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New Strategy in War on Drugs: Ban Sale of Tiny Plastic Bags

cbs2chicago.com — Tiny plastic bags used to sell small quantities of heroin, crack cocaine, marijuana and other drugs would be banned in Chicago, under a crackdown advanced Tuesday by a City Council committee. (It sounds great but where am I gonna put my stash...)

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  • danielpyle, on 03/07/2008, -42/+22I SAY YOU BAN MY EX-WIFE THAT SHOULD CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF IT TOO.....
    • rayraym0fucka, on 03/07/2008, -9/+3I would have dugg this if you hadn't typed in caps ;p
    • Proxenus, on 03/07/2008, -6/+1I dugg you up for having a great response!
    • flaknugget, on 03/07/2008, -2/+3Seriously? That's where you go with that headline? You have me sympathies.
  • spinaltap87, on 03/07/2008, -44/+26this is the DUMBEST thing I've read all day. Buried.
    • ozydingo, on 03/07/2008, -1/+49Don't shoot the messenger
      • hulez, on 03/07/2008, -4/+12no-one threatens a messenger. THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA
    • 5urr3al5am, on 03/07/2008, -0/+20this seems like a joke right out of South Park
    • carboncopy77, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2In London, Ontario Canada, they were talking about banning the sale of markers and spray cans to minors because of problems with graffiti.
      http://londoncommons.net/node/465
      • vornan19, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Here where I live you must be 18 years old to buy spray paint.
        • petebot, on 03/07/2008, -1/+8Here where I live (Chicago) you have to go out of the city to buy spray paint.
          • chinolofus, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4i dont know why someone dug you down. what you said is true. i will dig ya back up neighbor.
      • bitterbug, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2CarbonCopy, the funny thing about that ban is a friend from New York was telling me that they were banning the sale of them in his area, and I laughed at it. Then London went and did it right after.
        The stupid thing is that most of the grafitti is done by an *extremely* small number of people. That "snare" guy gets around the city like nobody's business. Someone needs to break his fingers, that'll fix him.
    • groberts1980, on 03/07/2008, -1/+16Is it dumb? Yes. Should you bury it? No.
      • ShugNinx21, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2Or he can bury it for whatever reason he pleases. Isn't that the point of Digg?
    • bsmang, on 03/07/2008, -0/+17Should digg not bury.. Need to shine a spotlight on stupidity.
      • boombye, on 03/07/2008, -1/+1They're going after something they could've gone after like 10 years ago when these were still in use here in Chicago, now nobody uses these baggies.
    • docsavatchniya, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3this is the DUMBEST thing I've read all day. Dugg.
  • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -3/+272Wow... Get your head out of your ass Chicago.
    Banning plastic bags, which have many legitimate uses, accomplishes nothing and stops no one from using pot AT ALL. People will either get their bags, in a different town, or they'll just use the bigger sizes. A little extra sized baggy is the least of their worries.
    All this does, is make things harder for the people and businesses which had legitimate uses for those baggies.

    Way to go, morons...
    • oxdeltaxo, on 03/07/2008, -1/+38I always got my stuff in sandwich bags, ends up being easier than the mini baggies. Banning the container won't stop the use of drugs, thinking otherwise is retarded. Where in their logic are they accomplishing anything?
      • groberts1980, on 03/07/2008, -0/+37This is the war on drugs we're talking about. Get the ***** out of here with your talk of "logic" and "accomplishing things."
        • Jlaugh, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6I thought the war on drugs purpose was to raise the commodity price of drugs, and increase police budgets.
      • Yez70, on 03/07/2008, -1/+7What, What, What!!

        BAN Sandwiches!! They use the bags for drugs!!!!
        • zeromous, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4Don't joke. They already have banned sandwiches containing trans-fat.
      • boombye, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4Yeah, I'm from Chicago and this is pointless because nobody puts weed in those kind of baggies, maybe other substances but not weed, but it's usually the corner of a sandwhich bag.
        • Abomonog, on 03/08/2008, -1/+1It's not about weed. It's about heroin.
    • 10001110101, on 03/07/2008, -24/+4I'm curious - what would be an legitimate use for a dime bag with pot leaves printed on it?
      • ElAssoWipo, on 03/07/2008, -0/+29Button storage.
      • tbranham, on 03/07/2008, -2/+17Medical marijuana storage?
      • RonBurgundy76, on 03/07/2008, -1/+34Not sure... but I have little baggies full of computer screws in my toolbox. It seems to keep them organized well and they don't rattle around as much...
        • Abomonog, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2Same here. And resistors, and capacitors, and transistors....
      • NoCt1, on 03/07/2008, -2/+22Having a bag with pot leaves on it. Thats my reason.
        • blast_flame, on 03/07/2008, -0/+29And if you are a free person that should be the only reason you need.
      • Godlike, on 03/07/2008, -2/+15To store pot in.
      • KSUdesigner, on 03/07/2008, -2/+22Dime storage.
        • CedEx, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5And nickels! Don't forget about them, they are so unloved.
          • KSUdesigner, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6No, nickels go in nickel bags, duh.
      • PopcornDave, on 03/07/2008, -0/+19I've often seen them used by jewelers for holding earring backs and other small pieces.
      • Scrappy1850, on 03/07/2008, -1/+15oregano
      • unicronband, on 03/07/2008, -1/+13Suffocating bugs.
        • Dested, on 03/08/2008, -2/+1I dont know how everyone else feels, but you win.
      • Sananda, on 03/07/2008, -1/+11small ideas?
      • danlowlite, on 03/07/2008, -1/+9Because I want one. Do I really need a real reason?
        I always thought the "press and seal" stuff would work wonders for this particular application.
      • Alex.w, on 03/07/2008, -0/+22That would be more reasonable if they were banning possession on bags with leaves printed on them, but it doesn't say that does it? They're banning bags, punishable by a $1500 fine, RTFA.

        Why don't they just ban the drug instead? oh wait...

        People that sell drugs are not going to stop using a particular type of bag because it is "banned". For ***** sake, they're already DRUG DEALERS!
        • raidfibre, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4I think you really hit the nail on the head there. "For ***** sake, they're already DRUG DEALERS!"
        • AxeSwinger, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1They're trying to make the bags harder to get to make distribution more difficult. But, I'm going to buy a plastic bag company and retool to make my bags 2.1 inches square and market them as Chicago Bags. Anyone interested in a joint venture?
        • jdmzpf, on 03/08/2008, -2/+1Your forgetting chain of distribution. Your thinking that because criminals wouldn't mind buying banned substances that they will be available. You've got to realize its the retail owners who won't buy them in the first place, ***** lol
      • Tomchei, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8Although the bags in question don't have pot leaves printed on them, they are the same bags that your hard drive screws come in and other specialty screws and buttons.
        • MattB123, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Right. You don't really need a pot leaf on the bag since it's transparent. If there's pot in it you'll just see that.
          But pot is generally bigger than the other drugs being discussed here and wouln't normally come in those bags anyway.

          Anyway, I'm sure the drug dealers will stop once their bag of choice is no longer legal.
          • Scrappy1850, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2the guys down on 203 in DC can pack a fat 8th or q in those "small" bags. its a business to them and the put time and effort into their packaging.
      • PhilliesBlunt, on 03/07/2008, -1/+2To sell pot.
      • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5They're going to be banning ALL dime bag sized baggies... Which means buttons, ANY small product that could be packaged in them...
        Parts for electronics sometimes come packaged in them... There's a HUGE list of legitimate uses for those bags.
    • meruru, on 03/07/2008, -2/+31"People will either get their bags, in a different town, or they'll just use the bigger sizes."
      I foresee a black market bag smuggling ring developing.
      • Chassit, on 03/07/2008, -10/+3I don't.
      • whymanwhy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+9I'm on it
      • vornan19, on 03/07/2008, -1/+7How many people smoke cigarettes that partake in other drugs? I'll tell ya: bunches.
        Don't cigarette packs come wrapped in cellophane? Yes, yes they do.
      • elk80, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4That's It. I'm moving to Chicago, and am going to set myself up as the "Bag Baron"
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 03/07/2008, -8/+7Hard drugs are commonly circulated in deflated balloons, not plastic bags.
      People fail to realize this.
      • Scrappy1850, on 03/07/2008, -1/+11i have never bought drugs in condoms or balloons.
        • ubitendo, on 03/07/2008, -14/+2You're cool for buying drugs.
          • Scrappy1850, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4read the comment again. it never says that i bought drugs or that i think it's cool.
          • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4You see, you have just proven my point to my friend sitting next to me. The comment was written in plain English. You ASSumed he bought illegal drugs. Thus making an ASS out of yourself for not reading. Which is my exact point about politics, and people who FOLLOW. People don't read anymore, let alone actually understand the 'between the lines' when put in context.

            Thank you.

            P.S. I know... We already talked about U. (Made an Ass out of yourself and U, to which we already talked about.)
        • goomba323, on 03/07/2008, -3/+4Whippits?
        • dblbender, on 03/07/2008, -0/+12yeah, let's ban condoms as well...just in case ;-)
          • MattB123, on 03/12/2008, -0/+1They promote risky behavior anyway.
      • lotu, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8Don't worry we can ban deflated balloons too.
        • accelleron, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1That'd make for some big logistics headaches in the balloon industry.
        • ShugNinx21, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5Only deflated balloons? What about inflated ones? If I buy one inflated and then it gets deflated, I'm going to be in some serious *****.
      • effedup, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6I've seen LOTS of drugs pass hands over the years and not once, ever, did any of it come in or go into a balloon.
        • ChildeRoland420, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4I've very seldom seen them come in tiny ziplock bags either, but that doesn't mean they don't
        • raidfibre, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2I guess you've never had anal crack.
        • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -1/+1I've seen a balloon used to assist in smoking drugs. does that count?
      • Monk22, on 03/07/2008, -2/+3so your aware that the ballon was most likely in someones ass.....
      • bbqsalad, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6lol they are trasnported INSIDE people that way.. Not sold like that.. unless you are getting fresh heroin out of the toilet..
    • Rooster99, on 03/07/2008, -0/+24Pro Tip: Take that plastic that your cigarettes come in and use that. Then simply twist it so it's closed and melt the top of it shut! Problem solved, suck it Chicago!
      • thebaron2, on 03/07/2008, -0/+15They're already working on banning cigarettes - don't give them more reason.

        I feel like a friggin' criminal walking the streets with a cigarette in my mouth these days :/
      • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5Yeah... Chicago is big on prohibitions.... -_-
        • MattB123, on 03/12/2008, -0/+1It was so successful in the 20's. Why stop now?
    • davidlow, on 03/07/2008, -1/+52I guess I'll have to start doing more drugs so I'll have enough to put in the larger bags.
    • coldcarbon, on 03/07/2008, -4/+2just make your own bags. I would just buy the normal size bags because I couldn't find the small ones. Cut them up. Use a lighter to re-seal them. That way I could make custom size bags for what I was selling at that time. Although that was a life time ago :)
      • Dubbsacc, on 03/07/2008, -1/+5It's just not the same... :(
        • ChildeRoland420, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4He's right, they wouldn't be resealable then.
          • MattB123, on 03/12/2008, -0/+1Could be good for the seller. Maybe the consumer would then use it all up faster to prevent spoilage.
      • accelleron, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Oh please, any self-respecting dealer would just set up a PO box and order online.
    • Mitchl, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4Here is a video guide of where you can put your weed:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSM2rfeWD8

    • ulmedas, on 03/07/2008, -0/+18I put all of my physical computing components in those tine zippy bags, but I cannot find them in New York anymore. Even Canal Plastics stopped selling them because of pressure form the city. Now my tool box is in disarray. My IR led's are all mixed in with my super-bright led's. It's tragic, or at the very least a minor inconvenience.
      • shotgunefx, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6I hear you, it's retarded. I have a couple hundred because I had tons of components and parts everywhere. (electronics in particular).

        The only thing this will do is inconvenience people who need them for regular purposes, dealers will just use sandwich bags or foil.
      • satandumpling, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2Here's a suggestion: bead box. Clear plastic with a bunch of compartments and snap lid that keeps em all apart. And only 2 or 3 $
        I use a stack of these for jewelry, but there's nothing girly about the boxes themselves...
        http://www.michaels.com/art/online/displayProductP ...
        • shotgunefx, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3For small sets those work, but I have a bunch of those sliding draw bins on my walls (about 200 drawers together ) and I still don't have enough.

          Take something as simple as resistors, if you want to organize them with any granularity, that takes a ton, just by themselves. LEDs, transistors, PICs, ICs, voltage regulators. Even if you stuff em all in one draw, it's a good idea to separate them in baggies so you don't have to read tiny markings or decipher what's what in that draw of TO-220s. Nevermind screws and other hardware.

          Anyway, helpful suggestion, but it's still dumb of them to ban baggies because of what they might hold.
        • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1wow... I think you could put your weed in there.... and separate them too.
    • ConeOfSilence, on 03/07/2008, -0/+9they will just go back to doing like they did in the old days and wrap the weed in tin foil.
    • kehvin, on 03/07/2008, -0/+14I think they were high when they came up with this.
      • vornan19, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8Yes but those are prescription drugs. You know, the good kind!
    • Capand, on 03/07/2008, -1/+1Besides, bigger bags mean bigger stashes!
    • Lijiman, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Banning smaller bags leads to use of bigger bags, therefore more capacity for drugs in the bag. Isn't the the opposite of what they want?
      • gthyb, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Well they've already banned common sense.
      • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2It also means more/bigger garbage/litter. And a big concern was that these baggies were just lying around on the ground.... But now, it will be the bigger baggies, lying around in the streets of Chicago... XD
    • Randrayla, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Hmm sounds kind of like the idea that if we ban guns there wont be anymore.
      • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1HAHAHA knee jerk law. What do you expect from a politician, who was probably lobbied by a plastic bag corporation. or by religious zealots who can't think for themselves... which is why those fanatics have a religion to follow.

        P.S. I'm not referring to the intelligent kind of religious nuts, I'm just referring to those who thump the bible, and then ignore it when it really matters. (like shutting the ***** up.)
      • tony23, on 03/08/2008, -0/+3More like if we ban holsters we will make guns go away.
    • gthyb, on 03/07/2008, -1/+11If you outlaw self-sealing plastic bags under two inches in either height or width, only outlaws will have self-sealing plastic bags under two inches in either height or width.
    • saska, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4Seriously. How on earth would I separate my cardboard tokens from my tabletop games without these bags?
    • danarama, on 03/09/2008, -0/+1pot?
  • reflex768, on 03/07/2008, -0/+168>>>"...said the ordinance will be an 'important tool' to go after grocery stores, health food stores and other businesses."

    When it gets to the point where someone can seriously argue they need to "go after" grocery stores in order to stop drug sales, I think we can say it has gone too far.
    • magoghm, on 03/07/2008, -0/+13At least they are becoming more honest now. So, what are they trying to do? Help WalMart get rid of the competition?
    • monospaced, on 03/07/2008, -1/+6Those little baggies are sold in bulk at almost every stationery store, head shop, shady liquor store and arts n' crafts store on the planet. I've never seen them in food stores, though.
    • airburst, on 03/07/2008, -2/+9Governments only job seems to be expanding the bureaucracy. And they do that very well.
    • goomba323, on 03/07/2008, -4/+7And yet, conservative wacko's will see no problem with this, yet throw a hissy fit if they put a ban on incandescent light bulbs in favor of florescent light bulbs (which save more energy and are more economical)
      • blast_flame, on 03/07/2008, -0/+13Please stop arguing which violation of my liberty is better. They're both bad.
        • rficwizard, on 03/07/2008, -0/+10Right on. I am sick of this divide-and-conquer that the big government crowd does. We all need to stand consistently for ALL of our rights, and everyone else's rights. I don't own a gun, but I will stand up for your right to do so. I don't use marijuana (or alcohol or nicotine, for that matter) but I will stand up for your right to do so. I have never contributed more than $2300 to a politician's campaign, but I will stand up for your right to do so. Maybe when they ban something that I personally choose to do, you will stand up for me.
          • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2And I will.... Stand up for your rights to Burn the American Flag to save the country. (wait, that was Zoidberg)

            Either way, in all seriousness, I for once in my life, have just about had enough with all the ***** I see, that gets passed. Although I live in Texas, What happens in other states, CAN and COULD happen in my state. I keep hearing of laws created in one country, and then another country adopts a similar (if not identical) version of that law. The problem here is, The baby boomer's are starting to get old, they have already gotten a life worth of wealth, and are beginning to retire. While Social Security will most likely NOT be there when I retire, the Baby boomers now, are doing everything to get EVERYTHING out of the generation that is now growing up. We have politicians, religious figures, and Authority that are following rules and teachings that are back ASS backwards, to the generation today.

            Bill Crosby had this to say once "The Music my parents listened to, I hated, and they hated my music. The Music I listen to, my kids hate, and I hate their music as well..." (something along those lines).... You know what, it IS time for a change. It should be time to begin retiring all of our current government politicians to bring in a NEW generation of THINKERS, that understand that our current society is and should no longer be divided by this aging generation of law/decision makers.
      • thebaron2, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6FWIW, the idea has been getting thrashed on morning AM radio on every station I've heard. And 560 AM, which is the primary conservative channel, was really tearing the idea apart yesterday morning.

        I think EVERYONE (besides our local officials that are pushing this POS bill) sees the incredible stupidity behind it.
        • MikeFromAmerica, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2The local officials and their paper bag industry puppet masters...
  • monospaced, on 03/07/2008, -0/+28They called them Blue Dolphins because they were blue and had a little dolphin etched into each pill, not because of the baggy pattern artwork.
    This would never work, and what would everyone do who needed the baggies for legitimate purposes?
    • Proxenus, on 03/07/2008, -4/+0I agree. there are so many people I encounter every day who need tiny baggies. every time I have a get together, I spend half a day cleaning up tiny baggies. Maybe I need to find friends who aren't total wastes of skin.
      • jftitan, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2How about, not having get togethers? If they are your friends, then you are one hell of a ass hole. But you confinsate by cleaning up after them, so no matter what they say about you... your still an ***** to your friends by calling them wastes of skin. Infact I bet they don't even like you.
  • h0ser, on 03/07/2008, -2/+30coke and heroin is sold in flaps here. Tiny envelopes folded from normal everyday paper.
    marijauna has always been given to me in sandwich bags. They might be big but they'll never squish your buds. You can tie the buddha into the corner anyways if you wanna make it smaller.
    • GhostyBoy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+42BAN PAPER AND SANDWICH BAGS!

      HA! That will show them! War on Drugs 1, Drugs 0....Victory will soon be ours!
      • ThugThrasher, on 03/07/2008, -1/+2No, you miscounted there.
        War on Drugs 1, Drugs 20,000,000
    • bromac, on 03/07/2008, -12/+1Ziplocks, junior.

      Otherwise it'll dry out, and they're better at containing the smell too.
    • x252, on 03/07/2008, -23/+3Go back to your illegal pot smoking, hippy.
    • sweetman228, on 03/07/2008, -2/+8Glass jar is the best for keepin your chrons fresh, bromac.
    • effedup, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2I've always seen blow in flaps as well.
    • boombye, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1That's how it's done in Chicago too, which makes this ban even more stupid since it's outdated and the only people probably using those baggies these days are people with legitimate uses for them.
      • ZxEfR, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1That's the way they do it in the movies. It's just all part of the manipulation.
  • tehbored, on 03/07/2008, -1/+102FTA:
    '"We need to use every measure that we possibly can to stop it because it is destroying our kids," he said.'

    The Drug War is doing far more damage to kids than the drugs themselves. That money would be much better spent on education than on putting teenagers who have done nothing to anyone but themselves in jail.
  • thomoore, on 03/07/2008, -4/+33The war on drugs is lost. http://www.scragged.com/articles/a-modest-proposal ... discusses various aspects of legalization. The comments have references to a number of US government reports which RECOMMEND legalization. The reports were suppressed, of course, there's too much money to be made in putting people in jail.
    • TritonX, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Exactly, with your current economic crisis do you really think you could afford not to lock up honest citizens, their presence in jail is providing jobs for many guards and contractors, also where would you get your cheap labor from? Did they even planned on winning that "war on drug", mission accomplished anyone?
    • turkeyssr, on 03/07/2008, -8/+1You know, I could actually be FOR legalization EXCEPT the morons that take drugs and mess themselves up, will eventually come back and sue the government for legalizing them in the first place.
      • davewashere, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4Yeah, good luck suing the government. That usually works out well. I can't imagine some doped-up loser who can't afford a decent lawyer taking down the same people who MAKE the laws.
        • BoneheadFarker, on 03/07/2008, -1/+1"...can't afford a decent lawyer..."

          What? Are you saying that ambulance chasers wouldn't take on the case? Someone would do it...and they might even get lucky and win...
      • blast_flame, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4Simple. Add a 'the government is in no way responsible for any damage you do to yourself while doing drugs" clause in the law.
        • vornan19, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4the government is not even responsible for the damage they do cause!
      • bearsinthesea, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Like the alcoholics that clean up suing the govt.
        oh, wait.
    • thebaron2, on 03/07/2008, -2/+4Another ***** scragged SPAMMER. Bury the ***** out of anything you see coming from that site or anyone posting links to it. Just look at this douche's comment history:
      http://digg.com/users/thomoore

      Scragged, scragged, and more scragged in every comment. BURIED and REPORTED you piece of crap. And I'll be posting this under all your other spam messages. *****.
    • CrazedLeper, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3The "war on drugs" is not lost. It was never fought. You can never stop people from doing what they want. The US gov't learned that from the failed policy of prohibition in the 1930s. The "war on drugs" was a sham and a pretext. A war on people is what they fought and in that respect, it has been a resounding success.
  • h4ckler, on 03/07/2008, -2/+69This is completely ***** retarded. Are our elected officials on drugs?!
    • lickmylovepump, on 03/07/2008, -1/+21You might be surprised.
    • GhostyBoy, on 03/07/2008, -1/+12Our elected officials are owned by drug cartels, in many cases. I wouldn't put using drugs past them either.
    • stoker1967, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Our elected officials hard at work! This is comparable to not drinking water that people ***** in upstream.
    • h4mx0r, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4They're trying to eliminate the competition!
  • bobster00001, on 03/07/2008, -22/+2ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SEll the crack and heroin on the street to the public, and get there I.D. and stuff and arrest them later. TADA! ORRRRRRR let the poeple do the crack and heroin! so they get a addicted and die, thus they remove them selves from the gene pool. so we have less people having the addictive or stupidity gene. !! two great ideas
    • Godlike, on 03/07/2008, -0/+11It must be so nice to be so ***** stupid.
    • Xondar, on 03/07/2008, -0/+11ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sterilize people like you so we can properly clean the gene pool of complete stupidity.
    • hulez, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3it's not possible to remove dumb people from the gene pool. The apparantly smartest man on earth had parents who beat him up and he is supposed to be smarter than steven hawkin. People who beat their own son up display poor intellegence and if it's true he is indeed the smartest man on earth because he got one of the highest ever scores in an IQ test then his retarted parents would prove genetics has nothing to do with intellegence or emotional behavior. im drunk as a write this but that does not distort my understanding of this *****!!!
      • Godlike, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2Ok not that you are 'wrong' but; think about what you are saying?

        1) People who beat up their son have low IQ's. No exceptions.
        2) (facepalm) *Stephen Hawking
        3) yes it does. It does dude.
  • cyberfreak77, on 03/07/2008, -1/+41Awesome! You guys have some really smart deciders over there in the u.s.! Thats a great solution for getting the next 1% of your people jailed. And i am pretty sure there will be also a possibility for the cops to tazer these plastic bag gangsters a bit before arresting them. Or just hit them on their heads with a big stick. Life must be hilarious over there!
    • obliviousfool, on 03/07/2008, -0/+24When your society has a prison industry, and the prison industry has lobbyists, you know your society has pretty much jumped the shark.
    • C0MF0RTABLYnumb, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4Ohh yea there is going to be a lot o tasering too!
  • VIrus9, on 03/07/2008, -0/+48So when are they going to ban balloons? Cellophane from cigarette packs? Film canisters?
    • obliviousfool, on 03/07/2008, -3/+6Film? Wasn't that stuff popular in the 20th century?
    • roho76, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8You seem to have a good grasp on the "things you can put drugs in" area.
      • vuke69, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6That should be a Jeopardy category.

        I'll take "Things you can put drugs in" for $200 Alex.
        • dracostimpy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5A: For $1000, you can put plenty of drugs in this 200-lb vessel.

          Q: What is dracostimpy?
    • hulez, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3soon.......................................................................................soon my friend, sooooon!
    • davewashere, on 03/07/2008, -0/+9I've heard that thumbs and fingers play an important role in drug consumption. Perhaps if we just outlawed those...
    • havokdu, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Don't forget Tic Tac cases
      • TreatsTheBear, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2They better not ***** with my Tic Tacs.
  • GhostyBoy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+196As a crack addict I have to admit that when I get my fix I am very interested in the little bag it comes in.

    If those baggies were eliminated I would most likely cease to be addicted and would probably no longer seek to purchase crack.
    • Dested, on 03/08/2008, -0/+2This comment is dripping with sarcasm so much I actually got some on my shoes.
  • moste, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8plastic bags are really bad. i think they try using drugs to take over the world! those bad bags!!
    • CedEx, on 03/07/2008, -0/+0Maybe they'll make paper bags.. you know... more environmental.
      Hell, I can see you bring your own bags. I can sense a marketing opportunity here in the making.
  • thechr0nic, on 03/07/2008, -0/+39The war on drugs has been a dismal failure, anyone not realizing it by this point, is blind, or profiting from it.
    • FlagrantDrugUse, on 03/07/2008, -2/+8are you implying Ray Charles thought the drug war was successful?
      • thechr0nic, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8if memory serves, Ray Charles was a heroin addict.
        ... but yeah, maybe I should have been more specific, lets see if I can successfully rephrase:
        blind to what is happening, as in figuratively blind.
  • frogman54, on 03/07/2008, -0/+22Future prediction for next week's headline... "New Strategy in War on Drugs: Ban the Sale of Twist Ties" Drug dealers will finally be thwarted and decide to grow prize winning azaleas instead. I'm glad they are ending the war on drugs, but I'm still unsure how I'm going to keep my Fig Newtons fresh. If only they made a slightly bigger bag...maybe with some sort of zipper-like sealing mechanism.
  • 1337Einstein, on 03/07/2008, -3/+78Next up: The ban on the US dollar to stem cocaine use.
    • roho76, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5***** sweet. Who knew the Federal Reserve and the DEA where working together to fight drugs.
    • vuke69, on 03/07/2008, -1/+3Hey, that's a good idea. All currency as coins.

      I bet you've never seen someone snort a line with a looine, now have you?
      • munkyxtc, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1I guess you could use that as a scoop then...

        besides; necessity is the mother of invention; if someone needs a better medium to transport small quantities of product I have no doubt that before the ink dries on this legislation that there will be.
  • danmat06, on 03/07/2008, -4/+24It'll just boost condom sales.
    • thatfunman, on 03/07/2008, -2/+1hahahahahahahaahhahaahah lawlz I knew there was an alternative! those dumbasses
    • mcla0181, on 03/07/2008, -0/+0i'm sure lots of drugs get transported this way anyway... in various backdoor locations.... lol

      brings a new meaning to the phrase, "*****, the condom broke"
    • Firehed, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3Well banning condoms is a two-fer for them, since it promotes their abstinence-only plan as well.
    • goomba323, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1That's gross. I'd never buy my drugs if it came in a condom.
  • bromac, on 03/07/2008, -2/+8What the hell am I to keep my loose screws in? Other than my skull, that is.
  • unravelled, on 03/07/2008, -1/+32In other news, holsters were banned to cut down on pistol packing!
    • mrsachmo, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4This would lead to a rise in people shooting off their junk, tho.
      Pistol in waistband + fear = splattered lovetackle
      • unravelled, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3exactly what they want man, pistol packing population control, pay attention to the hidden agenda
    • maz2331, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Or... just make sure the safety is engaged? And never, ever, ever carry a Glock with a chambered cartridge w/o a proper holster.
  • dasbush, on 03/07/2008, -26/+1Uhm, has anyone ever really seen a legitimate (IE, not drug related) use for the little baggies? While it's true one could move to sandwich bags, this doesn't seem like a bad idea to make the dealer's life more difficult.

    Probably not the best solution, but it's something that seems obvious. Sort of like selling high quality scales at Staples, just seems obvious.
    • bromac, on 03/07/2008, -1/+24You do realize that companies weigh mail to know how much it'll cost, along with anything else that is sold in weight? And little baggies are used to hold beads, screws, and anything else that's small and loose (like your mom). You don't have much of an imagination, do you?
      • jankind, on 03/07/2008, -5/+2I live in a neighborhood that is overrun with drug activity. I have to pick up those little baggies out of my front yard and off my sidewalk all the time. And I can tell you that they aren't from all the necklace makers and bead collectors in the hood.
        • bromac, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6I have tons of little baggies from various electronic components I've collected over the years.

          I have no need to dispose of them on the street...because I have nothing to hide. Maybe if you didn't make it a black market, people wouldn't litter with their bags. Littering really is the least of their concerns if they get caught.
      • yergi, on 03/08/2008, -0/+1...and if you banned the little plastic bags in your city, do you really think it would get rid of the trash in your yard? I would interject to say that the drug users wouldn't stop using drugs. The littering will just change from bags smaller than 2 inches to bags larger than 2 inches.
    • jamespa66, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5Get your head out of your ass I think your suffering from oxygen deprivation....
    • rharris, on 03/07/2008, -0/+11Yes. My wife makes beaded jewelry. When she buys beads, they usually come in a small zip lock bags. If she had to put one or two small glass beads in a sandwich bag, then she'd have 10x more bags than beads.
    • jamespa66, on 03/07/2008, -3/+1My comment was aimed at dasbush....
    • Lukesed, on 03/07/2008, -0/+3I don't think the guy who invented scales was a crackhead, clearly he had some other purpose in mind.
    • treed, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7Storing small-scale hardware and such. Screws, nuts, bolts, washers, etc. Oh, also electronic components like capacitors and resistors...
    • samssf, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7Yeah, real smart jackass. What about things like hydroponics? Grow lights? I'm going to stop by my hydroponics store today to get a grow light. I'm building a hydroponics garden so I can grow some spinach. And I don't smoke weed. But I guess I should do it discretely cause I might have cops knocking down my door to bust me for growing weed.

      Trust me, there are always legitimate uses. Do you ***** think that those bags were designed just for weed dealers??
    • rblancarte, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7IMHO, this is the worst argument.
      First - there are a lot of legitimate uses.
      But more importantly - this is just your typical case of treating everyone like a criminal to try to inconvenience the real criminals. But it does NOTHING to address the real issue. First off, they real criminals - they won't care, they will just move on to something else. They will find a way to move their products regardless. No small plastic bags? Fine, they move to paper, or larger plastic bags or make the small ones on their own.
      But seriously, what does this do? Does it get drugs off the streets? No. Does it help educate the youth not to do drugs? No. Does it help people with addictions get cleaned up? No.
      IMHO, this is nothing more than a speed bump in a parking lot - annoying for all, and doesn't stop anyone.
    • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2Christ... It's not hard to find legitimate uses for those baggies... Go to the freaking store, and look in the hardware section, or any place that sells small parts... They ALWAYS come packaged in these types of baggies, nearly thousands of different products... because it was the easiest, cheapest, safest, and most costumer friendly form of packaging, for small items.
  • Look4Truth, on 03/07/2008, -1/+9Oh good one. I wonder who the brainiac is behind this gem.
    • Jowsley, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2With a name like Look4Truth I'm surprised you couldn't be bothered to read the article. There's no need to wonder, the person's name is right there in the second paragraph.
  • goodkidyo, on 03/07/2008, -0/+15Index fingers are also to be removed at birth in the hopes of drastically reducing gun violence.
    • RonBurgundy76, on 03/07/2008, -1/+3Roland didn't need all of his fingers to be a badass.
      • sw33tsarin, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Don't know why you're gettin dug down, I thought it was funny.
      • ChildeRoland420, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Damn straight I don't.
    • bbqsalad, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1and nose picking..
  • algo, on 03/07/2008, -0/+8won't people just use bigger bags...
    • DanBoodro, on 03/07/2008, -2/+1Yea, only making the drug economy greater than what it is today. Which could ultimately lead people to smoke themselves retarded. Which could cause an unseen drug economic depression. Which then would enforce anti-drugism amongst the druggies. Damn they're smart.
    • potisreallygood, on 03/11/2008, -0/+1and more drugs to make use of the larger bag! YAY!
  • mdm05e, on 03/07/2008, -2/+60We should start smoking joints using pages of the Bible and maybe they will try and get rid of that too...
  • Cheesecrunch, on 03/07/2008, -15/+5DIGG ME DOWN BECAUSE I LIKE SANDWHICHES
    • roho76, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2***** sandwiches. Loser.
    • lilwil, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1How about I digg you down because you spelled sandwiches wrong.
    • geekanarchy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Spy's sappin' my sandwich!
  • Bonz0, on 03/07/2008, -0/+24Are they going to ban lighters as well?
    • RonBurgundy76, on 03/07/2008, -1/+15They'll get to it eventually.
    • TritonX, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2No, they will do better, they will ban heat. Thus making us all criminals and they'll be able to decide who goes in and who stays out ;P
    • samssf, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Cigarette companies have the money to make sure that doesn't happen.
      • ShugNinx21, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1The same cigarette companys that have been beaten down and now have to pay for media that condems their product?
    • NikoKun, on 03/07/2008, -2/+2They'll ban lighters, once they ban cigarettes... And if this is Chicago we're talking about, it wont be long before they DO ban cigs... -_-
      Chicago seems to just looove prohibitions on things... -_-
  • therealrico, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7Right because there isn't any other container capable of holding these illegal substances. . . such as a pill container OOPS!!! I have an idea, they are going to do the drugs anyways why not just make it legal and we can focus on money and resources on something more important like pedophiles!
    • jamespa66, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Actually thats a great idea going after the pedophiles considering most are probably the politicians thinking up these stupid laws. We win twice with this war!
    • malonesm, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7Bad Idea: If they start focusing their attention on pedos they will inevitably ban children.
  • racco, on 03/07/2008, -3/+2wow. some people really know how to waist time and money on stupid ideas that only serve to annoy people.

    one word: tinfoil
  • georgelulu, on 03/07/2008, -1/+7I remember the day when we could look up into the sky and see the clouds in Chicago, but then came the ban of daylight, streetlight, and other forms of illumination. It was just too dangerous allowing these drug dealers the ability to see our kids.
  • govsucks, on 03/07/2008, -2/+24Government once again showing its ability to understand and effectively resolve the issue. Please take care of my health government. /sarcasm
  • drmangrum, on 03/07/2008, -0/+11Do they honestly think dealers are stupid? They'll buy bigger plastic bags. Retarded law.
    • ShugNinx21, on 03/07/2008, -1/+1yeah, but that will cost them a few extra cents per bag and soon they will go broke.
  • Bonz0, on 03/07/2008, -0/+12Ive bought weed wrapped up in a cheese burger wrapper wtf is banning little bags going to do lol
    • WoollyMittens, on 03/07/2008, -0/+4I bet using it, made your crave a quarterpounder.
  • wickedlogic, on 03/07/2008, -5/+10If you ban plastic baggies, only criminals will have plastic baggies. Sounds silly doesn't it? Then why on earth do people say it about firearms.... there is a fallacy in the logic that making something illegal or banning it alone is an effective mechanism. Perhaps we need to offer our youth a better life instead.
    • samssf, on 03/07/2008, -0/+7What astonishes me is that someone actual thinks this is a feasible idea. It really shows how uneducated and moronic our leaders are. I mean *****, as you say, it's a commonly known psychological principle that when you make something hard to obtain or hard to accomplish, that this causes challenge. And the people who desire to overcome it will do so... challenge causes an increase in desire.

      The result? Most people who don't wish to go against the law will just find another solution. But they are unfairly affected. The people who were originally using the bags to break the law will just find another way to get the bags, or one of the criminals will devise a better solution altogether. Get a clue, America. I'm guessing 75% of the decisions our leaders make to solve problems just makes the problems worse.
    • BigLLamasHouse, on 03/07/2008, -0/+5while i agree that the plastic bag ban is utterly ridiculous, your parralel between that and the 2nd amendment doesn't really apply. there are many things to substitute for a plastic bags, but not so many to substitute for a pistol if you need one. and if you live in Chicago, Detroit, or New Orleans... you need one.
    • sqwirl, on 03/07/2008, -1/+0Your name doesn't suit you, because your logic completely fails.

      The only way your logic would work is if little baggies had to be registered. NEWSFLASH: They don't. Therefore, if baggies are outlawed, everyone may still have baggies (the ones they already posess), whereas if guns are outlawed, only those who have legally registered them would be forced to give them up - thus, criminals would be the only ones left with guns.

      You fail.
      • MajorApus, on 03/07/2008, -0/+0Thats completely not his point. You fail sqwirl.

        The point is simple, outlawing something doesn't make criminals stop using them. Think about it, they were already selling drugs, do you think they care if the bag their cocaine is in is illegal also? No, they dont care, they will use them anyways. But what about all the people that weren't criminals before this law. They either have to stop using the bags for legitimate reasons, or become criminals. Thats the point, it doesn't stop the crime, it only redefines what crime is.
  • pershingdriver, on 03/07/2008, -1/+9Hey Chicago there is this thing you may have heard of called the Internet and e-commerce. So the only thing you are going to do is reduce your local sales tax revenue - morons.
  • jcastillo81, on 03/07/2008, -1/+12This is great! How will the drug dealers possibly transport their drugs now!? While we're at it lets ban scales, exacto blades, lighters, spoons, rubber tubing, beakers, syringes, etc, etc, and on and on ad infinity

    RECOCKULOUS!
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2In the late 80s, Pencil Torches were all over the place for sale in upstate NY... Then people claimed they were only for drug use. I haven't seen one for sale in a store until just recently. I bought a couple.
  • spyd3rweb, on 03/07/2008, -0/+18Opening up a internet shop for small plastic bags in 3.. 2.. 1.. Thanks government!
  • voodoochild461, on 03/07/2008, -4/+1NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    Those dope smokers will just have to deal with sandwich bags now.
    R.I.P little red/green dimes
  • BECoole, on 03/07/2008, -6/+13But..but.. Chicago is run by Obama's friends and Democrats. How can this be?
    • reaper527, on 03/07/2008, -1/+3perhaps he isn't going to bring the "change" everyone thinks he is?
    • DesertTripper, on 03/07/2008, -3/+2Yeah, the Republicans would never enact any stupid drug laws. Remember, they are the party of smaller government, less spending, more personal liberty, etc. So, elect Republicans to end the drug war.

      (Yeah, right)
  • Dmurphyman, on 03/07/2008, -1/+4Because im sure people who deal BANNED substances are going to stop after banning tiny bags to keep the banned drugs in. Yay logic.
  • IphtashuFitz, on 03/07/2008, -0/+10This has go to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of as far as fighting illegal drugs goes. If I was a drug dealer I'd simply start buying larger sized plastic bags and cut them up. May not look quite as nice, but I seriously doubt any drug users would really care. When I was in college I also saw drug dealers that would just use notebook paper folded up in a rather creative way to hold cocaine. I have a feeling the dealers will find a number of fairly easy and creative ways to outwit these stupid lawmakers.
  • geniuslocimusic, on 03/07/2008, -1/+42This strategy has worked before and it will work again. Remember how all the bank hold-ups stopped after they banned the sale of large bags with "$" on them?
  • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/07/2008, -1/+18Oh no! I bought a new hard drive and it had a little baggie full of screws! I'm a drug runner now!
    • faskippy, on 03/07/2008, -0/+6Remember the guy who got 10 years for selling grow lights? Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. LOL!
      • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I'm not too sympathetic to the "make everything legal" crowd, but I can be sympathetic to people who want to grow their own pot. Hell, I'd rather them grow their own than buy from Mexican drug cartels any day. I think that guy got a really bum deal on 10 years for selling grow lights. Especially since he went out of his way to NOT allow any questions about pot, no High Times magazines, etc to be in his store. That is a travesty.

        Now, I'm against hard core drugs such as coke and heroin, but laws like these are stupid. The *****'s already illegal, don't make NEW laws, enforce the current ones.
  • xyu1, on 03/07/2008, -3/+3good old tin foil, eh?
  • stgabriel, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Strongly reminds me of this satire - http://www.brainsnap.com/business/stoners_rattled_ ...
    • bizarrorollins, on 03/07/2008, -0/+1Well I was really hoping that the main article was satire

      *sigh*
  • fleury29, on 03/07/2008, -1/+17Step 1: Ban Plastic Bags
    Step 2:
    Step 3: End War on Drugs
    Seems logical
    /sarcasm
  • Shoebox639, on 03/07/2008, -3/+5yea... wouldn't banning, syringes, bongs, razor blades, pipes, rolling paper, and lighters be more detrimental to drug prevention? Or serious education for the kids who are about to start using? cmon old people, THINK!
    • mxmj, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2Because there are no legitimate uses for syringes razor blades or lighters...
    • khemicalwar, on 03/07/2008, -0/+2or bongs, rolling papers, and pipes
  • echo2501, on 03/07/2008, -1/+9Unlubricated condom purchases suddenly on the rise.
  • purvisxiii, on 03/07/2008, -0/+14My Saran Wrap. Let me show you it.
  • mcla0181, on 03/07/2008, -3/+6what, are we *****'n stupid?
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