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More F.B.I. Privacy Breaches Reported - New York Times

nytimes.com — WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI improperly used national security letters in 2006 to obtain personal data on Americans during terror and spy investigations, Director Robert Mueller said Wednesday.

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tvanwyk, on 03/06/2008, -0/+62''We are committed to ensuring that we not only get this right, but maintain the vital trust of the American people.''
"Maintain"!? Surely that would imply that trust already exists between the FBI and the American people.
- SC4RP, on 03/06/2008, -1/+1Look up your favorite attorney and lets hope we can make a profit on their TRAITOROUS BEHAVIOR!!
GodGiven42, on 03/06/2008, -22/+2Front paged with 50 digs and 1 comment?
- chiefbttlwshr, on 03/06/2008, -7/+1I caught that too, strange....
- bacon_skoda, on 03/06/2008, -3/+7you forgot about the SuperDiggers.
- moolaismyfriend, on 03/06/2008, -2/+6How's that website you have been working on going?
lostarchitect, on 03/06/2008, -0/+6well, there's a surprise.
VaporBro, on 03/06/2008, -3/+29I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!
- Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -2/+23Yeah, you probably will. And so will everyone else.
- mcla0181, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1I think Hobbes was onto something....
- groverblue, on 03/06/2008, -4/+4VaporBro, statements are meaningless unless you back them up. I hope you've written you Senators and Representatives about this, or protested, or wrote letters to the editor of a local news paper. btw, Digg doesn't count.
  - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Will writing letters to your Congressman do anything? I did that for years, and I got form letters back. Will asking the very organization doing this to change it's ways... change anything? It's like asking the Mafia to police itself.
    - MellerTime, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3I've done it for years and haven't gotten squat back. Count yourself lucky...
    - neognostic, on 03/06/2008, -0/+2I've received responses back from Congressman and Senators, ask specific questions and you do get specific answers. I know the aides are responding, but it is at least being read. I find a much better response from local officials, I've had road stripes repainted, holes fixed, trees removed, signs repaired/removed etc.
- Gazoo2001, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3VaporBro is quoting the character Howard Beale from the movie Network. See for example:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08&feature ...
- Benjaphil, on 03/06/2008, -0/+2Believe it or not, you have to actually get out there and protest. Your brothers and sisters are out there on the front lines already. If you see something you don't like, bitching about it on the internet only serves a venting purpose. Well, it shows other people that they are not alone, but really, the internet is not reality. Actions are reality.
  
  take it up a notch America! Take your country back before your country takes mine. (Canada)
  
  i mean, we already share our military for "civil" purposes. AKA to quell your protests, and eventually ours.
  
  Not that i honestly feel peaceful protest is going to solve this problem, but you have to try.
  
  Make your presence felt, not just known.
...---..., on 03/06/2008, -0/+35Yeah... the government wouldn't abuse the power of warrantless wiretapping or national security letters without any oversight. Right... we should just trust the government with these broad powers and just believe that they won't use it for political reasons, or retribution, or blackmail... And - we're supposed to THANK the telecoms for ginving the government unfettered access to our private information.

What have we become?
- neognostic, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1Chattel of the neocons?
moolaismyfriend, on 03/06/2008, -2/+10And thanks to the "no more rubber stamp congress" I donated 3,000$ to through 4 different campaigns to ensure a democratic take over in 2006. How much have you pathetic Democrats accomplished?!

Our system of check and balances is broken. Nancy Pelosi I will never live down voting for you and writing checks to you. And that goes for the traitor Jim Webb that voted YES to increase the FBI powers to spy on Americans.
- NSResponder, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1You thought there were two parties, right?
  
  Sucker.
  
  -jcr
invasi0n, on 03/06/2008, -1/+9FBI + CIA = US real president.
- mcla0181, on 03/06/2008, -2/+2You like math eh?
  
  How about,
  Republican - Democrats = 0
  - MellerTime, on 03/06/2008, -0/+5Or Republicans + Democrats = 0. It's one of those funny math laws that work both ways...
moneyswears, on 03/06/2008, -1/+32Orwell, you son of a bitch.
- Railz, on 03/06/2008, -0/+10Orwell's law
Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -0/+19I hope this isn't a surprise to anyone. Government philosophy is that your life is theirs. As long as you are left with the perception that you still maintain control, that's all that's needed.
- EarlOfLade, on 03/06/2008, -0/+6I'm sorry, but I am not used to it. Where I come from, the government fear the people, not the other way around.
  - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Can you get me a passport? This is a country I have not heard of.
  - WeThePeople2012, on 03/06/2008, -1/+1where are you from? give me citizenship.
PolishLogic, on 03/06/2008, -3/+5Thank god the NYT is merely relaying an AP story, otherwise I'd have to question the credibility of this. That being said, this sort of stuff has been happening since the days of Hoover, however thanks to the public's distrust of the Patriot Act, reports of such abuses are finally seeing the light of day.
Intercon, on 03/06/2008, -2/+14Everything you download, every email, every telephone call, every credit card transaction, and every website you visit is now being tracked by the government. Welcome to the New World Order.
- Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -2/+7I'm sorry, is that the Tri-Lat NWO? The Jewish Banker NWO? The Freemason NWO? I always get my NWO's mixed up. About the only one I don't is the wrestling one; unlike the others, mostly everyone knows that one is fake.
  - BikerDude69, on 03/06/2008, -4/+2They are all one and the same.
    - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -0/+4Ah. Ok, so who has whose hand up their ass? Do the Tri-Lats have their hand up the ass of the Jewish bankers? Do they have their hand up the Freemasons ass? And whose hand is up the Bildebergers ass? Could you perchance diagram the whole hand-ass relationship between these groups for me please? Maybe it'll be less confusing for me next time.
      - ghuytro, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3Someone's been watching to many anal fisting movies!!
      - mrgreenjeans9, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1ATM FTW
ufia, on 03/06/2008, -8/+1In related news: Thousands of paranoid Ron Paul supporters were not investigated by the FBI. Loud anti police state protests continues on the street in a vain attempt to get attention from law enforcement. More at 11.
- BikerDude69, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3Buried. Don't talk bad about Dr. Paul!
- psion01, on 03/06/2008, -0/+5So ... what? We're just supposed to overlook this sort of thing? Is that your point? If so, WHEN are we supposed to sit up and say, "Gee ... this is going too far"?
aimhelix, on 03/06/2008, -1/+5Plain unacceptable. Sad really. I'm not sure what's more dangerous - the FBI or the "people" they are trying to "protect" us from....
justiceape, on 03/06/2008, -0/+6Uh, it's been going on for a few years now. Rule 1. When they announce something publicly, they've already been doing it for years.
- WeThePeople2012, on 03/06/2008, -1/+0Yeah. Clinton administration spied on us too. Our government has almost always been extremely corrupt and dangerous, we're just being more open about it right now. Makes me wonder why?
Curlz31, on 03/06/2008, -1/+14Mueller: Ok, Ok.....so we illegally got thousands of people's internet records and used them to blackmail people into saying they were terrorists planning to blow up the Statue of Liberty, then when they refused to confess, we shipped them to gitmo where they were held for 3 years without trial. It was accident!!! I swear!!!! U guys still trust us right?
paganmonkeyboy, on 03/06/2008, -1/+14"Everything you download, every email, every telephone call, every credit card transaction, and every website you visit is now being tracked by the government. Welcome to the New World Order."

You make this sound like a problem, comrade. What are you hiding ?
- AeonTorpor, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1What are your sins?
Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -7/+2I think it's amusing that people can say government is bad, bad, bad, and then next week on a different story, say government is good, good, good.
- masterm1nd, on 03/06/2008, -2/+4Government is bad bad bad but we want more more more!
- inchrnt, on 03/06/2008, -2/+4where is that "government is good, good, good" story you refer to? I haven't seen one of those in a long, long, long time.
  - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -3/+5Almost any story about poverty or medicine. People scream for government to fix these things because government is good, good, good.
    - jdaniel284, on 03/06/2008, -3/+3I guarantee you that the Libertarians that are concerned about the encroaching police state are not turning around and celebrating socialized medicine. You are trying to inject hypocrisy where none exists.
      - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -1/+2I guarantee you Digg isn't populated exclusively by Libertarians, or even libertarians.
  - masterm1nd, on 03/06/2008, -1/+2Government > free market?
- Gazoo2001, on 03/06/2008, -1/+2I think there's a difference between saying "government is bad" and saying "THE government is bad;" the first statement means "it is bad to have a government" (or loosely interpreted, "it is bad to have too much government"); the second statement means "the present government is bad."
  So, while I am not interested in addressing the arguments around the first statement, i.e. how much government do we want, I don't find it inconsistent for people to simultaneously say things along the lines of the second statement like "the government is doing a really bad job at (say) environmental protection," and "the government is doing a really good job at (say) national defense."
  In a federal government with 3 million employees (http://www.data360.org/dsg.aspx?Data_Set_Group_Id= ... it shouldn't really be surprising that some jobs are done well and others are done poorly.
  - MrTarot, on 03/06/2008, -0/+03 million jobs done by people that may or may not be qualified to do them mind you. For instance: FEMA director. That's not to say all government employees aren't qualified, but I'm sure there's more than a few.
dizturbd2, on 03/06/2008, -1/+2Just curious....Who is more to blame? The F.B.I. or the agency(s) whom they acquired the info from? Both sides of that fence violated procedure. That makes the F.B.I. seem like that nosey old lady next door who is always up in your business, and the other a NARC.
- jdaniel284, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1"That makes the F.B.I. seem like that nosey old lady next door who is always up in your business".
  
  Actually, it makes the F.B.I. seem more like the Gestapo.
- oldgal, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1us for voting the folks into office who support this stuff
createcontent, on 03/06/2008, -2/+1woohoo front page...
Arcueid01, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7Guys this isn't surprising! What do you think was going to happen. This is exactly why we shouldn't give the Telecoms immunity. Nerp.
BikerDude69, on 03/06/2008, -0/+5It's the American Peoples fault for blindly voting (or not voting) for whoever the media tells them to, accepting possibly corrupt electronic voting, and failing to hold their repesentatives accountable.
- Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -1/+2"It's the American Peoples fault for voting"
  
  There you. Fixed your typo. You can buy me lunch.
inchrnt, on 03/06/2008, -0/+4I have a crazy theory that BushCo was using all this privacy intrusion to spy on republicans (among other things) and keep them in check. Those that didn't comply were "outed."

I told you it was crazy.
Groovydoo, on 03/06/2008, -0/+12And people Digg me down when I say that George Bush has made America a Fascist state:

Secret Prisons? Check
Torture? Check
Widespread government surveillance of its citizens? Check
Habeas Corpus suspended indefinitely despite no declaration of war? Check
Royal families? Check (Must be a Bush or a Clinton to be President)
- jdaniel284, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7George Bush, along with the entire Republican and Democratic establishment.
  - lajaw, on 03/06/2008, -0/+4And the next president and congress won't be any better.
- WeThePeople2012, on 03/06/2008, -0/+0Preach brother, preach! But America has been ***** up and extremely corrupt way before Bush. When was the last time we had a president who upheld the law and followed the Constitution instead of just doing things their way?
  - Leomarth, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1George Washington? I think even with John Adams he started to stray.
- oldgal, on 03/06/2008, -0/+2you forgot the detention camps being built - project endgame - google it
wissler, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro
david76, on 03/06/2008, -0/+7This is exactly why you don't give blanket power to a government agency like the FBI without judicial oversight. End of story.
Dumbledorito, on 03/06/2008, -0/+11The really sad thing is that our spy agencies were practically unfettered before. FISA had retroactive 72 hour authorizations for anything they wanted to snoop.

The ***** just don't want there to be even a CLASSIFIED paper trail. And to the Bush supporters out there: If you support this violation of our rights, keep in mind that a Democrat will have this power someday. Mull that one over before you start thumping your chest about "turrists hatin' our freedums" and you just might see why the rest of us have thought thiswas a bad idea since day one.
- lajaw, on 03/06/2008, -1/+1The next president will likely keep it going.
  - neognostic, on 03/06/2008, -1/+1Only if it's HRC or McCain. Obabma signed the pledge.
    The pledge is anything but radical. It simply asks candidates to affirm a statement that reads: "We are Americans, and in our America we do not torture, we do not imprison people without charge or legal remedy, we do not tap people's phones and emails without a court order, and above all we do not give any President unchecked power. I pledge to fight to protect and defend the Constitution from attack by any President."
    - lajaw, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1We will see.
eLuminx, on 03/06/2008, -0/+5The thing that bothers me is that there is never any retribution to these agencies. I mean nothing at all, they can fess up any of their crimes, they can probably even get away with saying they had a hand in 9/11 and I'm almost sure that they wont even get a slap on the wrist. This is really insane, the way things are going, they don't show a prosper future for anyone.
- oldgal, on 03/06/2008, -0/+4or they retire and get a medal of freedom award
aserer511, on 03/06/2008, -4/+1reply to my comment-*****, dare to dig me down, if you think it really matters that some paper pusher in washington has a file on you. Let's be sensible people; I am not saying our freedoms SHOULD be eroded, but as long as you can still attend rallies against W, and still openly critisize his practices, he should be allowed to read over some of your communications.
- mranderson86, on 03/06/2008, -0/+2I don't think so bubba....here watch some American Gladiator.
- Gazoo2001, on 03/06/2008, -0/+3Letting even small liberties erode away leads to the death of a thousand cuts....or it's a slippery slope....plenty of metaphors apply. Or try this one, from Niemoller:
  First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
  Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
  Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
  Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
zanzzz, on 03/06/2008, -0/+1Arrogance, incompetence, and insulated from accountability are the mainstays of FBI behavior. The reckless criminality has endured for decades, only the specific form may change.
Ell3, on 03/06/2008, -4/+0"The FBI improperly used national security letters in 2006 to obtain personal data on Americans during terror and spy investigations..."

Conspicuously absent from this article is the fact that those "Americans" all had the first name Mohammad. A coincidence I'm sure! Don't let the traitorous NY Times bluff you into thinking that those "Americans" were real Americans. Immigrants that hate America are not Americans.
lolo2007, on 05/21/2008, -0/+0The really sad thing is that our spy agencies were practically unfettered before. FISA had retroactive 72 hour authorizations for anything they wanted to snoop.

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