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- blindhammer, on 03/18/2008, -5/+59DNA database? Why stop there! I mean, let's just stamp barcodes on their foreheads.
- crazyman, on 03/18/2008, -2/+40I wish Orwell was alive so he could say: "called it."
- syroncoda, on 03/18/2008, -1/+29ok whats scarier: your 5 year old who had a temper tantrum on the first day of school because he missed his parents but the school deemed that to be a just cause to put your child's DNA on a government watch list
OR
somebody getting pissed off at that government and blows up the building that holds that information
figure THAT one out. - inactive, on 03/18/2008, -4/+16Gattica anyone? Minority Report?
Old story or not, these unchecked reaches into our privacy need to stop, and one way of helping accomplish that is getting the word out to as many people as possible. - mahler, on 03/18/2008, -2/+14- Check for hereditary diseases
* High change of getting a handicapped baby, thus restricting you from having kids
* High risk on being an agressive person, thus restricting places where you are allowed to work, not allowed to have kids or own a gun.
* High risk of depressions, not allowed to have kids or own a gun... or work at the empire state building.
- Check for any other weaknesses
- Indeed make clones
- Calculate penis-size and laugh at you
If your DNA is accessable for the people in power, at some point in time they WILL use it against you. - Po0py, on 03/18/2008, -3/+15Reminds me of Minority Report. They catch the criminals before they commit a crime. I think personal privacy is fast becoming one of the most important issues of our time. Depressing stuff.
- surKaz, on 03/18/2008, -2/+13"sword fighting AND power rangers"..... That five year old should be in Maximum Security!
- CrazedLeper, on 03/18/2008, -1/+12Bar codes aren't nearly as useful (or harmful) as RFID chips.
- chenn, on 03/18/2008, -3/+13In the Netherlands i assume 90% of the parents give a blood sample of their baby to the state which test it AND put it in a database. There is very little discussion about it, odd?
- Spuds2600, on 03/18/2008, -5/+14I thought it was only OUR country that had lost it's *****' mind.
Guess not. - SwampyUK, on 03/18/2008, -1/+10"I think personal privacy is fast becoming one of the most ignored issues of our time."
Fixed that for you. Unfortunately noone seems to care in the UK because too many of us think only people who've done something wrong have something to fear. - signal15, on 03/18/2008, -2/+10Don't forget the puppies. Many of them are very naughty when you leave them home alone. Idle paws are the devil's playground. Did you know that many puppies have lineage that goes back to the middle east?
- directive0, on 03/18/2008, -3/+10Were you fingerprinted at 5 years of age?
- inactive, on 03/18/2008, -1/+8"He told the Observer newspaper: "If we have a primary means of identifying people before they offend, then in the long term, the benefits of targeting young people are extremely large. You could argue the younger the better."
He added: "Criminologists say some people will grow out of crime, others won't. We have to find out who are possibly going to be the biggest threats to society." Labour has long accepted the idea that children's lives go wrong very early."
These are direct quotes from the article. Did I miss something? - inactive, on 03/18/2008, -2/+8No it's not harmful. Until someone in power decides to use it for the wrong reasons. Say, to round up and then eliminate all people who are not blue-eyed and blonde-haired. Of course we don't live in a world where anyone would do that, right? Not like that's ever happened before.
/SARCASM - fahrvergnuugen, on 03/18/2008, -2/+8You don't get fingerprinted until AFTER you break the law.
- Llanowar, on 03/18/2008, -2/+8I don't really care about dupes. But didn't I see this front page yesterday?
- inactive, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6Thats only in England and Wales. In Scotland it gets destroyed if you aren't charged.
- tomz17, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6Your DNA is a LOT of information about you. Someone will abuse the information at some point.
- WilliamDavis, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6I think we should just jail all of you. You're all potential criminals. Why should we wait until something happens to address that problem?
- PresidentSoup, on 03/18/2008, -1/+6I remember being fingerprinted in kindergarten in the US.
- CrazedLeper, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6Sounds like a good idea until it's you--or your kid.
- Zzone, on 03/18/2008, -0/+4"Let's keep our tax paying citizens safe." wow what a ***** up world!
- Coffeedemon, on 03/18/2008, -1/+5I and a lot of Canadian kids were fingerprinted back in the early 80s (I was around 10 or younger) as part of a missing child prevention thing (that probably also netted the authorities some data for a project like this DNA bank as well). No big deal they're probably on record somewhere and I'm not too worried.
- deathsquadx, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength - iamclassic, on 03/18/2008, -3/+7There was a television segment on this once on Discovery Channel or something where they said they could pick out patterns in a murderer's brain. Is this the start of picking and choosing who is or isn't dangerous?...
What a ***** up world we've come to live in. - eosp, on 03/18/2008, -2/+6All in all we're just
another brick in the wall - inactive, on 03/18/2008, -1/+5This is pure Evil!
I am so glad I grew up when I did, because I definitely would've been in that database.
I am so glad they don't have my DNA.
That would be putting quite a damper on my current criminal enterprises and my rape club. - katermurr, on 03/18/2008, -1/+5Not here in the UK, where if you're arrested your fingerprints and DNA sample will be taken if you're called or taken to the police station under suspicion of a crime. This is the case even if you're later proved innocent.
- robbiemuffin, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3there are places in the USA where this is common, voluntary, practice. there were fingerprint drives in my youth, I remember being taken out of class with all my classmates to go and have our fingerprints taken. there was a line with hundreds of kids. I've always been a little surprised to read the "we should have it" comment from people, as if a national fingerprint database doesn't exist. :)
- norman619, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3dandonia:
Here can agree. - BobsYourUncle, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4You don't need to be on any particular political side to disagree with this concept. An insurance company gets a hold of your DNA sample, determines that you at risk for cancer, and cancels your insurance (or imposes unaffordable premiums). Numerous examples exist of police corruption/incompetence. To assume that on this _one_ issue they will be trustworthy and reliable is absurd.
- BobsYourUncle, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3I was taught not to talk to strangers.
- soundofsettling, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3This sounds very much like the delinquent class Michel Foucault talks about in Discipline and Punish. So we're defining criminals now by how someone dresses and acts when they're 5 years old? These kids are indebted to society before they're even conscious of who they are in society. Very scary indeed.
- robbiemuffin, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3the start, huh? You've not been ... on this planet any time in the past century, have you?
- Ryosen, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4This is a great idea! Just imagine how much more efficient governments (both current and newly "appointed") could be at genocide and ethnic cleansing with this information. No more rounding up of innocents! Why, just think of the possible improvements to society that could be achieved when we can filter out that 10% of the population that has a genetic disposition to homosexuality, asthma, or voting Democrat. Hell, just the financial savings to the health insurance industry alone, as they filter out "risky" applicants, is enough to justify mandatory DNA tracking. And let's not forget the time savings on parental responsibility, as we relieve ourselves of the burden of actual raising our children who might be considered a challenge at the most-burdensome age of five. This sure beats the hell out of Ritalin!
It's a brave new world, people. Rejoice! - boxybrzown, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Their complaints are valid because most people on Digg secretly want to be criminals in the future. Or Batman.
- podobuzz, on 03/18/2008, -2/+5The first rule of rape club is you do not talk about rape club.
- tomz17, on 03/18/2008, -2/+5It would also be easier to solve crimes if we put cameras in everyone's home... implanted little rfid chips that recorded your whereabouts... etc. etc. slippery slope much?
There ARE downsides to a massive DNA database, and it WILL be abused by authorities at some point (not IF, but WHEN). See other posts. - Harelin, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4One thing leads to another... More often than not, it is because of a failure to grasp this concept that people support what you support. It is simply one more step in the direction of an Orwellian society.
- manzoire, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3only one word describes this.......disgusting. how the hell do you define naughty children? im sorry, but being a rebel is a GOOD thing. QUESTIONING things is a GOOD thing.
- inactive, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4HEYLO BIG BROTHER
- CrazedLeper, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3The US has more prisoners per capita than any other nation. They well know that the threat of punishment is not a deterrent to crime. Everyone who commits a crime plans to get away with it. The purpose of the DNA database is to help the 4th Reich eliminate the undermenschen.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/reich - inactive, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3Incorrect. The book was written by Philip K. Dick, who "explored sociological and political themes in novels dominated by monopolistic corporations and authoritarian governments." Dick was not a scientologist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick - timspin, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4Another issue is the security of that data, the British govenment have shown themselves to be incompetent fools when it comes to data security. How about someone grabs that data and sells it to an insurance company, next thing you know eveyone in the country with a predisposition to cancer loses life insurance. Could happen.
- rficwizard, on 03/18/2008, -1/+4Is that the high tech version of numbers tattooed on their arms?
- mgnesium, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Say you find a missing body in a bog, and can only tell that it was a Caucasian male. Identification by relation would require DNA typing (a lengthy process, it's not the 5 minutes shown in CSI) of everyone in the area who's filed a missing person's report for someone who matches those criteria. It would still miss people whose families don't know they were missing (out of touch), someone who has no living relatives to be typed (since your spouse doesn't share your DNA), or people who died far, far away from their home (where the missing persons report was issued).
A national DNA database is perhaps the best victim ID measure you will ever have. - m4lomb, on 03/18/2008, -1/+3Repugnant. If we have a biological propensity to a life of crime, then we don't really have a choice do we? We are losing our freedoms fast. We must do something about it.
- bjornski, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2And our communications shouldn't be tapped without a warrant, either.
But it's happening. - katorga, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2The British bureaucracy has already taken over. They monitor every move outside the house. They can control life or death through rationing of healthcare based on lifestyle (fat, smoker, old, non-taxpayer, etc). They log and monitor every email and electronic communication (and retain that data 6 months per EU Data Retention Directives). The EU is already a corporatist dictatorship. It only remains to be seen if it will stay benevolent or become malevolent.
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