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- djmdjm, on 06/26/2008, -0/+13Amazing thing, I live in Phoenix and I cannot find where the AZ Republic our big city newspaper has published this story. It is a notoriously open borders newspaper. I guess this story does not fit their agenda.
- inactive, on 06/26/2008, -0/+12Hey, Amigos, this is just the beginning. When the Latin American gangs really get established in this country (they're already in some cities) you'll see some brutal things happen right in your home town. My advice is the same as was given our Revolutionary War soldiers: "keep your powder dry". And, join the NRA.
- whyknot2k, on 06/26/2008, -1/+10Of course not. The poor illegals are just trying to escape a corrupt government so they can come here and make an honest living doing "jobs Americans won't do".
- Salesti, on 06/26/2008, -0/+8The thugs are coming across the border because they *can*. I sure hope you're right about the American people.
- whyknot2k, on 06/26/2008, -0/+8"The problem is not the drugs--The real problem is when the war on drugs was started they made the drugs valuable."
No, actually, the real problem is worthless scum like these three who mow down innocent people to protect their source of income. - IllegalsGoHome, on 06/26/2008, -1/+9Pathetic parasites!! The lowest of the scumbag low. They should be exterminated not coddled!!! You liberal socialists might get your home broken into sometime, then you can rethink your stupid little moronic mantras if they don't shoot you dead first.
- Salesti, on 06/26/2008, -0/+7Heh! Dugg up for sarcasm the last guy didn't get.....
- bj1975, on 06/26/2008, -1/+8Wow these thug illegals are coming across the border and doing this. Where is the breaking news from all the networks in the United states? This was a terriost attack on this country. If change doesnt happened the american people will rise up.
- VinBea, on 06/26/2008, -1/+8Hear, hear; the real problem isn't any so called 'war on drugs' (just a cloak and dagger show to generate big bucks for our 'rogue' government operating with impunity).
The real problem is a 'rogue' government's efforts toward usurping the power and wealth of the American people, centralizing it solely in the hands of a few made up of republicans and democrats - and this toward a global government (it taking a village now...).
Everything that happens either good or bad is because of this 'rogue' government! - garclar, on 06/26/2008, -0/+7This is why you protect the border, to keep the criminals out. Is the fed looking out for you? I think not. Build the fence, lock down the border even if it means putting troops there again, make it as hard as possible to gain entry. What will it take for the feds to secure it? The death of a Senator's son? The rape of his daughter? This is an election year and this breach of our border is still going on, that means they will do little to scure it later. What a joke these wimps of politicians are........ gkb
- JustDino, on 06/26/2008, -1/+8The problem is not the drugs--The real problem is when the war on drugs was started they made the drugs valuable. Until that time you could by them at the drug store. The U.S. government makes more money from tax payed agencies to fight this war--just to watch it grow by the years.
They fought the war on booze and lost just to find a new way to tax Americans to death. I think with the Federal Reserve private bankers printing our money out of nothing and backed by nothing
much of this drug money is laundered in the Federal Reserve and new money printed while the drug money gets burned and our politicians get rich- I could be wrong but looking at the lawless
representation we have today it is not too far out of their scope. When we allow our government
to make law --it should be for the American's good and not about control over the people. The drug war is not working---we need to back off and rethink. If it was legal today--who would suffer?, and would it not stop the flow of drugs if they were legal? No, I do not use the drugs but Americans need to look at the facts--we are paying for this war on drugs. There has to be a better way.
Money well spent would be drug rehab and getting Americans help instead of feeding government
bureaucracies in a loosing war on drugs! - DahktaD, on 06/26/2008, -0/+7It's been nearly 7 years since 9/11 and it has only been within the past year the Administration has initiated putting up some sort of border fence. The question comes up, if these Mexican military hitmen were able to get in, how many actual terrorists (Al-queda type) have made it into the US since 9/11 (let alone the years previous)? Rest assured, if these six 'slipped' through unnoticed, a more sophisticated terrorist organization has likely had a 'field day' exploiting our border. Just a matter of time to learn how badly our border has been exploited.
- Savage24, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6This so called War on Drugs should be fought against the users as well as the suppliers. Dry up the demand and you dry up the supply. The main stream media
will continue to ignore stories like this because it don't fit it's agenda. The government
ignores things like this because there is so much money involved. I heard that
something like 15 billion dollars a year is laundered through US banks. - SuperGu, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6The *networks* won't report this for fear of being labeled racist and xenophobic. Just ask Lou Dobbs, who btw is married to a Latina.
- Brumbar, on 06/26/2008, -0/+6Sweet, and I'm going to guess that the Mexican Government will start screaming that we return these poor misunderstood young men to Mexico. Should they indeed be tried here, the Mexican Government will likely scream that these slime balls don't receive the Death Penalty for Capital Murder.
All the more justification to effectively control our Southern Border, then set about alleviating the burden that the rest these unintentional residents have caused on the rest of us. Start with folks who support La Raza and spread out from there. - SuperGu, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5Correct title: "6 Mexicans dressed as cops kill Phoenix man"
They were dressed as cops. Why is that? RTA - downs1, on 06/26/2008, -0/+5There is a war going on with Mexico. Too broad a statement? OK, there is a war going on with some corrupt members of the Mexican government, including elements of the Mexican Army who are corrupt and who are owned by the drug cartel. Do we pussy-foot around and try to "negotiate" to stop this (it never works--you can't negotiate with evil), or do we catch the bad guys and execute them in public with TV coverage for all to see. Or do we give these bastards the right to be tried in US courts with corrupt defense lawyers who are also paid by the cartel. Do we have the resolve to stand up against this kind of stuff? My guess is we'll reward them somehow because we don't want to make waves, and we don't really want to protect our border or our citizens who live along the border with Mexico. There is just too much money to be made by some of our own who are also corrupt!
- xjRx, on 06/26/2008, -0/+4This is why we need to construct a wall similliar to the "Great wall of China" . We can create temp jobs for all the illegals at minimum wage, have them construct the wall and toss them over when completed.
- Wesen, on 06/26/2008, -0/+4If we started dumping the bodies of these criminals back on the Mexican side they might get the message. Israelis have learned that only head shots stop terrorists.
- fishunlarge, on 06/26/2008, -0/+4I agree xjRx, instead of taking them back to Mexico, they need to take them to the border and put shackles on them and make them build the wall. Especially the drug dealers and cartel members. Be sure and have a cat o' nine tails to make sure they don't lay their sorry lazy asses down on the job.
- Taquoshi, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3When we were in Mexico, I was able to purchase a prescription drug that I had used in the past for severe IBS over the counter. The pharmacist's biggest concern was that I was asking for the correct drug since my Spanish is far from fluent.
Legalizing the drugs would remove the street sales and the drug runners, but probably would not stop the abusers from abusing it, just like legalized liquor sales didn't stop alcoholics. However, it would make the black market flow dry up considerably. - Taquoshi, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3We just buried a 17 year old high school student that the police believe was involved with drugs. He was found with a shot to the head in his own home by parties unknown . I can't begin to tell you how much it has devastated the family. Whether Kyle was right, wrong or otherwise, he will never have a chance to fix things or tell his family how much he loved them. Even if he went into rehabiliation or jail, he'd still be alive. Now all we can do is put flowers on his grave.
As for the parties unknown... they are murderers, beginning, middle and end. They had no problem handing out a death sentence, so maybe when the police catch up with them, they'll end up with the same. - whyknot2k, on 06/26/2008, -0/+3and these guys aren't?
who anointed them to be judge & jury? - buzztail, on 06/27/2008, -0/+3Being a resident in Phoenix this story just about sends me over the top. Think for a minute if you can. I am a member of the NRA, believe in the 2nd Ammendment, and have an arsonal locked up in my home. I also have a Glock 26 cocked, locked, and ready to rock with 148 grain Hydra-Shoks ready for the dumbass that comes through my door in the middle of the night who wasn't invited. Let's just say the scenario plays out, and much to my surprise I see Phoenix Police raid shirts on the people coming in. The first thing I am going to do is lower my weapon. Does this remind you of the insurgence in Iraq dressing in plain clothes hiding amungst the civilian population? This incident is so wrong on so many levels!!! BUILD THE WALL, NOW!!!! Our Border Patrol agents get 11 and 12 years in prison for shooting a drug dealer in the ass while a Mexican judge lets a drug dealer who runs down and kills one of our agents go after 5 month of time served. Is that justice? Is that right? Are we looking for a reinactment of the Alamo real soon if our Federal Government doesn't get their heads out of each others ASSES!!!!!!!!!! Where does the lunacy end?
- inactive, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Good points all, to be sure. But that leaves us with a paradox. Ineffective "law" enforcement and unwillingness to change tactics leaves us between a rock and a stupid place. No choice there. Innocent people as well as full knowing accomplices are victimized. And we just continue to pour money on the fire. We have demonstrated a lack of will to ATTACK the problem with FULL force, enough that it is wiped out. Because if it isn't wiped out it will return like a bad burger.
That seems to limit future response opportunities significantly reducing the impact of the intent to eliminate the violence. In normal legislative and enforcement that we see every day in America incrementalism would be the tactic used to eventually take away one of our rights, why not use the same tactics to squeeze out the drugs? Because it offers money making opportunities for community law enforcement at every level. Acquiring tactical capabilities not other wise part of metropolitan law enforcement life.
This leaves me suspicious of the motives for their present action plan (as evidenced by what we are told) and why they are so ineffective and seem to lack real aggressive technique.
It almost HAS to tie into international economics at the highest levels both political and enforcement in order for the considerable level of permissiveness that we see to continue to occur. - whitesoapalpha, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2I don't think from what I read this man is innocent and he deserved what he got.
- Coven, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2I'm not going to say the victim deserved what he got, but he was certainly involved with drugs in one way or another.
- whyknot2k, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2Maybe he wasn't innocent, but do you really believe he DESERVED to be riddled with bullets? Over 100 rounds fired into his residence - you think he deserved that?
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2If they legalized it tomorrow, I STILL WOULD NOT USE THAT CR@P! Neither would anyone with brains.
As I understand it, the mob was NOT powerful at all UNTIL BOOZE money made them powerful. With that money, they spread to other areas. Granted, the drug money HAS been flowing for decades and many have gotten rich enough to do whatever they want. And there are "sideline businesses" like prostitution that WILL grow. But, NOT with the monetary incentive of drugs taken away. It's just TOO lucrative for them. - jb1965, on 06/27/2008, -1/+3Thanks to you open border pro amnesty and pro gun control politicians the blood of the innocents are on your hands!
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2This is an invasion from Mexico and our stupid government turns a blind eye to it because of the NAU! Do you really want to be merged into one country with these filth sleazy people and their corrupt government that makes our look like a saint? When is enough going to be enough for the American people to rise up and clean house? When America becomes an official police state with Mexican tankers rolling through your neighborhood?
The only way a nation that has very different cultures living under one roof that can survive without literally killing each other is with a dictator in charge. Take a look at Iraq under Saddam. Yes he was a brutal dictator however there was peace among the very different cultures. Now look at Iraq with Saddam gone, they are trying to KILL each other while our troops are caught in the middle trying to stop it! SEE that is what America has to look forward too. - grmeyers, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2you will probably find out later these guys were not military or even cops, they are probably involved with the cartel, have you ever wondered how they got across the border with all the equipment without being searched? three mexican looking people coming into the USA passing through border without question, story dosen't add up
- soofan, on 06/26/2008, -0/+2The sheriff in Arizona has the solution. You go to his jail, you don't want to come back. You go to a jail in Mexico, if you live, you don't want to come back. The most stringent rules of illegal border crossing rests in .....MEXICO..
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2We got a small victory today with the supreme court ruling. To make the victory complete we need to have a show of hands in Congress, and the Senate, as to who agrees with the five who voted in the majority. The four who dissented in the SC, and all congressional reps and senators who didn't like the decision should be rounded up, impeached, then jailed. Then repeat the process at state and local levels.
- inactive, on 06/27/2008, -0/+2The mexican, police, army, and govt is bought and paid for by the cartels. As for how they got through, the fence isn't up yet, they cross through the desert(AND IN ONE SECTION A NATIONAL PARK, WHICH IS NOW LISTED AS UNSAFE FOR AMERICANS, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER).
- inactive, on 06/26/2008, -1/+2'Doing jobs Americans won't do" like killing drug dealers.
- soofan, on 06/26/2008, -0/+1Do you really think that making drugs legal is the answer? Allowing the free flow into our society will stop trafficking? Well if this is the solution, let's legalize everything, that way we won't need the law enforcement, lawyers heck we will just do what we want when we want it. The problem is enforcement of the law. Running from what is common sense. Doing what it takes to stop illegal behavior. The willingness of officials to do what it takes. Illegal booze was taken over by the mob..making it legal didn't do away with the mob, they just moved into other areas.
- grmeyers, on 06/30/2008, -1/+0Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said three suspects who broke into a home and killed the owner weren't active or former members of the Mexican Army.
- whyknot2k, on 06/26/2008, -1/+0Good points, soofan
- soofan, on 06/26/2008, -2/+0Sorry but the mob has always engaged in activities that made them money. They were also in the insurance business. You paid them for insurance that they wouldn't beat you up or let someone else. It was called the protection business. They were in the numbers business and still are to a degree. Making it legal only makes it not against the law, it doesn't make it go away.
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