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No Sign Yet of AFA McDonald's Boycott In Brew City!
worldnetdaily.com — Had to drive far and wide through Milwaukee Land today, and must have driven by 6 or 7 McNakedHomosexlds, and I saw no boycotters. Guess they're all in California; but wait, isn't that where people are real evil, and being punished with wildfires and everything all crazy like that. I'm confused. People here might be ready to boycott the Brewers.
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- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -24/+14" You deserve a break today, so bitch slap the AFA, at McDonald's."http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2008/07/gays- ...
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -27/+13And Interesting that Joe Farah is NOT posting the naked homosex pics on WND. I'm thinking he wants to enjoy them all to himself, or maybe with his good buddy, and WND contributor, Matt Sanchez.http://cplsanchez.info/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jNMjFO9BWo&feature ...
- The7Sticks, on 07/30/2008, -21/+4Oh, real nice, keep spouting that hot air from Glenn Beck that people are being punished in California because of God's wrath. Sorry, but his wrath is a result of the US invading a country for fictitious reasons and not some gay agenda, which I find hard to believe.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -6/+6Don't know about God's wrath, but how about that earthquake yesterday in and around Los Angeles. It made my day, how about yours?
- KJeffV, on 07/30/2008, -5/+6I don't have the inside track on God's specific-for-today wrath, either, Jim, but I suppose we could cont to check in w/the stickman, who pontificates upon these important musings.
- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -9/+7What an America-hating coward you are georgiajim.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -8/+10Well dungdowner, are you questioning my patriotism? Are you questioning my manhood? Or are trying to upgrade your station in life from a troll to an internet tough guy? Just so you know, I don't hate America, I hate people like you.
- Coven, on 07/30/2008, -4/+10He's calling out your taking pleasure in a near natural disaster as un-patriotic. American citizens were put in harms way in Los Angeles and the surrounding areas and you claim it made your day.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -6/+5Why is it that liberals only recognize sarcasm when it comes from one of their own? Coven, are you insinuating that some of us don't have the right to be sarcastic? I think that is discrimination of the highest order. It's worse than the gay marriage issue. It's even worse than worshiping a zombie god and eating zombie god flesh. Are you the sarcasm judge? Please, your Honor, get together with dungdowner and give me a list of what I can be sarcastic about so I don't break any of your rules.
And by the way, American citizens were NOT PUT in harms way in Los Angeles. They choose to live there and I'm glad there were no major injuries. - Coven, on 07/30/2008, -4/+7You're terrible at the whole sarcasm thing if that is truly what you were trying to accomplish. Either that or you're really good at backpedaling.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -7/+6Coven - again I ask. Who made you the sarcasm judge? You post that I am terrible at the whole sarcasm thing. By what standard? Yours? The7sticks posted that God's wrath is a result of the US invading a country for fictitious reasons. Really. I figured that had to be sarcasm because even a far left liberal puke couldn't be arrogant enough to say he knew God's will. My response was to him. He was pretty far out there so I went pretty far out there about God's wrath. Have you ever asked dungdowner about his Christian thugs feed them to lions remarks? Do you really think he wants all Christians dead?
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -6/+6Don't know about God's wrath, but how about that earthquake yesterday in and around Los Angeles. It made my day, how about yours?
- Lutrasimilis, on 07/30/2008, -21/+16Those protesters remind me of Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist crowd. Good luck, whackaloons. Just stay away from the funerals.
- michael4lsu, on 07/30/2008, -12/+9Typical insane mindset of a homosexual/atheist. I would explain how wrong it is to compare those two situations, but if you don't already have the common sense to figure it out yourself in the first place, you'll never understand. More than likely you do understand the difference, but are just being intellectually dishonest to support your pro-homosexual views. That's the sort of pathetic desperation that comes from people who try to justify homosexual behavior.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+10Please explain it if you can. What is a non biblical argument against homosexuality?
- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -12/+4Medical.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+11What are the medical reasons I shouldn't have sex with other women
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -3/+11I have had both Christian friends and homosexual friends tell me that the biblical passages "against" homosexuality are pretty thin and very open to interpretation. It is something where someone else other than a bigot, if s/he read the bible herself instead of relying on a bigoted preacher to tell her what it meant, might come to a different conclusion.
- bluto36, on 07/30/2008, -14/+1because your not hot. Lesbians should only be hot or they should be illegal. your lesbian sex should defiantly be illegal.
dont hate on me, i am just trying to make the world a better place where the hot lesbians have sex for all to enjoy and the average to fugly lesbian sex is either invisible or non existent.
you can all thank me later when all lesbian sex looks like Anna Kournikova vs Jessica Alba.
Evilena may have been hot a decade ago but now she looks more like Jessica Tandy than Jessica Alba - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -4/+10I was asking for medical reasons and this is the best I got.
If lesbians think I am hot why should I care what anyone else thinks? I am sure I wouldn't find many of you very hot. I am not telling you to stop having sex with your wives. - StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -3/+10They have no problem with smoking, fatty food or couch potatoism. Just gay sex.
- bluto36, on 07/30/2008, -5/+3@evilena
agree 100% with your last! Even Rosie O found a partner. I'm just trying to make the world a better place. but utopia is always just a pipe dream - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -5/+7Utopia is not a pipe dream in Florida. With the crazy people gone we will truly live in paradise.
- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -10/+6"What are the medical reasons I shouldn't have sex with other women"
If you are that stupid then I cannot help you. You aren't looking for an answer, just something to argue about. If I wanted to argue with a dumb twit I would call my ex-wife. In summation: No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere, is tired of her *****. I am tired of yours! - lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -5/+12Lesbian sex is the safest form of sexual behavior. If you are that stupid, farmerjohn48pan, then we cannot help you. You AREN'T looking for facts, you're looking for prejudice against homosexuality in ANY way that you can get it, be it health or mental stability or ability to reproduce or fashion sense (oops, not that one).
The fact is that the world is growing very tired of anti-homosexual *****. And it's not gonna take it. - durlek, on 07/30/2008, -9/+4I think that’s a fair question. Lesbians seem to have less of a disease problem than the male homosexuals so I’ll pass on the medical explanation. From my observation, homosexuals (including females) seem to have about 4 times more emotional drama than most other people. That’s not a very scientific statement, but it seems to agree with homosexual suicide statistics. Perhaps it is worthwhile to contemplate whether or not suicidal homosexuals are actually emotionally healthy people who just decide to kill themselves because Christians won’t endorse their lifestyle.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+12It's not about "Christians endorsing their lifestyle," it's about people who harass them or treat them as subhuman, or treat them as if they are mentally ill. As Evilena said, if everyone stopped treating homosexuals as diseased and/or sinners and/or defective (being Christian or not has nothing to do with it), then they'd have a lot less emotional drama.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -5/+8"You aren't looking for an answer, just something to argue about."
I am not expecting you to give me an answer. I am simply pointing this out to anyone reading that may have been fooled by you that you have no answer to this. - durlek, on 07/30/2008, -9/+5Lydecker, could you be a little more specific? You don’t think it’s about Christians needing to endorse homosexuality. But you do believe we need to stop “treating them as sinners”. Well, the Bible teaches us that we’re all sinners. Do you want to add an exclusion clause for homosexuals so their tender feelings won’t be hurt and they won’t have to kill themselves?
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+10Okay, I'll try. You can treat someone as a human, and not as a sinner, and not endorse their lifestyle.
For an analogy, I can be friends with people who smoke, treat them human, don't treat them as a walking death trap, don't tell them they are making poor health decisions everyday... and still not endorse them smoking.
Similarly, I can be friends with people who eat too much junk food and fast food that causes them to gain weight, and not approve of their eating habits, while still not treating them as diseased, overweight, or subhuman.
You don't need to endorse someone's sexuality, weight, or habits, but you can stop treating them as sinners.
And especially, since we're all sinners, you should be treating EVERYONE the same. If that hurts homosexuals feelings, doesn't it hurt everyone's feelings? Do you treat everyone badly because they are sinner? If someone does that, then they're just an *****, and probably do help commit to people's suicidal tendencies (like all the mean kids in high school who do make teen suicide the largest rates).
If you treat everyone badly because everyone is a sinner, you don't have to make an exclusion cause. If you treat homosexuals badly and no one else, and therefore lead homosexuals to higher rates of suicide (which I think is more plausible), then STOP making an exception for homosexuals. - durlek, on 07/31/2008, -1/+1Lydecker,
My Christian beliefs do not require me to “treat sinners badly” or as “sub-humans”. Humanity’s highest example is Jesus Christ. He loves us sinners and is very forgiving, but he told us to repent of our sins. I believe we should love the sinner, but hate the sin. The word “love” in this connotation is of course not the sexual kind. I hope you understand my viewpoint better now. - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3Good. If your Christian beliefs do not require you to treat sinners badly, then you don't have to deal with ANYONE in a way "so their tender feelings won’t be hurt and they won’t have to kill themselves." Because you'll treat everyone lovingly. Don't treat anyone as diseased and/or sinners and/or defective and/or subhuman.
Make no exceptions. - durlek, on 07/31/2008, -1/+0We’re all sinners, but you tell me not to “treat anyone as a sinner”. To fulfill your demand I would need to eschew everyone. I’m not ready to cut off all my human contact at the request of a stranger. Has anyone ever suggested to you that you might have a control issue?
- lydecker, on 08/01/2008, -0/+3Your posts seem to say different things.
If, in fact, you treat everyone (as a sinner) nicely, with respect, and lovingly, explain to me HOW that would get anyone's "tender feelings hurt and so they have to kill themselves?"
Explain, in what way do you treat normal people, and in what way do you treat homosexuals, that there is a difference?
Explain the meaning behind this statement:
"Do you want to add an exclusion clause for homosexuals so their tender feelings won’t be hurt and they won’t have to kill themselves?"
In all honesty, I want you to add an exclusion cause for EVERYONE so their tender feelings won't be hurt and they won't have to kill themselves. But, if you already treat everyone equally, then you probably WOULDN'T have made this statement. - durlek, on 08/01/2008, -1/+0Lydecker,
Previously I stated “ Perhaps it is worthwhile to contemplate whether or not suicidal homosexuals are actually emotionally healthy people who just decide to kill themselves because Christians won’t endorse their lifestyle.” My opinion is “not”. I can see that there were some really sensitive people who had to click the “thumbs down thingy” just because I made the suggestion. I think that’s a bit ironic.
If the Bible offends you because it says we’re all sinners, your conversation probably needs to be with God instead of me. - lydecker, on 08/01/2008, -0/+2It's not just Christians who don't endorse homosexuality by not living it, or how homosexuals lifestyle of being attracted to people of their own gender, that are the problem. It's got nothing to do specifically with religion. Religious people are a part of it.
It's the population's discrimination against, hatred toward, slurs against, violence towards, outward disgust and such that contribute toward it. It's people who feel the need to approach specifically homosexuals to tell them that they are sinners, and this is isolated to homosexuals.
I don't see people doing this to every sin. If I did, perhaps people who divorced, people who have premarital sex, people who believe in a different God, people who have a child outside of marriage... all these people would have emotional problems.
Because we're all humans, and we've all got the same fragile feelings. Some people unfortunately take it upon themselves to make exceptions for homosexuals. I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt that your suggestion was wrong.
This goes towards everyone, Bible believers and not. My conversation does not need to be with God, because he doesn't do these things to homosexuals. - durlek, on 08/01/2008, -2/+0Romans 3:23 (King James Version)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; - lydecker, on 08/01/2008, -0/+2That doesn't address the issue, so I'll assume you are content with my point. IF every person on earth were to treat everyone equally, which they don't, then we wouldn't have problems with emotional health, hurting people's feelings, and suicide.
- durlek, on 08/01/2008, -2/+0Hmmm.... “If every person on earth were to treat everyone equally”. My wife doesn’t want me to treat other women like I treat her. I think that would cause her to have an emotional problem and right after that I’d probably experience some physical problems.
- ihateusernames3, on 07/30/2008, -15/+16"The American Family Association asked McDonald's to remain neutral in the culture war." Yet, I somehow get the feeling that wouldn't want a company to be neutral if they were as anti-gay as the AFA is.
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -13/+13A suicidal person standing on a building's ledge is the only one who faults the policeman for tackling him to the ground. Unfortunately, when it comes to homosexuality, our society has lost perspective of the height of the building, the severity of the fall, and the courage of the policeman.
- Sludgehammer, on 07/30/2008, -8/+10Wait... I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Are you talking about a stupid/suicidal police officer tackling a man off a ledge into a fatal fall to the ground floor, or a police man tackling a man to the floor keeping him from jumping?
Regardless, this is a very confusing analogy. I'm having trouble drawing parallels either of the possible meanings to homosexuality and American culture. - pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -12/+13@Sludgehammer:
I'm happy to decipher my syllogism for you:
Suicidal Person = individual considering participating in homosexual behavior;
Leap from Building = engaging in homosexual behavior;
Severity of Fall = severe damage resulting from engaging in homosexual behavior;
Courageous Policeman = Those who stand against the immorality of homosexual behavior;
Tackling to Ground = Discouraging those who are engaged in, or considering engaging in homosexual immorality. Also, standing against the advancement of the homosexual agenda. [Perhaps I should have used the word "roof" rather than "ground".] - ihateusernames3, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6sludgehammer was referring to the fact that tackling someone who is standing on the ledge of a building probably isnt the best idea. You see, then they both fall and die.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -6/+10Or you could stop picking on them and homosexuals wouldn't be so suicidal.
- JulyZerg, on 07/30/2008, -3/+8I've never heard of someone being severely damaged from having consensual sex with someone of the same gender.
Your courageous policeman = deranged psychopath - ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -3/+7Syllogism? How's that? More like a bad allegorical thing that doesn't work.
- Sludgehammer, on 07/30/2008, -8/+10Wait... I have no idea what point you're trying to make. Are you talking about a stupid/suicidal police officer tackling a man off a ledge into a fatal fall to the ground floor, or a police man tackling a man to the floor keeping him from jumping?
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -5/+7AFA asked McDonald's to remain neutral in the culture war.
1.) I was unaware of such a war
2.) Why cant the AFA remain neutral and leave people alone?
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -13/+13A suicidal person standing on a building's ledge is the only one who faults the policeman for tackling him to the ground. Unfortunately, when it comes to homosexuality, our society has lost perspective of the height of the building, the severity of the fall, and the courage of the policeman.
- LifeguardMom, on 07/30/2008, -12/+26I hope all families boycott McDonalds. Ask Ford how successful boycotts are.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -10/+6actually two trolls, one who thinks he knows enough to sound like 4-lol
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -3/+8Be sure to ask Disney too mom.
- ikbrooks, on 07/30/2008, -13/+184 trolls and a patriot! You are not alone LGMom.
- RecordKeeper, on 07/30/2008, -14/+19No McQueer burgers for my family.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -3/+7This link identifies 'Gay Friendly' Companies.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI ...
Please do not be an advocate of hypocracy and boycott these companies as well.
Apple/Best Buy/Adobe/Microsoft/Cisco/Dell
(hope you dont like computers)
American Express/Capital One
American Airlines/Boeing (I hope you dont fly much)
Anheuser-Busch (and its subsidiaries)/Kraft/General Mills
(you like eating dont you?)
I can go on all day.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -3/+7This link identifies 'Gay Friendly' Companies.
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -11/+24My wife and I were out with our children yesterday, and decided to eat out. My oldest daughter (3 yrs old) saw the golden arches and shouted gleefully, "McDonald's!" My son (6 yrs old) offered her this gentle reminder, "We can't eat there because we're boycotting McDonald's." My daughter responded, "Oh yeah. Let's go to Jack in the Box!"
A very proud moment for my wife and I.- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -12/+16Always good to see a future generation of ignorant bigots.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -10/+9Then you have much to look forward to-
- RSandman, on 07/30/2008, -8/+7Really? and I thought gay activists couldn't have offspring...hence their recruitment and 'mentoring' of heterose*ual children to spread the disease...
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+6You and your silly gay agenda conspiracies.
I stand up for lesbians rights as a way to pick up chicks. - JimmySpaza, on 07/30/2008, -12/+7@Duggdowner
It's not ignorance. You would know this if you spent time with people who weren't atheists and homosexuals.
Your intolerance and hatred of others has been exposed to all to see. How...liberal of you. :-) - farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -10/+4You ARE that generation.
- schroeder, on 07/30/2008, -3/+11It IS intolerance, Spaz, when you do not "tolerate" another's way of life. It IS hatred when you "hate" people who do things that go against your viewpoints. Homosexual people are just like everyone else aside from their sexual preference which is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. You would know this if you spent time with people who weren't Christian zealots and incapable of seeing other points of view outside the umbrella of their doctrines. And for the record, I was a Christian, now am an Athiest and can see both sides of the story. I have no problem if people want to believe what they want or hate who they want as long as it doesn't infringe on another's right to do the same and to live in peace and equality.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -5/+8Hey Spaz, lemme get this STRAIGHT (I kid I kid)
You think that if you dont hate homosexuality you are a liberal, athiest, and a *****?
Last I checked, I voted for Bush, the ccd class I teach on sundays learned about the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict, and my girlfriend LOVES my *****.
Im happy I love God, and can still accept and appreciate people different from me. Except you Spaz, I dont appreciate you. - LastVisibleDog, on 07/30/2008, -9/+6DuggDowner knows bigots (from looking in the mirror)
- MisterWonderful, on 07/30/2008, -8/+10Poor kids.
- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -2/+4Trust me, boycotting Mclames is the best thing anyone ever did for their childrens health.
- MisterWonderful, on 07/30/2008, -5/+5Yep, gotta get those kids healty so we can ship them off to the middle east ready to fight!
- dennisz, on 07/30/2008, -10/+7having worked with children for over 35 years, I can tell you I have never met a homosexual who was not molested as a child and led into the life style. Homosexuals do not reproduce but seduce. The trail of tears and the harm that they have caused to so many is a such a sin, but maybe that is why the bible says their are to be put to death. God said it and had it written for the world to see and follow. Don't get mad at me any more than you get mad at the postman who brings you a letter with the truth in it that you owe a bill.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+11"I can tell you I have never met a homosexual who was not molested as a child."
I have. More to the point, there is not evidence supporting the theory that homosexual orientation is always the result of molestation.
"Homosexuals do not reproduce but seduce."
Homosexuals have functioning reproductive organs, but there is little evidence supporting homosexuality as hereditary (which is what I think you meant about "reproduce"). Homosexuals do not seduce people into homosexual orientation, nor do heterosexuals.
"The trail of tears and the harm that they have caused to so many is a such a sin."
Child molesters, regardless of who they harm, cause a trial of tears. Not homosexuals or heterosexuals, though.
"Don't get mad at me any more than you get mad at the postman who brings you a letter with the truth in it that you owe a bill."
I won't get mad, I will get sad, that you think this bill is actually true, when you have no evidence to support it. - ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -3/+8"Having worked with children for over 35 years, I can tell you I have never met a homosexual who was not molested as a child, and led into the lifestyle." So, exactly how does working with children lead to one meeting homosexuals who share their childhood trauma with you?
- nippinawassee, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5Convenient excuse but it won't fly.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+11"I can tell you I have never met a homosexual who was not molested as a child."
- JulyZerg, on 07/30/2008, -6/+9This is the first time I've felt true respect for McDonalds.
And I still do not understand the claim that giving homosexuals basic human rights is going to make traditional marriage collapse. If you say that allowing people to marry will make people alter their sexual orientation, then how would there be homosexuals in the first place? They know that straight people are allowed to marry, so by your logic, they would find a wife and get married because that's what other people are doing.- cnsrvatv, on 07/30/2008, -7/+5This is the first time I've felt intense nausea concerning McSalami.
Having a government recognize your choice for a lover and lifetime partner is not a "basic human right". It is a privilege. If you have to get a license (approval) from the government to do something then it is not a"basic human right". If it is, then our government has gone way too far!
Marriage is ordained by God and recognized by governments for it's societal benefits. Can't see any here! - lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -4/+6Getting the government out of marriage approach is definitely a way toward equality, cnsrvatv.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+7But, if you are for government (regardless of religious beliefs) recognizing all marriages, it would definitely have many social benefits for marriages outside of the biological ability to breed children. (Which, consequently, is why infertile couples are also granted marriage).
- JulyZerg, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Conservative, could you explain why I should let a government, or even a religious work tell me who I should love?
- cnsrvatv, on 07/30/2008, -7/+5This is the first time I've felt intense nausea concerning McSalami.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -6/+10I bet you are proud of your little Nazi children.
- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -5/+7Ever since they took their first goose-steps.
- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -12/+16Always good to see a future generation of ignorant bigots.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -12/+9QUEERS DO THE D-A-M-N-D-E-S-T THINGS.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -3/+9* -my apologies to Art Linkletter
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4Republicans and Televangelists
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4?que?
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -6/+8McDonalds upper management is proving their business savvy to the stockholders. Look at the return they are getting on a $20,000.00 investment.
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -5/+10If the CEO wanted to invest his personal wealth in this, or any other cause, he could have done so without raising anyone's dander. Instead, he chose to make his personal views a matter of company policy and use the resources he's been entrusted with to further his personal cause. This behavior breaches his fiduciary responsibility to his shareholders. That alone ought to have gotten him canned.
His argument may very well be that he considered this action useful to McDonald's business strategy. However, it is a stretch to imagine how that might be.- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -3/+8I agree with you 100%. Very good post.
- RSandman, on 07/30/2008, -3/+7Yes, just LOOK at the return on $20,000!
Nearly 2,000,000 people are getting to know the new members of the board of directors of McDonald's are gay, gay friendly, gay activists, and gay-marriage supporters!
And if 1% of them decide to buy their sweet tea somewhere else today, that $20,000 down the black-hole of gay sex support just turned into another $20,000 loss...and another...and another...
You know, a few million lost here, a few million lost there, and the loss of the reputation of the company...pretty soon you're talking about some significant Return On Investment...- ihateusernames3, on 07/30/2008, -4/+3well, I for one have made McDonald's my fast food of choice since I found out how supportive they are of the glbt community. I am sure that I am not the only one, so it probably makes up for the 1% loss to boycotting (actually, it said in the article that some people turned into McD's just b/c of the boycotters)
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5@ihateusernames3
I'm sure that all the homosexuals patronizing McDonald's as a result of their decision will make up for all of us traditional value families that boycott. I urge you to bet your life's savings on this idea. The less money you have, the less you can support immoral causes. - lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1"I urge you to bet your life's savings on this idea. The less money you have, the less you can support immoral causes."
On the bright side, apparently he doesn't consider you patronizing McDonalds supporting immoral causes. Which is accurate, since it only is supporting a business who's for non-discrimination in business practices.
Unless he's saying "the more money you spend on immoral causes, the less you can support immoral causes with." In which case, it's a very true and hilarious statement to make. - ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1She.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+1Thanks. pjr12345's profile said "A person."
Oddly enough, I don't know why but I wrote down "she" to start, but figured I should change the default to "he." - ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -2/+2Actually, I thought you were talking about IHusernames, but I see now you were referring to pj. Oops. I don't know what pj is.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -2/+3$20,000 is a corn in a turd for McDonald's.
Bitch all you want AFA, the fatties of the world will never let the McD stock plummet.- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -4/+3Did you know the red states are the fattest?
- pjr12345, on 07/30/2008, -5/+10If the CEO wanted to invest his personal wealth in this, or any other cause, he could have done so without raising anyone's dander. Instead, he chose to make his personal views a matter of company policy and use the resources he's been entrusted with to further his personal cause. This behavior breaches his fiduciary responsibility to his shareholders. That alone ought to have gotten him canned.
- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -14/+16Good for McDonald's to stand up to these America-hating Christian thugs. Let's hope we can get these nutjob Christo-fascists to boycott more public spaces. A country free of their lot would truly be a free America.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -10/+12Generally, if no-one is paying you- being wrong, for wrong's sake- is, well- wrong-lol.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -5/+6Satan pays me in lesbians
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -4/+3@ 'lena
"That's s-p-e-c-i-a-l-" and relavent too.............? - Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -2/+3I just made it up. Some of these people believe in that kind of thing though.
- michael4lsu, on 07/30/2008, -10/+13DuggDowner, sometimes I wonder if you make these posts just to get a reaction from others for your own amusement. I can't imagine someone could possibly be as backwardly delusional as yourself.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -9/+9" I can't imagine someone could possibly be as backwardly delusional as yourself."
says the man worshipping the zombie as he eats what he thinks is the zombie's flesh. - JimmySpaza, on 07/30/2008, -8/+8Yes, Duggdowner really thinks like that. He is a typical liberal who talks about tolerance but hates everyone not like himself.
Plus, I think that this homosexual issue is a real...problem for him if you know what I mean. - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+7Typical idiot. That liberal is wrong because he must be a fag.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -6/+4@ lena-
No, liberal is wrong for being liberal, (hell, even Marx recognised that).
Faghellah are wrong on GP, (yourself being sweet example). - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -4/+5I know. You are smarter than him. You know I am only wrong when I contradict the bible.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4@ 'lena-
That would apply to the whole of humanity Ma'am. - Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -3/+3Other people can be wrong even when they are not contradicting the bible.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -9/+9" I can't imagine someone could possibly be as backwardly delusional as yourself."
- RSandman, on 07/30/2008, -7/+6Haaahaha...I'm chuckling, of course, as we must take that as pure sarcasm.
(Since otherwise it would just be stupid as well as backwards...)- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -4/+5Unless its you that is backwards. Then everything becomes crystal clear.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -10/+12Generally, if no-one is paying you- being wrong, for wrong's sake- is, well- wrong-lol.
- ginger007, on 07/30/2008, -12/+13pjr12345 and all other believers,
I agree and amen all your comments so I don't have to add anything to make my viewpoint. I only want to say that reading Proverbs Ch 9 reminds me of what we are blogging with. I pray for these people and hope that when they bow the knee to Jesus in the end( Rev.that blood will flow to the brain soon enough for them to ask forgiveness. I don't think they will have time then but we know the great mercy of God and that is all we can do. I have decided to simply make my stand and not reply to statements of such low caliber. God Bless all of you who trust Jesus and stand for decency.- cnsrvatv, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4Plus (1)
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6Speaking of standing for decency and the wisdom of Solomon, let it be known that this wise king had no fewer than 700 wives and 300 concubines. And people say gays are promiscuous.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -3/+2Fagellah ARE promiscuous, and carry 50% of ALL STD's on earth.
Solomon ackowledged what you speak, (and you can't point to the Christian who didn't know-that)- then claimed he was a fool, to think he could maintain peace thropugh, "marriage"- can you-now see how transparent a fagellah 'marriage" is to Christians, for these self-same reasons you speak).
Let me just say this now.
i've been monitoring ALL-U-ALLs-PAGAN-POSTINGS:
You can't dress-down a Christian on the Bible, thier-own FAITH, or thier abundant LOVE.
FACT IS: there is an incessant carcaphony of demonic screams claiming the ONLY GOD to EVER claim He was ALIVE, is without end. SELAH.
FACT IS: EVERY single "god" that any might claim to "exist", has an origin, ("someone", or "something"- created them. Of ALL THE "GODS", THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT CLAIMS 'BECAUSE I CHOOSE -" I AM"
HELL, THAT"S HIS NAME. - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3Homosexuals and heterosexuals can choose to be promiscuous. One is not required to.
Homosexuals and heterosexuals can choose to have safe sex to prevent STDs. One is not required to.
Homosexual and heterosexual marriage can be fulfilling instead of transparent. One is not required to.
Please cite evidence to back up your claim that 50% of all STD infections are homosexuals. (That would be impressive). - Mnementh2230, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2lydecker - I was gonna say something, but you took the words out of my fingers, so to speak.
- Barbary, on 08/01/2008, -0/+1ginger007. You are a good soul but do not forget that when someone meets Jesus it is too late to repent. It has got to be done before death.
- cnsrvatv, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4Plus (1)
- CC777, on 07/30/2008, -9/+7Good for McDonalds....I'm happy to let them promote the homosexual agenda. Let THEM procreate and buy their happy meals.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -10/+11Dungdowner and your minion of liberal friends - McDonald's as a corporation is not standing up to anybody. There are a few upper level managers that are using McDonald's Corporation as a platform to further their own agenda. They are spending (losing) corporate dollars to that end. Unless those employees own a voting majority of stock, they only have the rights of speech within their job description for the corporation that the stockholders give them. Watch for large changes when the 3rd and 4th quarter earnings statements are published to the stockholders. When they see a large cut in dividends, you can bet McDonald's as a corporation will distance themselves from these users.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+10Wow. Another article about not eating at McDonalds. I see you are talking about the important issues.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -4/+6I know this is off topic, but what is the name of that Elton John song? ummmm......ummmm
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -5/+5dunn- something about a "bitch" maybe-?
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -3/+2I was thinking more along the lines of going back to your cow.
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -5/+4Eating at McDonalds is probably one of the single most progressive acts one can do as an American.
McDonalds is making people fat, giving them cancer, giving them heart attacks, destroying the environment and promoting cruelty to animals.
Its about time fundamentalist Christians do something that is that useful - SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -3/+3Boycotting the support of fagellah issues, is of import to the True Suns of the Living God, (it's a Christian-thing Ma'am, OBVIOUSLY you don't get-it).
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -4/+6I know this is off topic, but what is the name of that Elton John song? ummmm......ummmm
- 10QGZus, on 07/30/2008, -10/+10We haven't eaten at McDonald's in years. The only reason we did is because the kids liked the happy meals and it was cheap. Now that they are grown, they go to In-N-Out Burger, which is the best fast food burger place ever! We also go to Chic-Fil-A and that's about it for fast food.
McDonald's will feel this in the wallet soon. Families don't want to their hard earned money, especially in these hard economic times, going to an organization that supports such a flagrant anti-family event such as these homosexual pride parades, where they defile the beliefs of Christians openly and flaunt their immoral lifestyle choice. - meeksam, on 07/30/2008, -9/+8Amazing stupidity! I wouldn't be suprised if they were whittled down to a greasy spoon restuarant after this. They won'y get my money anymore.
- StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -4/+15Obviously I need to go buy breakfast at McDs again this week to compensate.
- JimmySpaza, on 07/30/2008, -13/+5Good for you. Show your support of immorality and deviance.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -5/+13Non-discrimination in business practices is not immorality or deviance.
- StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -2/+10Jimmy, you need to get laid. You're such a stick in the mud.
I support everyone's right to do whatever they want to whatever consenting adult they want. Thats not immorality, thats knowing the limits on my moral authority. - JimmySpaza, on 07/31/2008, -4/+3"I support everyone's right to do whatever they want to whatever consenting adult they want. Thats not immorality, thats knowing the limits on my moral authority."
Bullcrap. When homosexual activists have a PUBLIC parade on PUBLIC property where everyone, including children, can see their nakedness, lewdness, and sexuality on display...that is bullcrap. And McDonald's is supporting such events through their partnership with these homosexual groups.
Check out the video of the "parade" which was supported by McDonald's.
http://www.boycottmcdonalds.com
Now, tell me that this is only about non-discrimination in hiring practices. - StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -3/+2Did the state give them the permits? Why don't you have them arrested for indecency? Go ahead. Make a citizens arrest if they are breaking the law.
"Now, tell me that this is only about non-discrimination in hiring practices."
I never said it was. I'm supporting McDonalds to piss off TYRONEBR and to a lesser extent every fundamentalist on digg. I honestly don't care who they gave their money too as long as it doesn't kill people or make the world a more dangerous place to live. Unfortunately I'd have to boycott every place that pays taxes. - StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -3/+2I think one of these fair minded, free speech, be tolerant of my religion you godless heathen types has a script that automatically diggs my comments down. I seem to get a negative digg even when nobody is around to respond to a post.
Oh well. Jimmy has an appropriate supporter now. - StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2Digg this down if you love me.
- StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2Nope? Apparently just a stalker ... who is refreshing my profile page every 3 minutes. Even funnier.
- lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -2/+3You should know that the NGLCC's corporate partnership with McDonald's is what sparked the boycott. Not the fact that they supported the homosexual community (which, does not mean they support EVERYTHING homosexuals do) in a commercial.
Listen to the McDonalds video. Did they support nudity? Did they support lewdness? No, they support their march for equality. That's not bullcrap. What a few people display is not representative of the actions of the whole.
It's about non-discrimination EVERYWHERE, and the only place McDonald's can affect in their hiring practices.
- StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -4/+7MMmmmm that egg mcmuffin was great. Coffee not bad either. And somehow I think I can handle the cholesterol once in a while. I'll just have oatmeal on Sunday instead of pancakes.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -6/+4i'm sure you can fit-in a few bigmax
- StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6I'm sure you can fit your own head up your ass.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+6I wonder if ducks like fries.
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5Oh hell yes. So do homeless people.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -5/+3-More than Christians do, (if they come from McDonalds).
- StaticThunder, on 07/30/2008, -3/+3Ducks like everything. Especially cats!
- StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -2/+2Today was a chicken biscuit, coffee and trans-fat free hash browns. Awesome!
Maybe tomorrow I'll try the fruit and yogurt cup.
- JimmySpaza, on 07/30/2008, -13/+5Good for you. Show your support of immorality and deviance.
- BettyLou2, on 07/30/2008, -7/+7I can understand all of the outrage, but when you consider that most normal people have already figured out that the food served there is dangerous to your health and well-being, doesn't it make sense that the marketing experts would tailor their appeal to those who are most likely to disregard what is dangerous to their health and well-being?
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5This isn't about marketing or their marketing experts at all. Their marketing experts, if you've seen McDonald's adds, try now to market healthy choice options, coffee, etc. Their marketing target audiences, the health conscious, are more apt to consider these options.
Don't know what marketing has to do with the boycott though. - farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4Nicely said BettyLou2!
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -1/+1It was her first darlin free post.
- durlek, on 07/30/2008, -5/+4Bettylou,
Yours is by far the best explanation I’ve seen regarding this issue. That must be why the McDonalds marketing department has decided to court the 1 or 2% of the population which is homosexual while offending people from the 98 or 99% of the population who don’t wish to support the “gay agenda”.- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+3This has nothing to do with their marketing department! Look at their ads! Look at their stores! Are they "marketing" to only the homosexual population? I haven't seen ANY homosexual targeted marketing. I have seen marketing targeted towards families, so where does that fall? In the 98% or 2%?
Could it be that even if they did choose to one day market to homosexuals, that they ALSO market to heterosexuals? It's not dichotomous. - ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -2/+7I'll hazard a gues that most of that 98% is not on the same page as durlek or betty lou.
- durlek, on 07/30/2008, -2/+2You may be right, thoughtfulWi. The McDonalds marketing department may be on what Jesus called “the wide road”.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -1/+3As are all non-discriminatory businesses.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+3This has nothing to do with their marketing department! Look at their ads! Look at their stores! Are they "marketing" to only the homosexual population? I haven't seen ANY homosexual targeted marketing. I have seen marketing targeted towards families, so where does that fall? In the 98% or 2%?
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5This isn't about marketing or their marketing experts at all. Their marketing experts, if you've seen McDonald's adds, try now to market healthy choice options, coffee, etc. Their marketing target audiences, the health conscious, are more apt to consider these options.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+7I would like to know what operating system you hypocrites are using to post here considering Apple, Microsoft, and Sun Microsystems are on the list of companies you should be boycotting.
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -2/+7They don't have enough and are not smart enough to use Solaris. Maybe they are using Ubuntu or Mandrake Linux as those are ridiculously easy.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6Don't those use unix code written by Sun?
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4It is a GOOD thing you are into Mu Thai, workout, know how to use implements of pain, know how to use implements of restraint and are good looking enough to stun the average geek for at least 30 seconds.
To put it simply: "NO!" Those are fighting words!
Linux and Solaris are both unix, but they have independently written code bases.
Solaris was made for big back end servers, Sun is a for profit company and most of their stuff is proprietary.
Linux was written from scratch by the Free(dom) Software Foundation (FSF ask GNU, gnu.org ) and Linus Torvalds to be a Free(as in freedom - non proprietary, no rules for use ) and open source ( you can see and do what you want with the source code ) operating system that would do what unix does but would be able to run on a smaller computer like a PC.
Unix was originally made by Bell Labs and enhanced in Academia. Various lisencing things allowed several companies to take unix and develop their own versions. - ieee, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4I'm sure someone who is not as handsome as I am will nitpick but the Free Software Foundation releases Linux under the GNU Public License (GPL), which allows you to anything you want with the source code EXCEPT pass it off as your own or keep others from having/seeing/using it. There are more rules, some controversial. But the GPL is what makes Linux special.
Sun and some other Unix vendors have since released versions of unix that will run on smaller machines. Sun even made an open source version of Solaris - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4"you are into Mu Thai, workout, know how to use implements of pain, know how to use implements of restraint"
Thats because I am an anime character that came to life.
http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=67111_E ... - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -2/+3""NO!" Those are fighting words!"
The best way to instantly get an answer to any Linux question is to use the following line on a Linux message board;
Linux sucks because it can't (whatever you want to do) - ieee, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4I've been using Linux for 8 years and I am STILL amazed that Linux aficionados fall for that.
OTOH, it is also why astroturfing is pretty stupid. It provides a segway for Linux fans to ADVERTISE how good Linux is without looking like they are bragging without being asked. - Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -2/+4"I've been using Linux for 8 years and I am STILL amazed that Linux aficionados fall for that"
I know about open source. Do you think I felt like typing all that? - ieee, on 07/30/2008, -1/+4LOL!
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -2/+3That open source sounds liberal to me. It sounds exactly like what someone named Linus would come up with. I bet his mom was high and watching Snoopy cartoons while he was born and gave him a no rules childhood.
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -1/+3Richard Stallman is frequently accused of being a communist. Hell, he square dances! Torvalds is Scandnavian.
- elcalrissian, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6Linux doesn't even matter, because Dell, IBM, HP, Intel and others support the gays too!
Not to mention AT&T, Visa, mastercard, capital one, american express, cisco.... - SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4Love how you cheeseburgers can't stay on topic for a sneeze-
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5We are on topic. We are just using big words.
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5I'm not a cheeseburger, I'm a vegan!
- ihateusernames3, on 07/30/2008, -0/+8it is perfectly on topic. If you are going to boycott one company for being tolerant and supportive of glbt people, it would be hypocritical to not boycott them all
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -2/+4God wants you to set up a christian internet without any of these companies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxx9UsopV9k- ieee, on 07/31/2008, -2/+2That BBS almost looked fun. I miss the days of the pure text internet. It somehow seemed more magical and fun, like using a short wave radio.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -4/+3Uhhh aside from menatally masturbating yourself, (proclaiming edicts from something you don't believe in)-
Makes me think stupid, is genetic with you- - Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -2/+2It reminds me of a time not so long ago that only smart people had computers. Those days may be gone for good, but we will always have fond memories. These days everyone has free phone plans without even learning to solder.
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3Stupid, is genetic? Now who is proclaiming edicts from something they don't believe in?
- ieee, on 07/30/2008, -2/+7They don't have enough and are not smart enough to use Solaris. Maybe they are using Ubuntu or Mandrake Linux as those are ridiculously easy.
- KCLorelei39, on 07/30/2008, -4/+7"Who you calling black?!" - pot to kettle
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+4I am not being hypocritical. I may be openly bisexual but I don't boycott Microsoft for religious reasons. Here is your missing link though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hadxBZWxNrs- KCLorelei39, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6just because my post happened to follow yours, does not mean I was addressing *you* in particular.
This particular issue is not the hill I'm prepared to make my stand upon, if that makes sense? Not as an American citizen, and not as a citizen of God's Jerusalem, either. - SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -3/+3Niether do i. i boycott on moral reasons, (bet you never did that either).
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2I boycott strip clubs that don't support bisexual supremacy by letting me in for free.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -2/+3@ lena' i'm sure you have your 'priorities"
- KCLorelei39, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6just because my post happened to follow yours, does not mean I was addressing *you* in particular.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+4I am not being hypocritical. I may be openly bisexual but I don't boycott Microsoft for religious reasons. Here is your missing link though
- JimmySpaza, on 07/30/2008, -11/+10It will be a great day when the homosexual activists and liberal supporters go away once and for all. I'm tired of this country being run into the ground by leftists with their hypocrisy about tolerance and empathy when they clearly have none for anyone not like themselves.
Hit McDeviants where it hurts...in their wallets. If money is all they worship, then we'll show them that the god of money is a losing proposition.- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+8I think it will be a great day when the lesbian Twi'leks take me for a ride on their ship and ask me to give them anal probes. I don't actually think its going to happen.
- farmerjohn48pan, on 07/30/2008, -6/+7Corrupt soul. How sad.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5If you are sad. Pray for me.
- DuggDowner, on 07/30/2008, -7/+7It'll be a great day when Stalinists like Jimmy Spaza finally die off. I imagine they'll all have brain aneurysms from too much collective outrage at some poor homosexual or minority not being treated like a third class citizen.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -5/+4someday soon, you' will get your wish, (be happy- go have a cookie).
- JimmySpaza, on 07/31/2008, -2/+4I would never wish for YOUR death, Duggdowner. What is it like to walk around with so much hate in your heart?
Perhaps you're not a liberal after all. Liberals supposedly have empathy, tolerance, and patience. You have nothing but hate and mean-spirited feelings. You're not a liberal. You're just a hate-monger. - SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -2/+2@ JP (doen't that make him LIBERAL)-?
- schroeder, on 07/30/2008, -4/+9The stride towards freedom will never go away. "Leftists" ( I suppose you mean anyone who doesn't agree with you) don't care if you are Christan and have your belief and morals. We just don't want you deciding what we can or cannot do, feel or think when it really doesn't effect you at all.
- JimmySpaza, on 07/31/2008, -2/+4No problem. I'm a libertarian too except for a few issues.
But, if/when homosexual activists promote the mandatory inclusion of social agenda indoctrination in schools where my kids my be affected, then screw your "freedom" to do so.
If you don't want anyone telling you what to do in a moral sense, then don't YOU tell anyone including schools what to do either. - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -3/+6As long as people don't include heterosexuals in any education, there would be no reason to provide equality via homosexuals in education.
If you don't want people to know about couples, then don't teach about any couples. - JimmySpaza, on 07/31/2008, -7/+4@lydecker
"As long as people don't include heterosexuals in any education, there would be no reason to provide equality via homosexuals in education."
Why? Heterosexual interaction is how evolution works. Homosexuality is a biological dead end and thus, according to evolutionary theory, are the result of "bad" mutations.
Hey, don't blame me. You leftists wanted God taken out of the picture and evolutionary theory (from bacteria to human) to reign supreme. You'll now have to deal with the consequences of your decisions. - eir574, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6@Jimmy,
Is your entire worth as a person determined by whether or not you can have children? If you're married, would the validity and strength of your marriage be called into question if you or your spouse were infertile?
No? Then, perhaps it's time to stop pretending that evolutionary theory has anything to say about morality. Anyone who says otherwise is absolutely incorrect, and I think you know that. I certainly don't see a whole lot of people who accept the validity of evolutionary theory claiming that it demands that we take any action at all that we think helps further it along.
Sure, there are always going to be misguided people who use evolution (or really anything at all, including religion) to justify their misdeeds. That doesn't mean they're right to do so, and I suspect that you know that as well. Do you throw that in the faces of those who disagree with you on issues such as homosexuality just for your own amusement? You don't actually believe what you're saying, do you? You don't actually believe that you know that "leftists" think that any scientific theory demands that it be applied to issues of morality, do you?
Heterosexual sex is how reproduction works. A marriage is not declared abnormal or valueless just because a couple either can't have children or chooses not to. - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3"Why?"
Because there's a lot more to human sexuality and couples to learn than just about sexual reproduction and genetics.
I don't blame you for your misunderstanding of the left, evolution, nor equality in education. We will have to deal with the REAL consequences of our actions. Which aren't what you say they are, as evidenced by all lessons where same sex couples are taught about alongside the nuclear family alongside Spanish style extended families, alongside single parent families, etc. In fact, if we were advocating that evolution be taught in every class outside of science (which is ridiculous), there's no need for "couples" in evolution, just sexual reproduction. But I am in fact for teaching about safe sex and birth control as well.
- JimmySpaza, on 07/31/2008, -2/+4No problem. I'm a libertarian too except for a few issues.
- Evilena, on 07/30/2008, -7/+8I think it will be a great day when the lesbian Twi'leks take me for a ride on their ship and ask me to give them anal probes. I don't actually think its going to happen.
- catholic2u, on 07/30/2008, -10/+5There is room for homosexuals in this world, just not their life style which is purposely contrived to have attention focused on them. Why else the depraved nudity and degrading behavior known by all societies as pornography in action? It is sad to see corporations abetting this life style for their own purposes. They are not doing homosexuals any favors. However, money is the bottom line and they will continue as long as no one objects by boycotting them. But once the bottom line is vanishing, so will their support. The only good thing to come out of all this is that those of us who have respect for each other as well as homosexuals will get satisfaction out of doing something about it such as boycotting those businesses supporting homosexual life styles. I welcome the opportunity.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6Homosexuals lifestyle is simply the heterosexual lifestyle with a gender switched. There is nothing that is necessarily contrived or attention seeking about being attracted to someone of the same gender.
The behavior at Pride festivals is because they are proud of their sexuality, and they are open to letting people know that they are who they are. In the parades that allow nudity (they typically don't), it's the same nudity and behavior that goes on in most people's sex lives.
It is sad to think that people think corporations are abetting a lifestyle, when in fact they are supporting non-discriminatory policies in their business practices, treating homosexuals equally as they do heterosexuals. They ARE doing them favors by not discriminating.
The good thing that will come out of all of this is that homophobia and prejudice against sexual orientation will eventually be no more, and people won't mistake the push for gay equality as a push for anything else anymore.- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2If that statement were true, (you nutty bay-fish) then FAGELLAH wouldn't have the HIGHEST MURDER/SUICIDE/STD DEATHS of ALL PEOPLE ON EARTH.
hehe-"bay-fish" - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Could you explain logic? Because it's wrong.
They would have the second highest suicide rates, next to teenagers and young adults. And likely a highest murder rate. Which is probably accurate. Why? Because of their treatment by others, and the problems they deal with when realizing their sexual orientation. They are teased and ridiculed, and hated, and denigrated, many disowned by their families, friends, and they even shame themselves.
And STD infection/death rates depend on sex, not on sexual orientation. Which is why different physical acts of sex have different transmission rates of STDs. While anal sex is higher than vaginal, which is higher than oral, they are both higher than lesbian sex.
The statement is true, no if's about it.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -1/+2If that statement were true, (you nutty bay-fish) then FAGELLAH wouldn't have the HIGHEST MURDER/SUICIDE/STD DEATHS of ALL PEOPLE ON EARTH.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6Homosexuals lifestyle is simply the heterosexual lifestyle with a gender switched. There is nothing that is necessarily contrived or attention seeking about being attracted to someone of the same gender.
- InRussetShadows, on 07/30/2008, -7/+8Mickey D's doesn't want my green? Ok, deal.
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -5/+5I'll bet posting those nasty, naked homosex pics got the AFA a record number of hits on their website. They probably wouldn't let Joe post them on WND.
- Christianptriot, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6All rhetoric aside, McD's is reaping millions of dollars in free advertising over this. I have worked in the media and advertising for a couple decades or more and have seen companies in the past purposely create conflict in order to gain the free advertising of the news media - and now Digg and other Internet sites that simply spread the word McDonald's all over the place for free.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -1/+9Are you theorizing that McDonald's conspired with WND and the AFA to create a boycott, therefore giving the media opportunity to report on the boycott and get publicity?
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -2/+10Doubt it was a conspiracy, but I think CP has a point. I have noticed that on all these boycott articles from WND, and on the AFA website as well, the golden arches are prominently displayed. And that is , most definitely, free advertising. Look at the photo at the top of the page, and what really catches your eye, the protesters, or that nicely photograped, beautifully curving golden arch from that 50s structure, which makes the older folks like me feel warm and fuzzy for our childhood days. It's made me wonder what WND is up to, but I'm more inclined to attribute it to the shoddiness of the work at Joe Farah's rag than to a conspiracy. You see the same thing in the anti Obama articles that feature flattering photos of Mr. Obama. WND just wants to continually fan the flames of fear and anger, and in their desperation so to do, they don't engage their brains much. And, who knows, maybe McDonald's is manipulating the deal.
- eir574, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5I'd have to agree -- that $20,000 McDonald's donated was probably one of the cheaper advertising campaign's they've ever run. I'm sure it wasn't hard to predict the outcome given how easily sites like WND can move people to outrage. Perhaps that money would never have been donated in the first place if there weren't a decently sized community of people ready to boycott absolutely anything even tangentially related to condoning the sexual activities of two adults of the same gender in the privacy of their homes.
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -4/+4That is giving those WND idiots way too much credit.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -3/+5@ 'lena, (Obi Wan said it best, but- )
Which is MORE IDIOTIC, the news source itself- OR the pagan who claims it is IDIOTIC, and continues to READ IT DAILY-?
Einstien says YOU ARE INSANE. - Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -2/+5Obi Wan said it best, I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. No mystical energy field controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3And some call Einstein a patent clerk with delusions of grandeur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnQLsERqTIg - lydecker, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5"pagan who claims it is IDIOTIC, and continues to READ IT DAILY"
Anybody know who he is referring to?
Does this mean Jon Stewart is idiotic, for making fun of idiocy in the MSM, and still watching it everyday?
Anyway, Solgaard doesn't care to let on that he understands (if he does) the reason someone who thinks it's idiotic would read it is to familiarize themselves with the idiocy of those who write it. Like that one site, "We watch Fox News so you don't have to." - ashfish, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5One can only combat their enemy by first getting to know them. I read news from all sorts of sources, conservative, liberal, independent, just so I can be sure I know what's being discussed and the different points of view. Sometimes certain sources (WND for example) are hard to digest but its important to be as informed as you can be.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -1/+9Are you theorizing that McDonald's conspired with WND and the AFA to create a boycott, therefore giving the media opportunity to report on the boycott and get publicity?
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5One more time.http://www.nglcc.org/corporate/partners So many boycotts, so little time.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -3/+4ThoughtfulWi - The big difference between all of the other corporate partners and McDonald's is, none of the other corporate partners have said in public, if you don't agree with homosexual marriage, "you are motivated by hate". A handful of McDonald's executives have hijacked the corporation to further their own personnel agenda. I can find zero instances of anything like that from the other partners of the NGLCC. We will see after earnings are posted if the stockholders agree with what is going on. At the end of the day, it won't matter what any of us have to say. It will all be about dividends.
- ihateusernames3, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5this whole thing started b/c McDonalds was put in a position of having to say in public that they support gay rights. If WND harassed any of the other corporate partners, they would probably do the same thing
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -4/+3I agree with you that McDonald's "executives" were put in a position of having to say in public that they support "gay marriage" and gay rights. But you are wrong about WND having enough clout to harass these people enough to say it. McDonald's execs are ignoring WND and have been all along. The execs were pressured by the NGLCC to come out publicly after McDonald's paid $20,000.00 and put a gay executive on their board of directors. It was put up or shut up.
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5Thanks usernames. My sentiments exactly.
- ThoughtfulWi, on 07/30/2008, -1/+7Georgia can you cite anything to back that up?
- ihateusernames3, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4I dont really think it matters whether it was WND, the NGLCC, or anybody else who pressured McD's to 'pick a side'. The point is they were forced to, as we could presume that any NGLCC member would make the same decision as McD's did.
- georgiajim, on 07/30/2008, -3/+4ThoughtfulWi - The big difference between all of the other corporate partners and McDonald's is, none of the other corporate partners have said in public, if you don't agree with homosexual marriage, "you are motivated by hate". A handful of McDonald's executives have hijacked the corporation to further their own personnel agenda. I can find zero instances of anything like that from the other partners of the NGLCC. We will see after earnings are posted if the stockholders agree with what is going on. At the end of the day, it won't matter what any of us have to say. It will all be about dividends.
- beastwood, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5Is American Family Association going to continue to ignore the main attack on "traditional" marriages i.e., the marriage penalty in the Republican-sponsored tax code.
- nippinawassee, on 07/30/2008, -2/+8Ref: gay 'pride' parade "...male frontal nudity..." I remember the time the streaker raced across the auditorium during I think some kind of hollywood awards, Oscars, etc., and David Niven was the host. His comment comes to mind: "There he goes... showing all his shortcomings!"
couldn't have been better said.- SOLGAARD, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5apparently the cheese-wheels in the audience would disagree, (+1)
- BettyLou2, on 07/30/2008, -4/+4News Flash!!
Normal folks wise up to the Grease Bombs served at McD's and take their family to healthy eating establishments. McD's replace lost customers with segment of society who do not discriminate against what they put into their body. McD's killing new client base with kindness (and grease) and new customers are getting all gay over their special treatment.- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5News flash!
Non-discrimination is not special treatment.
And it's about time those "normal" people stopped eating those hamburgers, we're tired of our fat red states. The smart blue liberal and gay friendly states eat healthier.
And I hope everyone does take their family to healthy eating establishments, or choose healthy McDonald's food choices. You might not be aware of their marketing campaign (that's obvious), but they have a lot of healthy choices of food that aren't traditional grease soaked burgers.
- lydecker, on 07/30/2008, -3/+5News flash!
- notbysight, on 07/30/2008, -4/+3Well..Plastic pride in pink, I wonder if they exposed Ronalds McDonald in that parade.?
- DOGODSWILL, on 07/31/2008, -8/+4 As I have been saying , all the LIBERALS , HOMOSEXUALS, ATHEIST, comments above , can not be supported by anything that anyone can find in the BIBLE.The only thing all you UNGODLY people can find to support your UNGODLY agendas , are your UNGODLY friends.What I can't understand is , what AMERICAN VALUES do you people use to support your HABITS . ALL I ever here *****'S say is that CHRISTIANS hate them or that *****'S hate CHRISTIANS . -------JESUS said we all have a right to HATE SIN , but not the person committing it. So if CHRISTIAN hate the SIN of HOMOSEXUALITY (and the BIBLE makes it very clear that it is one of the practiced SINS that a person will burn in HELL for ) what is the *****'S problem with it . ----" to me it proves we CHRISTIANS love your SOULS " . So if *****'S HATE the SINS of CHRISTIANS ( WE "CHRISTIANS" have no problem with that ) ---------------(example) to make a point clear , we all are SINNERS . There are LOST SINNERS and SAVED SINNERS , but all living humans are SINNERS .The only difference between lost and saved SINNERS is that a saved person can have a personal relationship with JESUS CHRIST and a lost person can't until he repents of HIS SINS and excepts CHRIST into HIS heart.-----------------------------I wonder how many *****'S can read ROMANS 12:2 and not understand what it is saying .
- StaticThunder, on 07/31/2008, -4/+3"Ungodly" is not an epithet. "Christian" is becoming one, however, thanks to the likes of you.
- Evilena, on 07/31/2008, -2/+4"I wonder how many *****'S can read ROMANS 12:2 and not understand what it is saying"
You don't get it. They understand it and don't care what it says. - ieee, on 07/31/2008, -2/+2The quickest way to get yourself labeled as a a crank on the internet is to use all caps.
- Sabonel, on 07/31/2008, -3/+2I'm A Christian, but I think if you guys knew what went on in every nook and cranny place you do business, I think you'd starve to death. It really isn't gonna make a difference to McDonald's if Christians say they are going to boycott or not, because most of those who say they will boycott won't, and gays(and advocates) will be more determined to patronize McDonald's. Face it people, these are the end times. I think AFA needs to come to grips with that, and use their resources to winning people to Christ, instead picking out groups of people who are the way they are by choice, and there isn't anything they can do about it. Starving them out isn't going make them stop, and turn to Christ. Stopping them from being gay, or boycotting the businesses that support them isn't winning them to Christ. We shouldn't be eating at fast food joints anyway for the sake of the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Face it!! you can not stop people from doing these things! McDonald's may stop, they may not. But if they do stop it isn't going advance the Kingdom of God any. It'll just show the unsaved that we want to control them instead of respecting the freewill that God gives all of us. That is what separates us from the ape. Show me a Scripture that supports what AFA is doing. Wickedness is so strong on this planet, these fleshly minstries aren't going to be fruitful. Show me some fruit
- aerostar, on 07/31/2008, -3/+4You want a scripture...? I'll give you a scripture! I hope you are sincere... and we'll ALL find out soon enuf if you are... So here is your scripture:
Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."
This is EXACTLY what AFA is doing.
Now, apologize, Sabonel.
You only asked for "a" scripture. Actually, there are many of them, which... if you were a student of God's word you would know that, & not make the humiliating mistake you just made.
If you will study God's word, you will find MANY condemnations of sin... along with MANY instructions to rebuke them & separate yourself FROM them.
You may be a Christian as you claim. It is not my right to judge. But I am told to be a "Fruit Inspector" and your fruit shows you to be a novice.
Get yourself in a real "Bible Church" & study the scripture for yourself, and you won't be embarrassing yourself like this anymore. God bless you. I hope you'll follow my prayerful advice.- ihateusernames3, on 07/31/2008, -2/+3yes, and you could probably find a sentence in the Bible supporting just about anything if you twist it around enough
- Sabonel, on 07/31/2008, -1/+3Ok you guys got me there. I do apologize, in part. I think it is right for the AFA to educate us about these things, but I don't see any fruitfulness out of their ministry, as far publically rebuking the ungodly goes. I've seen very few results in my community through their radio ministry(except negative). And don't attack my church over this, my beliefs are not based completely what they have taught me, but out of my own study time in the Word of God. Don't get me wrong, I think part of AFA is doing is good. But there is nothing in the New Testament that calls us to rebuke sinners like AFA does, Maybe I should have made myself a little bit more clear there. What would Jesus Do? He probably would have went to McDonald's and eat with the sinners like He did in the Gospels. I don't know. As far your advice goes, I've been doing that for the 15 years of my life. I can't make claims of being perfect, and neither can you. I am fully aware of the condemnation of sin in the Bible, but the book of Ephesians was written to the Church about the Church, we all know homosexuality is wrong. And I commend AFA for educating us about McDonald's.If I still go to McDonald's, will I lose my salvation? Will you still consider me a brother? I believe the Blood of Christ is for the Atonement of my Sins, and is more than sufficient. Does that not make me a brother in Christ? I think the Gospel is not about what we eat and drink, but about what Jesus did for us on the Cross and the Grave. AFA has a lot of recourses, and they should balance them out right in my humble opinion. God wants results from the talent He gave them, I hope they chose to use it wisely.
- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4actually, there is some thoughts on what you should eat, and drink- and whom you may do that with...
- Sabonel, on 07/31/2008, -1/+0Well Jesus ate with the sinners. And as I stated in my first statement, we have no business at McDonald's anyway for the body is the Temple of the Spirit. But the Kingdom of God is not about food and drink, but about leading others to Christ, like Paul said. What comes out of our mouths is what defiles us, not what we put into us, as Christ said. I think what AFA needs to do is target all their membership to pray for the CEO of McDonald's, because this boycott makes him out to be a hero in the eyes of the world. And will provoke them to be more defensive about the issue.
- aerostar, on 07/31/2008, -3/+4You want a scripture...? I'll give you a scripture! I hope you are sincere... and we'll ALL find out soon enuf if you are... So here is your scripture:
- kywaterdawg, on 07/31/2008, -6/+3Mc Donald’s support for the homosexual is only logical. Their front man is a clown, and homosexuality is nature’s comic relief.
- rdunning, on 07/31/2008, -8/+4Isn't it interesting how the reprobates in the sodomite community get so lathered up whenever someone stands up and correctly points out their lifestyle is wicked and their practices depraved? You want to see high octane hate? You want to see unbridled human rage? Simply observe a sodomite protest of a church or para-church organization and watch the tactics, listen to the utterances, and note the slogans. Examining this movement with quiet objectivity will lead most fair minded people to conclude that the sodomites are engaging in a particularly vicious calumny against those who object to this peculiar species of wickedness.
My family of 6 now drives past the golden arches. The kids have discovered that they can live without Mickey-Ds quite fine, thank you very much.- SOLGAARD, on 07/31/2008, -3/+5No, THANK-YOU VERY MUCH.
- Barbary, on 08/01/2008, -1/+1rdunning. You are quite right as well as the parents of those two kids way above. You are teaching your children well. Watch out though. If your children go to public school you will have a really hard time combating the school's promotion of the sodomite's agenda.
Reading the comments on this Digg has been really worrisome and depressing to me: I cannot believe what I am reading. So many deluded, flippant supporters of homosexuality! And so scornful of the few who take a stand against it.
It all hinges on whether you believe the Word of God or not. If you do not fear God and obey His Word, anything goes: you do not see what is so bad in a man sleeping with another man... you do not see what is so bad in destroying a say one month old "fetus" which you consider nothing but a blob of flesh... you start to think that it is ok to lie if you can get away with it... etc...
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