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- infos, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Wonder who saved all the unique animals -- such as those in Australia -- AND remembered to put them back in only those places?
- beckers, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13For me the truly sad thing is to think of all the millions the nice Christians could have spent on feeding the poor and alleviating suffering and instead use it to defend the patently indefensible - something even the majority of churches do not hold to be literally true.
Nothing short of sorrowful. - pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11it's amazing how much effort people put into their reality denial, just because they choose to literally interpret a book written over a thousand years ago.
- pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11don't hate evolution just because it skipped you.
- Stumpie2012, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12And what did we learn here Children? People who voted for Bush maybe as stupid as he is.
- HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Creationism is so flexible, first the dinosaur fossils were the devil's deception, now they're part of the Ark... who needs facts when it's much neater to bend reality to your whims?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10
Noah, 450ft boat, 30 million estimated spices of animals (some estimates are 100 million) x2= 60 million animals on the ark. That would mean 100 per second had to be loaded in the 7 days Noah loaded them. Now keep in mind that it takes a building as big as Ann Arbors big house to seat 100,000 humans elbow to elbow... the weight of 60 million animals would sink the ark in seconds... are you starting to get the picture? OK you want to argue numbers, fine... there are 1.7 million species cataloged... that would mean 3.4 million animals. That’s still 6 per second loaded non stop for those 7 days and still a HUGE weight and space problem... Still want to argue numbers? Fine... let's say 100,000 species of animals. That would mean 200,000 animals or 1 every 3 seconds loaded and still a huge weight and space problem... (surly with 1.7 million proven to exist, you can't be seriously arguing there are less then 100,000 species of animals, right?) You are? Ok then 10,000 species of animals then... try loading 1 animal every 9 seconds... into a ship smaller then Philadelphia's First Union Center (the size building it takes to hold 20,000 humans)... are you starting to understand now? I guess you could also exclude everything that swims or flies, but that still leaves an impossible high number of species...
Don't underestimate Noah. I mean, after the flood he was smart enough to drop off all the marsupials in Australia, all the penguins on antarctica, and then went to the trouble of sailing to the other side of the world to deposit the polar bears.
Face it the bible is for 3 kinds of people... those who are vain, those who are weak minded and those who like to steal money from the vain and weak-minded idiots! - OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7When people reject Al Gore as being "too smart" and accept George Bush (a man born with a silver spoon in his mouth) because he's "a guy to have a beer with at a bar", you know America is *****. Which would simply be standard history, if America didn't have nukes.
- pastaq, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I think I'm going to be sick...
- SwissCamel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Jesus?
- EntropyMan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6"Two by two, the animals boarded, until the pair of velociraptors. And thus, the story of Noah, and all of civilization, came to an abrupt and bloody end."
Didn't these people see Jurassic Park? Oh, I forgot, all dinosaurs are vegetarians. And T.Rex needed those giant teeth to eat coconuts... - Imagin8, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5This museum should be called the "Museum of faith"
- Netrilix, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Niih, if you feel bad about being lumped in with the monkey, think of how the monkey feels.
- callthisnumber, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Do they have a display that shows the Earth as the center of the solar system?
- pimpinainteasy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5From the book of Numbers 13:4-8
"Hark, there be a tyranosaur. And the tyranosaur was hungry; and it did feed upon the goats and orangutans, and it was good". - Netwatcher, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Its not a museum, its a "Hell House".
The first half of the tour is about "7 Days", "Garden of Eden", "Noah's Ark", and the "Tower of Babel". They spend the majority of those exhibits defending Noah's Ark. Somehow they manage to work in as many attempts as possible to tell you how scary sin is. They gloss over the rest of the stuff as quickly as possible, giving stock answer Christian talking points: "Dinosaurs are really birds", "The great flood dug the Grand Canyon", "Cave men.... what cave men?".
The second half is completely about Jesus.... yes you heard me. Jesus.
So after making a half assed attempt to poke holes in entire body of natural science and an even worse attempt to back their own claims; they run out of stuff and spend the rest of the tour attempting to scare you about sin, and show you a rerun of the "Passion of the Christ", In hopes that you'll convert.
Truly... truly... truly sad. - CaptainNoPants, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I don't believe I saw a number anywhere. Instead of answering a question with another question, why not just give me your answer? I'm not pretending to know anything about biochemistry, I just want to know your opinion.
- CaptainNoPants, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Science H. Logic, I feel sorry for you as well.
Tell me, how long do you believe the Universe has existed? - laterthandawn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4And they say television is responsible for the dumbing down of America...I'm thinking we've found a second shooter...
- postal21, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2http://news.nky.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=creationmuseum
This kentucky news site has a big writeup on the new Museum. I was surprised when my newspaper here in Dayton Ohio had a frontpage article detailing this new museum. For only 20 dollars we can all hear about the world being 6,000 years old and the earth being created in 6 days... and boy was god tired on the 7th. - FyreGoddess, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3See, I thought that the Noah's Ark legend was how most mythical/fantastic creatures were explained away.
The unicorns, dragons, centaurs (and dinosaurs) refused to get on the Ark and consequently died in the great flood.
I mean, if you're going to make these sorts of claims, at least give some reasoning that makes a little sense. Dinosaurs on the ark? Not so much. Dinosaurs drowned in the flood? At least somewhat plausible. - Junkyarddawg, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Yeah, isn't it weird that the bible fails to mention a single extinct species? You'd think they'd at least mention T. rex, mammoth, giant ground sloths, giant armadillos, moas, or that giant dragonfly? But not a single one of them gets a mention. Only everyday animals like ravens, sheep, and doves. Weird, isn't it?
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Notice still not one logical reply. All just I hate you, you are stupid...doesn't the bible do this or this. At least I studied evolution thoroughly and have read through everything Darwin has published and half of Dawkins and Gould's work as well before I talk about Evolution.
- OneHine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Seriously? They think it's all a giant conspiracy to destroy God. Never mind that science doesn't comment one way or another on the supernatural. Never mind that germ theory and gravity disprove God just as effectively. For creationists, it's all about them. For fundamentalists, anything that doesn't support their illogical beliefs is pure evil.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2ADAM RODE DINOSAURS?....LOL
This fundie site says Adam and Eve lived with dinosaurs....lol. Says the bible says that all animals were all vegetarians at that time. Well since fundies don't believe in evolution...such animals as mosquitos, fleas, sharks, blue whales, lice, vampire bats, all ate vegetables..lol... it even says T-Rex was a vegan...lol.
Oh, brother! And it also says they lived only 6,000 years ago..lol
http://www.missiontoamerica.com/genesis/dinosaurs-people.html
http://www.missiontoamerica.com/genesis/six-thousand-years.html - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I wonder how these people living in wonderland can cope with all the science that disproves such a story.
- JSorrell, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2The T-Rex was a voracious coconut eater.
Man, the devil is one genius of an evil bastard, making us think the Earth is actually old, that dinosaurs were originally carnivorous, that the modern theories of evolution and plate tectonics explain his ingenious Fossil Record of Evil.
It seems to me that if the devil is responsible for all the science disproving these Biblical claims, that the devil is smarter than the "I'm gonna make all the dinosaurs eat fruit" God. - kenvsryu, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Lesson of the day: Stay away from Kentucky!
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1You mean like dinosaurs? geesh, live and learn. What is more odd is that if something was in there you didn't like you would sputter until you could think of a way it wasn't saying what it blatantly does say.
- CaptainNoPants, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2niih
you wish you had monkey skills. - dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I am not entirely sure myself as I was not there to observe the phenomena, however I would put the earth handidly at 4004BC - 6000 BC. Being more conservative on this issue I am more on the 4000 side. Why would you ask such a question unless you thought you already had a smartass remark for a person that believes in a young earth. I am not here to get involved in cat-fights of smart-ass remarks. Unlike you I will not even go to dates such as the ever-changing dates of Evolution but instead I ask you about raw science. Please explain.
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Oh and by the way I have been there. When I stopped to ask the protesters what they were protesting, they just knew it was creation. Not one of them had been inside, or had any clue of Creation doctrine or biblical creation scientific studies. They were all like drones, unable to think on their own, and unable to critically decide due to a striking lack of information on many sides and seamless indoctrination on their own.
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2How many of you have been to the museum and actually taken the time to read things there, and see with an open mind what is believed?
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Of course I am sure some will lie, that haven't been there and say they were while looking online at some exhibits, and then saying it's stupid. I wish people could critically think now, instead of letting everyone else do the thinking for them. - MadSquirrel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2“Scientists, secularists and moderate Christians have pledged to protest the museum's public opening on Monday.” – Thank you for the advertising!
“Opponents argue that children who see the exhibits will be confused when they learn in school that the universe is 14 billion years old rather than 6,000.” – If anyone should be confused it should be my children, but they consistently score in the top 1-5% in science every year on the SAT exam. Of course they are given the whole story, and not just the parts that fit into one particular worldview. They are forced to deal with information and form conclusions base all the evidence, but this might confuse sheeple and ‘we’ can’t have that.
"Teachers don't deserve a student coming into class saying 'Gee Mrs. Brown, I went to this fancy museum and it said you're teaching me a lie,'" – No we don’t want people that can think for themselves and point out that “Science” by definition can not prove these concepts as “Fact”, and those that call them “Facts” are sponsoring their own religion. That claiming something from “origins” is a “scientific fact” is a Lie. Yes students need to know when they are being ‘lied’ to. - ragsmaloy, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Get these ***** dinosaurs off this ***** ark!
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I feel sorry for every single one of you. Completely blinded and religiously indoctrinated since birth by a religion of Evolution, only to turn around and scream at anyone who goes against your precious "science" which isn't even observational science to begin with. None of you even know the true presuppositions that even the most adamant and highly respected evolutionists give up. You live in faith and are blind to it, then tear down anyone you can find with faith. Truly corruption has run rampant.
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Tell me about the complexity of biochemistry. Of proteins and enzymes and aminos. Tell me about blood clotting and the evolution of the system of it. Or Cilium, or flagellum? Now you know the difference between theoretical science and true observable science.
- dbwood, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Actually if you had studied at all you would learn about speciation. Just as with presuppositions for Evolution so does Creation have them and that is that God Created. Please study speciation. Actually this is just sickening how the vast majority of these people are scientifically high-minded and woefully ignorant of science and facts. They just mindlessly regurgitate ressucitations of what they have heard. Nice interpretive framework. Try going to the museum instead of blindly and arrogantly calling out.
- ragsmaloy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0Yeah, it's quite easy to miss though as they depict the earth as flat, not one of those big devilish globe things
- Niih, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2Yeah, sure. Maybe you liberal guys evolved from monkey.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm sure I didn't;
I've seen monkeys handling tools to get fruits & open them; They totally beat me at it, I guess I rather evolved from something else without arms... Gold fish maybe?
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