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Judge bans Bible from school

worldnetdaily.com — A district judge's ruling could be used to allow distribution of the Quran, but specifically censors the Bible under the district's open forum policy that is content-neutral.

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rightwingattila, on 06/28/2008, -9/+19And you expected what my friend? And so it continues, can't wait for the END! COME LORD JESUS, COME!
- Equinox2012, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2I am your God now... What do you want, I'm very busy.
RecordKeeper, on 06/28/2008, -6/+19We have already seen that when you take God out of our children's schools that Satan runs right In.
alanhlake, on 06/28/2008, -6/+12And the judge is being impeached, right?
- KJeffV, on 06/28/2008, -4/+9Perhaps not, but he will most certainly be judged himself . . . by an Unimpeachable Authority.
JimmySpaza, on 06/28/2008, -9/+11What kind of leftist, anti-Christian judge is this? She has zero knowledge of the Constitution, its equal application, nor the history of America. Impeach her immediately. Today! NOW!

Oh, and then make her take a 1st Amendment sensitivity course for one year and write a 50 page report (single spaced, 1/4" margins) on how the Founding Fathers wanted Christian values to be instilled in ALL forms of government.
- Equinox2012, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2She's a smart judge who knows that God is not an active force on this earth and when you add God to any equation nothing changes.
jesusis1, on 06/28/2008, -5/+7It would not surprise me if this judge is in church every Sunday all pius and humble. Yet, she supports the Anti Christian Litigation Union. Hypocracy at the highest!
cnsrvatv, on 06/28/2008, -8/+10The Word of God is powerful even when not being read! The mere thought and sight of the Bible causes many to become nervous and scurry around like a bunch of cockroaches. We know how it ends! Glory to God!
- SOLGAARD, on 06/28/2008, -2/+6Perhaps not a 'keen' observation, but solid in TRUTH, nonetheless.
MarineVeteran1, on 06/28/2008, -7/+10This matter is easily solved. All parents should put a Bible in their child's hand before the school day starts and walk them into the classroom with it in their hand. I ask you, is the school going to have them all arrested? I think not. And if they try to remove the Bible from their hands, simply walk out of the classroom all at once. Folks, we weren't afraid to do this in the crazy 60's and the 70's, get with it! They WILL stop their nonsense if they have no students attending. Their government thugs can't control us all.

My religious rights are not up grabs or to be obstructed by some black robed moron hell bent on his/her interpretation of a letter from T. Jefferson to the Danbury Church. If it doesn't SPECIFICALLY SAY in the U.S. Constitution or State law that I personally CAN'T do something, then the State or the Federal government must yield because legally their powers are limited. Naturally those laws are null and void when it comes to my inalienable RIGHTS.

Want to keep your rights? You'd better fight for them...because you are nothing more than a damned 'subject' to the tyrannical king on the bench.
michael43, on 06/28/2008, -9/+10The persecution of Christians will increase dramatically in the days to come. Keep the faith, our Lord will prevail, and *my own thoughts are that it will not be long*, but regardless of when he comes he told us how he would. Like a thief in the night, so be ready and observe the signs you see everyday, our Lord has never lied, and he will come, maybe sooner than you think.
Nannybell, on 06/28/2008, -7/+7We need to start doing something about being required to pay taxes for these public schools that discriminate against the religion of the children who attend the schools, but on the other hand the schools promote secular humanism which is anathema to the religion of the children. That is a violation of our freedom of religion. It's the same as if atheists were required to pay taxes to support a Baptist church, and/or if their children had no choice but to attend a Baptist school to get an education. Many people in this country have no choice but to send their children to public school for economic reasons.
- angelbear44, on 06/28/2008, -3/+4This is a very good idea...I never thought about that. Maybe there is some way that taxpayers can put the clamps on the schools and the judges! Who pays the judges salaries? I am sure it is the taxpayers. Schools now a days are NOT about learning, but about who can win the agenda! It isn't what is best for our kids, it is what is best for all these groups who think they are being discriminated against. It just makes me so sick to see where our country is headed!!!!!!!
- Equinox2012, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1Lucky for us it doesn't work that way. People without kids have been trying to get out of paying for public schools for decades... it is the curse of living in a society. You pay for many things that you will never use.
lodibug3, on 06/28/2008, -7/+7Until we hold these ....using the term loosly...."judges"... accountable to their OATH in which they swear to UPHOLD the Constitution, we will continue to be at their mercy. Jesus isn't going to come sweep us away and rapture us out of this mess. We're here to FIX it, and Fix it we must.
LifeguardMom, on 06/28/2008, -8/+6The Bible was once read every day in school. I even took a "Bible as Literature" class in high school, back in the dark ages of the 1970s.

Get your kids out of public school before it's too late!
angelbear44, on 06/28/2008, -8/+6Correct my thinking if I am wrong, but aren't judges only supposed to UPHOLD the law, NOT make them? Where do these judges get off changing the constitution for what ever agenda they are for? Oh, that's right we now have the ALMIGHTY ACLU who are supposed to be for peoples rights...YEA right, unless you are a christian!!!!!!!!!!! People you better start speaking up & doing something about the ACLU or pretty soon we won't even be able to speak the name of God, Jesus or Holy Spirit! This country is getting as bad as Sodom & Gomorrah because of the ACLU!!! Thank God that he is so merciful!
- DuggDowner, on 06/28/2008, -4/+9You are an absolute moron. Take your nose out of the bible and read some nonfiction:
  
  http://www.aclu.org/religion/govtfunding/26526res2 ...
  
  The ACLU has defended the rights of religious wackos like you to protest abortion clinics, wear pro-life shirts in school, wear crosses in schools and even defended the rights of Chistmas carolers.
  
  The ACLU has done more to defend Christianity than you will ever do. If America needs to be saved from anything it's uneducated fools like you.
eir574, on 06/28/2008, -3/+8This is just shocking. WND has left out critical information yet again. For those interested in the actual ruling to which they refer, see http://www.aclu-em.org/downloads/southiron010808in ... (warning: pdf). The reason the ruling applied specifically to the bible was that the court of appeals was asked to review an injunction stopping the school district from engaging in the specific activity of distributing bibles. This injunction in no way implies that it's okay to pass out other religious texts in class.

Furthermore, this entire legal process began when the school was permitting an outside group to hand out bibles to fifth graders during class time, not during non-instructional time.

I see absolutely nothing in the ruling about allowing the ACLU or any third party to veto distribution of religious material in the schools. Is WND just making that up? The ruling does mention that no notice is provided to the plantiffs, i.e. the parents of the students. That's it. WND is distorting the facts . . . again.
ssn697, on 06/28/2008, -2/+9Buried for purposely skewing the story.
- Equinox2012, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2It's WeirdNutDaily... they always skew the story.
10QGZus, on 06/28/2008, -3/+6I love those who make it a practice to digg down anything Christian, conservative, religious, pro-life, pro-family values...... anything our country was founded upon. Some people need to get a life!
djmdjm, on 06/29/2008, -5/+5eir574- I read your download. What I find shocking is what WND has written but this word that is stated over and over in that court brief. That word would be "illegal" Is there any state or federal law that makes what they were doing during the class hours for those 30 years "illegal?" In other words did the elected state representatives pass a law making this activity "illegal?" Well I think you know the answer to that question. You see we contend that what the court did is and always will be illegal under our form of Govt and Constitution. Just because they have gotten away with it for a half a century now doesn't change the fact that it is lawless behavior, it is illegal. Was the dred scott decision and others like it "legal," and the law of the land for a century? You should be able to answer #%^^$# no it was not legal. But then the only thing that made it legal was that a large minority of wicked ignorant men giving those decisions the power of law through intrigue, coercion and manipulation for their own selfish ends. It might open your eye's a little to see the state constitutions that were written by the same,me men who wrote the federal one and it's bill of rights. Four states absolutely established general Christianity as the official religion of the state. Look at them your self: The amendments are highlighted so you don't have to search for them yourself. The bill of rights were written to protect the states and the people of those states from the Federal Govt. not visa versa. It was written to protect the States from exactly what this judge is doing. If not how can most of these state constitutions require that you be a christian to hold office and much more than that.

http://wordservice.org/State%20Constitutions/usa10 ...
- eir574, on 06/29/2008, -2/+8The only thing that matters is whether the state in question. Missouri, allows distribution of religious material to children during class in public schools. If you are upset that case law prohibits distribution of religious material, then you could work to change the law. I wonder, though, how you'll manage to make sure that only religious material promoting Christianity is permitted.
  
  You may also want to take a look at Torcaso v Watkins (1961), in which the supreme court unanimously deemed Maryland's religious test to be unconstitutional. This made religious tests required for holding public office in other states unconstitutional.
  
  Besides, once you give power to the state to establish an official religion, you give it the power to determine whether your religious beliefs are suitable. Any government entanglement in religion weakens your own right to believe as you see fit. The founding fathers knew that. See James Madison's Memorial and Remonstrance (http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/ ... ). I can't imagine why you'd want the government deciding how to teach religion to your children.
  - DavidHalko, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1eir574 --- "Besides, once you give power to the state to establish an official religion, you give it the power to determine whether your religious beliefs are suitable."
    
    I agree with you, to some extent.
    
    This is an issue for legislature to deal with, not a judge.
    
    The U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights has the Establishment Clause, which identifies Congress as the government body to restrict the power of, not the State or Local Governments.
    
    My issue is with Activist Judges, who take away rights of Citizens.
  - eir574, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5@DavidHalko,
    
    The judge is interpreting the law and judicial precedents. Did you read the decision? How exactly was the judge's decision not in line with state and federal law, the federal constitution, the state constitution, and judicial precedent?
    
    I'm not sure what your point about the establishment clause is. Are you saying that state and local governments have no right to enforce the establishment clause? You are correct that the first amendment originally applied only at the federal level, but the 14th amendment changed that.
    
    Is it the right of a citizen to walk into a fifth grade classroom and distribute religious materials to children who are required to be there and whose parents received no advance notice that such an event would be taking place? Would your opinion change if the religious material were not Christian in nature?
grahamjj, on 06/29/2008, -3/+5Up to 1947 Texas used bible verses to teach children how to read. Over 80 court cases have found the U S to be a Christian nation with all denomination standing on equal footing. Not until the Warren court in the 1960 struck down pray in public schools without siting a single court precedent was it ever questioned America is a Christian nation. In the 1960 that all changed.
I think this happened due to the communist ACLU's work from 1945 to 1960. Bibles were banned pray expelled from school (Engel v Vitale and Stone v Graham) America turned its back offically on God. Time magazine declared 'God is Dead" and we have suffered ever since.
SOLGAARD, on 06/29/2008, -1/+2When this nation was just starting-out, you couldn't gain ANY office, without declaring fealty to the Messiah.

No-wait, (that must be a lie, because a Christian said it)-lol
- SOLGAARD, on 06/30/2008, -1/+0Perhaps, that is all we should continue to ELECT
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