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- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -9/+211Hitler was an *****, but he was also a significant historical figure. Trying to marginalize his historicity by effectively attempting to censor most things related to him won't undo what was committed under his regime, it just makes one seem like a self-important prick.
Acknowledging Hitler's significance does not equate to glorifying him. On the contrary, educating people about who he was, what he did and what was effectively committed in his name could foster understanding and sensitivity about the issue and go at least a small way towards preventing others from repeating his wacky antics. - dudefather, on 07/05/2008, -6/+144FATALITY
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -8/+103Did he scream "THIS. IS. BERLIN." afterwards?
- AmyVernon, on 07/05/2008, -10/+98i honestly don't see what's wrong with having a wax hitler. he's a major historical figure. shouldn't people be able to see the actual face of evil?
- floejoe, on 07/05/2008, -85/+166Great, you just ripped the head off a wax statue. If that does not make you feel like a man nothing will. Here is a gold star.
Now go sign up for peacekeeping in Sudan, Zimbabwe, or even Afghanistan and make some real difference in the world and lives of others.
And the other thing is, he's 41 which means he was born in 1967, 30 years after Hitler died. What the hell does he know about WWII and how difficult it was? If this were done by an old man or lady who lived through the atrocities then I may see some psychological benefit to this.
Instead, this guy is just a douchebag. - kineticworm, on 07/05/2008, -8/+83...bring me his head!
- GorfTron, on 07/05/2008, -3/+72Perhaps he just hates wax statues...
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -4/+56We needed this guy back in 1942. Hes about 5 decades to late.
- ThePwnyExpress, on 07/05/2008, -2/+50i wanted a pic of the headless hitler...
- TheGuruStud, on 07/05/2008, -1/+48those who forget it are doomed to repeat it...
? - p47plane, on 07/05/2008, -5/+48It's Hitler, in the last days of his life, after he has lost everything he has ever worked for, everything he has cared about; soon, he's going to shoot himself in the head after swallowing cyanide. If that's not a tasteful way to display Hitler I don't know what is.
- zippe, on 07/05/2008, -9/+44put it on a platter or stake or something.
- timothycrash01, on 07/05/2008, -0/+34Those who repeat history, are doomed to forget it in the past.
- George W. Bush - jbrown101st, on 07/05/2008, -16/+49You don't know what the man's family may have gone through during World War II. Sure, he may not have been alive yet. But, does that mean he can't feel the pain of his family members that were?
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 07/05/2008, -1/+33I'm German, I despise fascism, but this is pure Hypocrisy.
Hitler was one of the worst monsters to ever roam the Earth. Madam Tussaud's (I'm not a great fan, but then, I don't have to go there) has put saints, monsters, stars and starlets on display for decades. Why not him, probably the worst of the whole bunch?
Ripping the head of a wax Hitler won't make the Holocaust go away.
Denying the past means you'll have to repeat it.
(And I'm not saying that a wax Hitler is a substitute for history lessons or a visit to the Holocaust memorial. It's just hypocritical to think that ripping of his head makes you a Good German(tm).
Urgh. Why not throw feces at the Reichstag while you're at it? - palatka, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31Hitler died in 1937?
- ThePwnyExpress, on 07/05/2008, -2/+31"Those who forget the past are doomed to forget it."...... makes sense to me.
- falafelkiosken, on 07/05/2008, -2/+28the whole debate is pretty ridiculous. it's history – if we (with that I mean the Germans mostly) keep covering and not talk about the history behind WW2 and the holocaust people are going to forget it and make the same mistakes again
- Rapter09, on 07/05/2008, -3/+28Who says he's being celebrated? It's a ***** wax statue for christ sake. The guy has been dead longer than you've been alive, and sooner than I'm willing to admit nobody will be left that can claim to remember him or his terror.
History is important, and history is neutral (to the degree that its not biased in its retelling). Hitler is apart of history. He is basically the personification of evil, and his face should never be forgotten lest we forget what members of my family died for, what members of your family died for, and what he did to the world. We should never ever forget that or try to marginalize it.
They probably needed the guards to prevent people from defacing the statue; If I want to take a damn picture with a wax statue of Hitler, none of your self-righteous ***** is going to stop me. - yosserhughes, on 07/05/2008, -0/+24No, no. History only started when the US got involved.
- Locke23, on 07/05/2008, -5/+29I would tell this man, as a Jew and as some one who will always despise any Nazi or Neo-Nazi, that commiting an act like this is pointless and will accomplish nothing more than a jail sentence or fine. Hitler, no matter what he did, is one of the most significant historical figures in the world, and rather than hate him now or commit random acts of destruction towards symbols that represent him, we must try to educate ourself the most we possibly can in order to continue growing inside the history of the world. It dosn´t matter how many heads you rip off statues or how many symbols of Nazi´s you censor, what has been done is done, so lets continue forward.
- Ebsy, on 07/05/2008, -1/+25I think he realises that
- gforce051, on 07/05/2008, -1/+24Oh, is this article from 1992?
- alapoet, on 07/05/2008, -4/+28OK, great job impersonating a clueless idiot who doesn't realize Bush has destroyed the Constitution in the name of fighting a now-dead Saddam.
So, do you do any other impersonations, or is the dumb-ass the only one in your repertoire? - valium1616, on 07/05/2008, -3/+26Everyone who had family in Germany during Hitler's time felt the pain, and they still carry the stigma of being the country that put Hitler into power. The pain of Hitler's reign is still felt as proven by the fact that it is illegal in Germany to show Nazi symbols and art glorifying Hitler.
Of course, we cannot pretend that Hitler did not exist. Hitler played a huge role in history. Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+23Stop making fun of me... im .. 5.
- dondara, on 07/05/2008, -0/+21We can't ignore all the ugly events in history. Yeah, there was a Hitler and he was a crazy bastard that killed millions. We can't ignore that, we need to acknowledge it and learn from it.
We need to make sure no other fascist ever gets a nation all riled with flag-waving patriotism, religious bigotry and suspicion of their own countrymen. That could lead down a dark path into a war of imperialism and economic ruin and ...wait, ...oh *****. - Tweets, on 07/05/2008, -1/+22There is a G.W. Bush wax figure in Madame Tussauds. So it's only a matter of time....
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+19Check his comment history, he's not doing an impersonation, he is that dumb.
- bagelmaster, on 07/05/2008, -1/+20people are really failing at math today
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+19What too soon?
- MendotaLee, on 07/05/2008, -6/+23Can't wait till I tear of Bush's head.
- ryodoan, on 07/05/2008, -10/+28Its part of history, Those who forget the past are doomed to forget it.
- digitaldivinci, on 07/05/2008, -1/+18While I in no way agree with his actions, he was an integral part of world history and a statue of him in a historical section of a German museum should be expected.
- gavinhudson, on 07/05/2008, -0/+17A little barbaric, don't you think?
It's wax. Why not make a memorial candle with it to ease tensions or something? - gryphon50, on 07/05/2008, -0/+15don't they have Vlad the Impaler at the Mme. Tussaud's in London? It's not like he was a great guy...From a historical perspective, I think they should have both heroes and villains.
- GorfTron, on 07/05/2008, -3/+18There was some candy when I was a kid that was little wax soda bottles filled with soda. We would drink them and then chew the bottle! I wonder if this guy drank from Hitler's head and then chewed it. dunno...
- superkendall, on 07/05/2008, -3/+16There are no peacekeepers in Zimbabwe (nor is there peace).
There's professional military in Afghanistan, which he is too old to join.
As for the Sudan - well I guess he doesn't feel like joining up with a bunch of people more into child prostitutes than effecting change. Any change in Darfur yet even with "peacekeepers" there? - xtinamo, on 07/05/2008, -3/+17http://slantmouth.com/articles/invasiveManuever/im ...
- supermanly, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13@ tahiri
If we forget how such atrocities begin, then we forget the signs and let such things occur. Thus, we get a Hitler in a new form. - byrdgang, on 07/05/2008, -0/+13Can I kindly ask you to stop with the MasterCard jokes? kthnxbie.
- inactive, on 07/05/2008, -1/+11As MiddleOfNowhere points out earlier in the comments, Tussaud's displays a great number of historical figures - both heroes and villains - and omitting Hitler would be hypocritical. They didn't put up a sign saying "Hey, this guy's awesome!". Instead it's just an attempt at an accurate depiction of a man who is, like it or not, a significant historical figure.
I appreciate your point of view, though, and thanks for your comment.
For the record, I'm not an American. - TrevorBelmont, on 07/05/2008, -6/+16So you found his protest to be ineffective and condemned it on the internet. You must surely see the hypocrisy of the inefficacy of your own small actions, don't you?
Your confused little post does nothing but illustrate your own shortsightedness. Unless you're posting this from Zimbabwe you are in no position to run your mouth like this.
How can you even propose that to feel strongly about one of the great horrors of modern history that you must have been there and experienced it first hand? Germans have to live in this man's shadow every day. They still bare the stigma of genocide.
People work with what they have. This man saw a monster on display as a tourist attraction and he acted on it. You have a keyboard and an internet connection so you use that. Whether or not I agree with his specific actions, I see it as childish to call a brave man of conviction a "douchebag". This just cheapens the discussion and debases your opinion. - panchro, on 07/05/2008, -4/+13Yeah, destroying some wax statue forty years after the fact is sure standing up to evil. That'll show those nazis.
- ryodoan, on 07/05/2008, -1/+10Damn, I feel like an idiot right now.
The quote was supposed to be,
"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it." - Bloodboiler, on 07/05/2008, -1/+9Rather than see the face of evil in Hitler, people should see him as just a man and then think about what he did. A life like wax figure of him among celebrity figures accomplishes that well.
As long as we deny humanity of people like him we never notice when we lift them to power. Ugly truth about us humans is that what Nazis did is hardly unique in history or in present day. There are plenty of people like Hitler in power right now. Most of us just don't care, because it's all happening elsewhere to strange other people, or because its our own lunatic that's giving orders. - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10Germans are very sensitive as millions of Germans in the east were rounded ,massacred and the survivors sent westward in a historically unprecedented exodus of peoples from the former German territories,Europe had not seen such numbers of refugees since the times of the Romans.The Russians ,Poles,Serbs and others each had their turn at murder rape and mayhem on the endless lines of German refugees from the east,revenge was brutal as the Russians moved borders and peoples... maybe surpassing the 6 million Jewish murdered,but it is never mentioned by the west as their was no sympathy for the German in 1945 and still none for today
In 1945 Berlin was a mountain of rubble its people buried underneath .
Then add decades of being ground zero for the cold war I can see why the German might be enraged at a wax dummy of Hitler.
Propped up while thousand of human bones are still buried under his wax feet - vpshockwave, on 07/05/2008, -0/+8I think you used that word just so you could correct the people you knew would try to correct you :)
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 07/05/2008, -2/+10Who said he was to be "celebrated"?
A few hundred meters away from the wax museum, there is the Holocaust memorial. The architect who was responsible for its implementation was asked what would happen if people started vandalizing.
He said (I'm paraphrasing here) that the way that the city of Berlin and Germany dealt with this vandalism would say a lot about 21st Germany - one way or another.
Smart answer.
Now the political correct way to treat the memory of monsters (and their victims) of 20th century century wars and genocides might be to put them all behind bars, in museums, in books, in safe places where only intellectuals have access.
It takes guts (and maybe a little stupidity) to exhibit the wax head of the monster in the city from where he tried to subjugate Europe.
Just sayin'. - strfiter, on 07/06/2008, -1/+8So what? Just because you disagree with something in history doesn't mean you censor it and act like it never happened or hide the forthcomings from it.
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