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- DPDish12, on 05/27/2009, -23/+215Is this really such a bad thing if the North attacks the South?
I mean of course it would be terrible for those that had to incur the first attacks from the North, but how long would they actually last? A day? Maybe 2? It wouldn't be just the US coming after them either. It would be Russia, Japan, China and South Korea as well.
At least it would end the reign of this little freak and it would free millions of North Koreans who live in some the worst conditions on the planet. They eat bugs to avoid starvation for God's sake.
Our kids may even grow up in a world where there's only a Korea, instead of North and South. Just like we did with Germany.
I kinda hope he pulls something just stupid enough for everyone else to say "***** it, now it's on". - Dalhectar, on 05/27/2009, -5/+164You do realize within an hour North Korea could turn Seoul into Gaza City or Mogadishu. Millions of civilians live within North Korea's artillery range. South Korea as we know it can't survive a full day of full scale combat. Neither would the North survive a real attack from US naval and air strikes, but it's impossible to launch an attack that would disrupt the DPRK response.
After a war, the West (assuming it won) would also have a humanitarian situation larger than any in the present day. Taking care of civilian loses on both sides and dealing with the ignored humanitarian crisis on the North would be a strain our military simply doesn't have the means to cope with.
Best advice is to just not go there. Let crazy man be crazy man in his little castle. - wpi97, on 05/27/2009, -9/+117Unfortunately, the crazy man in hist little castle seems to have got himself some nukes.... It would be great to leave him alone, but he keeps demanding free food and fuel for not nuking his neighbors. And even if he doesn't bother his neighbors, nothing stops him from selling nuclear materials to those who do.
Containment has worked for decades, but it looks like he has just changed the rules. The way things are going, not going there may not be a viable option. - sithyiscool, on 05/28/2009, -12/+109Isn't the CIA supposed to assassinate crazy leaders? Or do they have no oil there?
- inactive, on 05/28/2009, -29/+125HAHAHAHA
I really pity people like you, monolingual.
my mother language is Spanish, I did my bachelor in English, my master in French and I live and work in Germany. Of course I do a lot of mistakes, in 5 languages!! I learn Protuguese at the moment, btw.
Seúl (Spanish), Seoul (Deutsch), Séoul (Francais), Seoul (English), Seul (Portuguese).
Who gives a ***** if some one says (for example) Holland, Netherlands, Holanda, Niederlande, Pays-Bas, Países Bajos or Paesi Bassi???
Germany is called Deutschland here, Alemania in Spanish, Tedesco in Italian...
I dont speak Korean, but I am pretty sure that in Korean, Seoul is not written that way.
whatever... you, and the people who duggs your comment are just ignorant.
Nazigrammar! - Revovisionary, on 05/27/2009, -6/+101Desperate people tend not to think rationally
- vault, on 05/27/2009, -54/+146"N. Korea is not stupid."
Definitely not stupid...they probably even know how to spell Seoul. - Barackalypse, on 05/28/2009, -0/+58You never want the location of your nuclear subs to be known, and with the 4500+ mile range of a submarine launched Trident missile, rest assured anything worth destroying anywhere on Earth is within range of several at any point in time.
- richmomz, on 05/27/2009, -2/+57I don't think even a boatload of nukes would be enough of a deterrant for KJI's crazy ass.
- asgardshill, on 05/28/2009, -0/+49Just more saber rattling by North Korea. We've all played this game before:
1. NK makes bellicose threats toward its neighbors.
2. Rest of the world tsk tsks and shakes their finger at NK.
3. NK flips a few missiles at the herring schools in the Sea of Japan.
4. Rest of the world tsk tsks again and asks, "Why!?! Oh why!?"
5. NK sets the price of getting them to shut up at a few truckloads of food and shuteye connivance for it's nuclear programs.
6. Rest of the world capitulates and gives NK what it wants.
7. Mollified, NK shuts up for a while.
8. Lather rinse repeat. - inactive, on 05/28/2009, -1/+48He's not stupid, just crazy.
- sanskrtam, on 05/28/2009, -1/+48krc1: It's not a nonsense. I used to live in Seoul and had seen several events of civilian drill training in Seoul when the artillery shells hit. It will kill or injure 1/3 of South Koreans if the swarm of artillery shells hit Seoul and its satellite towns.
And the worst thing is: zergling rush against the South after the artillery rain. - TheTaoOfBill, on 05/28/2009, -2/+47Wait...they are in the business of counterfeiting Monday? Those ***** bastards! One Monday is bad enough!
- alacran7, on 05/28/2009, -5/+50North Korea will be wiped off the face of the earth
- Hodor, on 05/28/2009, -0/+41I don't think that China would accept any military action by the west that close to its borders.
- Hodor, on 05/28/2009, -0/+41like it's not there already.
- gbudavid, on 05/27/2009, -6/+44What are you going to tell the Mothers of the 50,000 American Troops in SK that just got decimated??
- Ymeg, on 05/28/2009, -3/+41But their army is completely outdated.
- vault, on 05/27/2009, -3/+38It would definitely not be over in a day or two. North Korea has the fourth or fifth largest military in the world depending on what source you use.
- sanskrtam, on 05/28/2009, -0/+32Kimmy Ill-matic is not crazy enough to start a war.
Did we hear any evacuation of nomenklaturas (high class citizens in Soviet-influenced countries) in Pyongyang and in the southern provinces to the northern cities in North Korea?
Did we hear any change of administration of Pyongyang subway system (can be used as a bunker)?
Did we hear any huge land force movement in Pyongyang, not for ceremonial purposes (marching, mass game)?
Did we hear any huge military concentration in Kaesong (a big North Korean city that is very close to South Korea and the DMZ)?
Did we hear any direct naval dispatches to the waterfront areas of Pyongyang?
Did we hear any North Korean gov't's notice to its foreign citizens (UN workers, Chinese businesspeople, etc) that they have to get out of North Korea or be in a special confined area?
No - inactive, on 05/27/2009, -30/+59They will do nothing!!
If N. Korea attacks Seul, then S. Korea, Japan, the US and probably China and Russia will step in.
N. Korea is not stupid. - acid_jazz, on 05/28/2009, -0/+29You guys are all wrong. It's spelled: 서울
- Ymeg, on 05/28/2009, -3/+31It would be a catastrophic event, but North Korea knows that they would no longer exist if they attack. Japan Self-Defense Forces could wipe out the entire country by itself. This is not even considering if South Korea has the US attack on their behalf.
- DigitalisAkujin, on 05/28/2009, -2/+29The CIA works under cover of being embedded in civilian society, also known as SPIES.
What you want is commando troops such as the Marines or the Navy SEALS. - Barackalypse, on 05/28/2009, -1/+27I think North Korea, specifically Dear Leader Kim, is more deluded than desperate. Desperate describes the condition of most of his serfs.
- venom8599, on 05/28/2009, -2/+26Here--I fixed it for you.
1. North Korea will fire off missles and make grand declarations of how their glorious military will crush the foreign opressors.
2. Various nations threaten more unenforced sanctions on North Korea.
3. High level talks inclusive of Russia and China will take place
4. North Korea will refuse to back down and they will threaten to attack the South unless they can get certain concessions (cash, cash and more cash)
5. The UN will sit around and write condemning decisions that result in no action by anyone
6. North Korea will promise to shut down it's enrichment program in exchange for more foreign aid in some backroom deal hammered out with Washington on some random weekend when nobody is paying attention.
7. Wait six months to a year.
8. Repeat. - arplayer2k, on 05/28/2009, -1/+25They probably just want some attention and some money.
- IndigoMoss, on 05/28/2009, -0/+22I guarantee most North. Koreans have never ever heard of Starcraft. Most of them don't even have power, let alone a computer, let alone the Internet, let alone a video game that's played on a computer, against other people on the Internet.
Plus, we all know the South Koreans would win. - NoLibertarians, on 05/27/2009, -8/+30The US should just park a nuclear capable sub off N Korea and make sure they know it's there. We probably already have
- purplesawdust, on 05/27/2009, -2/+24No, just no
- lazyslacker, on 05/28/2009, -3/+25That crazy N.Korean dictator... y'know, they should just settle their differences once and for all, with a StarCraft tournament. Otherwise, any day now, we'll hear it...
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED - D1CE, on 05/28/2009, -0/+22Indeed it would not, let's not forget the lessons of the Korean War. Western military anywhere near the 40th parallel would be bad news. Some scholars predict that World War III would spark in Eastern Asia and this could potentially be a tipping point, especially as Japan rearms and China/Russia are seeing more eye-to-eye than usual.
- shdwfx, on 05/28/2009, -1/+22yarayara sure has an impressive grasp on languages.
He's falling a bit short on humor, however. - vizerei, on 05/28/2009, -5/+26North Korea may have the 5th largest in terms of active duty but on "Military Strength" ratings they are down at 20.
It would definitely be over quickly. - lamejoketeller, on 05/28/2009, -4/+25I beg to differ.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3g1UiO1nRmA/SPy1tW2YOvI/ ... - CATSCEO2, on 05/28/2009, -2/+23Would you like to play a game?
- Medicamusic, on 05/28/2009, -5/+26Such fresh material!
- twiztidsinz, on 05/28/2009, -0/+21I ***** hate Mondays.
- twiztidsinz, on 05/28/2009, -0/+19o rearry?
- twiztidsinz, on 05/28/2009, -12/+30I'd rather starting off with a strongly worded letter than going in somewhere half-informed that we get stuck in for YEARS.
- masamunecyrus, on 05/28/2009, -3/+21They have the third-largest standing army on Earth and a population that has been pumped full of propaganda from their birth. It won't be an easy task.
- GawtMilk, on 05/28/2009, -0/+18Diggers: confusing irony and rape since 2004.
- arplayer2k, on 05/28/2009, -0/+18India could even step in to get chummy with the US.
- DigitalisAkujin, on 05/28/2009, -0/+17Analysis of how The Korean War II would play out done in 2003: http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030304 ...
Pretty sure it's still relatively accurate.
"The United States and South Korea would almost certainly win any war on the Korean peninsula, but the cost of victory could be appalling.
If North Korea attacked first or if its war machine wasn't seriously damaged by a U.S. strike aimed at destroying its nuclear weapons program, in the first two or three weeks of fighting that nation could use its awesome firepower to leave more than 1 million people dead or wounded. Most would be South Korean troops and civilians, but thousands of U.S. troops stationed here would also likely die, the U.S. military estimates.
South Korean defenses could be pulverized for several hours by as many as 500,000 artillery rounds per hour from North Korean positions just 30 miles from Seoul. North Korea's 500 to 600 Scud missiles, many carrying chemical weapons, could pound targets across South Korea, and longer-range missiles could hit civilian and U.S. military targets as far away as Japan and possibly even America's West Coast." - DPDish12, on 05/28/2009, -3/+21NK does have the 5th largest military in the world. China, the US and Russia are one, two and four.
When you look at it, it's not a great place to be the little guy and start a war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_countries ... - sanskrtam, on 05/28/2009, -6/+23NK's army is completely outdated but even the terrorists in the Middle East are completely outdated and they are still a huge threat even today.
- Malarie, on 05/28/2009, -1/+18I dont wish the death of anyone. But seriously Kim Jong Il.. He reminds me of a little guy with absolutely no self esteem, bullied in school.. About to get his hands on a pair of nukes... its like putting a machine gun in the hands of child..
- DigitalisAkujin, on 05/28/2009, -3/+19America has a huge Russian population that has friends and family in Russia and other former Soviet Union countries. We have huge ties with Russia on everything from space exploration to trade.
As for China, we're it's main customer. I think we'd have to help them out with refugees though but the cost wouldn't be that substantial. A couple billion at most. - inactive, on 05/28/2009, -13/+29@GawtMilk
The point is, that Nazigrammars miss the point.
Instead of getting focus in/on (what ever fits better) the arguments people want to express, this guys point out big or small spelling/grammar mistakes that we -not english native speakers, usually make.
As a person who has learned different languages, Ive overcome the fear of making mistakes and participate in different forums, in different languages, but there are literally millions of people out here who would love to join us and discuss issues in this forums, but they are too shy because many of you will instantly make fun of our mistakes.
How do you want to understand the rest of the world if you are so selfish and don't stop bulling us when we make mistakes regardless of how silly they are?
This guy points out my mistake, and everybody diggs him up, wtf? am I your clown to entertain you? Do you find it funny that I can't do better than 290/300 in a toefl test?
Finally, why do you think I am elitist? The fact that Ive learned languages makes you feel... how? some peolpe go to the cinema, some people watch tv. When I have free time, I try to learn, or play COD4 - Jacare, on 05/28/2009, -6/+22you know in many cultures bugs are actually a staple or delicacy, and they are actually pretty good when prepared in traditional/cultural ways. also nutritionally speaking they are great for you, whole lotta protein.
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