the girls stated reason for getting the piercing, which really shouldn't matter. The issue is that she was suspended for having her nose pierced which is a pretty stuipid punishment for a stupid rule. - quantumsaint, on 11/10/2009, -3/+11What's funny about this is that the school is defeating the purpose for not allowing piercings, i.e. because they're disruptive. Now in every class, people will point and say, "There's the girl who couldn't wear her nose piercing," effectively disrupting the class more than a simple nose stud ever would.
- kete00, on 11/09/2009, -2/+10Nothing awesome? What about some of the best skiing, rock climbing, mountain biking, or off-roading in the country? All within a very short drive of the airport.
- AmnesiacJack, on 11/09/2009, -7/+15Please go crawl into a fire and die.
- pauldy, on 11/09/2009, -4/+11If you think the navel is the best part, Your doing it wrong!
- kete00, on 11/09/2009, -2/+9Yeah. All that sagebrush in Wyoming is great. At least Utah has some pretty awesome terrain and stuff to do.
I know, you'll say that Wyoming's got Yellowstone and the Tetons, but the other 95% of the state sucks pretty hard. - mlarsen, on 11/10/2009, -4/+11How dare a school have standard! and how dare a girl be help responsible for violating the standards that she knew had to follow to attend school!
By being all "PC" & "Equal" we just do our kids a disservice for later on in their life.
Job applicant: I am really excited for this interview.
Interviewer: Is that 2 inch gauges in your ears and 2 plastic 1 inch horns in your lips?
Job applicant: Why yes, aren't they cool?
Interviewer: Next!
We need to teach kids to compete in the real world, where there are rules and appearances mean things. - mille716, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7Good point. I teach in a middle school and have two students with nose piercings. No one cares. I'm supposed to teach them not give fashion advice.
- vinod1978, on 11/09/2009, -5/+11I can't believe you are 40. You are exactly what is wrong with this country.
- purseonality, on 11/09/2009, -1/+7That "Muslim *****" was born in the U.S., from the reports I've heard. What's your point?
I had never questioned how we Americans tend to describe our heritage in terms of the birthplace of our ancestors, no matter how long ago. Pretty much every single natural-born American is able to recite where their family is from, like "I'm German on my Mom's side, French and 1/365th Cherokee on my Dad's side." (that's not me, BTW, just a random example.) The funny thing is, we seem to be the only ones that do this...having lived in Europe, I found that someone who identified as German living in England had generally been BORN in Germany. Nobody over there seems to jump on the bandwagon of being German from 10 generations ago just for their heritage, and they think it odd that we do. It's unimportant. Nobody gives a crap, and it breeds separatism and fosters conflict. So why are we, here, so eager to recite a litany of bloodlines and cultural identities? We are a nation of immigrants, that's why, and we feel some need to define ourselves by some previous-to-us birth.
That said, so what? Why do Americans hate on others for wanting to keep their culture from dying out? Americans have no real cultural history, unless you mean Native American. Do we begrudge the indigenous people their right to attempt to keep their languages, their myths, their culture intact? So why spew all the hatred? - Krakerjax, on 11/09/2009, -0/+6I hear rumors they don't allow you to wear windmills in your beard
- anthropodeus, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5i'm surprised you're being buried. you can get away with almost anything if you say it's because of your religion. you don't even have to pay taxes!
- Gonthim, on 11/09/2009, -2/+7It's not religious. It's a cultural practice. She wants to do it to feel closer to her heritage.
- mlw4428, on 11/09/2009, -1/+6It's great she wants to celebrate her heritage. But if others wouldn't be able to do it, then why should she? Wouldn't it have been simply easier to just notify the school and have her wear one of those rings (I dunno if nose rings are hard to put in/take out) that sorta hide the fact that it's a nose ring (no idea what it's called, but it's flat and plastic and it's supposed to blend into the skin and keep the hole from closing)? Should she have been suspended for it though? No, as long as it wasn't distracting (it's a nose ring, so...what's so distracting?).
- Zenith251, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5Dugg for being correct.
- inactive, on 11/10/2009, -4/+9Sorry.....I don't buy that one. No piercings other than your ear, no visible tattoos should be the requirement until the little brats are "adults". If the school has a dress code, ENFORCE it.
What they do after they are (considered) adults is their own business. It's just a scarlet letter if
you ask me. You run around with enough metal in your head to pick up radio stations, and your
skin looks like a drunk artist, that is your business...but it tells potential employers to say NO THANKS.
(unless you are looking to be a bartender, stripper, or work in a place without customer interaction. - PopcornDave, on 11/10/2009, -1/+6Cool, now she can sue herself. But just imagine the horror if she had gone braless. She'd be charged with sexual assault.
- votic, on 11/09/2009, -2/+7it's been like seven years, but of course I know what I could have done, it was a public school and the two were in no way connected, they got away with it because they used the excuse "you've been picking on him at school, too." when I never really saw the boy at school.
- mega-volt, on 11/10/2009, -1/+6Lived in Utah for a year and a half. Started out not knowing anybody. By time I left I had a large group of people I would hang out with, some LDS and some not. either way you slice it the landscape is beautifully and the people in salt lake city are great. for those of you who say utah sucks obviously don't like the outdoors. maybe you should get off the computer and go for a hike.
- TheGuruStud, on 11/09/2009, -6/+10Mormons.
'nuff said. Utah is not awesome. - RamenOps, on 11/10/2009, -1/+5Uh, sorry kid, but dress code > cultural sentiments.
I'm part German but if I went out of my school's dress code to wear traditional cultural German apparel I wouldn't flip ***** if I got suspended.
When you grow up you can do whatever you want. For now though, if it's a school rule, you either follow it or accept the consequences.
I don't even see why this is news. - orville1151, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4I went to high school in the early 60's and everyone was so upset about hair length.
Now no one cares about hair and I predict the same for piercing and tattoos. - dstz, on 11/09/2009, -1/+5"Claiming religion as an excuse to do something that you want makes me think of the Religious-Right."
Makes me think of why and how America was founded, but maybe it's just some European-thingy i have for history. Freedom of consciousness and all that jazz, maybe it's a bit dated i reckon ! - DDRSkata, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4I understand the point you're trying to make, but that problem can be overcome if the kid is smart enough to shop places where they can get expensive clothes for cheap (thrift stores, eBay, good sales at department stores) or creative enough to make their own look with cheap clothes.
- jordantneff, on 11/10/2009, -2/+5I don't even see how a nose piercing falls under a dress code, it's not even clothing. I can understand why they might not want middle schoolers running around in hot pants or wife beaters but just like tattoos piercings are just something that visually distinguishes one person from the next and if the parent lets them get one then who is the school to say they can't have it in? As long as it's not offensive or sexual then it's just another part of who they are.
- Atario, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Indeed! Next they'll be wearing trousers!
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