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- 8FoldPath, on 05/18/2009, -6/+295That's the wrong way to go about getting her phone number.
- effect1, on 05/18/2009, -15/+270In Soviet Georgia, the handrail holds you.
- Hobbes24, on 05/18/2009, -8/+246oh canada, it's cute the way your police try to be like ours.
- jpeuvion, on 05/18/2009, -5/+204I lived in Montreal for four years, and took the subway everyday... not holding the ramp. I saw a lot of cops during my trips, no one never fined me for this. He must have had a bad day.
- zimsters, on 05/18/2009, -21/+215"Ms. Kosoian, who grew up in Georgia when it was still part of the Soviet Union"
I love it when articles throw in completely random unrelated "information". it's like they're trying to fill a quota of facts about a person or reach a minimum article length. - Rapter09, on 05/18/2009, -5/+153Heh, second post comment on BoingBoing (not mine):
"Well, I don't see what is wrong with this. I regularly walk around downtown with a large gun, and if I see someone doing something dangerous - shoelaces untied, playing with their phone, not looking where they are walking - I rob them of several hundred dollars.
All in the name of public safety, of course, so they learn better not to do it next time.
Please don't confuse me with a common criminal, however. The difference is, I use some of the revenue I generate in this manner to help the disadvantaged.
Last year, the mayor gave me a gold medal for my service to the community."
Sadly, that might happen to Montreal after these silly drug wars ramp down.
Too many cops in the cultural centre of Canada and not enough to do. - Twitcheh, on 05/18/2009, -0/+113Pick up that can, citizen.
- PeanutCheeseBar, on 05/18/2009, -7/+94Blame Canada for the rise of City 17.
- merdok, on 05/18/2009, -2/+80Well thats a good way to escalate a situation!
- theaceoface, on 05/18/2009, -4/+78I occurs to me that everyone in Montreal J-walks... and this girl gets arrested for not holding the rail? I've lived in Montreal my whole life. Please do not think this is representative of our city. This cop was obviously just an idiot...
- comeanon, on 05/18/2009, -4/+67hmm.. well lets take a look at the WHOLE sentence.
"Ms. Kosoian, who grew up in Georgia when it was still part of the Soviet Union, says she didn't catch the officer's instruction to hold the rail when he first approached."
OK.. now let's use contextual inference
(grew up in Georgia, while it was part of the soviet union and didn't immediately understand what the officer said)
Well that tells us she is from another country with another language and as a result didn't catch what the officer was trying to tell her. GEE THAT WAS TOUGH. NEXT TIME READ THE WHOLE DAMN THING.
[lets assume they threw in the soviet union to differentiate between the European Georgia and the American one] - Rogem002, on 05/18/2009, -9/+63Clearly this shows of the cops can and will abuse their powers, even when clearly nothing is wrong. I hope the cop who done it loses his job.
- PeanutCheeseBar, on 05/18/2009, -5/+57I'm sure it was pretty relevant to Ms. Kosoian, considering they probably pulled this kind of ***** all the time in the Soviet Union.
- jasdf, on 05/18/2009, -3/+51So she was fined for not following a police officer's suggestion?
- Rodalli, on 05/18/2009, -0/+46Pick up that can.
- IKORKYI, on 05/18/2009, -4/+48MrInfallible A 26 year-old male from Edinburgh (UK) who joined Digg on January 7th, 2009 and has submitted 2 articles (0 popular) who describes himself as"handsome, tall and witty but don't have any friends," discovers trolling.
- BossKey, on 05/18/2009, -2/+38She was used to Soviet Russia, where the handrails hold you.
- SomeHobo, on 05/18/2009, -2/+38I also live in Montreal and never seen anything like that, the subway cops don't harass people. they usually just walk around chatting.
IMHO the girl probably did a bit more than what the article says. - MrInfallible, on 05/18/2009, -10/+42zimsters a person who joined Digg on April 17th, 2007 and has submitted 29 articles (0 popular) makes a interesting observation.
- defendliberty, on 05/18/2009, -1/+32If it was a 6 foot tall 200lb man, this "law" wouldn't matter. Anyone care to argue this?
- ShyGuy91284, on 05/18/2009, -3/+34I'm guessing we don't have the whole story. I'd like to give Canada some credit and assume it isn't illegal to not hold a handrail on an escalator (Someone can tell me otherwise if I am wrong). I'm guessing the officer was being an ass about his suggestion, and she started arguing with him about it, which I'm pretty sure can land you in a cell with a fine no matter where you are. Even if an officer is being an asshat, and even if you know your rights and know what they can and can't make you do (in which case you should be able to resist), you can't loose your cool at them.
- Colecoman1982, on 05/18/2009, -3/+32When your bad day causes someone to be put in jail and fined $450 for not holding the hand rail on an escalator it's time to loose your job. It'd be bad enough if he had just given her a ticket but this kind of behavior shows he isn't fit to be a police officer.
- gconsier, on 05/18/2009, -1/+29Weak.
One of ours would have tased her first... Nice try Canada... - keltin, on 05/18/2009, -4/+32When you have to kowtow to a police officer because...well, because he's a police officer, then you are way into the totalitarian ***** soup, and baying about it is like doin' the deck chairs on the Titanic.
- CoreyTamas, on 05/18/2009, -0/+27If you read the original article here...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM ...
...you'll see an interesting tidbit that Boing Boing left out:
"Isabelle Tremblay, a spokesperson for the STM [the transit authority], seemed relieved to establish late yesterday that Laval police stopped Ms. Kosoian.
'We were quite surprised to hear about this, we don't give fines for such things,' Ms. Tremblay said." - lazyspartan, on 05/18/2009, -0/+27Now put it in the trash.
- ByteMeAHole, on 05/18/2009, -2/+28This is why you have to assume ALL cops are a--holes. All it takes is one, to ruin your day - so just assume every cop you see is an a--hole, and you won't have to worry... And you'll probably be right more often than not...
- odigity, on 05/18/2009, -1/+26"You can be as snide as you want to a police officer, it's still not against the law."
That's only in a free society - which have apparently become extinct. I've read about them, though. They sure sound nice... - non00b, on 05/18/2009, -1/+26if it were a 6 foot tall 200lb man, they would have called for backup and tackled him to the ground, and smashed his face into the floor. That's what they did to a friend of mine who complained that his train pass wasn't working.
- mikelieman, on 05/18/2009, -9/+32"A cop asks you to follow the law, just do it."
Because even if the law is "Jews must be reported" -- you know, it's the law -- and must be obeyed for the good of the Fatherland, right?
Nitwit. - AbsurdParadox, on 05/18/2009, -1/+24Maybe 40% of citizens have arrest records because bad cops are arresting people for victimless crimes.
And no, I wouldn't like to do their job... I'm unable to abandon morality, as the job seems to require. - darkism, on 05/18/2009, -0/+21You're not British.
- AbsurdParadox, on 05/18/2009, -0/+19The only difference between Government officials and the mafia is public relations.
- Auxon, on 05/18/2009, -5/+24Yeah, because police are superior beings deserving of our immediate obedience in all situations. ***** that.
- Chompy, on 05/18/2009, -3/+22Of course she did, but nothing drives traffic like "OMG cops suck" e-outrage.
- Myztry, on 05/18/2009, -5/+23She's not breaking a proper law as such. It would appear she was breaking a bylaw. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bylaw
In Australia, bylaws can be pretty questionable as they aren't real laws made by parliaments or other appropriate bodies. These quasi 'by committee' laws lack most of the checks and balances of real laws, and can often breach the law proper.
A bylaw enforcement officer is not the same as a police officer. A police officer enforces the law while a bylaw officer enforces rules made under a law. Penis envy can cause them to refer to themselves as police officers, when in fact they are not. - nheels, on 05/18/2009, -1/+19There has to be more to the story then that.
- mikelieman, on 05/18/2009, -10/+28I guess in Nazi Quebec, "police officer's suggestions" aren't suggestions but orders.
- mrhedges, on 05/18/2009, -2/+19Montreal police are apparently having a hard time with the economic crisis too, as they now "officially" have a ticket quota that they must reach. These douchebag traffic cops and "Metro police" will ticket anything that moves. I heard over the radio that if you park more than 18cm away from the curb you can receive a ticket. Cops are going through parking lots checking for locked doors, and if the doors aren't locked, they'll leave a ticket on the inside.
- inactive, on 05/18/2009, -1/+17Nice trolling. Canada and Australia are dominions of the Commonwealth and consequently share a similar law system, including bylaws. Someone who has lived in Canada all their life should already know this.
- inactive, on 05/18/2009, -1/+16You can be as snide as you want to a police officer, it's still not against the law. In this case, she could have said "screw you" and technically not warrant an arrest because based on the information in the article, no law was broken.
- Zenshai, on 05/18/2009, -0/+15they "don't" have anything in the Soviet Union, because it doesn't exist.
and...
they DID have both escalators and subways - yaosio, on 05/18/2009, -1/+16Except there is no law to hold the hand rail.
- Issius, on 05/18/2009, -0/+15I'll bet he is black, amirite?
- zimbadoo, on 05/18/2009, -0/+14Winter tires are mandatory in Quebec. She must have stored them on her balcony because she does not have a locker.
- gmoomaw, on 05/18/2009, -4/+18Which would be worse for this girl? Falling on the escalator because she wasn't holding the rail or being cuffed, arrested, and fined out the ass for not holding the rail?
When the punishment for breaking a safety rule is worse than what the rule is meant to prevent against, you know it's a stupid rule. - TheAbdBoy, on 05/18/2009, -6/+20I'm just glad that Quebec isn't part of Canada.
- takeodrizzt, on 05/18/2009, -2/+16I fail to see how not holding a handrail is against the law...
- a23y1, on 05/18/2009, -1/+15Clearly. Absolutely no more information over 100 words was necessary. None.
- inactive, on 05/18/2009, -0/+13Montreal cops are chill! My friends and I were on holiday in Montreal absolutely trashed walking back from the bars. Decided to get into a snowball fight which turned into an all out drunken brawl and the cops came up and go "Is there a problem here?" We quickly recovered and said no and they let us go with no problem. Incredibly chill for what could have happened.
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