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Israeli police severely beat Palestinian student in Tel Aviv

btselem.org — They hit me in the head, slapped me very hard, and kicked me all over my body. There was hardly any room, and I couldn't move at all. ... I had trouble breathing because of the blows and the way I was sitting. I almost choked. While beating me, they swore at me, calling me a "son of a bitch" and "Arab bastard" and saying, "apologize."

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  • Wujian01, on 07/26/2008, -27/+3Why all of this happened?
    Until when....
  • LongShlong, on 07/26/2008, -32/+70This ***** is commonplace in Israel. There is no reason Israel should get any kind of support or funding from any organization nor nation in the world. Yet, she is about to play the catalyzing role of the next big middle east 'conflict' (even though it will be one-sided).
    That's my rant for the day.
    • mcm020, on 07/27/2008, -22/+8You realize they're completely surrounded by millions of people who want to kill them, right?
      • DalamarArgent, on 07/27/2008, -6/+16Israel has done everything possible to increase tensions in the region, if they didn't have the US government tied up in their front yard 24/7 the entire country would be a well deserved parking lot by now. Just give them a couple states in the US and have all the normal population move there, leave the war mongers in Israel to fight alone.
      • quaxon, on 07/27/2008, -2/+6And for very good reason...
      • dinostabOMG, on 07/27/2008, -2/+6What the ***** does that have to do with police brutality? You realize you're a brainwashed rectal parasite, right?
      • writie, on 07/28/2008, -0/+5Israel has peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, and is tentatively exploring negotiations with Syria (despite bombing them a few weeks back). So that leaves Lebanon (with which it recently exchanged corpses - so hopefully they can build on that as well). So it's not accurate to say that they are "surrounded by millions that want to kill them".
      • BoonTobias, on 07/28/2008, -1/+2DalamarArgent,

        it's too late, the israeli population has already taken over hollywood and wall street
  • Shiftgood, on 07/26/2008, -17/+6How do you solve problems like these?
  • Conspiracy20, on 07/26/2008, -29/+55Stop supporting them, monetarily and idealistically.
    • pintomp3, on 07/27/2008, -3/+15not giving them billions of US taxpayer dollars would be anti-semitic.
      • ZZeke, on 07/28/2008, -0/+4yeah, every American owes his/her allegiance to Israel, because they do SO much good for the American people - y'know, like, um, they do things and stuff...like, ummm, y'know.....well, whatever they're doing, we owe them, right?
  • macweirdo42, on 07/26/2008, -22/+51Goddamnit... I mean, look, I'm not saying "Death to Israel" or anything like that, but why, why do we act like they can do no wrong? They're completely above any criticism, and it's ridiculous. I'm not saying anyone's perfect, and in fact, that's the point - nobody's perfect, and yet for some reason, we're not allowed to point out Israel's faults. Gimme a ***** break.
    • MxM111, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2Do not confuse rouge policemen with the whole state. ***** happens in US too. The more important thing that he is going to "go the Department for the Investigation of Police, in the Ministry of Justice, to file a complaint against the three policemen."

      And his case will be considered and guilty will be punished, as in any democratic state.
  • dyuhl, on 07/26/2008, -21/+19Sounded to be like the officer was trying to get a negative response from the kid using references to his sister. Like they wanted him to react so they would have an excuse to beat him. So much hate between the Jews and the Palestinians, I personally don't hold out hope for peace between the two.
  • FrankHope, on 07/26/2008, -15/+39These cops are acting like thugs. Unfortunately this type of behavior by the Police is not uncommon in the US either.
    • dyuhl, on 07/27/2008, -4/+10You got that right. The story made me think of white cops beating the blacks.
      • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -14/+9And that's exactly what this false story is trying to make you believe. It's an attempt at deligitimizing Israel, by creating a connection between Israel, and white cops beating blacks.
    • juttman, on 07/27/2008, -5/+6Why would an Arab go to a Jewish territory or vice versa? I agree that people should have the freedom to travel where ever they choose to but use some common sense. I would love to see Iraq but I sure as ***** won't be going there anytime soon.
      • writie, on 07/28/2008, -1/+5Israel and Palestine are intertwined, inasmuch as the two countries are quite small and lots of Palestinians work for Israeli companies (in construction, notably). Separating them is practically impossible as, ironically, they really do need each other.
      • ZZeke, on 07/28/2008, -1/+5If you've been paying any attention to the situation in Israel, you would know that major Palestinian communities have been systematically "cut off" from each other and divided by Israeli land-grabs. Also, from what I can gather, one of the only ways to make an honest living or gain an education is by doing so in Israeli territory, because the economies and infrastructures in the Palestinian territories have been decimated.
  • ChillHomie, on 07/26/2008, -28/+45I am tired of Israel, I am tired of their abuse, I am tired of their shenanigans, it needs to stop.
  • onetimer, on 07/26/2008, -37/+34I know btsaleem is a perfectly unbiased website of course, and that an anecdotal testimony without any corroborating video evidence is rock solid, but is there something else that can substantiate this? Until then...

    Buried.
    • ad33lshahid, on 07/26/2008, -21/+27yet when you do get video evidence you say its staged. when israel runs over a peace activist, they were in the way. when israel bombs palestinian mothers and children, they were being used as human shilelds. when israel bulldozes palestinian homes, they were housing terrorists. when israel builds internationally-recognized-as-illegal settlements they were necessary yet when 5th generation palestinians apply for housing permit they are rejected and even citizenship revoked WHEREAS people who have never seen jerusalem yet who say they are jewish are granted citizenship at the drop of a hat. your comment = buried.
      • onetimer, on 07/26/2008, -24/+22Oh wow you can predict the future?

        Oh wait, you're full of ***** and trying to justify digging up something from a biased source with absolutely zero corroboration.
      • ad33lshahid, on 07/26/2008, -18/+19btselem is an israeli organization
      • onetimer, on 07/26/2008, -20/+20No, it's a "human rights" organization. I don't trust an article from there that is uncorroborated for the same reason I don't trust an Anti-meat article from PETA that is uncorroborated.
      • vault, on 07/26/2008, -21/+18B'tselem is a hardcore far-left organization that was actually founded by a feminist and a trial lawyer, hence their stated bias. And that's fine, groups like that are allowed to exist in free countries like Israel, but just because they release a statement does not mean it isn't subject to their attitudes, values (or lack thereof), and bias.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%27Tselem#Criticism_ ...

        This works the same anywhere else in the world. The ultra far left hate the country they live in and all symbols of power and authority almost as much as they hate themselves. The fact they happen to be Jewish and living in Israel doesn't change this.

        And before someone says it, I'm not talking about moderate liberals, I'm talking about 'progressive' pacifist types.
      • GhostyBoy, on 07/29/2008, -2/+1@onetimer: You were pretty quick to believe that a 9/11 truther beat up a handicapped girl with no video and no evidence and not one speck of verifiable evidence.

        Let's be real, man. You hate 9/11 truth and Ron Paul and anti-Israel submission to the point where you give more weight to arguments that support your opinions.

        I'm not saying you don't make a number of valid statements, but you can't honestly claim any real objectivity.
    • eclipse007, on 07/29/2008, -3/+2It's on CNN front page too,

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/07/29/israel.p ...

      good luck burying that with your Megaphone.

      Although since Zionist brigade on Digg has already called AP, BBC and Al-Jazeera biased and anti-Semitic , I doubt CNN is safe either.
  • dkapuchino, on 07/26/2008, -31/+30This whole story sounds ***** to me.
    It says he's going to file a complaint at the Department for the Investigation of Police. I'm pretty sure they found this whole "testimony" to be fabricated. Just read his testimony. Obviously, it's full of holes. People simply don't interact like he described.
    • Kitrus, on 07/26/2008, -26/+12"Obviously" you speak in generalities because... you're full of *****.
      • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -13/+15Have you ever met an Israeli? talked to an Israeli? Have a fist fight with an Israeli?

        'If your sister was wearing a short skirt and passed by here, would you look at her?' 'Why are you mentioning my sister?' I asked, and continued,'What would happen if your sister. . .' He ran at me and pushed me hard.

        This makes no sense in Israeli culture. That's not how fights start in Israel. That's not how an Israeli instigating a fight would talk. I can only assume one of two things happened:
        1. This guy invented the whole story, using situations that are common in his arab culture
        2. His story is true, but he chose to omit one important fact - the police officers were arabs as well. (Which is quite common, many Israeli arabs join the Israeli police force).
        Either way, this whole submission is propaganda.
  • insurgente, on 07/26/2008, -23/+15Leve, leve, leve Palestina! Leve, leve, leve Palestina! Leve Palestina och krossa Zionismen!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBO0ekcvQeI&fmt=18
  • decafmatan, on 07/26/2008, -19/+35Interesting how this story doesn't appear anywhere else on the internet, whether it be a pro-Israel or pro-Palestine website.

    "A few minutes later, he said, 'If your sister was wearing a short skirt and passed by here, would you look at her?' 'Why are you mentioning my sister?' I asked, and continued,'What would happen if your sister. . .' He ran at me and pushed me hard. The third policeman, who was tall, light-skinned, and big, also pushed me."

    This isn't even how Israeli's talk. This is how Arab/Muslim Mullahs interact. Sounds like he couldn't even make a legitimate-sounding story.
    • Kitrus, on 07/26/2008, -23/+18So that's why you don't (want to) believe the report? Because "that's not how Israelis talk"?

      This type of incident is commonplace. Israelis capture a Palestinian, often for no reason, and abuse and torture him or her for fun. In that sense, this is a very Israeli story. A quintessentially Israeli activity.
      • decafmatan, on 07/26/2008, -14/+18You want me to believe a report that *only* appears in a blatantly anti-Israel organization website?

        This type of psuedo-incident is commonplace in pallywood. Palestinians with no future, career, or accomplishments decide to radically shift an existing story, or completely fabricate one. In that sense, this is a very fake story.
      • Kitrus, on 07/26/2008, -18/+11Btselem is a widely respected Israeli human rights group run largely by...Israelis. It is "anti-Israel" only to the extent that that means reporting on criminal activities done by Israelis against Palestinians.

        The young man, who studies at Hebrew University, "wasted his time" filing an "imaginary" complaint about the "imaginary" violence done to him by the Israeli policemen in order to make Israel look bad, according to you.

        How sounds delusional here?
      • Kitrus, on 07/27/2008, -8/+5*"Who" not "How" in last sentence
      • yonoz, on 07/27/2008, -6/+7He wasted his time alright, perhaps that's what this is about:
        "I couldn’t go to work or university, and remained in bed for a week, during which assignments at work and at school accumulated."
      • Kitrus, on 07/28/2008, -4/+3Impeccable logic here.

        He was beaten so savagely that he was hospitalized and physically incapable of attending work or school.

        But NO, you see, with Palestinians, there is always a secret ulterior motive. In this case, creating an elaborate anti-Israel "plot" [Protocols of the Elders of Gaza] so one can go on playing hooky from university and work. Two birds with one stone with this particularly devious Palestinian: making Jews look bad and skipping school while at it.


        thanks for the laughs, 'yonoz'
      • yonoz, on 07/29/2008, -1/+4I guess he was beaten so severely, the hospital saw fit to do nothing but OBSERVE him for 16 hours.
        Oh, the humanity!
    • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -7/+21Funny thing is, walk into a police station, half of the officers are Israeli Arabs. But B'tselem won't tell you that...
      My friend used to volunteer in the police (Civil Guard). He used to patrol in a police car with a cop, and a guy named Rizik. Rizik was not only an Israeli Muslim Arab that volunteered to join the police force, he later joined the IDF as a combat fighter in the Givati brigade (Givati are stationed in Gaza).
    • Kitrus, on 07/28/2008, -7/+4Right. I'll take your word for it.
  • Stevanoski, on 07/26/2008, -27/+19Maybe Arabs should support Israel right to exist and quit trying to kill their mothers, sisters and babies.
    • Qtip42, on 07/27/2008, -7/+6You don't think this is possibly why they're trying to kill their mothers, sisters, and babies?

      Both sides are fighting an unwinnable war.
  • jamessavik, on 07/26/2008, -6/+33Some cops in the US are assholes too. They'll mess with you becsue they have the power. It doesn't mean that it is officially sanctioned or our citizens approve of it. In fact if the ***** cops are caught abusing their power, they are in serious trouble.
  • ryan69969, on 07/27/2008, -15/+22What do we (Americans) get out of our relationship with Israel? Israel doesn't really produce anything, nor does it have resources to speak of. We certainly don't need to trade with them. So why continue with this relationship? I would rather be a little alienated from Israel if it means our relations with the rest of the Middle East would improve significantly. All we get from Israel is resentment from its neighbors. I think it's time that we shake Israel's hand, tell them that it's been a great run, but now we're going to do our own thing. Best of luck with the Palestinian situation guys...oh yeah, and we won't be able to bankroll/arm your country anymore, either...thanks.
    • Stevanoski, on 07/27/2008, -12/+12Would be a cowardly way to win a modicum of improved relations with the middle east. Israel has always been a staunch ally. That is why we stand beside them. I know that means nothing to Democrats who hate America when it has a Republican President, but it means much to those of us who love the USA who ever is our leader.
      • ryan69969, on 07/27/2008, -8/+10I love the USA, but must I love Israel just as much? That Israel has been a staunch ally is a purely sentimental argument. What do they tangibly bring to the table in our alliance? Not much as far as I can tell. Is just a bad business arrangement for us. You wouldn't stay friendly with a person if all that person ever did was take your money and drag you into fights. Our alliance with Israel yields little to no benefit to our country, yet because of that alliance, we have had one foot in the middle of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict for decades now. Time to move on.
      • Stevanoski, on 07/27/2008, -12/+9@ryan69969 Will take you at your word that you love the USA. But surely you see many on your side that express outright hatred toward their country?

        No, you are not required to love Israel at all. I do believe supporting a long standing ally is more that a sentimental argument. Would you agree that it tells the world something about the USA that we stand behind our allies? England/Canada/France/Eastern Europe/S.Korea/Israel.

        Israel does not just drag us into fights and take our money and adds greatly to our security.

        Israel's role as a U.S. ally in this region is unique. In 1973, for example, a U.S. air lift enabled Israel to defeat the pro-Soviet Egyptian and Syrian armies without deployment of a single American soldier, and at a cost to the United States of only $2 billion. Had American troops been required, the operation would have cost untold lives and many more billions of dollars. As President Reagan wrote in 1979,

        The end of the cold war has increased Israel's value to the United States, as the Middle East now holds out great threats and benefits for the United States. Israel is uniquely placed to help the United States deal with these threats.

        Nuclear Arms more reasons than I have time to type or you have time to read.

        But I want to thank you for your moderate tone in discussing this.
      • ryan69969, on 07/27/2008, -6/+4No problemo,

        Are there people on "my side" who hate their country? Possibly. I don't know. I think most of the people I do know who would tend to agree with me on this issue are rather patriotic folks, mostly moderates I'd say.

        Of course the US needs to honor its commitments to its allies. However, allies need not blindly co-opt every policy desicion a partner-country makes. Example: our NATO allies did not invest themselves as stongly in the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as they did our invastion of Afganistan just prior. Yet, we still honor their partnership, even though they have varied their support for our various military actions over the years, and vice versa.

        However, the notion of an alliance infers that each side is a contributing partner. In the examples from the 1970's you cited, you mention two countries who border Israel. Our interest in those conflicts is merely predicated on the fact of our alliance with Israel--had we never been so tight with Israel, we would never have even considered sending $2 billion or any troops at all. To us, it would merely have been a regional conflict, just like any other in the world that we steer clear from interfering with. The assistance Israel gave us was to do their utmost to make fighting their own neighbors easier for the US to effectuate. I just fail to see the sense in that.

        On the other hand, how has Israel helped us in the war on terror? How many troops has Israel sent to Iraq or Afghanistan to help us out? How many sorties into Iraq have we been able to stage from Israel? The answer is none. Either action would enflame the rest of the region and make our rebuilding effots in Iraq, especially, much more difficult. In that regard, Israel is actually a liability in the war on terror.

        I am sure that Israel, simply in terms of geography, may serve some strategic function...but I think it's one we can afford to lose. It is spitting distance from Iraq...if even they didn't know that Iraq had no WMDs, then they really aren't pulling their weight in this alliance. Decades ago, the US decided that it would
        stand unquestioningly with Israel at every turn, and our veto use at the Security Council speaks for itself. I just think it's high time to seriously revisit that decision. That any benefits we get in that relationship are easily acceptable losses in the grand scheme. In life, some relationships just have to end at some point. I think ours is one of those whose time has come.

        I am not posting anything for at least a week now.
      • decafmatan, on 07/27/2008, -4/+8Israel supplies a *lot* in the technology fields. The majority of websites you use are coded in PHP, a language developed and being developed in Israel. Google, Microsoft, Intel - most high end tech companies have their only, or one of their few out-of-country offices in Israel.
      • Kizilbash, on 07/27/2008, -5/+4Israel is not an ally. An ally helps you when there is trouble. Israel needs to be bought off NOT to 'help' like in the Gulf War of 1990/91, so the US can have their REAL allies like Egypt and even Syria in that case to get the Arab public opinion on their side.
        Israel is the main cause for the Arab hostility towards the US. A spoiled brat which can get whatever it wants from sugardaddy.
      • ryan69969, on 07/27/2008, -1/+1@decafmatan:

        I did not realize that Israel was home to much of our Web 2.0 technology. Still, I would characterize those efforts as business-venture-type elements, rather than something which should demand the perpetuation of a military alliance.
      • DrDreyfus, on 07/28/2008, -3/+2@ryan69969

        That's an interesting point.
        Israel, however, provides more than these business-venture-type elements that you accurately categorized - it is a major reservoir for ingenuity and development in the fields of genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics and engineering.

        That laundry list of sectors is pulled directly from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technolog ...

        Israel doesn't provide exclusively to the USA its in innovations - it disseminates them to the world.
        An example would be bringing it's irrigation technology to developing African countries.

        I believe that a military alliance with Israel is beneficial to the United States (if a purely give-and-take relation is what you seek) because of Israel's contributions to the development of the world in light of the dire situation with her neighbors. I am sure you are aware that Israel is surrounded by enemies that tried to destroy her the first day of her existence.
      • ryan69969, on 07/28/2008, -0/+0@ DrDreyfus:

        Actually, my read of your argument makes ending our alliance an even more attractive proposition. The technologies you list could still be bolstered by entities in the private sector--espeically now with globalization upon us--without the U.S. and its tax payers being committed to support Israel in its foreign/domestic policies. In fact, could it be argued that Israel would have been unable to be so innovative without the U.S. bankrolling the country? Should U.S. taxpayers be entitled to a cut (or even itellectual property rights) of what ever Israel produces/profits from?

        And, if Israel is in fact such an innovative country, then we should allow them to be just as innovative in relaxing tensions with its neighbors on its own. If other countries in the world see technological gains in Israel, then they are free to take the initiative and create those relationships.

        "I believe that a military alliance with Israel is beneficial to the United States...because of Israel's contributions to the development of the world in light of the dire situation with her neighbors."

        I not following the logic in your proposition. Do you mean that Israel has contributed to the world, and as a part of that world the U.S. necessarily benefits? Or do you mean that Israel has contributed to the world, and therefore the U.S., by proxy, is receiving echoes of gratitude that Israel is necessarily receiving for its efforts?

        In the first case, the U.S. could do much more on its own, and with other international countries, to benefit the world at large and therefore benefit ourselves (i.e. climate change). In the second case, I do not see that the U.S. is receiving any proxy gratitude for Israel's innovations. At least, I haven't seen anything in the media where a country, that might otherwise have been our enemy, praised Israel and the U.S. because of some technological innovation that such a country may have received. Even so, it would be, I think "small potatoes"...insufficient to continue being Israel's "Yes man."
    • MarkEarhart, on 07/27/2008, -5/+5It involves a shadow government which is largely Jewish whose only loyalty is to Israel and whichever name they choose to attach to their occult god who is actually Lucifer.
    • tazd1010, on 07/28/2008, -4/+4Israel is one of the most innovative countries... ever heard of aol? perhaps fiber optics?(... a little guy named Rabbi/Dr. Presby)

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600302/p ...
      http://www.science.co.il/Nobel-Physics.asp
      http://www.science.co.il/Nobel.asp?s=lit&sort=y∨ ...
      http://www.science.co.il/Nobel.asp?s=lit&sort=y∨ ...
      http://www.science.co.il/Nobel.asp?s=ch&sort=y&ord ...
      http://www.science.co.il/Nobel.asp?s=bi&sort=y&ord ...

      just to name a few
  • Lynx55, on 07/27/2008, -18/+15Not a neutral source. Biased.
    • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -10/+10Understatement of the year.
    • Kizilbash, on 07/27/2008, -8/+8A Human Rights organisation is a biased source now? Israel and the US are joining those countries that don't give a ***** about human rights, like Saudi Arabia, China, Burma etc. Human rights organisation are only the enemy if you are a HR violator.
      • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -3/+6Humans have a right to live. My government has a responsibility to make sure I stay alive. My countries army has an obligation to defend my Human rights, first and foremost, my right to live.
        Terrorists threaten my life. They wish to see me dead, and even more then that, they wish to see my wife and children dead. When I see "Human rights" organisations start criticizing Suicide bombers, and offering viable solutions to defending innocent civilians from suicide bombers, They'll stop being biased.
      • tazd1010, on 07/28/2008, -1/+3the organization has the right to call itself whatever it likes... true "human rights" is in the name... it doesnt mean its a neutral, unbiased organization
      • ZZeke, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1"terrorists wish to see you dead" BECAUSE of the actions of your government. Not because they hate your freedom.
  • bernk1, on 07/27/2008, -16/+11This is a bogus article. "Son of a bitch." That's not an Israeli phrase and that is not the phrase that the author used as it appears in the Hebrew article on B'Tzelem's website. "Arab bastard." That's not what he says the police called him ("Arab maniac" is what is used there). That's a huge difference.

    Another point: "Tomorrow, I’ll go the Department for the Investigation of Police, in the Ministry of Justice, to file a complaint against the three policemen." This doesn't sound like someone who is overly frightened of the police. The fact that he is going to the Ministry of Justice's Department for the Investigation of Police must mean that he expects them to investigate this alleged behavior and to punish the officers of they did something wrong.
    • Kitrus, on 07/27/2008, -10/+6Israel has a viable and functioning legal system... for Jews only. Occasionally, Arab Israelis or Palestinians attempt to use that system to gain recompense for crimes committed against them. They are rarely vindicated and in fact Israelis strongly resent the idea that Palestinians expect equal treatment under the law.

      For example, in 2001, Jewish settler Nachum Korman beat 11-year old Hilmi Shusha to death. His punishment? A fine and 6 months of community service.

      And then there are the military courts...
      • dkapuchino, on 07/27/2008, -2/+4Tell that to the hundreds of jews that stood in front of the Israeli Arab supreme court judge, or the thousands of jews that were arrested or investigated by Israeli Arab police officers.
      • 911ArtStudent, on 07/27/2008, -3/+2If "son of a bitch" isn't an Israeli expression what is this guy saying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYuWOi56Wq0&feature ...
      • bernk1, on 07/28/2008, -2/+1911 - I read Hebrew and understand it. On B'Tzelem's Hebrew website -- which is the original since B'Tzelem is an ISRAELI organization -- the author says that the cops called him "Ben Zonah." "Son of a bitch" is a mistranslation into English. "Son of a bitch" would be "Ben Calbah." Ok? The guy was not called a "son of a bitch." Neither was he called an "Arab bastard." He was called an "Arab maniac." Get the difference?

        As for the youtube clip you are asking about, that language is English. They may be Israelis that come from the US. But "son of a bitch" is not a normal Israeli insult. In fact, most insults that Israelis use are either Arabic or Russian.

        If I confused you, Excuse Me!
  • yonoz, on 07/27/2008, -18/+23Let's see - A friend of his simply left him and went to his hotel. He didn't go to a hospital in Tel-Aviv - he preferred driving to a hospital in Jerusalem - an hour's drive - where he received NO treatment other than 16 hours of observation. He then goes home and stays in bed for a whole week, "during which assignments at work and at school accumulated".
    Why didn't his friend stay with him, and why did they go to Jerusalem if he was "in a lot of pain"?
    Why doesn't he have any photos of the bruisings?
    Why doesn't he show a copy of the hospital discharge notice?
    Why did he wait a whole week before filing a complaint?
    Why didn't he pay another visit to the hospital, or call another doctor if he was immobile for a whole week?
    • wakebrdr3, on 07/28/2008, -0/+7why dig down this guy for asking legit questions?
  • adamj123, on 07/27/2008, -8/+9*sarcasm on* Coming from a Human Rights organization for the occupied territories I am sure that article is 100% unbiased and true *sarcasm off*
  • mordochai, on 07/28/2008, -7/+1Not news.
  • bernk1, on 07/28/2008, -8/+9911 - How did you come up with that youtube clip as a reply to me? What do you do, watch these things, transcribe them and then catalog them so they are at your fingertip? The article was pretty alarming so I read it (have to keep an open mind and all that). The fact that things are not translated accurately should tell you something. Also, the fact that the author is not frightened about going to the Ministry of Justice's Department for the Investigation of Police. Yes, injustices do occur in Israel, but they are not a normal occurrence. Democracies are never perfect, because people are imperfect. Israel is a civil society and a democracy. This may be why so many people are opposed to it. Arab citizens vote. There are Arab judges, cabinet members, members of Parliament. There are a few Arab generals in the Israel Defense Forces. A few years ago (not too many) the acting President of Israel was an Arab! Does this make any difference to you?

    Fellow Zionists - we are slipping up in our control of the internet! We must endeavor to do better! At the next meeting we will have to discuss this. See you in the basement of our secret meeting place next Sunday!
    • tazd1010, on 07/28/2008, -2/+8Shhh! dont give aaalll the super secret details away! The elders will be upset!
      • bernk1, on 07/28/2008, -1/+4Not to fret, Comrade, WE all know that the meeting isn't in the basement and it isn't next Sunday. Just more lies, disinformation and manipulation.
    • DrDreyfus, on 07/28/2008, -5/+5I'll bring Bubby's Christian Baby Blood™ if you bring the matzah mix.
      • tazd1010, on 07/28/2008, -0/+2oh dr.. its not often i actually laugh out loud reading a comment... hahaha (tm) !
    • geffo, on 07/28/2008, -5/+2Israel is a religious state that gives preferences to Jews, it is not a democracy in the western sense, the injustices are systemic and state perpetrated, if western governments behaved in the manner that Israel does those governments would be held accountable by their own judicial systems this is clearly not the case in Israel.

      from wikip
      Ethnic minorities have full voting rights in Israel and are entitled to government benefits. However, the 2005 US Department of State report on Israel criticized Israel for “institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country’s Arab citizens.”[4]

      In a report submitted to the United Nations, Bedouin claim they face discrimination and are not treated as equal citizens in Israel and that Bedouin towns are not provided the same level of services or land that Jewish towns of the same size are and they are not given fair access to water. The city of Be'er Sheva refused to recognize a Bedouin holy site, despite the high court recommendation. [27]

      Human rights group B'Tselem has claimed that Arabs in Jerusalem are denied residency rights, leading to a housing shortage in the Arab areas of Jerusalem. [28]

      During the Al-Aqsa Intifada in 2003, the Knesset made a temporary amendment to the Nationality and Entry into Israel law which prohibited Palestinian married to Israelis from gaining Israeli citizenship or residency. Critics argue that the law is racist because it is targeted at Israeli Arabs who are far more likely to have Palestinian spouses than other Israelis; defenders say the law is aimed at preventing terrorist attacks and preserving the Jewish character of Israel.[29][30] The United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination unanimously approved a resolution saying that the Israeli law violated an international human rights treaty against racism.[31] The Israeli Ambassador to the UN in Geneva, Yaakov Levy, said the resolution was "highly politicized", citing the committee's failure to grant Israel's request to present evidence of the, "legislation's compliance with existing international law and practice', examples of "numerous concrete instances [in which the] granting of a legal status to Palestinian spouses of Israeli residents [was] abused by Palestinian residents of the territories for suicide terrorism", and also ignoring the fact that at the time of the UN resolution the matter was under review by the Israeli High Court of Justice. In addition, Levy noted that the UN Committee was ignoring, "existing similar laws and practices" in other states while censuring Israel. [32].

      The Association for Civil Rights in Israel filed a petition to have the law struck down[33] but it was upheld by a High Court decision in 2006.[29] In formulating the law, the government cited, "information presented by the security forces, which said that the terrorist organizations try to enlist Palestinians who have already received or will receive Israeli documentation and that the security services have a hard time distinguishing between Palestinians who might help the terrorists and those who will not [34]" In the Israeli Supreme Court decision on this matter, Deputy Chief Justice Mishael Cheshin argued that, "Israeli citizens [do not]enjoy a constitutional right to bring a foreign national into Israel...and it is the right -- moreover, it is the duty -- of the state, of any state, to protect its residents from those wishing to harm them. And it derives from this that the state is entitled to prevent the immigration of enemy nationals into it -- even if they are spouses of Israeli citizens -- while it is waging an armed conflict with that same enemy[35]"
      • bernk1, on 07/28/2008, -1/+3Your first paragraph is entirely wrong.

        Beduin holy site? Beduins are Muslims.

        If you don't think that Israel is a democracy (even in "the western sense?) there is no point in discussing things.

        What states in the Middle East (and you can include the Gaza Strip and the PA areas) would you consider democracies?
      • geffo, on 07/29/2008, -0/+1i stand by the above comments i also note you have not answered any of the points raised above.
        i left out Gaza and pa occupied areas as that would show an even worse situation of systematic injustices but as these areas have not yet been annexed they are not included, the UN reports on these areas do not make for great reading either.
  • swrostmore, on 07/28/2008, -5/+12A new WorldPublicOpinion.org poll of 18 countries finds that in 14 of them people mostly say their government should not take sides in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Just three countries favor taking the Palestinian side (Egypt, Iran, and Turkey) and one is divided (India). No country favors taking Israel's side, including the United States, where 71 percent favor taking neither side.
    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/ho ...
  • Coolkid11, on 07/28/2008, -9/+10Uh-huh sure. Not enough evidence. Buried.
  • justinx0r, on 07/28/2008, -7/+11I'm glad this article has cited so much evidence, has been corroborated by multiple sources, and is from a non-far left organization that is pro-Palestinian. Oh, wait.
  • radsent02, on 07/28/2008, -10/+9Israel cannot do wrong.

    Pretty remarkable...there is more debate over Israeli human rights abuses in Israel than in the United States. Israel's actions are legitimate by definition in the U.S. There is no discussion. Look at McCain and Obama. They are having a fight not over policy in this area, but over how loves Israel more, over who's support will be blinder to all conduct. Listening to public discourse would lead one to conclude that Palestinians aren't even human. If they were, Israel should be held accountable for grievous abuses of basic human rights.

    Take former De Paul Professor Norman Finkelstein. He is a meticulous scholar who is critical of Israeli policy; as any thinking moral person should be. His criticism lead to enormous pressure applied to the De Paul board considering giving him tenure. Not surprisingly, tenure was denied, but that wasn't enough. Last fall his courses were filled to capacity, but then canceled before the semester began.

    Ideologues undermine academic freedom. Dissenting views are absolutely not tolerated. What a loss of intellectual diversity.
  • wakebrdr3, on 07/28/2008, -11/+8he deserved it. digg me down for not condemning my country for doing what it has to in order to survive. you'd probably be a bit more on edge if you were surrounded by other countries with advanced armies denying your right to exist, and if you lived in constant fear of missiles falling from the sky and killing your family. my cousin was killed in the lebanon conflict by one of their rockets. don't you dare comment back in some derogatory fashion unless you know what that's like. i welcome actual argumentation, but don't you dare degrade her death by spouting some "damn israel/jews/anyone who isnt me" bs
    • BotchaMcCoola, on 07/28/2008, -7/+3Get out of that G-d-forsaken place and come here to the USA. If you cannot see that the USA is the True Promised land of the Jews then you have a mental problem and are at G-d's mercy.
    • ZZeke, on 07/28/2008, -1/+3@Botcha:The true promised land of the Jews?
      What are you gonna do, kick out all the Christians, Muslims, Baptists, Catholics, Buddhists, Protestants, Lutherans, Satanists, Pagans, Agnostics, and Atheists? (to name just a few)
      Sorry, I was born here, this is not the promised land of the Jews, it's America. Check out our constitution if you like...nothing there about this country being founded as a Jewish promised land. Nothing in the Declaration, either...all are welcome regardless of religious ideology. It may be the promised land, but it wasn't created for any one religion.

      @wakebrdr: By all means, please come here, we welcome you - but please try to leave your hurt and hatreds behind. I am truly sorry to hear about your personal loss, it must be a terrible thing to wrestle with. There have been so many losses in this seemingly never-ending conflict, and from here it all seems so pointless and futile. I want you to know that although there is a growing anti-Israel sentiment here in the US, it has nothing to do with the people of Israel, but rather the actions of it's government. The vast majority of those who condemn Israel harbor no resentment or ill will towards the average Israeli citizen, Jewish or otherwise. What we'd all like to see is a peaceful resolution, one that will last forever, not just a piece-meal cease-fire arrangement. In that context, there are concessions and compromises we'd all like to see from both sides of the conflict. Hopefully, one day both Israeli Jews and Palestinian Arabs can live without fear. That's what I hope for.
      • wakebrdr3, on 07/29/2008, -1/+0I have already come to new york as my parents sent my brother and I here to new york to live with some of our family members as because of the death of our cousin they felt it was too dangerous for us to stay. every day i pray that they will be safe and wait in suspense to see if i will get emails from my father which he sends me every day when he gets to work, and when he gets home from work, as well as the messages my mom sends me every night before she goes to sleep.

        this is why we are forced to act as we do towards the palestinians. it is very sad and i was forced away from some of my best friends because of it as a result of their terrorist actions. the father of my best friend since I was very young turned out to be a jihadist. we didn't find out until one day i went to his house expecting to meet for a movie, but instead found found my friend of more than ten years praising allah and cursing the jews. we act how we must to survive. they truly know no humanity.
    • writie, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3The responsibility for the deaths during the Lebanon conflict can be forwarded to Mr Olmert largely, who insisted on escalating a border incident and embarked on a very foolhardy invasion of Lebanon.

      The irony is that two years later he just did what Hezbollah suggested within a day or two of bombing: negotiating a prisoner swap (which turned out to be a corpse swap unfortunately). It would have saved some 1500 lives if he had done that more quickly. Having said that, the Hezbollah capture of the two Israeli soldiers was no less foolhardy and no matter what they say about victory, they paid a heavy price.

      But these IDF incidents are frequent, and will continue until the political will is there to settle the conflict with the Palestinians through negotiation. The last two to three years have seen a succession of delaying tactics from Tel Aviv. I know it's not easy, but they have to start somewhere.

      Meanwhile there are peace treaties in place with Egypt and Jordan already. It is not impossible that the situation with Lebanon improve. Most Lebanese just want to get on with their lives by now.
    • abdo, on 07/29/2008, -2/+2What advanced armies??? What fear are you talking about? You guys basically went over there 50 years ago, told the Palestinians to "clear off", and built settlements where they've been living for hundreds of years.

      And just to piss you off, I deny your right to exist in the Middle East, where you took these people's land (by force) and made them live in tents for half a century. I spit on you.

      You should be ashamed of yourself.
  • catcher6250, on 07/28/2008, -4/+15Kid gets beaten up by mean cops.

    This event could have taken place anywhere in the world. The fact that it happened in Israel doesn't make it any more or less serious.

    That is, if it even really happened.
  • anxcaptain, on 07/28/2008, -7/+9the world would be a better place with out Israel. (not in a nazi kinda way, just in a geographical tension kinda way)
  • EIEAviv2008, on 07/28/2008, -11/+3www.ihateisrael.com

    and

    www.israelsucks.com

    all have the same story....credible story....
  • coffee200am, on 07/28/2008, -2/+4Fatah's arrests of Hamas activists begin


    Palestinian security forces began arresting Hamas activists in the West Bank following Hamas's roundup of 200 Fatah operatives, officials said.

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, the Fatah party leader, has denied the party's involvement in the arrests, reported Debkafile.com, an intelligence Web site based in Jerusalem.

    Fatah had threatened to arrest 200 Hamas men in West Bank in retaliation for Hamas's detention of dozens of Fatah men in Gaza after an explosion last week in which five Hamas men and a girl were killed, Ynetnews reported.
    ----------------------------
    Hamas bans distribution of Palestinian dailies in Gaza Strip
    The de-facto Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip has banned three major West Bank-based Palestinian dailies in the salient, a statement by the Hamas-run interior ministry said Monday.

    Five Hamas militants and a child were killed in the Friday night car bombing, which has since sparked a new wave of tensions between the radical Islamic movement ruling Gaza and the rival Fatah party of West Bank-based President Mahmoud Abbas.

    Hamas had accused Fatah of being behind the blast. The three dailies, on the other hand, had quoted Fatah officials as saying than internal disputes within Hamas were behind the bombing.

    The Palestinian Journalists Union in the West Bank said the Hamas police in Gaza prevented the three newspapers, Al-Quds, Al-Ayyam and Al-Hayat al-Jadida, from being distributed after they arrived in the enclave.

    The ministry said it blocked their distribution in the Gaza Strip because of what it described as their unfair coverage of a bombing attack on a Hamas car Friday.
    • str8up, on 07/29/2008, -0/+0hamas and fatah are enemy palestinian organizations (one is based in national pride and one is based in religious belief)- it's why they're annoying the ***** out each other
  • JFJAW, on 07/28/2008, -3/+4I'm really shocked from 1 - the title of this shout/article that is strongly related to --when facts are not described in their real sequences--the dishonest reporting that is invading the Globe 2 - the number of diggs i.e. 182 for such a typical Palestinian stereotype story stronly highlighted in most of Arab media.
    I would rather expecting that Al-Durer fake story--the big lie after 7 years--be dugg and --at least mentioned-- in Arab media that much. Seems well that the cultural level of people round the Globe is drastically decreasing where no ears are available for the voice of reason and Truth.

    Commenting from the heart of the Middle East i.e. Lebanon who did endure (and still] the Palestinian destructive behavior...the whole Arab World have had enough of your violence and of your so-called cause.
    Palestinians who made the entire world --UN in the first place-- name you Palestinian refugees, made other refugees completely forgotten.
    Palestinians who are making the entire world paying you and your violence the highest fund ever since 60 years, what do you want? What did you do with all this money other than funding the hatred and violence that live naturally in your hearts?

    To all of you diggers: The Globe is full of needy-good-people who value [their gifted] life instead of death. Those hungry, ill, illiterate, oppressed people...are fighting for their survival. They want to live and let others live too. Those needy people are a fact of life...a Truth. Please re-guide your ears to Truth.

    God's Blessings
    Norma from Lebanon


  • str3ama, on 07/28/2008, -1/+7The reason why Israel is mentioned in the title is because it's Israeli police not school security. There's a difference.
  • Mothh, on 07/29/2008, -2/+4OMG, There is no way this would ever happen in the U.S.

    /sarcasm
  • nandaaudy, on 07/29/2008, -5/+2go israel.. dont worry US will cover your ass... go kill palestinian,s baby.. dont worry US will look away..
    • pitlord, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1Since when is a 12 year old boy who attacks police in uniform with a rocks and a sling considered a "baby?"
      >.>
  • Seldon2639, on 07/29/2008, -0/+3I just have to point something out: this isn't an unbiased media source, and there is little provided by way of corroborating evidence. I understand that it's his testimony, but that does not make it fact. There are objectionable things Israel has done, don't get me wrong, though I will argue that there's enough blame to go around, and then some left over. But, before you treat this as actual evidence that Israel is routinely beating students, please consider the source.

    This is not being reported by BBC, Reuters, Agence France, much less American news outlets. If this were an actual case of abuse, I would have to believe that the international wires would have picked it up, since they do pick up every other time Israeli soldiers do so much as sneeze at a Palestinian.

    I'm a liberal, and I think that this level of blind acceptance of the schema that Israel is evil, every possible accusation must be true, and all Palestinians (even the terrorists) are simply freedom fighters, to be foolish and illogical
    • pitlord, on 07/29/2008, -1/+1You probably aren't as "liberal" as you think.
      >.>
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