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- username7410, on 12/04/2008, -1/+33Remember the debate of televised execution? I can't believe anybody thought that was a plausible idea. That said, imagine how many Americans would tune in to see somebody executed.
- techguru2006, on 12/04/2008, -2/+31Judging by his list of crimes, I can see why he has been put on death row.
- wynja, on 12/04/2008, -3/+29It's been two ***** decades..... How much GD time does the appeal process take these days?
- uselessexpert, on 12/04/2008, -10/+3520 years and Mr. Gray is still trying to find...hold on, let me quote: "apparently based on the premise that at some point he will identify a new legal issue or discover new evidence" upon which to appeal and that Gray "continues to delay unnecessarily."
So again, in 20 years this ***** has not found one piece of new evidence to make his case why he should not be put to death.
***** the lethal injection......FRY THAT *****! - inactive, on 12/04/2008, -9/+31He has been on the Taxpayer's backs too long. Time for payback.
- inactive, on 12/05/2008, -4/+21He plead ***** guilty to 2 murders and 5 rapes. He copped to it.
Jesus, this judge is an ass. - Pimptastic, on 12/05/2008, -0/+16from Article 120 of the UCMJ
"Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct."
Article 118 of hte UCMJ
"“Any person subject to this chapter who, without justification or excuse, unlawfully kills a human being, when he—”
(1) has a premeditated design to kill;
(2) intends to kill or inflict great bodily harm;
(3) is engaged in an act that is inherently dangerous to another and evinces a wanton disregard of human life; or
(4) is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of burglary, sodomy, rape, robbery, or aggravated arson; is guilty of murder, and shall suffer such punishment as a court-martial may direct, except that if found guilty under clause (1) or (4), he shall suffer death or imprisonment for life as a court-martial may direct.
" - siszam, on 12/05/2008, -3/+18Kasperu, if the government got the money it would only encourage them to kill for profit. They already start wars for that reason.
- mindpuzzle, on 12/04/2008, -16/+30America is captivated with the death penalty
- okyourturn, on 12/05/2008, -0/+13"Gray pleaded guilty to two murders and five rapes in a civilian court"
- uskomaton, on 12/05/2008, -0/+11Too many humans on the planet to begin with, no one would miss this one.
I'm for capital punishment for ***** like rap(e). - Leviathan433, on 12/05/2008, -0/+11On December 15, 1986, Gray abducted, raped, sodomized, and murdered Private Laura Lee Vickery-Clay, age 18. On January 3, 1987, he raped and attempted to murder Private Mary Ann Lang Nameth, age 20. Three days later, on January 6, he raped, sodomized, robbed, and murdered a civilian, Kimberly Ann Ruggles, age 23.[4]
The first victim, Private Vickery-Clay, disappeared from Fort Bragg on December 15, 1986. Two witnesses saw her at a local K-Mart with a man later identified as Gray. Vickery-Clay's car, found the next morning a block from her home, appeared to have been driven through the woods, and the driver's seat was set back farther than necessary for Vickery-Clay to drive. Three of Gray's fingerprints were found on the hood of the car. On January 17, 1987, a soldier discovered Vickery-Clay's half-naked, decomposed body in the woods in Fort Bragg. She had been raped, sodomized, and shot in the neck, forehead, chest, and back of the head. She had also suffered blunt force trauma to various parts of her body. The murder weapon, a .22 caliber pistol that Gray had stolen in November 1986, was found 60 feet from the victim's body.[4]
On January 3, 1987, Gray entered the barracks room of Private Mary Ann Lang Nameth under the pretense of needing to use the bathroom. Once inside, Gray grabbed Nameth, held a knife to her throat, and asked for her military field gear. Gray tied Nameth's hands behind her back, removed her underclothing, and raped her. Gray then stabbed her repeatedly in the neck and on the side of her body, and threatened to return and kill her if she screamed. Nameth suffered a lacerated trachea and a collapsed lung, but survived. When Gray's photograph appeared in the news following his arrest for another crime, Nameth identified him as her assailant.[4]
On the evening of January 6, 1987, Kimberly Ann Ruggles, a local taxi driver, was dispatched to pick up a passenger named "Ron" at Gray's address. In the early morning hours of January 7, military police officers on routine patrol discovered Ruggles' empty taxicab parked at the edge of the woods. Her nude body was discovered a short distance away. She had been raped, sodomized, beaten, and stabbed seven times. Ruggles' mouth was gagged with a cloth belt that matched a pair of black karate pants other police officers had found in Gray's possession hours earlier. Gray's fingerprints were on the interior door handle of Ruggles' taxi, and Ruggles' fingerprints were found on money in Gray's possession. Gray's footprints were also found at the scene of the crime.[4] - Autodidaddict, on 12/04/2008, -11/+22This guy is a scumbag and doesn't deserve to live.
Unfortunately our legal system is so flawed that anyone who does a decent amount of research should be against capital punishment.
Capital punishment costs taxpayers way more money than a life sentence. It's not a deterrent. And although it sounds like in this particular case the guy is guilty, there have been dozens of wrongfully convicted executed or at least on death row almost executed. Here's a really interesting program through Northwestern University's Law School http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfulconviction ...
Basically, if this guy is guilty I hope he is ass raped in prison every day and twice on Sunday. But most thinking and reasonable individuals should be against capital punishment. Military or civilian. - petebert, on 12/05/2008, -1/+11pay per view execution
- smotpoker1, on 12/05/2008, -3/+125 years is enough time, ***** that *****. Hangings are justice.
- Meep3D, on 12/05/2008, -1/+9So raping your own wife is ok?
- GatorUSMC, on 12/05/2008, -1/+9Don't confuse the legal system with justice.
- GammaStream, on 12/04/2008, -8/+15Your comment makes no sense.
- Jambi, on 12/04/2008, -11/+18Dear whiney *****: please keep San Francisco out of stupid crap it has nothing to do with, and in return, we'll refrain from referencing whatever backwoods ***** you're from whenever we see someone do something especially stupid.
Signed,
A San Franciscan - yosserhughes, on 12/05/2008, -0/+7I'd like to make just a few points here;
The young women are still dead, correct? Still in the ground these last 20 years while this piece of rat ***** has been breathing the same air as you and I.
The death penalty is just that: a penalty. it's not designed as a deterrent, or to rehabilitate someone, it's a penalty for doing something so heinous that society has deemed death the only suitable penalty, the phrase is "Crime and Punishment', that's what the death sentence is; a punishment.
I don't care how much more it costs than L W P, we really need to kill these vermin and not 20 years later. Catch them, try them, convict them.and then kill them.
I'll pull the switch that's not a problem, but we need to get serious about ridding ourselves of these monsters. - sdfjek, on 12/05/2008, -6/+12Wow--its clear no one actually READ the article based on these comments. The man could NOT appeal until Bush finalized his sentence. Bush pussy footed around with finalization until he made the decision to go ahead with the death penalty. Now that the man finally has an additional chance to appeal, the judge is allowing the man more time to make a new appeal.
You all are ***** confused or just retarded. lrn2readingcomprehension - ahoy, on 12/05/2008, -1/+7maybe the dude just doesn't believe in the death penalty?
- Gr1nch, on 12/04/2008, -6/+12Just for a digg barometer:
Tooky Williams, he's dead. Good or bad? I say good. - mimigins, on 12/05/2008, -0/+6And hangings are more cost-effective
- azureskies88, on 12/05/2008, -0/+6As crazy as it sounds, in the past, it was socially acceptable to rape one's own wife, as marriage suggested implied consent. Of course, rape laws are completely different today, including the UCMJ.
- shaka776, on 12/05/2008, -0/+6selling his organs...
- azureskies88, on 12/05/2008, -3/+8I don't know how many people actually read the article, but I can tell that you are not one of them. The article states that it has taken the Department of the Army (1), the Department of Defense (2), the Department of Justice (3), and the Office of the President (4) over seven years to approve the sentence. Of course, the typical response and understanding of an ignoramus would be, "lol Bush's fault."
- Murdats, on 12/05/2008, -3/+8I am thinking he may have been using a random word generator.
- AlienMushroom, on 12/05/2008, -2/+7The US judicial system is broken, since a long time ago.
- Deputy_Doodah, on 12/05/2008, -1/+6I'm glad to find someone else who opposes abortion as a birth control measure.
- GatorUSMC, on 12/05/2008, -2/+7Amazing that the people who simply file appeals because of their opposition to the death penalty (instead of the relevance to the case/innocence) would try and cite taxpayer cost. Secondly, a person sentenced to life could easily be paroled before this guy is executed. Again, the same people that bring the system to a crawl try and point out the lack of deterrent because the sentence isn't carried out in a swift manner.
This guy should have been dead and gone 15 years ago. The same for all the other parasites that society is forced to support but I'm guessing the majority of people here have zero experience with the trash. - mahler, on 12/05/2008, -2/+7How do you propose him to earn enough money to pay it all back?
- herrferret, on 12/05/2008, -0/+5Yo fo' shizzle man! don't you be hatin' on da rap.
- siszam, on 12/05/2008, -6/+10He is a bad person. Murdering him doesn't make society good. It just makes us murderers. Then we're all bad people.
- zhepp, on 12/05/2008, -0/+4A bullet to the head is even more cost effective why waste time paying someone to tie a noose
- rthakidn, on 12/05/2008, -0/+4As much as I'm sure you hate GW, he did NOT pussy foot around. The order was signed as soon as he received it. Maybe YOU should read the article. Whoops.
- TheJimid, on 12/04/2008, -5/+9Everyone deserves the right to a DNA test when it comes to capital punishment.
- PopcornDave, on 12/05/2008, -0/+4@NCSD
Well then that pretty much makes you the bottom of the foot of California.
Signed,
A San Mateoean ( which I guess makes me the nipple of California) - herrferret, on 12/05/2008, -3/+7And the money would go to the poor? Medicare? Social projects? Or would it end up being funneled away on non-bid contracts, overseas military adventures and pork-barrel spending to such an extent that the economy would be unable to survive without it?
Oh cynicism, how often are we proved correct. - Aboriginee, on 12/05/2008, -0/+4stop wasting my tax money, it doesn't take 20 f'ing years to figure out if someone is guilty or not. After that much time, there's no recovery for someone, be done with him.
- Phaedryn, on 12/05/2008, -1/+5"Are we still not allowed to say anything bad about the troops? Not even if it's just one "troop"?"
He stopped being one of the "troops" the day he was convicted. Thats true for anyone convicted by courts martial BTW. They cease being soldiers at that moment and become prisoners.
As for this guy...rape and murder two DECADES ago, and he needs MORE time? WoW... - mikelieman, on 12/05/2008, -3/+7How do you instruct OTHER soldiers that there are limits to their accepted behaviour?
I think everyone would agree that, for example, a bunch of soldiers conspiring to, and then breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night, murdering everyone in the house except for a 14 year old girl, and then gang-raping her to death is WRONG.
So, the guys who conspired, murdered a family and raped a young girl to death -- they *SHOULDN'T* be put down like the rabid animals they are?
What should happen to the Sargent who *knew* this was going to happen, but didn't stop it? He's ok, too?
Btw, the raped and murdered 14 year old girl -- her name was Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi. This isn't a hypothetical. - prleet, on 12/05/2008, -0/+3try wikipedia..link below..holy *****..this guy is a monster..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_A._Gray - hauntedchippy, on 12/05/2008, -0/+3Quote of the day
- Deputy_Doodah, on 12/05/2008, -2/+5Thanks for not falling off in the ocean yet. I don't want your hepatitis or AIDS in my seafood.
Signed,
A Georgian - drinking12many, on 12/05/2008, -0/+3Exaclty there is no suitable penalty but death in my mind. We waste to many dollars supporting these aholes... fry em and do the only justice that is worthy of these pricks
- Knowltey, on 12/05/2008, -1/+4Is the judge Sergeant Buzzkill?
- pathouston22, on 12/05/2008, -0/+3While Abu Ghraib was wrong, it doesn't hold ***** to many things in the history of this world, and things still today, done by other countries than America.
- pathouston22, on 12/05/2008, -3/+6Damn right. People who kill on purpose and not in self-defense don't deserve to live. Don't waste my tax money feeding and housing those losers.
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