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- MacEnvy, on 12/17/2008, -23/+262If you don't have an income, you can't pass the credit check. It's not Vodaphone's fault - this lady doesn't have a damn income. Of course they can't give her a phone, but could give her husband one (because he presumably has a job).
When applying for credit (as in a phone contract), "homemaker" is not a valid occupation. I'm sorry, but it doesn't have a salary associated with it.
I'm surprised this isn't from the Daily Fail considering the amount of undeserved faux-outrage it displays. - breadfred, on 12/16/2008, -11/+189Before you all jump on this, this might have to do with the contract instead of the phone. Many companies require you to have a regular income for a monthly payment plan. This is for a good reason. People with jobs usually are in a better position to pay.
- captainbethany, on 12/17/2008, -24/+155Buried. If a male teenager with no credit but money to spend from mom & dad tried to buy a phone, they'd get the same schpeal. No credit: no phone. Absolutely not sexist. I'm surprised this is an actual article.
Correction: it's not an actual article. It's retarded smut. - techmint, on 12/16/2008, -38/+162Free market = Right to refuse service to anyone. Even if it's not polite.
- badqat, on 12/16/2008, -13/+116She ought to thank them because the Storm sucks. Well, after she reams them a bit.
- BradOFarrell, on 12/17/2008, -12/+102"For anyone to suggest that being a mum isn't a real job is just ridiculous."
You don't get paid, it's NOT a real job. They can't count on you being able to pay your bill if you don't have any income. Have your husband co-sign like they asked, since he does get paid. - jthei, on 12/17/2008, -3/+90Woman couldn't get cell phones in the fifties either.
- michaelpinto, on 12/16/2008, -36/+119What jerks: "Vodafone spokesman Greg Spears yesterday confirmed the no-housewives rule and said getting a man to buy the phone instead was the quickest fix."
- black27696, on 12/17/2008, -14/+83Yeah this isn't about "motherhood is a full time job lets all scream and hold signs" it's about the credit companies knowing NOTHING about you. Also, why does Vodafone know that you're going to pay your bill? Because you're a good person? They don't want to get screwed over, they need someone who can show they have money rolling in. Sorry that she was embarrassed, but it's entirely the right move. If a 22 year old guy walked in there and told him he didn't have a job they wouldn't give him a phone either.
- mrspennyapple, on 05/25/2009, -13/+65"It's like a return to the 50s, she says"
Err, didn't a lot of women stay home and raise kids in the 50s? - jehan60188, on 12/17/2008, -3/+51nobody could
times were tough back then - SteveLRowe, on 12/16/2008, -8/+53Dugg for typed accent :)
- magic6435, on 12/17/2008, -10/+54Just because you think its hard for you to raise your kids does not make it a ***** job. Who hired you? What do you get paid? What is your resident status? Raising kids is a obligation and a responsibility not a job.
- jthei, on 12/17/2008, -1/+44likewise, raising telephones is a hell of a lot harder job than selling kids, believe you me
- RAGEdemon, on 12/17/2008, -10/+53Quite so. Common ***** sense. Can't believe this ***** got to FP. Sensationalism at it's best.
- lemur, on 12/17/2008, -25/+65Business Tip of the Day: "Don't refuse sales to customers who have money and want to spend it."
- MacEnvy, on 12/17/2008, -13/+52Well that's the problem then, isn't it? She doesn't have a paying job and thus they can't be assured that she can pay for her phone contract. I think they did the right thing, despite perhaps being a bit brusque about it.
- inactive, on 12/17/2008, -23/+57You strike me as the type who's still pissed they can't have a "No ***** Allowed" sign in your store window.
- icianom, on 12/17/2008, -27/+58There's probably already a phone in the kitchen, where being a woman she should be AT ALL TIMES.
- omoshiroi, on 12/17/2008, -15/+44There is a distinction for discriminatory practices.
- inactive, on 12/17/2008, -13/+42australia has cell phones?
- jnorris441, on 12/17/2008, -4/+31the truth hurts
- Gravey9, on 12/17/2008, -5/+30It's a job in the sense that it entails work but it's not a job in the sense of a career. If you don't get paid to do what you do than it's not a job it's a chore.
- pradvan, on 12/17/2008, -8/+32She should be happy she's allowed to vote!
/runs away - inactive, on 12/17/2008, -2/+24Tmobile refused to sell me a plan because I didn't have a credit card. Since then I got 2 credit cards, I rarely use them, my credit score is fantastically high and I have been saving tons of money using prepaid and making few calls.
Best thing they could have done is to refuse me service. They would have gotten tons of money from me. I saved that money instead. Thank you Tmobile! ***** you and your stupid phones! :) - danwallace, on 12/17/2008, -7/+28But... she DOESN'T have a real job.
- awinters, on 12/17/2008, -16/+36Raising kids is hell of a lot harder job than selling telephones.
- geoken, on 12/17/2008, -3/+23You're completely missing the point.
Selling phones provides an income that can be used to pay your phone bill. Raising your children does not. - PecanHead, on 12/17/2008, -1/+21Being a stay-at-home mom is definitely a lot of work, but does it pay the bills? That's the reason behind Vodaphone's policy.
- absurdist, on 12/17/2008, -9/+28@Ouchimoo:
Stealing her husband's money? WTF kind of idiotic comment is that? In a marriage all assets are joint assets. - enclaved, on 12/17/2008, -0/+19Not if you raise your kids into a cockney gang of pickpockets.
- inactive, on 12/17/2008, -2/+19Having no ***** job doesnt fall under a protected area, hence its ok to discriminate because of it.
- LordScarab, on 12/17/2008, -1/+17Please its not sexist to require a constant income for a phone plan. Sure a full time mum has alot of work to do BUT it is not a paying job.
If Banks let people without jobs get bank loans the financial crisis would be 100x worse why should a phone provider be any different, its responsible buisnese on their part - demodawid, on 12/17/2008, -1/+16That's what she gets for not staying in the kitchen!
- atb12688, on 12/17/2008, -0/+14Nah, just sensational journalism.
- Jough, on 12/17/2008, -2/+16I love the Beach Boys!
- Rikkochet, on 12/17/2008, -1/+15No kidding. If you file a tax return and your income for the year was "hugs and love", I don't think most credit reporting agencies have software to convert that to useful figures.
Being a parent is NOT a job. Calling it that is just squabbling over semantics brought on by the feminist movement. It's a responsibility and a labour, but it ain't a job.
Disagree? Throw it in the employment history section of your resume and see how many employers are impressed. - Layne, on 12/17/2008, -2/+16"Being a mum is a full-time job and it's a very hard job - the hardest job you can have - because if you get it wrong, the ramifications for everyone are enormous,"
Not even close to the hardest job you can have. - austin987, on 12/17/2008, -4/+18How is being a mom a job if she doesn't get paid?
Not saying it's not hard work, but it's not a job. She is a credit risk, and the company has a right to refuse her, plain and simple. - rlvis, on 12/17/2008, -14/+28According to that fat, stupid, useless, piece of ***** Oprah, being a stay at home mom is worth $130K a year.
- jehan60188, on 12/17/2008, -5/+19yah, damn those people that care about their families!
- gospe1337, on 12/17/2008, -11/+24She doesn't have an income. STFU digg.
- GezusK, on 12/17/2008, -4/+16Its good business sense to not "sell" to people who may not be able to pay.
And if you're a trust fund baby.....screw you...get a job :) - FallenTurtles, on 12/17/2008, -4/+16Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but, according to this article, I don't believe anyone at the store said she didn't have a real job. They said without a separate work number, their computers won't allow a purchase. You can infer from that what you want, but they didn't say it wasn't a real job. Those statements were made by the article writer and the couple involved in the story.
Sensationalism at its best. - ausdigger, on 09/15/2009, -0/+12no, we have mobile phones.
- mmockett, on 12/17/2008, -2/+14I think she's talking about the general mentality that working at home doesn't count as work at all.
- dwtc, on 12/17/2008, -20/+31Her husband has a good full time job, and his income is her income. I'm sure she has credit. She very likely has a joint bank account with her husband, and possibly an account of her own. She most likely uses credit cards and debit cards. The article doesn't say whether they actually ran a credit check on her, just that they couldn't sell her a phone because she didn't have a separate work phone number.
If the phone number issue was the only reason the computer wouldn't let them do it, then they should have re-entered her home number as the work number (a lot of people do work from home), or she could have given her husband's work number.
But just saying that she can't have a phone because she doesn't have her own income is retarded. I don't think I've ever even been asked for a work phone number when signing up for a cell phone, just my social security number.
I wonder what percentage of cell phone subscribers are full-time moms? It's funny to think someone would get denied a phone for that. Maybe 15 years ago, but in 2008? - glucoseboy, on 12/17/2008, -8/+19They've got her social security number (or equavalent) to do the credit check. That's the only thing that they need. Her credit score should be good enough. When I signed my 2-year contract for my phone, there is no job requirement.
- BradOFarrell, on 12/17/2008, -0/+11No, she just needed him to co-sign. The same would apply to an apartment or a car loan or whatever.
- badqat, on 12/17/2008, -2/+12They're slightly more annoying than BB fanboys, I will give you that.
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