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- acrodev, on 01/06/2009, -16/+134Guess who sold them cluster bombs? It starts with us.
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -4/+75Lol "sold".
Your taxes paid for them. - laudyms, on 01/05/2009, -37/+105If one needs any proof that the Israeli invasion is cynical and ruthless, this should do it. Their policy is a continuous land grab by murderous means.
- ha3er0, on 06/16/2009, -13/+79Due to recent interest on middle east crisis there has been a lot of articles submitted with similar interest/news from different sources.
Why this is not a duplicate news IMO:
1) Not a blog spam
2) Source from Israeli press as opposed to non-Israeli sources. It gives more credibility to the news who has opposite views.
3) Focus is on the tactics of attack (cluster bomb) not the war itself.
4) Didn't make front page to the best of my knowledge.
Image to possible duplicate stories: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/3171080271_b6e ... - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -29/+88Israel is so used to getting its own way by invoking the Nazi Holocaust that they are now upset that people don't see things their way even as they slaughter hundreds of innocent people.
This is not a conflict, it is a turkey shoot. Kids in the sealed off city being blown to bits in their classroms, whole familys being wiped out, while then we see Israeli TV showing a few people surrounding a hole in the pavement crying because a rocket put a hole in it, while the usual Israeli army guy walks past all the neatly assembled cameras holding what they say is the actual rocket shell. It is so one-sided that it would be funny if it were a fiction-based movie.
So America, please stop funding the Israeli military. Every year the US taxpayer foots the multi-billion dollar bill for this. - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -2/+46Yeah that's true. But only because it's against international law to simply give them.
It's like a tax evasion scheme only they evade international law. - chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -2/+40Technically they are sold.
We give them the money, they give it back to us when they "purchase" the weapons and ammunitions. - Smogtdi, on 01/07/2009, -22/+59by the way, 1 week ago the tv was showing videos taken at night and it was CLEAR they used clster bombs; we could see the main bomb split in dozen of smaller projectiles.
I HOPE kids won't go out and play with it.
to me I found it CRIMINAL to use that kind of weapon. as CRIMINAL as the use of depleated uranium ammo.
Shame on you USA; you sold that crap to Israel - Fieldyza, on 01/07/2009, -10/+44ermm... did the USA Sell or Give them Cluster bombs?
Bush was giving them money so, they must have been "given" to them. - pintomp3, on 01/07/2009, -14/+47This is disgusting. Not the first time either:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5299938.stm
There was a bill to ban cluster bomb use in civilian areas:
http://www.forward.com/articles/back-bill-to-ban-c ... - yacinebouatrous, on 01/07/2009, -8/+40here is why they're launching rockets :http://flickr.com/photos/yimss_sindhu/2727205441/s ...
And her is why Israelis don't belong in Palestine, and the myth of "it's our land":
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html
Quote:
"This was 1,815 years ago, and yet the Jews solemnly pretend they still own Palestine! If such fantasy were allowed, how the map of the world would dance about!
Italians might claim England, which the Romans held so long. England might claim France, "homeland" of the conquering Normans. And the French Normans might claim Norway, where their ancestors originated. And incidentally, we Arabs might claim Spain, which we held for 700 years.
Many Mexicans might claim Spain, "homeland" of their forefathers. They might even claim Texas, which was Mexican until 100 years ago. And suppose the American Indians claimed the "homeland" of which they were the sole, native, and ancient occupants until only some 450 years ago!
I am not being facetious. All these claims are just as valid—or just as fantastic—as the Jewish "historic connection" with Palestine. Most are more valid." - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -6/+36Israel is committed to swing your opinion by any means necessary
look up Megaphone hasbara or check helpuswin.org - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -14/+44Israel tries to claim the moral high ground but uses weapons like cluster bombs which have been banned by most countries because of the amount of civilian casualties they cause.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-munition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_Cluster ... - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -4/+30Anti-Israel is not anti-semitism.
- Smogtdi, on 01/07/2009, -20/+46We should stop giving money to Israel...
on wait....
we are *****..
all our media/gov/corporations are Israel sympatisants
so forget about it; Palestinians are doomed - Ellipsys, on 01/07/2009, -3/+27Totally ***** unacceptable, but unfortunately not unprecedented. They did this against Lebanon a couple of years ago and were censured by the UN for doing so - http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=19670 ... . There is no reason at all to use cluster munitions on such a densely packed, civilian environment. This is barbarism, plain and simple. All civilized nations have agreed not to use cluster munitions in civilian-populated areas because of the potential for a large percentage of the bomblets to remain undetonated on impact. This leads to a situation similar to land mines, where civilians find and are maimed or killed by unexploded ordinance weeks, months, or years after the actual conflict has ceased. Once again, Israel shows complete disregard for measured response, or even the conventional rules of engagement when fighting against what? Not a heavily armed and armored enemy superpower, but a bunch of guys making rockets out of old trash cans and blasting caps and throwing rocks at tanks when those fail. When will we stop supporting these sorts of war criminals? If Israel is trying to convince the world that they're any different than the supposed "terrorists" they are fighting against, they need to stop this *****.
- richmomz, on 01/07/2009, -14/+38Number of Innocent Israelis killed by Hamas rocket attacks since 2002: 19
Number of Innocent Palestinians killed by the IDF YESTERDAY ALONE: 77+ - rmokhtar, on 01/07/2009, -4/+28Wiini,
because Israel had a massive PR campaign to stomp the truth and make sure everyone is brainwashed to their version, and now there are pro-Zionists all over Digg trying to justify 670 deaths.
From http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/02/israel ...
"Israeli officials have also enjoyed a clear edge with coverage. An Israeli foreign ministry assessment of eight hours of coverage across international broadcast media reported that Israeli representatives got 58 minutes of airtime while the Palestinians got only 19 minutes. Speaking for the Israeli military, Major Avital Leibovich said: "Quite a few outlets are very favourable to Israel, namely by showing [it] suffering ... I am sure it is a result of the new co-ordination."" - AndrewMoyer, on 01/07/2009, -3/+26International law? We (the USA) don't follow any silly international laws, why should we expect anybody else to?
*sigh* - ikeeel4money, on 01/07/2009, -15/+37"And I write the following without the slightest doubt: we'll hear all these scandalous fabrications again. We'll have the Hamas-to-blame lie – heaven knows, there is enough to blame them for without adding this crime – and we may well have the bodies-from-the-cemetery lie and we'll almost certainly have the Hamas-was-in-the-UN-school lie and we will very definitely have the anti-Semitism lie. And our leaders will huff and puff and remind the world that Hamas originally broke the ceasefire. It didn't. Israel broke it, first on 4 November when its bombardment killed six Palestinians in Gaza and again on 17 November when another bombardment killed four more Palestinians."
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/ ...
How long can a lie last? - benighted, on 01/07/2009, -5/+25IDF used White Phosphorus rounds too
- Wiini, on 01/07/2009, -9/+28It's interesting how on some Digg articles on the front page regarding Israel Digg users are all pro-Israel saying "WoooO!! gO Israel!" for the first 50 comments, and on other digg articles, it's "Boo to Israel! Shame Shame Shame!".
- chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -1/+19As long as the media continues to propagate the lies and deceit, the masses will gobble it up like a spoon-fed baby.
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -10/+28***** them, they are doing the same ***** to the Palestinians that the Nazis did to them back in the 30's and 40's.
- theShadow51, on 01/07/2009, -5/+22Israel is immune to any international law or the Geneva accords so what cluster bombs they couldn't drop in the countryside of Lebanon in 2006, they are using now. good job! how many civilians is enough. Hamas is only worsening a situation that is already a complete ***** pile.
600 deaths, thousands wounded.
Wake up and protect those who have no voice. - Obermeister, on 01/07/2009, -4/+21It's sad that you need to go to an Israeli paper to read things critical of Israel. Certainly you'd never see that in our "free" press here in the US.
- tgc1, on 01/07/2009, -2/+19Isn't that against UN treaties?
- IphtashuFitz, on 01/07/2009, -3/+20Sorry, but this is one time I agree with the majority in condemning the use of these weapons. The long term effects can be staggering:
* In Vietnam, people are still being killed as a result of cluster bombs and other objects left by the US and Vietnamese military forces. Estimates range up to 300 people killed annually by unexploded ordnance.
* During the 1999 NATO war against Yugoslavia U.S. and Britain dropped 1,400 cluster bombs in Kosovo. Within the first year after the end of the war more than 100 civilians died from unexploded British and American bombs. Unexploded cluster bomblets caused more civilian deaths than landmines.
* Israel used cluster bombs in Lebanon in 1978 and in the 1980s. Those weapons used more than two decades ago by Israel continue to affect Lebanon. During the 2006 war in Lebanon Israel dropped around 1,800 cluster bombs on Hezbollah-controlled areas.
All this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-munition - MalarkeyPN, on 01/07/2009, -1/+17I think the US gives Israel 3 billion dollars a year, then they turn around and use much of that money to buy weapons from us.
- nils, on 01/07/2009, -16/+32Thje problem in Israel is that neither Hamas nor the Israeli gov't want peace. Both thrive on fearmongering. I wish the population on BOTH sides would finally rise up and say "we had enough, let's make peace now".
Hey a geek can dream, right? - feanix, on 01/07/2009, -6/+22Hatred begets hatred.
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -5/+20You said "Egypt gets almost as much as Israel"
U.S. Aid to Egypt ~ $1 Billion/year
http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/features/egypt/
Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, ~$3 Billion/year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-United_States_ ...
So, you sir are full of *****. - pintomp3, on 01/07/2009, -4/+19http://digg.com/users/israeligirl
who is a founder of
http://www.giyus.org/
which wrote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_too ... - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -4/+17excellent post
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -0/+13The money we give to Egypt is for Israel's benefit. We pay Egypt not to get involved in the Israel/Palestine struggle; i.e., not to help the Palestinians.
Israel doesn’t want Gaza to have free flowing commerce; as their goal is to completely close all of Gaza’s borders and make life so miserable that they’ll all just leave.
If Egypt were to open their border with Gaza and allow commerce to flow, Egypt would be moved to the TOP of Israel's/US's "terrorist" hit list, ahead of Iran. - chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -3/+15Partly right. We have been giving them $2.3 billion annually. Not loaning, GIVING.
They then take those funds and "pay" for the weapons they purchase. In 2009, that amount will INCREASE to $3 billion.
If you think any of this will change with the inauguration of Barack Obama, you will be sadly mistaken. - Uthman, on 01/07/2009, -0/+12Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes.
http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
We are giving Israel about $10 Million a DAY, compared to the ~70Million per YEAR given to the Palestinians (Read--one week of Israeli funds). Quite disproportionate if you ask me.
I want to open this up as a discussion on digg because I am not familiar with due process of law; suppose that we, the citizens of the US, wanted to propose a new bill which would limit the amount of foreign aid to Israel to something more reasonable -- say 50% of what it currently is. The remaining 50% would be split evenly over Education, Healthcare and Tax-Cuts. What would be the procedure to go about making such a change? - Tanktunker, on 01/07/2009, -1/+13the US gives Israel roughly 2.4 Billion a year (It also gives Egypt 1.7, and Jordan 0.7 a year), some 75% of that is spent on American military supplies, and the rest is spent on buying military supplies from France, Germany etc.
In return, Israel doesn't develop military aircraft (like the IAI-Lavi) that directly compete with American exports, among other things.
It also gives you mounds and mounds of political pressure that you routinely apply whenever there's a major conflict in the region.
In short, you are paying us off to not mess with your military exports (which I think are in the hundreds of billions of dollars per year), and to keep ***** quiet here. - bigjado, on 01/07/2009, -6/+17"it takes two to tango"
and by "choose peace" I assume you mean "accept the unfair and inhumane living conditions imposed on them" - thaprinze, on 01/07/2009, -2/+13The most ***** up thing now is all of our tax money is going to greedy corporations via bailouts and to Israel to support mass murders, yet we can't do anything about either. WTF ever happened to "No taxation without representation?!!" I don't ever recall anyone asking me if it's okay to give my hard earned money to these things.
- oldhick, on 01/07/2009, -6/+17Right because we control access to Canada... We're continually expanding our northern border into their territory. Perfect analogy.
- EnigmaOX, on 01/07/2009, -10/+21tell that to the 400 thousand Israeli settlers in the west bank.. I'm Israeli Palestinian and I'm sick of propaganda
- pintomp3, on 01/07/2009, -5/+14Clear fields of land mines? The un-exploded bomblets become land mines.
- slyzxx, on 01/07/2009, -3/+12I really feel bad for civilians for both sides in the end they are the only ones who suffer by loosing their children, families and homes.
- rmokhtar, on 01/07/2009, -0/+9I am an Arab, Maxwell. Let's assume you're right for a moment, the this 'hate' is inherent in all Arabs.
Tell me, how did the Muslim Arabs, together with the Jews and Christians (Arab and non-Arab), live in Muslim Spain and created a culture of tolerance, advanced science, mathematics, philosophy, medicine, astronomy, etc?
Tell me, how is that there are still Jews that exist in most of the Arab if the Arabs were out to destroy them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUFLpP9Prxo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43Ws3kQsV8&NR= ...
Of course, you don't have to take my word or Galloways' words on the subject.
Read a book, like say this one:
The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews and Christians created a culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain, by Maria Rosa Menocal.
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=iDDhaR9 ... - martalli, on 01/07/2009, -2/+11Tyman - Excuse me, but the Palestinians in Israel were there before the Israelis. You can call the land what you like, but it doesn't change the history.
- jfreeman, on 01/07/2009, -7/+16Bombing homes and mosques? Are there really no military targets?
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -5/+14check out this lecture by a jewish professor, the son of two holocaust survivors, who was denied tenure by depaul university after being pressured by the zionist tool, alan dershowitz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MON2HL02mec
and a debate between the two men:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-189926755 ...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2478038487 ...
watch...and learn about the issues...then you'll realize the great effort of zionist propagandists on msm, digg and elsewhere trying to control and shape the message americans are exposed to. - ZenMojo, on 01/07/2009, -0/+9There was a bill. Hillary Clinton sided with the Republicans against it. ***** Dianne Feinstein, Ms. Military-Industrial-Complex was for it.
Man, I'm glad Clinton lost the primary. - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -6/+14You know what's funny?
You have the same reasonning Hamas has. -
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