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Israeli companies spy on Americans at AT&T and Verizon

americangoy.blogspot.com — James Bamford: "This company, Narus, which was founded in Israel and has large Israel connections, does the —basically the tapping of the communications on AT&T. And Verizon chose another company, ironically also founded in Israel and largely controlled by and developed by people in Israel called Verint."

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  • Catspaw, on 10/16/2008, -1/+20This very serious matter is covered in the excellent new documentary 'Fabled Enemies' also. Refer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu0xfz4DEN4
  • americangoy, on 10/16/2008, -1/+18If you have no idea who James Bamford is, go to Amazon and type in his name.

    He knows what he is talking about and he has many friends in the intelligence community whom he uses as anonymous sources.

    Note that he does not betray American secrets in his books - only shows abuses and chronicles history of intelligence agencies.

    No operational secrets are told, no agent or employee names named (unless said employees already are in the open, i.e. whistleblowers).

    I think that you, as an American or world citizen, should be aware of what is going on.

    I realize that for many the presidential circus takes priority, but dammit, THIS is important.
  • sheeplescareme, on 10/16/2008, -1/+16definitely worth taking the time to either read the full transcipt or listen to the full interview.
  • SaraLiberty, on 10/16/2008, -1/+14Very revealing. And certainly no surprise...

    Imagine if these were "freedom hating Muslims"..
  • toetagger, on 10/16/2008, -1/+6Sheesh! Here's a google search for "israel espionage in united states" Too many hits! http://preview.tinyurl.com/4w43zo
  • ChristNewsWatch, on 10/17/2008, -1/+5If I may add something we really need to remember....

    Before we say "Israel did this", the USA did that", etc.... let us separate the citizens from the governments / Leadership.

    Far too often, we forget that the average citizen is not to blame for what their country is doing, so they should not be grouped into the blame game!

    Same thing on the American side, most of the world supposedly hates us, yet we have no control over what our government does that is causing that hate!

    Voting hasn't seemed to help, if it did, our country wouldn't be such a mess!

    Don't get mad at the Israeli people, they are just as helpless as we are to what actions their government takes!
    • SaraLiberty, on 10/18/2008, -0/+3That is a great point, ChristNewsWatch...

      "let us separate the citizens from the governments / Leadership. "

      Precisely. As it stands.

      I doubt most real human beings with a conscience would want any part in these subversive "ultra secret!" government "spying" programs & the like. Who in their right mind gets off doing that?

      Since when do these FUBAR corrupt governments represent actions the people want to take?
      They fail to hear our voices. They shut us out. They sold out the people a long time ago.
      They have their own agenda. They don't work for us. That's a farce.
      They do whatever they please despite us. They only PRETEND to represent us.
      "Representatives of the people."
      Sure.

      We are mere serfs for cannon fodder and taxation without representation anymore.

      Since when do any of these administrations represent what it means to be American, or Israeli.
      Just as many Israelis disagree with actions taken by their government as Americans do theirs..
      I don't see anything this administration does as defining what it means to be "American" AT ALL.

      It's too bad there are some *3 million* of us, yet so few and far between of "them" (government criminals).
      Yet we remain powerless to evoke real change for the better.

      The creatures in power have got us expertly divided, fighting amongst each-other over petty non-issues.
      "Left vs right" "conservative vs liberal" "Race vs race" "god vs god" and so on. Ad nauseam.
      Divided and conquered. Separated, confused and distracted in one big gigantic naive bubble.
      Yet those in power are perfectly aligned.
      Think about it...

      If voting really changed things, it would be illegal.
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