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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -92/+292I bet he was tortured too...
- Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -22/+180He admitted they did it to Al-Jazeera roughly 3 years ago. Did they torture him, too?
> 'Summoning every thread of experience and courage, I looked Khalid in the eye and asked: "Did you do it?" The reference to September 11 was implicit. Khalid responded with little fanfare: "I am the head of the al-Qaida military committee," he began, "and Ramzi is the coordinator of the Holy Tuesday operation. And yes, we did it."'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,906911,00.html - hcmc, on 10/12/2007, -38/+163As I understand, they left out quite a lot -- he also confessed to being Donald Trump's barber, and doing the Hindenberg, and it was his idea to push the iceberg in front of the Titanic. He also took credit for global warming, and was the executive producer of the movie Ishtar (though of course the screen credits used a pseudonym, for obvious reasons.) "I da baddest sheik ever" he said.
Now that we have him, everything should be good from now on. - Myko, on 10/12/2007, -25/+119He says he was tortured before and said a lot of things to the torturers at the time, but his confession here was not under duress (he also stated that in the report). Do you guys even read the articles?
- notmark, on 10/12/2007, -6/+91He also confessed to this when he was arrested. This was written about in the Sept. 11th Commission report. This "new" confession is to get the Attorney General off the front page.
See 4th paragraph:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/14/AR2007031402102.html - saikhan, on 10/12/2007, -20/+94So... Is the war on terror over now?
- jfpwr, on 10/12/2007, -35/+87gotta love jail house confessions... if they keep torturing him , its only a matter of time until he confesses to killing laci peterson , screwing paris hilton in that video , putting that girl in kobe bryant's room , etc
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+58To be fair, the baddest shiek ever was the Iron Shiek.
Thank god he didn't give the Camel Clutch to al-Qa'ida. - dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -8/+55If "we" includes everyone in the same block of your sanitarium, then you're correct.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -42/+89can he still think and talk after years in there?
- hmemcpy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50He looks like a tortured Ron Jeremy :)
- schlongmeister, on 10/12/2007, -6/+45No, Ron Jeremy was behind Jenna Jameson.
- bcasper1, on 10/12/2007, -23/+60i find this admission suspicious on one note. His statement according to CNN.com is "I was responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z". WHY would this guy who is probably a native to the middle east use the phrase A to Z? That is a very American thing to say. I'm American and i don't say that so why would this guy? just a thought
- jstohler, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42The 9/11 report said this guy was a compulsive credit-taker.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43a nice, timely 9/11 headline. just when the administration needs people to forget the scooter trail and the firing of federal prosecutors.
- msikma, on 10/12/2007, -64/+93@duclod: well, yes. He confessed in Guantánamo Bay. He might as well have confessed to being the mastermind behind the holocaust. Regardless of whether the report states that he wasn't being tortured for this particular confession. I personally am so strongly against a place such as Guantánamo Bay that I consider this confession null and void.
- ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36Dugg for not using the false cliche "BREAKING" in the title!
- demonotaku, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Are you new here?
- dclowd9901, on 10/12/2007, -24/+51If I was tortured to the edge of my life, I'd confess to stabbing Jesus on the cross.
This is exactly the reason that America cannot be part of torturing. At least to the extent of trying to get confessions. If torture of prisoners leads to finding Bin Laden, or stopping further attacks, then, so be it. I can live with that. - RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37I think maybe he could tell me where my car keys are.
- InfamousAtheist, on 10/12/2007, -41/+67@boredandold,
What? Who's supporting Al Quaeda?
Questioning human rights abuses =! supporting terrorism.
Thanks for parroting neocon doublespeak dude.
KSM is a terrorist. I don't support him or any other fundamentalist who wants to kill people. - edrift101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Smart comment and you are correct.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -46/+71see? torture works
watch now he will come forward with new info linking iran to 9/11 so we can attack them
and btw 'neo liberals' arent the ones supporting alquada, the CIA supports them
the CIA has supported them for over 20 years, it STILL IS.. the CIA started them, CIA assets run it.. osama was a CIA asset, also the bin ladens are family friends of the bushes.. its all a bunch of ***** guys - Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -29/+54Cue 9/11 truther denial & counterspin.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -10/+32There was a hunt for Osama?
- DeskFlyer, on 10/12/2007, -16/+38I have proof that this confession is *****, I know for a fact that he was tor- hang on, there's someone at the door.
- Madhatter73, on 10/12/2007, -14/+32And here I was thinking it was Bin Laden... uh, I mean Saddam.... uh... aw hell, maybe we'll hear it's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad next...
- thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22If he was truly tortured for this confession... don't you think they would have gotten it in less than three years????
- meshgiath, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22So far all of the talk has been about his motive being that he was tortured.... that somehow this was coerced out of him.
Consider a second possibility.
If you were an middle eastern Sunni Muslim in today's active religious-extremist climate, what nearly eternal fame would you gain in the Muslim Brotherhood community if you confessed to the killing of thousands of Americans?
He probably aided in planning the attacks, but ultimately since he didn't own up to it until now, he's a coward and he's self-centered. His concern is the fame - not what "Allah" wants. - Scrappy1850, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24did he say in his confession that he planted explosives? i only remember planes crashing into buildings. demolition rigging?
- mizzoucat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24So, Ron Jeremy was behind 9/11?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18
When another (after another) scandal rocks the White House ... like a firing of U.S. attorneys along the party loyalty lines,
The White House tactics is to use David Copperfield wave of the hand move:
"EVERYBODY LOOK OVER THERE!!! o my GOD he has confessed the 9/11!!!"
- gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30the problem is that he also confessed to more than 30 other attacks, many of which he most likely didn't have anything to do with.
Lets not forget that while it is probable that he did plan 9/11 he could also be lying for some reason, like Moussoui did.
And one guy confessing to planning the attacks does not fill in the plethera of holes in the official conspiracy. - Homunculiheaded, on 10/12/2007, -27/+41Agreed, at face value this might look like "See torture does work!" but when you look at the incredible list of things he claims to be responsible for: 1993 bombing of the World Trade Cente, 2002 bombing of a nightclub in Bali, even the freaking shoe bomber... it's painfully obvious that these are torture confessions in which the amount of dissinformation/I'll say anything you want, makes all information retrieved essentially worthless. Aside from the issues of basic human rights torture is completely worthless to actually extracting any useful information, and in fact makes things worse since you now know absolutely nothing about the truth. The only purpose of torture is to assert power, and that's a pretty pathetic reason for a powerful nation to use it against an individual.
- babaki, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30i dont know why people digged this comment down. i cant believe there are still people who believe the inside job theory. its been discredited over and over.
- farksucksmasack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19BUSH: "OMG STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO MY CRIMES!!! HERE IS SOME OLD NEWS. LOOK SHINY!!!"
- Mageant, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is an amazing guy! Let's see, from a distant, technologically underdeveloped country, with CIA and FBI hot on his heels and suspecting an imminent strike he managed to coordinate 4 inexperienced pilots all on the same day to take over 4 planes with box-cutters against pilots who were former military personnel and to go on to find and hit 75% percent of their targets while flying without radar and while completing complex maneuvers and evading the most modern air defense system on Earth over its most protected area. Indeed thus destroying an additional building that hadn't even been hit by a plane and make it appear exactly like a controlled demolition - so much in fact that it fooled experts -, too! Also, managed to hit the Pentagon at a low flying angle with something that they refuse to release 80 videos of and made Flight 93 disappear into a hole in the ground after it couldn't get to its target. All the while happening to kill a former FBI expert who had just left the FBI because of his criticsm on the government strategy against terrorism and also conveniently covering up the DoD fiasco of losing 2.3 Trillion$. All this expertly timed to happen on a day equalling to US emergency phone number and just 7 weeks after a lease had been signed on the WTC including insurance against attacks of terrorism.
Wow, this guy must be the most brilliant planer, ever! He can make better plans and execute them more flawlessy that an multi-billion-budget government organization. - kounavi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+21If i were in guantanamo, I'd confess to numerous things
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17@scrappy1850:
What are you 15 or something? Sheesh! - joe573, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20@ theblooms
Remember those pictures that came out that all those soldiers got in trouble for? The ones of the naked prisoners stacked in human pyramids and being humiliated in other ways? Yeah...thats not torture. Neither is water-boarding. Regardless of whether there is proof or not, you are completely retarded to think torture isnt happening down there. Idiot.
As far as your little quote : "Repetition is the linchpin of propaganda", look at this administration. Nobody does this better than them. - farksucksmasack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+129/10/2001 - Donald Rumsfeld "We lost 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS. OOPS"
9/11/2001 - BUSH: "MY ADMINISTRATION IS IN THE CRAPPER. OOOOOOOHHH. LOOK EXPLOSIONS! BAD PILOT! MY PET GOAT! SHINY!!!" - nasalspray, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13What they're NOT reporting is that he also confessed to be the father of Anna Nicole's baby.
- Birdoftruth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14OMG OMG Loose change
- extratwice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12classic
- D1STORT, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15I only wish that his "confession" were reliable. Fact is that he admitted to being tortured, and his confession came out during a secret military trial, the transcripts of which were released only after certain "sensitive" material was blacked-out. Sure he said that his confession was not made under duress, but he could be tortured into saying that too. It sucks that the practices of our interrogators, and the way we conduct these trials, casts such a deep shadow of doubt on the whole affair that the confession gives me no sense of closure.
- RickiBerlin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Perhaps he thought he was planning 9-11, but he's nothing but a tool. Follow the money.
The timing of this "confession" stinks beyond belief. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10He confessed to it when he was arrested.
Zero years and zero torture. - jonkeegan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10OMG! I'm so glad the government released this information in such a timely manner! I bet he confessed yesterday, and they rushed the confession out to the press ASAP!
C'mon people...ths information (as important as it is), was sat on, and just released to take the Gonzales/USAG mess off the front pages of America's newspapers...I wonder how many other important pieces of information this secretive administration is holding close to it's chest so it can alter the coverage when the media actually starts paying attention to what has been going on behind closed doors for the past 6 years.
I'm not being infinitely cynical or paranoid....no conspiracy theories here...It's been well documented how effective this administration's PR machine has been at changing the news when it isn't favorable for them...Mentioning anything about terrorism or 9/11 is amazingly effective at grabbing the top headline, and bumping whatever else is out there to the back pages.
Thankfully, the bloggers who have been doggedly following the Gonzales/USAG story since the main stream media politely passed on it early on, don't have the pressures of an editor to pull them off their reporting, just to give coverage to some important, but distracting news item the government decides to drop on the public. This kind of media manipulation will work less and less as bloggers with true journalistic creds (ie Josh Marshall of talkingpointsmemo) stay focused on the real story, and are able to eventually bring the truth to the surface. - d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I'm on the side of sanity and the Rule of Law. Which side are you on?
- DeskFlyer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Excellent observation. Thanks for the link.
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