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- WordsnCollision, on 01/14/2009, -2/+73Not Jill, Kelly... Kelly Ripa!
- slifty, on 01/15/2009, -1/+59A guy named Jill? No wonder he was pissed.
- TouchingWood, on 01/14/2009, -0/+40Could it have been Jack AND Jill? That would really give some kids some nightmares. No more innocently "going up the hill"
- Ddraig, on 01/14/2009, -1/+32All of this seems a tad like speculation... he did construct a partial profile and based on this analysis, he said, "it's possible the Ripper could be female".
I know you can get DNA from anything but why haven't we heard anything about this "New" technique he is using elsewhere? Maybe I just missed it. - WoWii, on 01/15/2009, -2/+27Another power user ***** story.
***** you Msaleem - DickyT83, on 01/15/2009, -1/+25Oh they went up the hill alright, to fetch a pail of prostitutes.
- yocouchdigga, on 01/14/2009, -2/+24it's elementary, my dear Watson, Jack was no "Jack "at all. In fact... Jack was a Jill, with a penis and she was quite upset about this.
- headingeast, on 01/15/2009, -0/+15Whatever the technique, it's not new anymore
article was posted on Thursday, 18 May 2006 . - rickrossin, on 01/15/2009, -0/+14"The results were 'inconclusive' and not forensically reliable, but he did construct a partial profile and based on this analysis, he said, 'it's possible the Ripper could be female.'"
So what we have here is an obscure, partial (whatever that means) profile based on non-reliable and inconclusive evidence.
What nonsense. - KokomoNYC, on 01/15/2009, -1/+13They must've been real angry about that pail of water.
- hydroplane, on 01/14/2009, -0/+12Preposterous!
- 18000rpm, on 01/15/2009, -0/+12Where's the joke
- inactive, on 01/15/2009, -1/+12I doubt it.
Evidence points to Jack having a surgical background. A female having that sort of education, training and practice in those times is awfully rare. - hooah212002, on 01/15/2009, -0/+10THAT is my motive behind the time machine in my basement...dirt cheap hookers.
- alexacastro, on 01/15/2009, -1/+11Gives new meaning to "jilling off"
- thegamingguy, on 01/14/2009, -1/+11Makes sense, maybe being a woman she was able to lure her victims in with charm. On the flipside, just because someone was seen running around in the woman victim's clothes does not automatically mean it was a woman.
- celotil, on 01/15/2009, -0/+9I think you give too much credence to a steady hand and an intuition with a knife.
Think about the phrase "surgical precision" and how it related to the 1880's.
It's likely that anyone with experience in a slaughterhouse working on pigs and an innate sense of the human form might have gone after the first victim with a certain goal in mind, found their supposition to be correct in how the organs are laid out, and then gone on to "investigate" other people's internals.
Even the cliché of a doctor today only includes the steady hand and a certain manner of appearance - note I said cliché. - RichMUrrills, on 01/15/2009, -0/+9What a load of old bollocks. Could that story have been any more vague? "Jack the ripper may have been a woman". Yeah, well, that hooker I had in Phuket MAY have been a man, it's hardly news!
- dudefather, on 01/15/2009, -0/+9CSI: 19th century London
"Looks like she's been gutted sir"
"Something about this case seems a little..(sunglasses)...fishy" - reyoo30309, on 01/15/2009, -0/+8Maybe she was angry because all of the more attractive prostitutes stole all her business.
- inactive, on 01/15/2009, -0/+8The idea that Jack had surgical skill is a myth, based on the comments of one doctor.
Others opine that he could equally well have simply had experience as a slaughter man - of animals, that is.
In reality, Jack madly hacked open the abdomens of his victims and searched around until he found the tough, gristly cervix or kidneys and hacked away at them for trophies. His last victim was simply dismembered like a mannequin. No surgical skill was required for any of this, just a vague knowledge of where organs were situated and a sick urge to hack apart women. - EGOvoruhk, on 01/15/2009, -0/+7It makes sense. Who better to ruin men's fun with prostitutes, than a woman?
- roctimo, on 01/15/2009, -0/+7So it's a gaggle of geese, a pride of lions, and a pail of prostitutes. Thanks for clearing that up.
- passedoutghost, on 01/15/2009, -0/+7They were prostitutes. All they needed to enter a dark alley with a stranger were a few pennies
- ashura001, on 01/15/2009, -0/+7When she killed, she would yell "For the whored!"
- travis6690, on 01/15/2009, -2/+9Nobody cares anymore.
- Swift2, on 01/15/2009, -0/+6I like the story that it was a member of the Royal Family. Better novel out of that.
But my favorite current British crime story -- and I think it's true -- is that Dr. Crippen, the "monster" who carved up his wife and hid him in the basement, the buy who was the first OJ, with the newspapers going wild and him getting caught on an ocean liner -- that this guy, was probably innocent, because of DNA evidence -- and would certainly be found innocent today, because the evidence was trumped up.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art ... - EeeJ, on 01/15/2009, -1/+7I'd butcher her.
- Crimsoneer, on 01/15/2009, -0/+6"but he did construct a partial profile and based on this analysis, he said, "it's possible the Ripper could be female"."
It is also possible the Ripper could be male. - wpc33, on 01/15/2009, -0/+6And he said: "Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you str...Oh, *****... - mkoranda, on 01/15/2009, -0/+5"it's possible the Ripper could be female" is a true statement even without any further testing at all. In fact it has a 50% chance of being right which is probably better than any of this new "evidence". I guess I'm saying you have a better chance of being right by guessing!
- spookyttws, on 01/15/2009, -0/+5Very cool. And although I feel lame relating this to a TV show, it sounds like an episode of 'Bones'. I really didn't know what forensic anthropologists worked on in a real life, day to day case. And I'm sure this is a rare case but it's quite interesting.
- wannarto, on 01/15/2009, -0/+5I would prefer "Jennifer the Ripper"
- TheOtherOne135, on 01/14/2009, -1/+6Seems odd that he comes up with this new technique, and uses it not for something that could have relevant results but to check into this old story. We'll see whether he ever uses this technique in a situation where someone could verify the accuracy of his results.
- passedoutghost, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4You also willing to catch whatever diseases that they had? Also keep in mind that a ninethenth century one pound note is worth a fortune now.
No, I'd probably use the time machine to go back in time and terrorise people with modern weapons, get some artefacts, come back to the present, sell the artefacts, THEN I'd go get some clean prostitutes. Preferably blonde with big *****. - roctimo, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
- cfuse, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4and it's not like they'd fit in the bucket whole.
- WiretapStudios, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4Sometimes it can be...murder
- passedoutghost, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4I actually did a 2500 word essay on Jack the Ripper for Extension History. I even emailed Ian Findley. Unfortunately he was probably too busy/too important to reply. Any way the new technique was based on determining the mitochondrial DNA of the samples. mtDNA "lasts" longer than DNA but the "flaw" is that mtDNA is passed down maternally and a wide range of people have similar mtDNA. Don't quote me on this though, because I did all the research in high school and since then I've killed a few brain cells due to copious amounts of alcohol. I can't even remember how to do high school maths anymore.
- passedoutghost, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4The "new" technique is 2 years old. Also the samples may not have actually been from Jack the Ripper.
- inactive, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4The theory that Jack the Ripper was a woman is as old as the murders themselves, it was first suggested by Inspector Abberline after the Kelley killing, and was published as an hypothesis in 1959.
There is zero evidence to back it up other than its apparent controversial nature.
There were witnesses who supposedly saw Jack, or at least someone who was with the victims minutes before they died, and these descriptions are all of men.
The weakness in the present theory is that the researcher assumes that letters sent to police from 'Jack' were in fact genuinely from him. As this article admits, most of those letters were frauds, some notably made by newspapermen as a means to getting more salacious elements to sell papers. Of the other few, none can be conclusively proven to be from the actual murderer, even though some researchers may claim that they are genuine there is no actual proof of that. That is a huge hole in the theory and one that undermines it completely. - cubicz, on 01/15/2009, -0/+4In 2002, crime novelist Patricia Cornwell, in Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper - Case Closed, presented her theory that Sickert was responsible for the murders, one of the motivating factors being a defect in his penis. Cornwell purchased 31 of Sickert's paintings and destroyed one or more of them searching for his DNA.She said eventually she was able to scientifically prove that the DNA on a letter written by the Ripper and one written by Sickert belong to one per cent of the population. Sickert specialists viewed Cornwell's theory with derision.
- sharpiemarker, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3Unfortunately the CSI - Miami's have given us a bad image of forensic science. It's not possible to get DNA off of everything. If there isn't a sufficient quantity of a sample we can't do anything. Also I imagine Jack/Jill the ripper probably aren't registered in any database so the best you could get out of DNA evidence would be a gender. I imagine someone researching the case has probably already thought about/tried searching for DNA evidence.
- clyde2801, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3ARRRGGGHHH!!! MY EYES!!!! MY EYES!!!!
DAMN YOU, MARLEYMAR!!! DAMN YOU!!!!! - WiretapStudios, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3Well it IS torture having sex with her...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6VLEL1o5GQ - cfuse, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3That's one angry tranny.
- Taiyoryu, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3Since they have the letters, have they done handwriting analysis? Writing styles are definitely influenced by gender. How hard is it to look at the 'i's and 'j's and see if they're dotted with hearts?
- elmundio87, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3fake, none of the victims were murdered in the kitchen
- burketo, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3whart a terrible article. not only is it 2 and a half years old, but the evidence was inconclusive and he only said it's possible jack was a woman, not even thaty there was decent evidence for it. there is literally nothing in that.
i would imagine it would be harder for a woman to kill prostitutes, certainly after the first one. they were wary enough going down alleys with men let alone some random woman.
buried. - Zizhou, on 01/15/2009, -0/+3On the other hand, I don't think there is much historical evidence that chainsaws, magical or otherwise, were ever involved in the killings.
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