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'Mexican Soldiers' hold Border Patrol Agent at gunpoint
washingtontimes.com — Another incursion onto U.S. soil by possible Mexican Soldiers aiding traffickers. Border Agents have previously been shot at, including with heavy .50 cal weapons. This time an Agent was detained at gunpoint until additional agents arrived to assist.
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- Christianptriot, on 08/06/2008, -0/+17HOW can we expect the people who live in Mexico to legally come into the US when the Mexican military is doing it - illegal incursions into US territory - without fear?
WHEN will OUR government - you know, the one that is OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people - DO something about our wide-open and unprotected border?- Ricemanstm, on 08/06/2008, -1/+5When a nuke goes off. Only then, and not until. Pretty sad state of affairs.
- jhonsun, on 08/06/2008, -0/+11"It was unclear what the soldiers were doing in the United States, but U.S. law enforcement authorities have long said that current and former Mexican military personnel have been hired to protect drug and migrant smugglers. "
This is state-sponsored criminal drug-trafficking and a state-sponsored invasion of the United States and our government looks the other way. Unbelievable.- JustinCase18, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0What's worse is how often it's happened. I read an article in 2005 that said the Mexican army had crossed our border over 400 times since 9-11. What's the count now? We'll never know because the Mainstream Media is ignoring this problem. We had an incident in Laredo where the local news team was interviewing the Sheriff to describe the illegal immigration problem when suddenly the news crew was surrounded by the Mexican army and the cameras were confiscated.
Fortunately, it was a live interview
- JustinCase18, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0What's worse is how often it's happened. I read an article in 2005 that said the Mexican army had crossed our border over 400 times since 9-11. What's the count now? We'll never know because the Mainstream Media is ignoring this problem. We had an incident in Laredo where the local news team was interviewing the Sheriff to describe the illegal immigration problem when suddenly the news crew was surrounded by the Mexican army and the cameras were confiscated.
- picciano, on 08/06/2008, -0/+13Armed soldiers from another country invade the United States and we take no measures to protect ourselves. Nice.
Why weren't they taken to GITMO? - tman84, on 08/06/2008, -0/+9Isn't this an act of war? I'm not a war mongering nutjob, but we really need to get our boys out of Iraq and have them patrol the borders of our country to prevent more illegal invasions of our country.
Our government ignoring this is just further proof they preparing us for the NAU.- DanThePainter, on 08/06/2008, -2/+3An innocent incursion is not an act of war. But, this should not be ignored.
- Balt, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0This is not an innoncent incursion. It has been going on for years but the mainstream press ignores it. And by the way, it is an act of war. The part of the border they crossed was clearly marked so they knew where they were. Unfortunately there is a lot of corrupt military that are escorting drug runners in and out of the US. We need to have the military on the border and it has to happen soon. The border is lawless and quickly escalating. Tom Tancredo has told President Bush about this but he has done nothing about it. I first heard about incursions about 7 years ago. Sadly it still goes on and nobody does anything about it. If the Mexican military can just walk in numerous times, what's to stop a real terrorist from crossing over. It's no wonder our border is so porous. It's a big joke to those on the other side.
- BadAshe86, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0That's like saying vandalizing our schools and removing the American flags, burning them and replacing them with a Mexican flag is a "peaceful protest."
- DanThePainter, on 08/06/2008, -2/+3An innocent incursion is not an act of war. But, this should not be ignored.
- Ricemanstm, on 08/06/2008, -0/+8One ares where BOTH PARTIES have utterly and completely failed. The Right wants the cheap labor, the Left wants the votes. Absolutely PATHETIC no matter what party you consider yourself affiliated to.
- KDX200rider, on 08/06/2008, -0/+9This kind of thing has to stop, we should use force the next time the Mexican military crosses the border. It is bad enough their citizens think they can just waltz over the border, we cannot allow their military to cross and threaten one of our border patrol officers.
- kigcoopa84, on 08/06/2008, -0/+2If this was Civilization we would be at war
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/06/2008, -0/+4Our Border Patrol agents should have shot 'em.
- JustinCase18, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Then our government would have handed them over to the Mexican government on murder charges. /s
- professor357, on 08/06/2008, -0/+8Chertoff and the Homeland Security people are trying to prevent, or at least retard, this sort of thing by building 700 miles of physical fence. He is encountering objections from compliant and complacent mayors of some U.S. border towns. They ought to be prosecuted.
We are also being assaulted on the streets of our towns and cities by the illegal criminals in our country, and people like the mayors of San Francisco and Detroit are providing "sanctuary cities", and refusing to cooperate in identifying and deporting illegal aliens who have committed violent crimes, in addition to the fact that just being in this country illegally is a crime.
Those mayors ought to be prosecuted.
The so-called leaders of this country who favor allowing illegal aliens to continue to run rampant in our streets ought to be prosecuted.
Homeland Security and ICE are stepping up raids on companies who aid and abet illegal aliens working in this country. They should be commended, and they should get more support from our government. - endgame, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3By now its quite obvious that the drug wars & extreme violence in Mexico has spilled over here to the U.S. Yet the Government continues to not protect the U.S. but would rather fight some foreign war in another country then protect it's citizens at home from this invasion. As a country we need to stop worrying so much about the terrorists in foreign lands & start protecting our own home land here in the U.S. from the massive influx of Illegal Immigration, possible terrorists from the borders, & now the Mexican military invading U.S. soil. I have said this before & I'll say it again if the U.S. was attacked by a foreign country much like it is being now in a way. The average U.S. citizen would not care one bit & only be concerned about what was on TV that night & if McDonald's would still be open. This country has become to complacent on the things that matter most, this will ultimately cause us to lose the country we once held dearly & rightly so in my opinion. -C.
http://kfyi.com/pages/local_news.html?feed=118695& ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/20080514 ...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - bluto36, on 08/06/2008, -0/+3if the feds wont do it let the states do it. if the states wont do it then let the individual border counties do it. hell let the f'ing minute men do it
- SamMcPhy, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Not even a mention of this on the MSM.
The arrest of a Soledad police officer and a Presidio of Monterey police officer last Friday while trying to smuggle firearms into Mexico didn't even get a mention (http://www.ksbw.com/news/17067587/detail.html). Yet, we hear about GITMO and our supposed human rights violations ad nauseam. Where is the MSM reporting about how these two U.S. citizens will spend a minimum of 60 to 90 days in a Mexican prison before being brought before a judge. Then, if convicted, they could face a minimum of 15 years in a Mexican prison.
These Mexican solders carried weapons into the U.S. Seems to me fair is fair and the U.S. should demand these solders be turned over to U.S. Federal agents with the understanding they shall spend 60 to 90 days in before they get any kind of hearing.
Sigh, but of course illegal alien drug smugglers get Federal Prosecutor protection to testify against U.S. border agents. Our agents go to prison while the drug smuggler continues to smuggle drugs. Sure looks Mexican drug cartels own the attorney general and federal prosecutors. At some point the manner in which the U.S. is conducting U.S./Mexican border policy is going cost Border Patrol Agent lives.- Balt, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Lou Dobbs spoke about it on CNN but he is the only one. No one else cares. It's ridiculous Lou Dobbs is the only one to expose a lot of things the MSM don't care about.
- AlbinoRaven, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Who cares.
Yet another smoke screen article. How often is it reported about US border police killing a Mexican national? Not likely in the US. In Canada we get to read about them all the time.- SamMcPhy, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Odd, you don't supply any links to back up your claim.
- AlbinoRaven, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I'd scan the Toronto Star, but I'm feeling pretty lazy. However for you I'll hunt...
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/sanchez-san-orz ...
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_10027180?source=most ...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2 ...
Then the most interesting which probably lead to the Mexican army grabbing the "border agent" which probably is one of the US soldiers posted there.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/death-as-a-w ... - skiddles, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1@AlbinoRaven :
So were ALL those links from the US??? So much for a smoke screen. None from Canada??
- AlbinoRaven, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I'd scan the Toronto Star, but I'm feeling pretty lazy. However for you I'll hunt...
- SamMcPhy, on 08/07/2008, -0/+0Odd, you don't supply any links to back up your claim.
- mcla007, on 08/07/2008, -2/+1Gee, all this outrage in a country which has 325,000+ military personnel stationed at 700+ military bases all over the world, uninvited in many cases. Talk about the beam in some people's eyes!
- infinitydl, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Please name the case in which our military personnel are "uninvited". This would be tantamount to accusing the United States of occupying those countries. If you are going to make such a claim please back it up with some fact. Do you mean Iraq? The current constitutionally elected government of Iraq; which is recognized by the UN and by all of Iraq's neighbors who are once again exchanging ambassadors; has officially requested our continued presence while hostilities wind down the Iraqi army finishes getting up to speed. This mission also as the approval of two UN resolutions which were passed last year, clearly this is not an "illegal occupation". The situation in Afghanistan is similar.
Since neither Iraq nor Afghanistan meet your argument of "uninvited occupiers" what might you be speaking of. Advisers helping the Philippine government put down Islamic radicals in the south? Humanitarian missions building schools and hospitals in Honduras or Thailand? Peacekeepers in Kosovo? The Navy suppressing piracy and helping development by keeping trade and sea lanes open off the horn of Africa? The Bases in Germany and Japan (which we proposed closing in favor of less high rent digs in smaller countries and both Germany and Japan lodged protests to keep the bases (and jobs) in their countries.
Please enlighten all of us as to where the US is "keeping troops uninvited" all over the world.
FACT: Most current US military missions and bases are governed by a Status of Forces agreement signed with the host nation which spells out the legal status and rights of both parties and their authorized representatives. Only in Iraq are we still in the process of negotiating the Status of Forces Agreement which will take effect when the current UN authorized mission end next year (yes our current ops in Iraq including the surge are sanctioned by the UN)
Just because a few of your fellow travelers around the world disagree with a US presence and use leftist agitprop to rally the uniformed and the useful idiots (as Lenin called them) doesn't take away from the fact that duly constituted authorities have approved, and in many case, requested a US presence in their country.
We are not imperialist occupiers, we are the ones trying to protect the liberty and freedom of peace-loving people from the kleptocrats, and maniacs who would do them harm!
"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm" -George Orwell- tweedius, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Such a thoughtful post and someone had the nerve to bury it without replying.
Dugg! - skiddles, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1One of the most cogent posts I have seen on digg. Sometimes I wish you could give a super thumbs up.
Another point that is often missed by those who decry American Imperialism is that just about every nation that the US has bases in sends its military personnel to the US. So if the US is an occupier, it is also occupied.
Being Australian, I occasionally run in to Australian Service-men and women who are stationed in US bases. But I am sure they are not here as occupiers.
- tweedius, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1Such a thoughtful post and someone had the nerve to bury it without replying.
- infinitydl, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2Please name the case in which our military personnel are "uninvited". This would be tantamount to accusing the United States of occupying those countries. If you are going to make such a claim please back it up with some fact. Do you mean Iraq? The current constitutionally elected government of Iraq; which is recognized by the UN and by all of Iraq's neighbors who are once again exchanging ambassadors; has officially requested our continued presence while hostilities wind down the Iraqi army finishes getting up to speed. This mission also as the approval of two UN resolutions which were passed last year, clearly this is not an "illegal occupation". The situation in Afghanistan is similar.
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