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Michael Moore denied entry into the NYSE

crooksandliars.com — It seems the money-men don ’t want Moore anywhere near them at the NYSE. Michael Moore went down to Wall Street to ask people to divest from health insurance companies and guess what happened? He couldn’t get in…CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo looks pretty flustered when Moore asks her if any other guest had ever been denied access with her before?

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  • fixty, on 10/11/2007, -19/+149Forget the interview location - the *interview itself* is pretty compelling.
    • seanherman, on 10/11/2007, -13/+53Agreed. I think the title is sensational and misleading. While it's possible Moore was denied entry, it seems much more likely that the scheduling issues mentioned were the cause, which is MSNBC's fault. I've never tried to visit the exchange myself, but it doesn't seem like the sort of place you just walk into. On the other hand, you'd think MSNBC would have some sort of prearranged interview space for guests like Moore.

      Regardless, the substance of the interview is what really counts. I love that Moore is finally talking about the weaknesses of the program, and practical issues, like the role of pharmaceutical companies under a universal system. His argument really is airtight, from a moral standpoint, even if there's plenty of room to quibble over the intricacies.
      • brundlefly76, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21I used to be glued to CNBC about 4 hours a day - BELIEVE ME, if Maria Bartiromo wants an interview on the floor, its a done deal - either CNBC or the exchange blocked Moore.

        But yes, although I have seen Moore a lot this week and his examples are getting a little repetitive, he's right on the money and this was his best interview yet - she gave him plenty of time at least to talk.
    • pilot3033, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2agreed, the title is misleading, so is the blog post. It looks more like they are joking around because of paper work. This isn't Moore playing victim, its just an interview...and a good one too.
    • EXreaction, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Direct link to youtube
      http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pcuw-_AOk6g
    • vezquex, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I am not surprised at all. The NYSE is for trading stocks in companies, not people. If Michael Moore needs to raise some capital, then he should have an IPO for his company, not himself.
    • LooseCannon1, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Maybe Moore was there to check on his stocks - Haliburton, Eli Lilly, Sonocco, Boeing, etc. Like most liberals, Moore is a hypocrite and owns stock in many of the companies his publicly loves to skewer.

      http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47174

      Also like most elitist liberals, he most likely thinks the world revolves around him and he can just get in anywhere he wishes, unlike the plebs he thinks the rest of are.

      Actually, if Moore gets any fatter, the world may very well start revolving around him, literally.
    • LooseCannon1, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Maybe Moore was there to check on his stocks - Haliburton, Eli Lilly, Sonocco, Boeing, etc. Like most liberals, Moore is a hypocrite and owns stock in many of the companies his publicly loves to skewer.

      http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47174

      Also like most elitist liberals, he most likely think he world revolves around him and he can just get in anywhere he wishes, unlike the plebs he thinks the rest of are.

      Actually, if Moore gets any fatter, the world may very start revolving around him, literally.
  • therage, on 10/11/2007, -54/+38This is such a great film. After seeing this, anyone with a heart will see it is necessary for a Universal Health Care System to be established here in the United States. Anyone wanting to help, contact your member of congress and ask them to support H.R. 676.
    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt
    • sgglynn, on 10/11/2007, -24/+18Yeah? Where do you think the money will come from for it? We produce even more money with nothing to back it, causing our dollar value to decline even further. Do you have any idea how big our countries debt is now? Imagine if we were told to pay up
      • pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -18/+30hmm, maybe if we stop funding ridiculous wars we might have some money to take care of our citizens, like the rest of the top 25 industrialized countries do.
        • Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17Yea.. the 19 billion dollars we used to train Iraqi soldiers could've helped? Right?
        • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14Seeing this comment dugg down is scary.
          The truth is if you stop spending two hundred million dollars a day on a war, and stop putting defense before education and health care you get a country of informed, healthy, peaceful people.
          • CptGiglges, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Ah yes, we will be informed and health (marginally) but peaceful, i think not. The reason so much money is put into defense is because its a pressing issue.
            I don't want to ramble on but decreasing our defense will cause more terrorist (for lack of a better word) attacks, killing innocents so those informed, healthy, peaceful become people who are 1. no longer peaceful (if they ever were truthfully) 2. no longer healthy. And pumping money into education, while it will help, there's no reason to think that it will make things better (in the long run)... sure i can pay my teacher x5 times as much, but does that mean that shes going to teach better, or that I'll want to learn more from her? Its not that simple.

            Now by no means am i saying there isn't corruption, but come on, its a 'dog eat dog' world, there's corruption in all different kinds and sizes of organizations everyone just points out the government as it is the largest household 'organization'. Plus I really don't think they (or I) care about what you think the money should be spent on, we DON'T have all the facts. The country became the world power in less than 200 years, that's some good decisions if i don't say so myself.

            Peace of advise: Don't trust the media, go out, read official documents and the like and do some investigations yourself. Mainstream media has too large of a grip of our citizens... (aka, We'll report this but not that... which leads to people assuming things...) I think of Michael Moore as just another 'tard with too many friends (or tool, if you prefer to call him that).
      • NikoKun, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14Exactly like Pintomp3 said. We need to stop waging costly political wars against so many countries... And that alone would save a ton of money.
        Want more? Ok, end the war on drugs, because that is a 25 billion dollar waste of our money that could be used to fund health care...
        The US government is so bad at spending money, it's not even funny...

        But when all is said and done, if you stopped paying for your own health insurrance... how much would you be saving...? The average person spends $1000 on themselves for 1 year of coverage... closer to $5000 for a family...
        Now if we were all paying a small extra tax for Universal Health Care... I think we'd be far better off. any tax they would need to put on, wouldn't be anywhere near 1000... it'd be more like 100 a year, or something like that... XD what ever they tax us... it would be less than what the health insurance companies charge us right now... =P
        • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7The figrues you suggest are even lowball figures. I pay 400/month out of my paycheck for insurance benefits and the company sponsors another 1200 on top of that as part of my "perks" (family of 3+ benefits).. i can't imagine with the risk spread out more that i would pay more - if anything the company would spend less and my costs would go down because insurance is directly related to liability and if you spread your liability across a larger base the costs would go down.

          Not to mention being the nice person i am, i've helped many ininsured friends and family pay for teeth extraction, visits, vaccinations and stuff just because i love them. Over the lifetime of me being a loving friend and family member that ads up even beyond the premiums i pay and my employeer pays.

          Even with all that money out the door, i don't even get to choose the company i go through and i barely get to choose a doctor i prefer.
        • CptGiglges, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4I agree, there was a Democrat (i believe) running for president who said that socialized medicare isn't the way to do it, it doesn't work that well in Canada even though people believe it does because it ends up costing 5 times as much, he said what we should do is make it a personal choice as to choose providers, sparking competition between insurance providers (which is what makes this country great) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me7P55V4yQM
      • Chandon, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Your intuitions about money and national debt are wrong. I'd start with this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
        As for "imagine if we were told to pay up", that's not a legit worry - the national debit is in the form of treasury bonds, and we don't have to pay them until the specified date.
    • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -9/+15It wouldn't cost you anymore more money that is the point. You pay WAY MORE than any other developed country in the world per head on health care. You currently get practically nothing back. It would actually save you net money. It is the pharmaceutical and insurance companies that are currently pushing the spending up. Take control from them and the priceing will go down.

      You don't have a problem with saving money do you whilst improving healthcare of American citizens do you?
    • BioHMMWV, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3Therage, are you really Michael Moor?
  • marciobotelho, on 10/11/2007, -45/+26Everybody must see the film!! Everybody should know the truth.
    • Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -11/+8It's not that eye-opening. I've been in a hospital before.
      • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13Moore has done more investigative work than going to a hospital. His movie is biased to make a point. Understand that, look beyond the rhetoric of the film and see what is fundamentally wrong with the health care system.
        • Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I actually haven't seen it yet, my point moreso is that it doesn't take anything more than a hospital trip to "know the truth" about our current system. I'm sure I shouldn't talk about things not being eye-opening if I haven't seen it, and going to the hospital isn't as investigative as what he's done of course, but really, what is so truth-revealing about it?
    • Excen, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Everybody should know the truth.

      The truth that our Health Care system is the most advanced in the world? The truth that if it wasn't for private enterprise in medicine in the United States, three-quarters of cancer treatments being used today wouldn't exist? The truth that people from countries with socialized health care travel here for surgical care because they can't get prompt treatment in their home countries? The truth that you're a mouth-breathing socialist hippie with no clue about the realities of medicine or economics?
      • L4WL3RS34L, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Our Health Care system may be advanced, but it still sucks.
  • ElectricFuneral, on 10/11/2007, -27/+179it shouldn't be a surprise that he wasn't allowed in, they had him arrested a few years ago for helping rage against the machine put on an unauthorized concert on the steps of the building. so SLEEP NOW IN THE FIRE
    • flintmich, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13That's incorrect, He was NOT arrested. He has never been "arrested."

      "The video is for the song, "Sleep Now In the Fire", and is infamous for the band's performance across from the New York Stock Exchange (which they succeeded in forcing the place to lock its doors during the middle of the trading day) and the police detaining yours truly for an hour until I persuaded them to keep my 100% no-arrest record intact.

      source: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2000-08-26
    • skyfire1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Best of RATM may I add...
    • idonthack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Needs more molotov
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2electricfuneral...you have no idea what you're talking about. why is it that so many people get on here and post something and people just believe it? unbelievable! see my post below for more info and the TRUTH of the Rage and Moore story.
      • ElectricFuneral, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i don't need to see your post douche, i saw an interview with moore and morello just a few months ago (posted on here i think), where they talk about it being the first time moore has ever been arrested. apparently right before they went out morello asked him if he had been arrested, he said no. then they went out and he got arrested. (irony)

        and that ***** came from the horses mouth not ***** mtv. i believe what the people who were there said, i don't believe ***** just because its posted on the internet.
  • DaveV, on 10/11/2007, -58/+36The New York Stock Exchange is private property and they can ban anyone they want. I don't blame them for banning more. He is a liar and a hypocrite. He refuses to provide health insurance for his own employees. I bet that is why he is on this health insurance tirade.
    • logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -11/+24actully he provides Aetna to his employyees with a 0 dollar deductable.And the movie is about the health care being for profit instead of for the people. It's mostly about people WITH health care still getting f'd over.
    • jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27Dave V, you are a tool. You posted this same comment about Moore not providing insurance to his Employees. Go back and look what I replied, just like the other reply above, HE DOES! Aetna!!

      Stop jabbermouthing a lie.
  • fitzfan, on 10/11/2007, -70/+197Another publicity stunt by Moore... lame. The NYSE did not block him, later in the day on CNBC it was said that he had not filled out the paper work, and secondly he isnt wearing a sport court and tie like is expected at the NYSE, even if the dress code is not enforced, it was very rude of him. It is very difficult to get in the NYSE, nearly impossible if you do not have connections to a company or someone, and its even harder to get on the floor like he wanted to, so they take the paper work very seriously.
    • jdc760, on 10/11/2007, -31/+6Sport court? Is that like a tennis court? That would be hard to wear, but I think Moore's clothes actually have to be about the size of a tennis court to fit him.
      • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Nice. I gues you really had nothing of value to contribute so you decide to become the spelling NAZI.

        Dugg down for trying to appear intelligent when you obviously are not.
        • jdc760, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Oh, come on, be a good sport about it. I even made a joke about Michael Moore's obesity (as relevant as any other comment here). Besides, it wasn't a spelling error, it was a usage error.

          I "guess" I shouldn't even bother pointing out your own spelling error...
    • catalysis, on 10/11/2007, -15/+41Third, they usually don't let people in when their only intention is to cause a scene and manipulate the market.
    • merreborn, on 10/11/2007, -13/+10Not only is this a stunt, it may be an illegal stunt. I'm pretty sure there are some pretty strict laws when it comes to public figures doling out investment advice.

      Who knows who may have short sold a bunch of HMO stock, based on Moore's attempts to trigger a sell-off. Hell, Moore himself could have done so.
      • Excen, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Considering his blatant use of propaganda techniques in his "documentaries", I wouldn't put it past his lardass to try and crash an entire sector of our economy just for fun and profit. I have seen all three of his films and plan on watching Sicko, however do not take them at face value. He uses the same loaded dialogue and logical fallacies that you people bitch at Fox News for using.
    • johndoe333, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I've been to the floor of the NYSE. And sadly, they don't let everyone in. After September 11, the floor of the NYSE (and the observation level) have been closed off to tourists and guests who don't have special permission (ie: admission from NYSE folks) or credentials. Its sad to see one of symbols of modern day economic markets closed off from people to see..
      • satx, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Not really. It is sad, however, that those economic markets exist in the first place.
    • durangotang, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Michael Moore makes a worthy point. And you're talking about paperwork. What an excuse. That's just semantics.
    • Rambeezle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3NYSE shouldn't be forced to widen their doorways because Moore wants in. It's his fault.
  • SteelChicken, on 10/11/2007, -80/+64I wouldn't let him in my house or place of work either. What a tard.
    • toothbrush12345, on 10/11/2007, -11/+0whoops!
    • dpds, on 10/11/2007, -21/+5But then again, you probably bar people from your house and place of work based on ethnicity too.
    • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4SteelChicken: What a moron you are.
    • BlackCow, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7Hey man, thats uncalled for. Michael Moore is trying to fix things in the US, if you have a problem with what he is doing go make a video or write something but don't call him a "tard" without stating any reasons.
      • JoeDiggsIt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Michael Moore or any filmmaker for that matter, cannot change our government. He tried this lame attempt to open people's eyes with Fahrenheit 911 and all that did was gross a lot of money, nothing changed.
    • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Perhaps I should clarify. Your "argument" amounts to
      1. I don't like Michael Moore ("he's a tard")
      2. So, I wouldn't let Michael Moore in my house or place of work.
      3. If I wouldn't let Michael Moore in my house or place of work, no group or people or institution, public or private, should have to let Michael Moore come into their establishment.
      4. Therefore, no group or people or institution, public or private, should have to let Michael Moore come into their establishment.

      My argument based on your argument.

      1. People who argue from clearly false premises, based on unreasonable dislike of other people are morons.
      2. You (Steel Chicken) argue from clearly false premises, based on unreasonable dislike of other people are morons.
      3. Therefore, you (SteelChicken) are a moron.

      No offence, just logic, truth and beauty.
  • HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -69/+46Good for them.
    Why would a seditious communist want to get into the NYSE anyway unless he intended to cause a scene (oh, but he's not known for that is he?)
    I wouldn't let that piggy fat-ass on my property either. It'd be too difficult to get the smell out.
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -14/+21I'm sure he'll be putting this clip on the Sicko dvd.

      Everything he does is calculated for maximum propaganda effect!
      • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9Just like fox news except not claiming to be fair and balanced.
    • Harrison88, on 10/11/2007, -21/+4Awhhh, look here everybody - here's a guy who thinks the US Government is 100% straight. No companies give any of the members of the Government money to influence their decisions do they? Noooo that wouldn't be very American. *Rolls eyes*
    • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5Oooh. "Seditious communist," "piggy fat ass," "get the smell out." Such intelligent, thoughtful comment. If Moore were a bad arguer, you make him look like a sheer genius by comparison.
      • HarryBauzonia, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Sorry Snork.
        If I'd known you were his boyfriend I wouldn't have provoked you.
    • Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3+1 for Harry... Why would the NYSE, a symbolic capital of capitalism, want a communist/socialist like Moore walking around? Good for them...
  • TheThestral, on 10/11/2007, -55/+40well whenever michael moore shows up it means he is trying to show something in a bad light. he is nothing but a pest... the best thing to do is ignore him until he tells the public that you denied him access to something so it looks like you are hiding something... you cant win either way. no matter what he does, reporting or whining about confidentiality... fools will believe he is a freedom fighter exposing evil... give it a rest already, the world would be a better place without parasites like moore.
    • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -9/+38yea, our society would be so much better without parasites to bring media attention to corruption and societal problems like our lack of universal healthcare. what an ***** moore is...

      it would be nice if moore critics could actually give an objective counter-argument against his message rather than making baseless and immature ad hominem attacks.

      but oh well, i guess that's why the mainstream media continues to give "news" coverage on paris hilton rather than real issues. anyone who tries to effect much needed reforms gets painted as a villain by the media and the mindless masses go along with it like a bunch of sheep.
      • graberc, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4@smack here

        Here you go.

        You want it?

        okay - Michael Moore movie is nothing but a "parade of horribles" and he often focuses on Vividness and Confirmation biases. Case in point, soliciting people's worst case stories and only presenting worst case scenarios in an attempt to imply that health care companies are bad. A non-biased view would show success stories, kidney transplants, and cancer survivors as well.

        Michael Moore omits important facts - VERY important facts to his argument. I.e. the true reason why US doesn't compare well to Britain and Canada health care (and its not the system, so says WHO). Michael Moore doesn't address that health care costs are out of control in single payer areas as well nor does he address the fact that a person who produces an innovation has more rights to that innovation then a person who needs it.

        yeah I said it. If I make a drug, its mine. You can have it, but only if I say so. It works for McDonald's, it works for life.
      • TheThestral, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1michael moore has an oscar... apparently that is not mainstream media, what a buffoon.
      • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Nicely ironic, smackhero. The sheer stupidity of most of the attacks on Moore are mind-boggling. No semblance of argument or even a nano-second's attention paid to the issues.
    • insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15So you are saying he made no sense in his interview? Are you deaf?
    • stonerider, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2is that you, George Bush?
  • jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -31/+23Notice all of the anti-moore people usually make comments that show they have no heart, they don't give a crap about our "fellow man". Only themselves. Constantly telling fat jokes, communist comments. People, go back to the 1950's red scare days. 24 out of 25 western countries who have universal health care of some form, we are the 1 out of 25 who doesn't. Maybe we are the stupid ones.
    • TheThestral, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5stop whining.
      • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9sure, as soon as you stop whining about moore.
    • bennyfreshness, on 10/11/2007, -15/+4liberty --- not having the government make choices for you
    • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11Notice how all the people who don't like Bush throw about unsubstantiated claims, make fun of his speaking habits, call him an idiot, etc.

      It's not one party or the other that you are denoting here. What you are pointing out is that people are vindictive and childish towards people with whom they disagree.
      • RX8volution, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Aaaaactually. Let me comment on the healthcare issue for a second. My family is partly in Canda, Toronto Ontario to be precise. My uncle has been waiting for a heart evaluation for OVER 1 month no, and has another 15 days to go. SOcial medicine is great if you don't mind everyone being given the same ***** treatement... morons. I'll take my capitalist medicine any time, at least I can PAY FOR better service and not die waiting for someone to get around to me. OPEN YOUR EYES.
      • cwgannon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Err, "all the people who don't like Bush" do so? You're an idiot.
  • in2deep, on 10/11/2007, -23/+42I kind of like the way he gets his voice out there and heard....although when he gets turned away like this he shouldn't make such a stink because just as he always says that people have the right to do this and that....the NYSE has the right to tell him to get lost.
    • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4people have the right to be assholes, but that doesn't make it alright. it also doesn't make it wrong to call them out on it. that's like arguing that just because people have the right to be racist that if some public official makes a racist comment people shouldn't talk about it.

      many of the problems in our society are caused by corrupt reactionaries in powerful places. these people act within the limits of the law most of the time, but that doesn't change the fact that the corruption exists.
    • UnstableMind, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I may not understand, but how can the NYSE have a right to tell him to get lost? Is it some private company? I thought it was some sort of arm of the Fed?
  • mightydavefish, on 10/11/2007, -32/+18Aww, look at the rightards driven to a froth by Moore.
    All you have to do is mention this guy and the right wing ***** themselves.
    Maybe because he exposes them for what they are?
    Either way, it's pretty funny.
    I'm sure the right wing asshats ranting about Moore's new movie already have insurance, so like typical rightards they don't give a *****.
    • toothbrush12345, on 10/11/2007, -12/+9Lol, look at all the leftards praising him for deceit.
      Mentioning reasons why he wasn't allowed into NYSE doesn't make you right winged.
    • Buelldozer, on 10/11/2007, -14/+11Moore is a piece of crap. His "documentaries" are full of inaccuracies, staged drama, half-truths, and outright lies. If the man told me the sun was shining I'd have to stick my head out the window to verify it. He's as bad as the Bush administration when it comes to truthfulness and full disclosure.
      • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6right. give us some examples of the outright lies and inaccuracies that his documentaries are full of.
    • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11"I'm sure the right wing asshats ranting about Moore's new movie already have insurance, so like typical rightards they don't give a *****."

      Good coherent topic for debate there. And yes, I do have health insurance because I got off my lazy ass, got work experience, went and got a degree in engineering, got my EIT certificate, got a job and worked my way up to a good job with good benefits.

      Yeah, I should feel sorry that someone didn't get off their ass to better themselves.

      Now there are people who need helathcare that have fallen on hard times. That's understandable. But it shouldn't be open ended. America is based on earning what you get. If you take that drive away, America will fall into the *****.
      • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4If America is absed on earning what you get then this movie wouldn't have been made. Incase you didn't notice sicko is about the healthcare industry as it is by people who are working and paying for insurance. If what you said had any merit of truth behind it, sicko would be irrelevant but the sad truth of the matter is people are working and they're NOT earning back what they put it.
        • greywolfexcel, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1He's not saying that there's no people that the system doesn't shaft, but that we can't have universal healthcare as a solution, because that would lead to more welfare systems, which take away the drive of people to work. It's a vicious cycle once it starts, and unfortunately, the government seems to like that idea, since it gives them more power. Big government is bad in any form, my friend.
          • cwgannon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Note to self: Never take advice from an anonymous person that ends a comment with "my friend."
  • HMTKSteve, on 10/11/2007, -35/+51Why would they let someone in there who sole reason for going there is to destabalize the market? He wants to go in there and yell, "the sky is falling!"
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18He want's to go in to ask people to divest from health insurance companies.

      Nothing was mentioned about "the sky falling" as far as I can tell.
    • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18asking people to stop investing in corrupt HMOs is going to destabilize the market?
    • Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4NYSE is the wrong place to do so. Most investors just see it as an exchange, not a news source.
  • ArchieAndrews, on 10/11/2007, -17/+35I'm all for protest but it seemed to be a bit disingenuous. It seems clear from the interview that neither he nor the interviewer applied for him to get in and you can't just walk in. Hardly "being refused" unless not having a ticket to a ballgame and not being given a seat is the same thing.
    • ArchieAndrews, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16When Moore asked her if there were any others who had been denied access, she should have said "100% of the people who didn't apply were also denied entrance".

      It tarnishes the message if you have to use hyperbole to make the point.
  • bobcrotch, on 10/11/2007, -25/+16I think Moore is at the point now that he's not even giving anyone else other than him self a bad name. There is such a small amount of people who actually think that he's credible or a 'journalist' that an article like this just makes people click through, no one really cares.
    • dpds, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5If you say it enough it just might come true.
  • bennyfreshness, on 10/11/2007, -38/+151. his movies are sensational propagandistic nonsense
    2. they make some money but not enough to support his insatiable appetite
    3. he's so fat if he bunjie jumped he'd go straight to commy hell
    4. no rich woman would ever espouse him, or any other sane, seeing, non hellen keller-esk woman for that matter


    no wonder he wants universal healthcare
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -3/+81. The messages in his movies are always very clear, backed up with a lot of sense that is easy to understand. Call it propaganda if you want.
      2. Based on what Moore says, he's trying to spread a message, not make money.
      3. & 4. Childish.

      "no wonder he wants universal health care" - Moore can afford the best health care in the country. He's fighting for people that don't have any health care, and against insurance agencies that make it hard for people to get fair treatment. That says a lot as to why he wants universal health care, his message is very selfless.
  • smurf22, on 10/11/2007, -31/+13Michael Mores just a fat jack ass who wants attention. A lot of his movies are FUD,when you fact check them. He spins stuff to his own liking.
    • dpds, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6True. The sad part is practically every conservative pundit is about 10 times worse than Moore.
      • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5The sad part is practically every pundit is as bad as Moore.

        There ya go... all fixed up.
      • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Nice way to fall into the divide and conquer game they play in the media and politics.
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Just a head up. Next time if you wanna be taken seriously leave out the pesonal attacks. Makes you sound less like a tard.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6do you have facts to back up what you're saying? or are you just another Moore hater that spits fire with nothing to back it up?
    • Chandon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Political discussion at the level of two hour documentaries is necessarily simplified, because the reality of political questions is really, really complicated. Michael Moore takes liberties in his movies, but that doesn't mean that you should discount what he's saying. And if you make decisions on the basis of calling someone a "fat commie" or whatever, you have less chance of making correct decisions than if you were flipping a coin.
  • BigFoot48, on 10/11/2007, -26/+14I can live with the taxes I'm paying. I like my private health insurance. You guys who want to pay more in taxes, and get "free" healthcare should move to Canada, and leave us 250,000,000 alone.
    • codyman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Agreed. Although yes I pay for my own health insurance.. its an investment in my opinion...

      Just ask my $115,000 buck medical bills (14 days in the hospital - surgery - etc. etc.) from last year which were brought down to a mere ~$5000.... thats an investment if you ask me which has proven itself worthy
      • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I can see Industry collusion has won you over. Incase you didn't notice, the bill you see is not the bill your insurance company pays. When my daughter was borne i saw a bill for 36,000. I had to "Review" it for discrepencies. When i asked my insurance carrior for a copy of the payments they only paid less than 9 grand. I had to see this as part of my FMLA claim because i took a leave of absence and my employeer claimed i didn't correctly apply and tried to cease coverage and payments on my premium.
        • Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1It's a bit like auto insurance. Just because the body shop asks for $10K to fix a dent does not mean they'll get that from the insurance company. The adjuster will fix that claim in a jiffy.
    • jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9typical "I got mine so f**k you, go get your own". Is this what we've become? If this is America, then we need to come up with a better emigation policy to kick these retards out like "bigfoot48"
      • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3America was FOUNDED on the premise that you WORK for what you get.

        I agree that there should be safety nets for when all else fails... but it SHOULD NOT BE PERMENANT.

        Look at it this way. You have two children. One gets everything given to her. She doesn't have to do ***** but sit on the couch and eat bon bons all damn day. The other has to do chores around the house for his allowance. He goes to cut grass on the weekends to pick up extra money. He goes to class, gets a good job and makes himself useful to society.

        I know which I'd rather see America made of.
        • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3THere would be truth to your merit if the damn subject of discussion wasn't about people who are working and are paying for insurance that are denied coverage. Please, go watch before you comment because ignorance and your opinion of what america is don't mix.
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4This is totally off topic here, my apologizes. But If your government didn't spend staggering amounts money on war you wouldn't need a hike in taxes to pay for free universal health care. In the US killing and war is more important that healing and peaceful negotiation. It's scary.
      • Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Please look at our entitlement budget before mouthing off. Thank you.
    • smackhero, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5except that 16% of americans are uninsured. i guess you're not accustomed to having considerations for others.

      part of the reason humans have formed societies is for the mutual benefits of cooperating for common ends. that is how roads are built, fire departments are funded, public education is supported, etc. but selfish myopic retards like you seem to hate the very idea of cooperation and community. maybe you are the one who should move off to an an island by yourself where you aren't sharing publicly paid for resources with other people.

      if you are so selfish that you are against a public-funded universal healthcare system so that everyone can have access to the basic healthcare they need, then maybe you ought to consider moving away from other people to live outside of and away from our society. clearly sociopaths like yourself care nothing about others and have no sense of the greater good. so, please, do us all a favor and escape to your hidden valley with all the other ayn-rand-bots.
      • BabyWookie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Couldn't have said it better myself, friend. The sheer callousness of egotism, lack of empathy and solidarity with other human beings, that these Ron Paul brown-shirts constantly demonstrate with their Social Darwinist rationalizations, makes them little more than sociopaths.
    • Chandon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The whole point of Michael Moore's movie is that A.) even if you have insurance, it's still the insurance company's job to screw you and B.) there's absolutely no reason why two weeks in the hospital should cost 100 grand.
  • seraph82, on 10/11/2007, -23/+11***** - I bet he just couldn't fit through the door. What leg does he think he has to stand on to preach to us about healthcare. LAWL.
    • CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Oh, ho ho! Michael Moore is fat! I guess that negates every point he makes in his films. Wow, thank goodness the right doesn't have some slovenly fat-ass that tries to push an agenda with little logic or sense to it, or all those right-leaning critics of Moore's might seem pretty hypocritical.
  • heebeejeebie, on 10/11/2007, -21/+11Hmmm. I'm consertative so that makes me rightard I guess. Let me check my pants..... well, no ***** there, just a pile of Michael Moore.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8thats a pretty ignorant thing to say. being right doesnt make you retarded, but when you make poop jokes it most certainly seems like your retarded.
  • Jerim, on 10/11/2007, -11/+8I would run like crazy if I saw Moore coming, not that I have anything against him. It is just that I would be concerned about being a part of some new documentary. I am sure there are many many topics the guys inside don't want to be cornered with.
    • alpinecow, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5I'd run like crazy if I saw Michael Moore coming because I'd be afraid he'd eat me...
  • antiver, on 10/11/2007, -10/+19WMV: http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/18853/1/Moore-NYSE.wmv
    QT: http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/18853/2/Moore-NYSE.mov

    Moore: They’ll let me on the floor tomorrow?

    Bartiromo: We don’t have the permission…(stumbling)…to do that…

    Moore: Has anyone been denied with you as a guest?

    Bartiromo: Ummm, hey…let’s talk about health care a second….
    • AlKo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I thought that was the best part. I'm guessing Bartiromo has enough pull to get a guest in with her if she wanted. But considering that Moore just wanted to cause a scene, she ducked the question to avoid having to say she didn't like Moore.
  • bennyfreshness, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4does cuba do lipo?
    • slenderdog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1there's not enough food in Cuba for anyone to get fat on! The glories of communism!
  • Tweekster, on 10/11/2007, -23/+19I would expect them not to allow every dirty slob in off the street.

    I bet if he actually dressed like a professional, he would be better received. Oh and if he toned down the obnoxiousness.

    Seriously, does that man even know what a real suit is?
    • insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4Why does a professional have to wear a suit? Personally I find it very odd that men always wear suits and think it's better or more professional than a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. I'd go so far as call those wearing suits all the time fags, but most are only doing it of course because they are forced.
    • beckerist, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7He wants to give the impression that he's a "working man." A suit and tie would have, well...in his twisted mind, meant that he would give in to bureaucracy, which is completely contradictory to his image.
      • lewhich, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7nobody wears a suit here in Silicon Valley - only sales people
        • Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Because sales and marketing need to conduct business, which is also what NYSE does.
      • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@beckerist
        Maybe he just dresses the way he does cause its more comfortable...theres a thought.
    • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Would Steve Jobs have been refused entry in his black turtle-neck and blue jeans. Stick to the relevant (Does everyone need to have filled out the appropriate paperwork? Are exceptions every made? )
      • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Is Michael Moore a CEO of a publicly traded successful company and the largest shareholder of Disney, a company traded on the NYSE? Great comparison.
        • Snorkheimer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0If you read (and think) carefully, you'll see that the comparison is apt.

          Tweekster: "I would expect them not to allow every dirty slob in off the street...Seriously, does that man even know what a real suit is.

          You've simply shifted the ground of the complaint from dress to whether Moore is a CEO or shareholder, etc. Incidentally, that complaint didn't seem to apply to the CNBC reporter (is she a CEO, etc.?).

          It's too bad that there isn't a logic checker on Digg, so that only those statements or questions that were reasonable or respectful even got to be dugg or not.
    • omnithrope, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"clothing" is not a critical category.
      try again.
  • mandarin, on 10/11/2007, -14/+19He could have at least dressed up for that...
    Anywhere around the world, you need to at least put on a nice shirt to enter the stock exchange.
    • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8why? i've been tot he NYSE in jeans and a tshirt on a personal tour. whats with all you idiots thinking wearing a tshirt or a dress shirt changes anything?!
      • Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1In this case because it shows respect for the institution you're trying to influence. Why the hell would they let in someone who's clearly trying to cause influence their institution in a negative way?
    • mandarin, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4You're probably on a tour, you wont be able to access certain areas particularly the exchange floor. Stop calling names here and at least show a little respect , tshirt boy.
  • blitzman, on 10/11/2007, -21/+57Moore was there with the intention of disrupting the exchange and making a scene. The people on the exchange floor have work to do - it isn't a forum for political protests.
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6I agree. Speaking out is important though, and sometimes things need to be disrupted to make an impact.
      • Y0tsuya, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2If his disruption causes traders to lose money, would he take the responsibility? If not, then access denied.
  • pradaaddict, on 10/11/2007, -15/+41I'm all for Moore and his crusade against health care insurance companies but i am glad he didn't get onto the floor of the NYSE. Access to the floor is highly regulated and is usually limited to brokers for a damn good reason.
    • stonerider, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3and what is that "damn good reason" might be?
      • NinjaBoy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I dont know, why would we EVER want to limit access to a central hub of money flow? Next thing you know they will try and keep people out of nuclear facilities.
  • CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5If anybody can explain to me why Thomas Wolfe was at the NYSE last week during the launch of the Blackstone IPO, I'd be more than happy to take the booting of Moore a little more seriously.
    • beckerist, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4why would anyone take Michael Moore being booted seriously? Plus, Wolfe is a well respected journalist. Moore is an entertainer. Wolfe has a PhD from Yale, Moore dropped out of state college.............
      • CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Could you please hold your martini glass while you post? I don't think you seemed elitist enough.
  • dcshiderly, on 10/11/2007, -9/+41It sounded like he didn't bother to register as a guest there for the day. The CNBC folks registered Maria according to policy, so she would have been allowed, but because Moore didn't they wouldn't let him in. It's disheartening to hear him speak of it like they denied him specifically, but this is a long-standing policy at the NYSE. If I showed up there on a moment's notice, even dressed appropriately, without prior notification I'd be denied entrance as well.
  • jtb4, on 10/11/2007, -17/+6Commie
    • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"Commie" !!???
      What's that supposed to mean?
      Should they have let him in because he is a commie or did they not let him in because they are commies or was he denied access because he is not a commie?
    • andburn1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Correction: Socialist. Call it for what it is. Let me ask you, do you believe in freedom of ideas?
  • alpinecow, on 10/11/2007, -6/+22While I believe Moore has a great deal in the way interesting and valuable ideas, the NYSE simply doesn't appreciate pontificating from the floor--completely understandable. A stock exchange is a venue for financial transactions, not a pulpit for political positions. The NYSE was concerned that Moore would turn the trading floor into a circus, which, you've got to admit, tends to be his M.O
  • alostreflection, on 10/11/2007, -13/+27no he wants to go in there and yell "the health care system is corrupt!" As an American, i find it disgusting that so many people are so complacent in this country. We used to fight for what we believe in and what we want out of this country and now we just sit back and criticize instead of acting. I don't necessarily care whether Moore is correct or not, there needs to be more Americans with a backbone willing to fight for what they believe in. To expose corruption and to once again make our government scared of its people and not the other way around.
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5So true. One good point made in the movie is when Moore is interviewing the group of French people. One woman says "In France, the government is afraid of the people, and in the US, the people are afraid of the government." There is some truth in there, I believe.
    • andburn1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1When is this era you're so nostalgic about? Did you live in it? For most of American history, people have been quite complacent.
  • mdkoch84, on 10/11/2007, -4/+20Does anyone remember the Rage Against the Machine music video that Moore directed in 2000? The song was 'Sleep Now in the Fire' and they ended up playing near the NYSE. Rage and Moore tried to enter the NYSE but were denied for whatever reason. Great stuff, but I have a feeling this played into him not being let in either. Below are some links to the video and MTV news article.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz8wU9DdbqU
    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1433553/20000128/rage_against_the_machine.jhtml
  • ccourt23, on 10/11/2007, -8/+14I hear you he really did not get in because he did not fill out any paper work and secondarily he was not properly dressed.
    • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It appearst that other guests of the reporter have been let in and Moore is one of the first that have been excluded because of the rules. I believe the house sets rules for reporting and generally reports have been able to bring in guests as they see fit but Moore was denied and thats the beef of the issue.
  • Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -26/+22Congrats to the NYSE for not letting a fat, hypocritical, fact altering scum bag in.
    • CheckPlease, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6If the NYSE kept all its fat, hypocritical fact-altering scum outside, the place would just be filled with the stock-bimbos the cable networks hire.
      • Jagdwulfe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Hot women are always welcome on TV. Michael Moore, Sean Vanity and O'really types should be banned.
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4This kind of insulting dialogue distracts from good debate.
    • andburn1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nice un-biased, non-discriminatory, informed, and reasoned commentary there, Jagdwulfe.
  • Gastrodamus, on 10/11/2007, -15/+12@therage

    As long as you're buying, I'm in.

    If it were really that easy, don't you think we would have done it by now?

    I love it when people act like there's some great conspiracy to keep everyone from getting healthcare. Make the drug companies slash prices (oh, but they should keep researching AIDS and cancer drugs and bring them to market more quickly), and quit investing in health insurance companies (but all procedures should be magically "covered" somehow).

    NEWSFLASH - THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. And if you think it comes from "big corporations", you might consider who owns those big corporations - some of the largest investors in the world are the pension funds for teachers and public employees (many of whom are blue collar workers). So next time you refer to "big corporations", just replace it with "teachers and the garbage man", as in "Teachers and the garbage man should fund cheaper drugs and healthcare."
    • graberc, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2100% right

      This world has infinite wants and needs, and finite resources. The human race has gone through a few hundred thousand years without health care. . .so obviously health care is not a right. Who says you have a right to live a nice, beautiful life? get real. . .Life sucks, get over it. If you want to live longer - pay for it
      • ggeiger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0This is true however what Moore focuses on and what you seem to miss is that the system is corrupt. You can make an argument for and against socialized insurance but the very system that we believe is preventing us from achieving what we pay for. Thats the problem.
    • jasmin888, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5"If it were really that easy, don't you think we would have done it by now?"
      You Americans must be living in lala land. This has been done with great success in other parts of the world. US has the most expensive healthcare system in the world with one of the worst coverages - more than 15% of bnp, less than 70% covered!! In countries with national healthcare systems cost is in general well below 10% and coverage is 100%.
      On top of that you have less freedom in choosing treatment (usually decided by insurance companies), less freedom in choosing which doctor or which hospital.

      The fact is that healthcare is a money machine for some big corporations and their congressmen.

      The simple logic is that your country's healthcare needs are predictable many years in advance (most healthcare is related to age (very predictable) and then to birth/early childhood. After that you have the general healthcare of any kind which changes very little over the years.
      Which position is best:
      1) A lot of individual buyers (hospital chains etc.) who has the double goal of getting the best price from suppliers and earning as much profit as possible?
      2) One single buyer who has no demand for profit hanging over its head?
      Look around the world, and you will see that in every country where there is a national healthcare system that is free for the individual citizen (ie no money upfront when you need its services). It costs less
    • 3Den, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Socialized healthcare has definite concerns, and it's far from perfect.

      The difference is equality and everyone paying for it (as we do with schools, roads, police, libraries, and so on) and considering it a shared, common facet of our society, or keeping it private, where individuals only get care according to their means.
      Without judging which is better/worse, you can sum the issue up very succinctly like this:

      In Canada, nobody has to choose between having one finger re-attached or the other, or between re-attaching a limb and bankruptcy.
  • Shawn4168, on 10/11/2007, -12/+6Morgan Spurlock should do a documentary on Michael Moore. It could be called "Super Size Me 2", and instead of putting his own health at risk, he could just document Mike's everyday eating habits.
    • therealgeddylee, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Why digg this comment down? I thought it was hilarious! True man, true! =)
    • republicker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0HAHAHAHAHHAH Micheal Moore would probably keel over if he was seated next to a vegetable. fat ***** cant even walk around normally becasue he's so fat and he's got the nerve to make a movie about the healthcare system. The problem is americans are fat and sick and lots of people cannot control what they eat. They are bombarded with processed garbage chemically/hormone "enhanced" food and the FEDS dont want to stop it. They like sick people. Then he goes to Cuba to get healthcare when illegal cubans and mexicans fill up ER's acroos the country costs you and I hundreds of millions that could go for cheaper health care. I just thought he was a ***** when he implied guns cause crime but now he wants to parlay the racket of a healthcare system we have into a fascist's wet dream. (socialized medicine.)
    • ggeiger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0totally erroneous
  • republicker, on 10/11/2007, -15/+10Hopefully mikey gets his wish for socialized medicine, because you know soon thereafter his fatass will have a massive heart atttack ot stroke and he will have to sit in the waiting room and die. Way to go mikey turn somthing good(exposing the corruption of the health racket), into some more bueracracy. I tell you what being middle class, i would rather get my surgery or life saving proceedure and end up getting ***** by insurance company and risk going bankrupt than to have a brain tumor and have to wait 5 months to have it operated on. Socialized medicine is not the way to go, you cant look at canada and say, "hey it works for them" because canada doesnt have millions of illegal immigrants raping our healthcare system to the tune of hundred of millions per year.
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2"Mikey" doesn't need socialized medicine - he's not doing this for himself!! He can afford good health care.
      In Canada wait times for emergency procedures and tests for serious conditions vary from province to province, town to town, hospital to hospital. It's not amazing, but the middle class here doesn't go bankrupt trying to keep their families alive. Moore is suggesting that America look at the Canadian, UK, French systems and improve upon them.
    • graberc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3WHO says that the reason Canada fares better is that they have less of a wage/salary gap. So not exactly your point - but it most likely would be that if US adapted a Canadian system we would have all the bad, and none of the good.

      I for one am afraid of single payer systems because usually single payers can set prices for products. I find that this is theft, and if it was up to me I wouldn't sell Pharmaceticual products to Canada if they wanted to steal them.
      • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I don't understand your first paragraph, can you clearify? All the bad what and none of good what?

        I agree, I too am afraid of a single player running the show. And if I was an American I wouldn't trust the federal government to take a huge role in the health care system.

        My point still stands that Canadian individuals aren't getting as poor as Amercians - when they pay for health care.
    • jamesallen74, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Great nickname Republicker, as is Pub (pubic) licker.......LOL
  • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3and the comments in here are mostly more proof of WHY the US sucks and is going down in flames...

    Bush and his Taliban supporters need to pull your ***** heads out of the sand,...


    $200 MILLION per DAY on war.... and you say you can't afford basic health care? ***** morons is what you are..

    Once again.. I am very happy I am NOT an American.
    • HubbertWins, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Coincidentally, we are also happy you are not an American. Works out for all of us I guess.
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That's funny... allot of Americans that actually have a brain disagree with such.. and hence why they like the health care system I have here vs the ***** scam system you have in the US.
    • graberc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I must say, US is fine for me. I have great healthcare and I get to sit back in a nice beautiful country and blow countries with people's names like Kinjiru to hell - and I don't even have to buy cheaper toilet paper
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1way to prove you're a pathetic stupid redneck asshat.. please open your mouth some more and give more evidence you are a moron.
    • republicker, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Oh...... so civilians are the ones who start wars? I wasnt sure how that works. ..............***** Moron If your handle represents your heritage then I'm glad to say my grandfather bullet ***** a few of your relatives.
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Actually since I am Canadian... my ancestors now only beat the ***** outta yours they burned down your precious white house... (which is why it is white in case you didn't know)

        And yes you did start it.. by voting in Bush.. twice.

        And you and the other Bush supporting asshats are the morons.... incapable learning any better though..
    • Gastrodamus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Oversimplify much? You and Moore should have a tea party and dream up all the stuff you could do with all the money we spend on silly things like "defense" and "infrastructure" and "national parks", none of which are arguably as important as basic healthcare.

      Since you're so anti-America, I urge you to never visit America, not use American products and services, and avoid America and all things American at all cost.

      Too bad you can't. Greatest country in the world. Always has been. Always will be. Jealous much?
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Actually I do avoid such.. I refuse to visit a racist homophobic pile of ***** known as the USA and jealous? yeah right.

        Greatest Country? Hmm being the most hated country in the world is being the greatest? Damn I'm soooooo sad I'm not part of that.

        Stupid redneck..
    • Reddog_x2000, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Whether we can afford it or not, you have no right to force others to pay your bills.
      • Kinjiru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Have you even seen the movie Sicko yet? If not WATCH IT... believe me it is something every American should be forced to see

        It's not about forcing others to pay your bills... it's about having a health care system that is focused on HEALTH CARE... and not the almighty $$$
  • UnclePunk, on 10/11/2007, -9/+3He made a lot of good points, but what a bitch! He didn't get dressed up or fill out the paperwork. She should be attacking him for not doing the correct thing
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1She was very polite and even apologized, I thought it was big of her...bigger and more intelligent than any attack.
  • gthrank, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Oh so now people who don't agree with certain companies aren't allowed to see the NYSE? Well ***** THEM. I can trade Nasdaq stocks all day long and to hell with the NYSE. They're probably all republican and Bush-loving.
    • Danjamin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Way to make a good point and then completely throw the validity of what you said out the window with the Republican and bush loving crack
    • adgallant, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No point was made, Moore wasn't allowed in because the appropriate forms weren't filed out, not becuase he doesn't agree with certain companies.
  • graberc, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6Michael Moore is the saddest excuse for yellow Journalism. . .I can't believe people get sucked into what he is selling. i.e. some things he left out

    our healthcare discrepancy is due to wage/salary gap in the US not our healthcare system (thats from the WHO) and, out of control healthcare costs are happening in Europe - so, obviously, moore isn't the soultion.
    • bluesunday, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Moore isn't a sad excuse at all. He's hit on one of the major problems affecting American citizens. It's not about wage/salary gap at all. The fact is a privatized health insurance system puts the decision about your health care into the hands of business executives who have no interest in your health, other than to profit on your sickness. You obviously have a very misinformed picture of the healthcare industry in general and a real beef up your rear-end about Michael Moore.
  • boonesfarm, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Good. ***** him. But seriously, Maria Bartaroma is Smokin'.
  • therealgeddylee, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3Good. This scumbag shouldn't be allowed in to anything remotely close to a professional environment. Moore is a joke. We should send him to France, he'd fit right in.
    • Danjamin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Less and less people share your opinion these days, that's a good thing. Even if you don't agree with his politics, Moore gets people talking. If your side of the argument is correct and compelling you should be happy that he made more people willing to talk about the issue, but you probably don't even have an informed opinion on the issue, you just want to attack Moore because he makes it harder for the status quo to continue without resistance or discussion.
  • heysuburbia, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8Joey Ramone was infatuated with Maria Bartiromo too, he wrote an awesome song about her:

    “Maria Bartiromo”
    by Joey Ramone

    What’s happening on Wall St.
    What’s happening at the Stock Exchange
    I want to know
    What’s happening on Squawk Box
    What’s happening with my stocks
    I want to know
    I watch you on the TV every single day
    Those eyes make everything okay
    I watch her every day
    I watch her every night
    She’s really outta sight

    Maria Bartiromo
    Maria Bartiromo
    Maria Bartiromo

    What’s happening with Yahoo!
    What’s happening with AOL
    I want to know
    What’s happening with Intel
    What’s happening with Amazon
    I want to know
    I watch you on TV every single day
    Those eyes make eveything OK
    I watch her every day
    I watch her every night
    She’s really outta sight

    Maria Bartiromo (5x)

    What’s happening on Wall St.
    What’s happening at the Stock Exchange
    I want to know
    What’s happening on Squawk Box
    What’s happening with my stocks
    I want to know

    I watch her at the big board every single day
    While she’s reporting you best stay out of her way
    I watch her every day
    I watch her every night
    She’s really outta sight

    Maria Bartiromo (3x)
  • sbader, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I agree it does seem to be a conflict of interest to make money from someone else's misfortune.
    • cjhowe, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Not to defend some of the practices of some health insurance companies, however the product they sell is risk management, not health care. You purchase insurance to offset your financial risk of certain occurrences. It's a hedge. If you don't trust the insurance company to come through on their commitment to you, why do you keep buying the insurance? This is as much poor consumerism by the general public as it is poor ethics on the part of the insurance company.
  • jab46, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17How can anyone say our health care system is not broken! Millions of Americans can not get sick and if they do they can, will and have lost everything to try and get well. I've seen the movie "Sicko" and I believe every American should see it. It will make you angry at our entire system.
    I had a close friend lose her battle with cancer, while fighting she had to worry about a pill that cost $900.00 ( that is for one pill kids!)
    Before blasting Michale Moore for using his freedom of speech for the greater good of every American not just the elite maybe you should look into the facts, talk to senior citizens who have to make the choice between eating and their meds., the parents who can not provide proper medical attention for their sick child. or the children of parents who have passed away because they could not pay for medical treatments. It is a huge problem and I pray none of you have to experience it first hand if you do you may understand a little better.
    • tsaylor, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Sounds like good motivation to get out there in the market, work hard, and innovate so you can assure that your loved ones don't have to choose between food and meds. The alternative is crying to the government, and only a fool would trust them to do the right thing.
    • Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0Yeah, yeah... And even more millions of people get great health care in America. Typical Moore - take the absolute worst-case scenario and make it seem like it's the norm. Maybe he'll one day actually present the other side of the argument... Nah, honesty ain't his thing...
  • freebsdmike, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6This just in kkk member denied access to a naacp meeting!

    He went there with intentions of harassing people. No wonder they didn't want him there.
    • jakdracula, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I dunno about that... the democrats have a card carrying KKK member elected from West Virginia.
  • mindwalker, on 10/11/2007, -16/+11Good for them, I wouldn't let him in either.
  • TheSabre, on 10/11/2007, -13/+5I don't care much for Michael Moore's movies. I probably won't see Sicko because it just doesn't interest me much and, honestly, isn't that much of a deal to me. I buy my own health insurance, I have no qualms doing so. So, while I'm not against universal health care, I'm also not for it.

    Rather than insulting Michael Moore's movie-making magic on forums and blogs, why not just exercise your right as an American to choose what movies you want to watch? Hit him where it hurts; don't see the movie. No need to insult him or anything. Regardless of political views, he's still a human being.

    I did see both Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11. BfC was better than F911, in my opinion. I thought F911 was a little too misconstrued during a few parts where I can claim "first hand experience". But that's another topic for another day.

    So, basically, if you don't like him, you don't have to see his movies. It's that simple.
    • ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2His movie is about people with health insurance who think thy are covered. If something really bad happens to you and you need expensive treatment they might deny you coverage. His film shows people WITH health insurance literally dying because they were denied expensive treatments for outrageously ridiculous reasons.
      • digglusis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0I haven't seen the movie yet and honestly probably won't but is he saying that the insurance companies are violating the terms of the contract? If so, then they should be taken to court but if they are just using the loopholes in the contract then shame on the person who signed it.

        I'm really tired of this divestment of responsibility that people seem to want to make when it comes to their own lives. In the end you are the only person responsible for your life. That includes something as simple as defensive driving to something as grand as your retirement and health care. If you want to blame politician's for something, blame them for continually doing the ***** that hides the truth from people. Things like subsidies and requiring companies to provide health care. The insurance companies are getting a free pass because they know that they can charge whatever because the consumer never sees the price. It's artificially inflated.

        There was a brief period where I was without coverage but had to go to an ear doctor for an infection. My wife's insurance hadn't kicked in yet and I just started at a new company. I paid out of pocket.

        Guess what? I got a 20% discount at the doctor for self-pay and a 25% discount at the pharmacy for self-pay. I was upset at first because my first blush is that the various parties were overcharging. When my wife and I started to talk about it the more logical reasoning was that it was easier for the office and the pharmacy to service my needs because they didn't have to deal with the insurance company ***** and paperwork.

        One thing I will note about comments to the thread on C&L is the absurd amount of hipocracy in the comments. They blast rich people for making money in one sentence and the same person comes back with comment that it's okay that Michael Moore to make money with his tactics. I can't wrap my head around it.
        • ecorona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Here's a situation you should consider. The insurance company did everything legit, they did not violate the terms of the contract, yet your wife is STILL denied an operation and dies. You can't afford the operation out of pocket.

          Michael Moore wants to see that come to and end and so do you. I don't think you could possibly defend a system that causes the needless death of so many people.
      • goffy59, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2well your just a moron.... right... right?
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