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- inactive, on 06/01/2009, -3/+47They might, they might not, but they are just crazy enough to do it.
- Berkana, on 06/01/2009, -1/+43They'd better watch it or they'll find themselves "liberated."
The people of North Korea have suffered so terribly under the Stalinist regime, it wouldn't be half bad to see the regime fall, except that it would cost a lot of lives in the process. They'll develop intercontinental missiles while their own people die of starvation. How's that for priorities? - Exhibitionist, on 06/01/2009, -1/+38What a load of bollocks. North Korea couldn't even successfully test a short-range missile a few months ago and now they're going intercontinental? Riiiiiiiiiiight...
- lincolnparkx, on 06/01/2009, -9/+43note to US, stop sending aid
- KrayzieKyd, on 06/01/2009, -0/+27Into the ocean?
- jmj83, on 06/01/2009, -1/+20I call BS. The ability to successfully deploy ICBM's basically requires a space program since the ballistic trajectories of missiles that travel that far require sub-orbital flight. Just think about that for a second; all the resources and experimentation involved. These idiots can't even keep the electricity on. lol
- KrayzieKyd, on 06/01/2009, -2/+19They still haven't mastered the 38th parallel, think they can master modern warfare?
- daPhoenix, on 06/01/2009, -0/+15Not fast enough to prevent massive civilian casualties in the South.
- cyberdork, on 06/01/2009, -0/+15My guess is that Kim Jong il noticed that he is running out of time. He's not in best health, and now he wants to go with a big bang.
- TimtheTaxMan, on 06/01/2009, -5/+20Why is this the United States’ problem? South Korea is part of the trillion-dollar GDP club and you telling me they can’t defend themselves against this backwater? They could build a military to dwarf anything the North could dream of, but I suppose it’s cheaper for them to let us pay for it. *Sigh*
- RealmDown, on 06/01/2009, -1/+16The "guy waving the gun in the air" usually gets shot, often fatally.
- fcrow, on 06/01/2009, -0/+14No into space launching a communication satellite playing revolutionary songs.
- lindenwold, on 06/01/2009, -1/+15Wngnuts? Sorry, but reading the comments above yours, I don't see any trend one way or the other as it relates to US politocal prefrence.
All is see is you, sounding stupid.
I'm sure there will be plenty of Obama articles today for you to start arguments in.
Until then, someone get this baby his pacifier. - spfldnet, on 06/01/2009, -1/+14Kim Jung Il wants to go out in a blaze of glory. Just look at him. He wants to carry his entire country into his grave with him. He's that insane. Meanwhile, the soldiers are doing what they are told, all the while stealing glances to make sure they are not in trouble for not doing their jobs. The best course of action for President Obama is to respond with utter silence. Imagine what would go through Kim Jung Il's head if the United States had absolutely no response to his action. Totally ignoring him. It works for toddlers in tantrums.
- idavidtang, on 06/01/2009, -0/+13They'll have to master their defenses as well; shabby armed troops and tank decoys are no match. We're talking about Zergling rushes at any moment from the south if things get crazy.
- DougP1, on 06/01/2009, -0/+11Maybe there's some kind of internal power struggle going on, and someone feels the need to prove that they're just as militant as anyone else. Otherwise, why all of this craziness all of a sudden (even for them)?
- borez, on 06/01/2009, -0/+11Kim Jong il has finally reached the top branches of the La La tree.
- inactive, on 06/01/2009, -1/+12Anything for a news story. And to make the populace A-OK with sending in the military.
- defaultusername, on 06/01/2009, -4/+14The North Korean leadership isn't crazy, they just want everyone to think they are. No one wants to mess with the guy who's waving a gun around and firing into the air.
In reality, detonating bombs underground and pissing rockets into the Sea of Japan is a far cry from actual brinkmanship. - thetayloreffect, on 06/01/2009, -0/+10North Korea talks a big game for a country without any lights.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap001127.html
(They're that big black spot above South Korea and Japan) - inactive, on 06/01/2009, -0/+9I hear Kim Jong-il has mad CoD4 skills.
- anthropodeus, on 06/01/2009, -0/+9orbital enclave eyebot?
- Jackosx, on 06/01/2009, -2/+10I may go to the ***** in a minute, you don't see me digging about it.
- inactive, on 06/01/2009, -0/+7he ***** camps and uses martyrdom.
- 3The3Dude3, on 06/01/2009, -0/+7The U.S. and UN are gearing up to launch some of the strongest words in their collective arsenals in response. In addition to the usual nouns and adjectives, they have not ruled out using verbs or even an adverb (the stunning combination of description AND action) if the missile travels over 1,100 miles.
Meanwhile, Kim Jong Il is off to the golf course for another round in which he plans on stroking 11 aces and coming in 38 under par, before penning yet another amazing opera. (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/02/16/ki ... - uglyteradon, on 06/01/2009, -0/+7I guess North Korea doesn't know about Operation Shock and Awe... I wonder how quickly we could shut down the entire North Korean Army, anybody have a guess?
Actually, we need to let North Korea know that if they keep this up they are just going to be invaded. Thus giving country singers new material to exploit! This is much bigger than a nuclear ICBM... this is serious! - tryptopham, on 06/01/2009, -1/+8don't they keep you behind a firewall or something?
- inactive, on 06/01/2009, -2/+8Move along, comrades, nothing to see here.
- cfuse, on 06/01/2009, -0/+6For that, you'll have to follow him on Twitter.
- TheInformer, on 06/01/2009, -1/+7I think the fastest way to decimate their capabilities is to send Kanye West and his rampant stupidity over there.
- inactive, on 06/01/2009, -1/+7He may get some help if he aint careful!
- cheesylobster, on 06/01/2009, -1/+7I feel like this is different than Iraq because there, Iraq claimed to have NO WMDs, we searched, but found no proof, but we invaded them anyways. That was clearly a stupid move.
On the other hand, in North Korea, they claim to have WMDs, they have shown that they can detonate them, they are holding US journalists HOSTAGE, and they have a history of generally hostility towards the United States. I'd assume that if they actually did have the capacity to utilize a long range missile, they would attack the US first. Hence, the case for an actual preemptive strike here is much more justified than it was in Iraq.
I myself am a pacifist but I believe these threats should not be taken lightly. - inajeep, on 06/01/2009, -2/+7They keep pushing and pushing. Sometimes I just want the US to say, "If you launch the ICBM, we will shoot it down, destroy the launch site and then the factory where they were made at". Crazy people should not have such toys.
Of course that won't happen because big brother China would have to protect their slightly deranged child. That pits SK against NK and China where we back SK along with Japan and any sane ones left in the area. It's another battle we can't afford to because someone had a Iraqi burr up their ass and couldn't just go after Bin Laden.... but I digress. Any sanctions at this point hurt the people more than the govt. but I'm not expecting anything different here. - cerejota, on 06/01/2009, -4/+9Do not insult Stalin, please.
- Ymeg, on 06/01/2009, -2/+7There is a number of reasons. The US, along with South Korea and Japan are the three states that they absolutely hate. Rouge, dictatorships have no right to have such weapons; this is everyone concern. Also, we have an obligation to defend Japan if they get attacked.
Oh, and South Korea can have all the trillions they want, and build as big of an army they want, but they know that the North has enough firepower pointed at Seoul to decimate it. It's easy to act big and mocho, but you need to consider that they have their capital by the balls. - acknotSW, on 06/01/2009, -0/+5YES!!! Finally the evil American empire will fall before the benevolent might of the North Koreans.
/Major S
***** this *****, I say the world should just ignore them completely, cut off all aid, and wait for them to cross the line. The world has shown its distaste for preemptive military action and I think the US should abide by that decision. - lazy6pyro, on 06/01/2009, -0/+5Meh. This is smoke screening at its finest by NK; did they hire Baghdad Bob?
They routinely fail with their short range missile tests, and then you expect me to believe they can bruise the US? Remember last time NK tried to test launch missiles supposedly capable of hitting the US?
But honestly I can't envision a clean military scenario with NK without seeing Seoul partially in rubble. NK has just too many batteries pointed at them for the AF to take them all out in conjunction. - bradleyland, on 06/01/2009, -1/+624 months from now, after the "liberation", we'll all be shouting outrage at how we were lied to about K Korea having WMD capable of reaching US soil. It's amazing that this parlor trick is working yet again. Everyone I talk to on the street is scared ***** and thinks "Our government needs to do something!"
Then again, I live in Florida, so that might account for the rampant stupidity. - TimtheTaxMan, on 06/01/2009, -1/+6Japan is also part of the trillion-dollar GDP club. I think they are ready to take the lead for their own defense as well.
I agree that everyone needs to be concerned about rouge dictatorships with nuclear weapons, but why does the US always have to take the lead? Where is Europe or China on this? - GiggleStick, on 06/01/2009, -0/+5You might say they were in a *tight* spot.
- govsucks, on 06/01/2009, -2/+6Yes, it is disgusting to watch one group of people force their will on another group of people to the point that the later is starving. But, its not like we don't know that forced collectivism is a bad thing.
- thinkb4utype, on 06/01/2009, -0/+4Kissinger got the North Vietnamese to the peace table by convincing them Nixon was crazy. Sometimes crazy works in international politics. It seems to be working for the North Koreans.
They have been able to extract aid while still developing these weapons. Remember that missile sales to other states like Iran and Syria is one of their few sources of foreign currency (besides printing counterfeit bills). As long as they aren't marketing nukes, they will probably keep on playing their game without paying any real price.. - simbait, on 06/01/2009, -0/+41) They have Seoul at artillery gun point. Even the fastest attack cannot avoid an unacceptable amount of South Korean casualties.
2) Formally they have a defense pact with China. So unless China declares that pact void, no one would risk that they might honor it.
3) Well ... THEY DO have WMD, no oil and 30 million North Koreans to feed and look after the war. - cerejota, on 06/01/2009, -5/+9What aid? Feeding the hungry is not aid, its keeping famine from happening. Aid is when you give help to a government for their projects, be them civilian or military. The US is officially still at war with the DPRK, so there is no aid going their way.
This is a sensationalist reading of the situation. - MWeather, on 06/01/2009, -0/+4"few thousand of AK's along the borders will eliminate any overlord/zergling's in sight."
Human wave attacks have a long history of success on the Korean peninsula. - diggduggjoe, on 06/01/2009, -0/+4They haven't mastered agriculture or energy production. They are just extorting more goods from the world for their failed economy.
WTF do they have to lose? Being bombed back to the stone age? They are already there! - Waiting2awake, on 06/01/2009, -0/+4Exactly, but the media needs a boogey man.
- Dynamoo, on 06/01/2009, -0/+4Well, if the Norks want to go to war.. then they will probably go to war.
The Korean armies dwarf any US presence, any war will be primarily fought between Koreans. NK has superior numbers, SK (plus allies) have better equipment. Unless NK can defeat SK quickly, then it does not have the resources to sustain a war.
Of more importance though is China. Although NK is an "ally", it's the kind of ally that they really don't want. It is in China's interest to retain influence in North Korea, but it sure as hell doesn't want to go back to the 1950s and fight a war against the US. Why? Well, it's all down to *money*. The Chinese economy basically runs on exports to the West - sanctions against China would probably lead to economic collapse, which may lead to civil war. With nukes.
So.. the way out of this particular hole is probably down to the Chinese. If things start to look bad, you may well see the Chinese crossing the border into North Korea and taking control of the country, quite possibly with the tacit approval of the US or UN. Problem solved - the Norks have their toys taken away and stop threatening SK and world peace. China retains its influence in NK and shows that it is a world power to be reckoned with. The Norks get electricity and food plus Chinese aid.. not quite "Peace, Bread, Land" but close to it. - TheHayze, on 06/01/2009, -0/+3I'm still in the "it's a South Korea, China and Japan problem" side of the debate. Sure we defend out allies who get attacked, but I'm positive that China would be able to defend them selves. You don't go to war with the world'd largest military with just a few missles, and dirty bombs. (Basically the nuke North Korea tested last week, in my opinion, was more of a dirty bomb then anything). The region around North Korea cant, and definately won't, let North Korea to get any sort of dominance in the region. They're just attention whores.
- charlietuna, on 06/01/2009, -0/+3Subtext: send more oil, and don't forget the Swedish prostitutes. Else we will bury you!
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