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- LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -11/+159"This is the result of a marriage that was arranged, not chosen,"
Well that helped explained the craziness, but I still don't see why the eyes would get ripped out. Maybe a punch or something, but ripping out eyes is just a whole other level that makes no sense. - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+140I can't even begin to imagine the kind of sociopathic freak you would have to be to actually dig your fingers into someone's eye sockets while she's screaming in pain and rip out her eyes...
- SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -21/+121I am so sick of how many Diggers refuse to accept that fundamentalist Islam is a problem.
Rape victims are punished under Islamic law, not rapists. Stuff like this, while not encouraged, is bred from that kind of attitude.
And the "well, Christians have been bad historically" argument is pathetic. Just because another religion has problems doesn't mean one's problem is any better. - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -10/+96Who gives a ***** if he's Muslim? He is obviously a crazy wackjob no matter what his religion.
- Leonffs, on 11/20/2009, -22/+90The original story: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/23/dog.head.ap/index.html
This guy literally copied and pasted from CNN onto his blog, and didn't cite his source either.
Buried as blogspam, but interesting story nonetheless. - berwiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+62they should remove his junk. that would be a start i guess.
how great would it be if technology allowed for a transplant when you commit a crime like this. - FyreGoddess, on 10/12/2007, -20/+79Wow. Not once is Islam mentioned in the article.
Also, good luck to him finding a new wife during his prison sentence.
Did you read the article at all? Moroccan /= Muslim. - rolandde, on 10/12/2007, -22/+76" Mr Cabanes begged the jury for leniency, claiming his client's action 'appeared to stem from a mental illness.' "
And that mental illness was reinforced by his religious believes. Sure, he very likely was a crazy ***** before he married his wife, but an imaginary deity that gives you total power over women sure helped to push him to these vile acts. - Antialias, on 10/12/2007, -37/+81LuckyLizard,
Um.. so does the Bible, but both books also say to love and respect your wife. You can argue that the Koran talks about it more, but not that it's the only book that mentions it. - juicedigital, on 10/12/2007, -2/+39Clearly, he studied under Pai Mei.
- PatrioticKiwi, on 10/12/2007, -13/+41If we are to understand Islam, we need to go to its source. Here is what the Koran has to say on the superiority of a man over a woman:
Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and ***BEAT THEM***; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034 - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Even if he is Muslim, so what? He's obviously a sociopath.
- SnuKs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Im sure he'll have plenty of sex now in prison.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+39@satost
It's not a Muslim thing. Its more like a "Third-World" mentality. - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -14/+36@patriotickiwi:
from http://www.submission.org/women/beating.html
"At first glance this verse may appear as if promoting physical abuse of women. But when reading 4:34 carefully one realizes that it actually prohibits abuse and beating of women by using the best psychological approach.
The advise to first talk and then avoid sexual contact, provides the necessary time and space for both parties to cool off, reason, examine the problem and reach a favorable agreement for both of them.
Abuse of a wife will not happen if the man learns to follow the clear commandments of God in this verse and in the order decreed. Abuse will only happen when a man does not follow these commandments, and thus fails to cool off and reason with himself or with his wife.
Sura 4, where we read 4:34, entitled "The Women," is one of the longest chapters in the Quran. It deals with many of the rights and responsibilities of women, rights that were first available to western women only a few decades ago, and some that still aren't. The theme of this Sura is to defend women's rights, and countering injustice and oppression of women. Thus, any interpretation of verses in Sura 4 must be in favor of the women, not the other way around.
Unfortunately 4:34 is extremely abused by many of the so-called "Muslim" men in the world. While disregarding their own obligations and their own righteousness, these men only focus on the third step of handling this difficult condition as described in 4:34, skip the first two necessary steps and give themselves the excuse to beat their wives. They find support for their misguided and biased views, and for treating their spouses unjustly, in the fabrications of the so called Hadith and Sunna. They thus misrepresent the true Islam (Submission), and divert people from this perfect and just religion for all. " - exscind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21The counsel's argument is ridiculous. To think that marital circumstances or cultural differences can somehow justify gouging someone's eyes out.
- h0ly, on 10/12/2007, -8/+28@rebop:
This is more like a *****-insane mentality. You do have some sickos up there in "First World" shooting kids in schools as well. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27@Condottieri,
Where the hell have you ever met a Mohammad who isn't Muslim?
Find me that and a little white girl named Shakwanda and you'll win a prize. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20Damn.
I just give mine the silent treatment and retreat to the garage with a beer....or go fishing if the weather's good. - MadMaxx426, on 10/12/2007, -12/+32To all bitching about "Islam" not being listed...:
No, it did not state that they were Islamic. However, I'm going to go out on a limb here:
1) They live in Morocco - an Islamic nation (member of the Arab union last time I checked). An eclectic country to say the least, but damn near everyone is Islamic.
2) His name is Mohamed Hadfi -- before someone says "that doesn't mean he is a Muslim...", try googling the name, I'll wait.
While this doesn't really mean anything, I'm just playing devil's advocate (which is somewhat ironic, as I'm an atheist...hmm). This guy has issues, but don't blame everything squarely on the religion (nor try to deny that he is in fact Islamic). - carpender, on 10/12/2007, -33/+52Talk about blind love.
Sorry.... Had to go for it. - btgoss, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27Remove her eyes so she cannot look upon another... and will be less likely to stray...
I only wish justice was an eye for an eye in this case. - Shakermaker, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25@antialias: The Bible does not say anywhere that it's okay for a husband to beat his wife.
- Hillsfar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Which just tells you that advocates of Moral Relativism need to be put into the subservient/victim roles in those cultures. THEN let's see if they can continue to sputter their stupid excuses.
- DreKor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20You mean the Mormons? Or were you refering to the Amish?
- spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19As well as people stealing their ex-girlfriends' dogs, cutting off its head, then leaving it on their doorstep.
- MoeWasHere, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Speaking as a Muslim guy also named Mohamed who loves his wife very much .. .. WTF?
Shoot him.
Hang him.
Tear out his eyes - whatever.
Seriously - what. the. ***** is this? - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23"they'll bring down the West if it was up to them"
In the USA, A woman is beaten every 15 seconds by her partner; it happens at some time in 25-35 % of American homes; 4,000 women die from such abuse each year. (FBI) - nomadxx7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14"He had a mental illness"
You f***ing think? No one in their right mind would physically rip someone else's eyes out of their head. I mean (1) She's a woman (2) She denied you sex - go look up porn (3) She wanted a divorce anyways.
If you can't take those 3 little hints she don't want you do you think ripping her eyes out will solve the problem? Geesh - ayeroxor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16ozziegt: "I can't even begin to imagine the kind of sociopathic freak you would have to be to actually dig your fingers into someone's eye sockets while she's screaming in pain and rip out her eyes..."
When you're raised under the belief that women are posessions somewhere below livestock, this is about as shocking as someone smacking an ox when it refuses to pull the plowshare. - ozziegt, on 10/12/2007, -18/+30@roland, wtf are you talking about? Nothing in Islam reinforces this behavior.
@lionhart: umm, dude. It's a news site. Just like CNN they took the article from the french-news press and put it on their site. - iSeven, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13holy *****. My jaw literally dropped when reading that headline. Whats with today's news theme of dismemberment?
- HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Why do you assume that Aussies don't read world news? Besides, if it were linked to a French site, the text would be in French, would it not?
Think, boy. - uttles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14how can it be "again" and "one bad apple?" No really, think about that for two seconds.
- nbcivic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Ignorance makes me sick
- LuckyLizard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Just had a couple of friends for dinner tonight, he is Moroccan apostate of islam who had to flee his country to avoid been killed.
He was absolutely disgusted but not surprised at all by this terrible story.
He, the Moroccan friend, is convinced this happened because of the way muslims are educated in the "islamic way".
The leftist and other idiots who never lived in an islamic country / regime and who say this crime has nothing to do with islam think they have a better knowledge about islam than this friend of mine... Come on guy's, I do not say all Arabs are dangerous criminals BUT...
... I certainly say that most who are educated as muslims (not only Arabs) are potentially much more likely to commit these sort of horrific crimes (beating women, terrorism etc) because of the sick islamic ideology and brain washing education based on the koran they received. - punx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10You can't convince liberals that sometimes people aren't redeemable. A good friend's father abducted his son, her brother, and took him to Lebanon. No one in that ass backward country would do anything to help her mother recover the boy (He didn't want his two daughters, just the son) because she was an infidel non-believer. She finally had to hire some ex-soldiers to go over there and grab the boy. Then, the dumb ass father was arrested in Crete after he had the nerve to try to get back to the U.S. to kidnap his son again. It turns out he had been molesting his daughters for years, and had told them it was his right, that he owned them. Beat them, raped them, and because he was their father, in the eyes of the Koran he owned them, and they believed it......The fact is that all this Koran crap is beaten into their heads from a very young age. It is flat-out brainwashing. There is nothing good about Islam because of the way it is taught. The man is the lord and master over women. Blowing themselves and others up in a Holy War will get them straight to Paradise. Terrorists are role models. Great religion and/or society.
- HeyArnold, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13wow, i guessed the guy was Muslim, and guess what? I was right. "mental illness" indeed.
digg me down if you want, but i see more and more ***** like this happening because of religious belief.
Not that all religious people are THIS ***** deranged, but it seems pretty easy to use religion as an excuse to be a sociopath. - FiP0, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20LuckyLizard :
From your link :
"ACCORDING TO HER, Islamic law allowed a man to strike his wife."
sultantravi :
We were talking about Islam, not fundamentalist islam. - bigpeeler, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Wow. Didn't see that coming.
- Condottieri, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17@HarryBauzonia
My good friend back in Maryland is named Mohammad, and although his parents are muslim, he was agnostic.
Just because someones name is Mark or Luke or Peter doesn't mean their catholic. - quantumHobbit, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@waterdragon and drekor
That could apply to devout Baptist and other Protestants too. - HellifIno, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13"strictly forbidden" ?
Ok, you can rape a woman/girl, and SHE gets blamed for disgrace to the family. Is that not a free license for males to abuse/rape women w/ no consequence? Killing a rape victim somehow restores honor to the family.
Can that possibly get any more ***** up?
I had more of a point, but I forgot it : ( Anyhow... - sid0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"Second I cannot believe that people would say things like "Islam makes me sick,""
The trouble is that orthodox Islam does make me sick. With the amount of controls over an individual's life, it would make any free-thinking person sick.
You really can't deny the following facts.
FACT: Apostates are killed a lot of the time, in the middle east and northern Africa.
FACT: There is a much higher proportion of extremists in Islam than in any other religion. As someone so succinctly put, most Muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.
FACT: 1000s of people were killed after the Mohammad cartoons. Millions throughout the world went on a rampage. Clearly Muslims are much more prone to violence than anybody else. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT HAPPENED THEN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY.
The root cause for all of this is the notion of submission. "Islam" means submission. You are supposed to follow what a book says, or follow what some mullah says. (A lot don't do it, thank god.) Therefore, even when it is peaceful, it is ideologically dangerous (I know, I've posted this twice before already, but this needs to be known). - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13"What has religion ever done for us positively?"
Well, just about every socially positive thing that exists is all.
Rule of law, being kind to one another, love for others, charity, and all that trivial crap that I guess you have no use for. Even the moral codes that athiests and agnostics carry around are religiously based. Don't kill, don't screw your neighbor's wife, don't steal, etc. It's that whole 10 Commandments thingy you've probably never heard of. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Thanks for the clarification Condottieri.
You're defining "muslim" as someone practicing the muslim faith, while I'm using the term as more of a cultural description. Your definition is of course, the most correct. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11So Schpariel, those parts of Islamic teaching which state that women can be beaten if they get uppity, that hell contains mostly women, that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man and that a woman can only inherit half as much as her brother just don't exist?
Quit the taqiyeh, it doesn't work on this infidel. - SavageBlackCat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@FiP0
you'd have an argument if it was just one or two, or even 10 to 20. But this is entire batch of nujobs. - haggie, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15Haven't even read the article, but I'd bet $5 that he's Muslim.
- punx, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16@ozziegt...............
Everytime I see your posts on this website it has something to do with defending the crimes Islamic men perpetrate against women. You claim it has NOTHING to do with Islam. Two days ago, you were claiming Islam has NOTHING to do with Female Genital Mutilation. So the question here is, do you hate women in general, or are you Muslim. Either way, your comments are suspect. It must be hard keeping up with all these abuse stories and still managing to come up with the same old rhetoric, "It has nothing to do with Islam." Yeah, sure. -
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