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Israeli Army Loots a Palestinian Orphanage
sabbah.biz — According to the illegal military order, 13500 orphans, 1000 poor families, 9000 school children, 2500 children receiving care, and 800 workers should be cut off of their social and educational security, their jobs destroyed, and the properties of these charitable organizations must be transferred to the property of GOC Gadi Shamni by 1st April '08
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- neocognitism, on 03/17/2008, -22/+34Well now we know the previous story was 100% true:
http://digg.com/world_news/MONSTROUS_Israeli_Army_ ...
Look back in the comments at the knowingly 100% false Fear, Uncertainty, and Deception (FUD) spread by the Ziontologists there. Now, does anyone need any more proof of their complete lack of honor and morality? They sociopathically attacked the story any way they could, focusing in on any and every point. Did ANY of them voice any concern or regret? No they did not.
If anyone needs a more blatant display of pathology to explain how the Israeli Apartheid state could have evolved, and how the Palestinian genocide has been allowed to unfold, then just wait. The Shas/Likudniks are against a negotiated peace at all costs, and the only way to achieve that is more bloodshed and hardship.
If only the majority of Israelis who desire an end to all bloodshed and a negotiated peace with Hamas could get control of their country back. Let us pray they are able to. Let us also pray that the thousands of orphans in Palestine find some alternate way to survive.- LongShlong, on 03/18/2008, -7/+3Prayer isn't going to save those poor Palestinians, you *****.
Instead of praying, how about cutting off US funding to the nuclear-armed Israel and all other military/political support. Perhaps then, they might stop murdering so many innocents.
- LongShlong, on 03/18/2008, -7/+3Prayer isn't going to save those poor Palestinians, you *****.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -31/+20Again, the order is directed at the Young Muslim Association, a known front for Hamas since before 1997. The organs listed in the article are not mentioned in the order.
"To add insult to injury. the food stolen from the Palestinian orphans went to the kitchen of the well-fed soldiers of the IDF at Colonel Yehuda Fuchs’ quarters." - difficult to believe - the IDF is strictly kosher.
"Sheikh Dr. Taisir Rajab Al-Tamimi, the Chief of Judges of the Palestinian Authority and the Chairman of High Council of Islamic Law, commented on the illegal order of Shamni" - let's see some other saying of Dr. Al-Tamimi: "In 1994, Sheikh Taissir Rajab Al-Tamimi, the Palestinian Authority’s Chief of Judges and chairman of its Islamic law high council at the time, said: "The Jews are destined to be persecuted, humiliated, and tortured forever, and it is a Muslim duty to see to it that they reap their due. No petty arguments must be allowed to divide us. Where Hitler failed, we must succeed." "
Everything that the IDF takes is inventoried and a receipt is given. The order clearly lists the steps to be taken to go to the judicial authorities and recover items. Now, _IF_and that's a big _IF_ anything was taken, the judges will _again_ rule so and the property will be returned.
If you sleep with dogs you wake up with fleas - don't expect to lie with Hamas and stay clean.- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -16/+15Pure FUD. Tasted, and rejected. You are a sick antisemite, and I hope however much you're being paid to sit there and do what you do is enough.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -19/+13Haha. You're funny. Do you come in sick yellow, or only in envy green?
I don't see you disproving my points. Afraid of debating, again?- MarkusGarvey, on 03/18/2008, -13/+18why cant you just admit your wrong foo..so you think the orphans were hamas?....
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -19/+12I will, as soon as someone proves me wrong. So far, I only have:
1) documentation against the "Young Muslim Association", a well-known front for Hamas
2) a bunch of blogs describing an alleged confiscation of an alleged orphanage
3) a rich tradition of false tearful propaganda from the Palestinians using their children
4) a full explanation of Israeli military procedure re return of wrongly confiscated items
Come back to me when you have hard proof. Right now, all we've seen is the usual. - neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -15/+15Yup, he literally equates the orphans with the military wing of Hamas. It's not surprising, how else did situations like the IDF using Palestinian children for human shields for a couple decades come into being unless these sorts of insane paranoid conclusions abound.
Of course, the orphanage denying it has any connection whatsoever to Hamas and verified by interviews must be wrong. Must be. Has to be. Or else he really is a sick child-killer. He doesn't have much choice but to keep claiming what he has been. Sort of reminds me of how holocausts get ramped up -- after the first crime against humanity you have no choice but to escalate or face prison. - foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -17/+12"Yup, he literally equates the orphans with the military wing of Hamas." - you reading problems are showing again. Nowhere in my post you'll find me referring to orphans - I explicitly refer to the "Young Muslim Association", which does not appear to be the alleged name of the alleged orphanage.
"Of course, the orphanage denying it has any connection whatsoever to Hamas and verified by interviews must be wrong. " - and, if there is an orphanage, why can't it be part of Hamas? Arent they so proud they are a "civic enterprise" ? You don't seem to know really the structure of your heroes, Hamas.
"Sort of reminds me of how holocausts get ramped up -- after the first crime against humanity you have no choice but to escalate or face prison." - and the genie comes out of the bottle - good job at Holocaust-denial there, dumbo. Glad to see you finally got the balls to show your real face. - neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -13/+14Markus, see, this is the strategy, every time.
He presents himself as the person all of us need to "prove" it to, and he sets the initial conditions from which we must do that. Did you see his #1 - #4. Basically he sets the terms with the Ziontologist-approved assumptions contained in those points. See, that's the key -- always ask "what are the assumptions of what I am reading?" You'll quickly see you have to argue your way out of falsehood after falsehood until you get caught in a cyclical confusing back-and-forth, and the original point of the article is lost.
Just ignore him. He's a liar, an antisemite, a sociopath, a paid dissembler, and a fraud. He _IS NOT HERE TO DEBATE_, he's here to spread FUD.
Now just watch him post on every single comment as this story progresses. Either him or one of the shill accounts they use.
Ignore him! - foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -16/+14"He presents himself as the person all of us need to "prove" it to" - here, I'll school you once again. I don't mind. From Wikipedia: Burden of proof (Latin, onus probandi) is the obligation to prove allegations which are presented in a legal action. The Latin maxim necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit explains the rule that "the necessity of proof lies with he who complains." For example, a person has to prove that someone is guilty or not guilty (in a criminal case) or liable or not liable (in a civil case) depending on the allegations. More colloquially, burden of proof refers to an obligation in a particular context to defend a position against a prima facie other position. - YOU'RE the one making the allegations - so YOU have to prove that they are true, doofus.
"Basically he sets the terms with the Ziontologist-approved assumptions contained in those points." - geez, you can't recognize logic when it is thrown in front of your face, uh? That's beyond reading comprehension - it looks like your brainwash had a rinse cycle as well.
"You'll quickly see you have to argue your way out of falsehood after falsehood " - freudian slip? Yes, you'll have to argue your way out of falsehood after falsehood that you allege without proof.
"Just ignore him" - the way you so masterfully do? Is this just more of the famous neocognitism dogma of "do what I say don't do what i do" ?
"He _IS NOT HERE TO DEBATE_, he's here to spread FUD." - here, spell with me: P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N. I gave you facts and I challenged your allegations. This is called debating, doofus. "Just ignore him" is called "running from debate".
"Ignore him!" - aaaargh!! Ignore the Joooooo!!! Or he'll drink your bloooooood, it's almost Passover and he may need matzos!!!! Run from the Jooooooo! - MarkusGarvey, on 03/18/2008, -13/+11so now we hate jew's...you are a sick pup foo...i dont see YOU posting anything that refutes this..BTW...my mom is a jew and so is my x wife.....
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -13/+11foobutt, why are you responding to what I said? Like anyone would care or believe what Hitler said at his trial, Oy!
- WaltDismal, on 03/18/2008, -10/+11One can see the same method over and over. Denial, deflection, and never - not ever - any concern for killing of anyone opposed to the goals of Israel. Whether they are genuine terrorists or mere children or Americans or British. Always lies and no conscience, and even some megalomania. These are not the traits of sane people. But they are the mechanics of the propaganda machine.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -12/+11@MarkusGarvey: "i dont see YOU posting anything that refutes this" - refuting an unproven assertion only lends it credibility. Prove the allegation that it really happened as described, then we'll discuss.
Btw - my "jooo" comment was directed at the child. Don't take offense at stuff not related to you, please. - geoken, on 03/18/2008, -5/+5"refuting an unproven assertion only lends it credibility" In other words you can't refute it because it's true. Thanks for clearing that up.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -6/+3@foobutt: juice not jooos, you stupid idiot. That's like five times I've had to correct that spelling error of yours.
It was funny, how he's like "I will not engage you stuff because it is prima facie wrong, but you must engage my stuff forever because I say it is NOT prima facie wrong." foobutt is a professional shill, you have to deconstruct everything he says or else you'll end up in a little vortex of confusion holding a Zionist flag with one hand and trying not to stab yourself in the eye with an American flag in the other.. - foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -3/+7@geoken: now that's a non sequitur if i ever saw one. If you engage a lie as to disprove it, you're automatically giving it a truth imprimatur. So it's better to just let the lie lie.
- foopirata, on 03/19/2008, -2/+5@neocognitism: child, it is nice you're learning new stuff, but you got a small problem there: "prima facie" does not apply when the person giving the argument also provides supporting evidence (since evidence negates prima facie). See, when you throw "the food was taken and it is being eaten by the soldiers" and I reply "the IDF is strictly kosher, so there's no way that food went into the kitchen", I am basing myself on the bylaws that govern the IDF, which I know firsthand. You, on the other hand, are basing yourself on your imagination or on a libelous article of news of dubious background. It's cute that you try that hard, keep on it eventually you'll get something right.
About "deconstructing" me, it is interesting that you bring out that particular artifact. It seems that, on face of the facts you're presented against your libels and lies, you engage in a futile exercise of picking apart my saying in order to try and inject your own meaning and your own agenda into the spaces; this, of course, completely matches your habit of projecting your own bias and bigotry into other and other's posts, since you are unable to, at the end of your exercise, find a limb to grasp on to, you have to fill the void with your own inadequacies for public judgment. It all probably stems from a narcissistic point of view where your meager knowledge "becomes all knowledge". It is quite textbook, I am told.
I am so sorry if what I say sends you in to a little vortex of confusion. I promise to keep it simple so you can benefit from the epiphany of understanding.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -19/+12I will, as soon as someone proves me wrong. So far, I only have:
- MarkusGarvey, on 03/18/2008, -13/+18why cant you just admit your wrong foo..so you think the orphans were hamas?....
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -19/+13Haha. You're funny. Do you come in sick yellow, or only in envy green?
- CryRightardCry, on 03/18/2008, -6/+11What a load of crap.
You are a lying sack of *****, and you KNOW it.
If I was as miserable a lying coward as you I'd jump off a bridge.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -16/+15Pure FUD. Tasted, and rejected. You are a sick antisemite, and I hope however much you're being paid to sit there and do what you do is enough.
- caponumen, on 03/18/2008, -6/+19I have two 48 hour peace plans for the middle east.
In one neither side will be happy, in the other, neither side will be living to care.
I suggest both sides work to avoid these......- americangoy, on 03/18/2008, -6/+7That's funny, this is the position that I am leaning towards also.
Peace enforced with (if needed) napalm bombs and cluster munitions... indeed.
OK - forgive me, it is late here...- c3p0wow, on 03/18/2008, -4/+6So, both of your problems are not the use of ammo - it is just that it is Jews using it?
- c3p0wow, on 03/18/2008, -4/+6So, both of your problems are not the use of ammo - it is just that it is Jews using it?
- americangoy, on 03/18/2008, -6/+7That's funny, this is the position that I am leaning towards also.
- thecoolestguy, on 03/18/2008, -16/+35The Israeli brigade is disgusting. EVERY single critical story about Israel gets buried by them.
- Beveridge89, on 03/18/2008, -20/+11Just post a story that is written by someone actually capable of being neutral and i'll digg it. Otherwise people will just keep ignoring them.
By the way, the reason this isn't on the front page isn't because its being buried, its because nobody is digging it. - thecoolestguy, on 03/18/2008, -10/+13Bev, you're part of the Israel brigade, so why don't you STFU
- Beveridge89, on 03/18/2008, -5/+7Am I? I don't know if there is a way you can check whos buried stuff on digg or not, but I can assure you I haven't been burying Israeli critical stories because they are critical of Israel (some I have, because they were ridiculous propaganda, and really i was doing your cause a favour by stopping the majority of digg users seeing the kind of idiocy you will believe). This one, for instance, I havent buried.
So asking for a story capable of being neutral enough not to refer to the IDF as 'thugs' or the Israeli order as evil makes me part of the Israel brigade? That would make sense to you i suppose, given that you equate anyone Jewish who supports the Iraq war as a Zionist. It is lucky I do not leap to conclusions as much as you, or else I would have to assume you were an idiot. - thecoolestguy, on 03/19/2008, -2/+7"Am I? "
WTF are you talking about, look at the stories you digg: stories attacking Palestinian credibility, stories attacking Obama's advisors who were critical of Israel, stories attacking Ron Paul, etc. You're a soldier for your ethnicity. You don't give a ***** about America, you only care about Israel.
"Am I?"
Yes you are. - Beveridge89, on 03/19/2008, -3/+3I'm a soldier for my ethnicity? Thank you for proving my point. I'm not Jewish.
See, i've brought this up with you before, but you ran away. Please don't do so this time. Why is it you seem fit to make rash judgements on people? Last time I questioned why you would assume anyone who supports the war in Iraq and is Jewish must be doing so for Israels sake. You didn't respond. Now anyone who supports Israel too much must be Jewish? Please, this time I'd like a response.
Now, the stories I digg:
"stories attacking Palestinian credibility"- When? Give an example. I can think of tonnes attacking Hamas and Arafats credibility, not so many that attack the credibility of the Palestinian people in general.
"stories attacking Obama's advisors who were critical of Israel"- I believe you mean story, singular. And so what, exactly? I dugg five stories on the death of my football teams captain, so can we assume I care five times as much about that than what one of Obamas advisors said? In any case, since you looked at my profile, you would know that I was supporting Obama, which you obviously decided not to bring up since it would go completely against your argument. So i'm part of an Israel brigade, a soldier of my Scottish and Irish ancestry for Israel, yet i'm supporting a candidate whos policy I don't agree with on Israel? I hope you see the flaws in your own assertions.
"stories attacking Ron Paul"- really? I can look back and tell you the stories relating to Ron Paul i've dugg recently:
one by a RP supporter saying other RP supporters are insane (ie not attacking RP)
one as a sarcasric dig at RP supporters claiming other candidates are in the CFR by claiming Paul was in it (ie not attacking RP)
one by newsweek pointing out his inconsistencies (no mentioning Israel at all)
one of Stephen Colbert, which actually says hes right abut Iraq
one of RP explaining the 'we the people' act, which is really a neutral story.
one about RP military support (critical of his claim, not his policies, no mention of Israel)
one of a RP supporter going a bit mad to a radio talk show host (ie not attacking RP)
Thats as far back as I can be bothered going, but there you go. One critical of his policies, one critical of a claim he made, a few funny ones, the rest critical of his supporters but most crucially, not one mention of Israel. So where did you come up with the idea I didn't like Ron Paul because of his policy towards Israel? You know, other than your vaguely anti-semetic idea that I was Jewish based on my supposed political opinions.
Finally, there are plenty of reasons I care more about Israel than America. Since you looked at my profile, I can only assume you looked at the thing saying I was British, but decided not to mention that because you wanted a good last line to paint me out as an evil unpatriotic zionist conspirator.
I care about America to the point I want it to continue to care about Europe and maintain a slightly less interventionist foreign policy than it has just now. But nothing, right now or for the next fifty years, will come close to challenging America at home or abroad. I can't say with any certainty the same thing about Israel. Israel is surrounded by enemies and uneasy friends; America isn't. I don't care as much about America because the most it has to worry about is the next recession.
- Beveridge89, on 03/18/2008, -5/+7Am I? I don't know if there is a way you can check whos buried stuff on digg or not, but I can assure you I haven't been burying Israeli critical stories because they are critical of Israel (some I have, because they were ridiculous propaganda, and really i was doing your cause a favour by stopping the majority of digg users seeing the kind of idiocy you will believe). This one, for instance, I havent buried.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -16/+12thecoolestguy: "The Israeli brigade buries all they don't agree with"
beveridge: "Or perhaps the story is not dugg"
thecoolestguy: "You're part of the Israeli brigade, so STFU"
So...thecoolestguy whines that there is "a group" that stifles debate by silencing the story, but once confronted with an opposing position, his reaction is...to silence that opinion! How...so...very....consistent...- americangoy, on 03/18/2008, -9/+13"thecoolestguy whines that there is "a group" that stifles debate by silencing the story"
absolutely. stories critical of Israel are being buried en masse.- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -14/+9Voooosh, the point of my post just went over your head like a bat out of hell.
- foopirata, on 03/18/2008, -14/+9Voooosh, the point of my post just went over your head like a bat out of hell.
- geoken, on 03/18/2008, -6/+4No, his reaction was to accuse the confronter of bieng part of the afformentioned group. Are your logical abilities really that inept or are you just an extremely biased individual who throws red herrings for sport?
- Beveridge89, on 03/18/2008, -6/+5By telling me to 'shut the ***** up'. You don't agree that it is hypocritical to criticise one group for trying to stifle debate on one subject then to try and stifle debate by insisting that alleged members of that group should not enter debate?
- americangoy, on 03/18/2008, -9/+13"thecoolestguy whines that there is "a group" that stifles debate by silencing the story"
- InRussetShadows, on 03/18/2008, -13/+7And let's just say that I digg or bury articles I don't like. How is that wrong? One of the options on the Bury button is "lame", so apparently Digg thinks it's ok for me to bury stuff I don't like. As far as there being an Israeli brigade, show me your proof. Put up or shut up.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -3/+7So you don't deny it. Tacit admission, baby. Come on, deny it, please? I could use a good laugh, Ziontologist.
- oldhick, on 03/18/2008, -12/+6I don't know what DIGG site you go to, but on DIGG.com, the only stories that make the front page are anti-Israel. I've been a Digg member for years and have never ONCE seen a pro-Israel story.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -4/+7Not true, there have been quite a few anti-Palestinian Justice stories on the FP. Just a few weeks ago was a story on "Pallywood." Do a search.
You're really insulting the efforts of the Ziontologist PR effort with your words. They should send the Mossad to reeducate you, Hagee-lover.- oldhick, on 03/19/2008, -2/+1Who or what is Hagee?
- oldhick, on 03/19/2008, -1/+2So I just searched Digg for "pallywood" and no results appear. And by the way, I am far from a zionist and I would love to see the US quit supporting Israel and let them try to stand on their own feet. But I know if I was born over there I'd be defending myself and my family.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -4/+7Not true, there have been quite a few anti-Palestinian Justice stories on the FP. Just a few weeks ago was a story on "Pallywood." Do a search.
- smacksaw, on 03/18/2008, -4/+8I have the Digg Rating Extender installed, so when I see people with 0 Diggs, but they are -15 and +15, it really is interesting since no other topics get those things.
And I consider it a badge of personal honour when these people Digg me down, because I can see how many of them were afraid of what I had to say and desperate to silence me.
Thanks Digg Rating Extender!- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -4/+6Wow, thanks I didn't know about this. My first post is -18 +32. It's a cool little tool.
- colonelbuckshot, on 03/18/2008, -5/+11http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_too ...
- neko6, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1Don't post propaganda lies, don't get buried. Simple logic.
I never heard of Sabbah.biz, probably another Hamas driven website - and there are clear refutations and clarifications re. the story in the first few comments, which nobody has even TRIED contradicting. Hence, the story should be buried as inaccurate. Find a reputable source, preferably one with real factfinding behind it, and it will be dugg.
- Beveridge89, on 03/18/2008, -20/+11Just post a story that is written by someone actually capable of being neutral and i'll digg it. Otherwise people will just keep ignoring them.
- chrisjj, on 03/18/2008, -15/+22Nothing new here. No surprises, except perhaps to the average American on the street who thinks that Israel is some wonderful bastion of Western Civilization in the Middle East. We won't see this on CNN anytime soon - the Israel Lobby rules here. The Israeli military might just as well put on those WWII German SS uniforms now, just to complete the picture.
- neko6, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1Maybe you won't see it in CNN because its propaganda lies?
Or do you also want CNN to run the story about chrissjj raping and murdering little girls? no? but I can write a blog post about it, it must be true!
- neko6, on 03/23/2008, -0/+1Maybe you won't see it in CNN because its propaganda lies?
- yonoz, on 03/18/2008, -17/+15Once again, no evidence, only accusations by highly partial sources.
Buried for intended inaccuracy.- VladislavIII, on 03/18/2008, -7/+7Dugg because I'm a ***** idiot and I believe everything I see on the Internet regardless of the source.
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=sabbah&tld=bi ... - neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -6/+4Parent post buried for inaccuracy, lack of sources cited, lack of evidence.
- yonoz, on 03/19/2008, -2/+4Nah, it was buried because you wouldn't like people to be able to read it.
- VladislavIII, on 03/18/2008, -7/+7Dugg because I'm a ***** idiot and I believe everything I see on the Internet regardless of the source.
- smacksaw, on 03/18/2008, -15/+5I think about recent events in Lebanon - where the attacks on Israel were coming from hospitals, residences, schools, etc. It was a lose-lose for the IDF, because if they counterattacked they risked killing civilians. And they did and those people did die.
I suspect this is the same thing. Orphanage? Probably. Front for Hamas? Probably. Does it mean that defeating Hamas is more important than an orphanage? Reasonable people say "no", but we already know the Israelis will attack a residential area and kill scores of people just to kill a single person with a mortar.
The sad thing Israel doesn't understand is they have no moral authority to do what they do. They have no sympathy from the world, and that is where Hamas is clever since they have successfully reduced Israel to their level.
ps - Please Digg me down. Your desperation sustains me.- yonoz, on 03/18/2008, -9/+6Remind me, just when was the right to self-defence abolished?
- wpi97, on 03/18/2008, -4/+9"but we already know the Israelis will attack a residential area and kill scores of people just to kill a single person with a mortar."
So, according to you the Israelis should leave the single terrorist with a mortar alone, and allow him to kill scores of Israeli civilians? What if there are many single terrorists with mortars and rockets in different places all firing into Israeli towns, which is exactly what is happening now? I am really glad you were not the president of the US or the prime minister of Britain during WWII. You would have done absolutely nothing in response to Perl harbor or Hitler's invasion of Poland.
- Chassit, on 03/18/2008, -15/+3The Israelis, just like the Palestinians are nothing but child killing terrorists.
- borez, on 03/18/2008, -6/+13It's funny commenting on one of these articles in the UK and being dugg up, only to be fiercely dugg back down again as the pro Israeli brigade across the pond wakes up.
And no... I don't mean ALL Americans are pro Israel before you start. - renagadex2, on 03/18/2008, -10/+14Israeli targets = military
Palestinian targets = civilian
While I am in complete regret for violence and war, and especially civilian causalities, the only thing I can condemn is the intention. It's just not right.- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -6/+5Parent post buried for inaccuracy, lack of evidence, lack of citations, gross ignorance.
- txchica, on 03/19/2008, -2/+5Neo, come on now, you and I both know that Hamas is after the civilian population, evidence being all those unguided missiles they send up on a daily basis into border towns (citation would be the nightly news programs), they make no effort to go after military targets. That said, the Israelis also make bad decisions when they go overboard with the bull dozing of entire apt buildings or missiles being shot into apt buildings or taking out moving cars and having collateral damage, if they have to do the killing then they have the ability to go and assassinate them without the collateral damage. I think both sides have almost moved beyond peace being an option, something has to give soon and I hope it's not more innocent lives being lost on either side. I'm not sure if peace can be achieved, just look at the vitriol here at these sites, if you can't have a civil discussion here, then how do we expect those in Israel and Palestine to be able to do it, they live it everyday, we don't.
- renagadex2, on 03/19/2008, -1/+4Um name one terrorist bombing that wasn't targeted at Israeli civilians....
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -6/+5Parent post buried for inaccuracy, lack of evidence, lack of citations, gross ignorance.
- typicalusername, on 03/18/2008, -16/+9Propaganda Alert!
- esengulov, on 03/18/2008, -7/+11commenting for the sake of giving story additional boost and pushing it to the frontpage.period.
- cobbwobbles, on 03/18/2008, -8/+12Its time we leave Israel to defend themselves. America can no longer be the muscles for this traumatized bully.
- neocognitism, on 03/18/2008, -8/+11If anyone wonders whether the Megaphone Desktop Tool exists, or if the Ziontologist Israel Bury Brigade exists, and has hit this story, consider the following:
Have you EVER sent out a shout with the intention of getting your friends to bury, and not digg, an article?
I sure haven't. That's because that's a little bit too against the Freedom of Speech for my tastes. But if you are being paid to do PR then rounding up a bunch of rejects to do your burying is quite convenient. I hope everyone understands that's exactly what happens here on digg. PR companies or departments organizing riffraff against everyday Americans who stand on our own.
The question I have is how many of the riffraff are the insane Christian Ziontologists, versus the standard chickenhawk Likudnik/Shas Ziontologists.
Who knows? It's "Fair Game," (on) everybody!- DreadPirate, on 03/19/2008, -5/+6Guess what? Neither have I. Unlike many here, I don't hide my shouts. And despite your paranoia and name-calling, I am not part of any group. I just think that a group that targets civilians with suicide bombers wearing vests filled with rat-poison coated ball-bearings doesn't deserve much support.
- neocognitism, on 03/19/2008, -4/+6I actually believe that you aren't part of the group, DP, if that matters to you. You actually speak with reason and although I think you are wrong most of the time, I do think you are arguing for yourself, but I may be wrong who knows.
But the PR effort exists, you fool. The mere existence of the Megaphone Desktop Tool, with 100,000+ registered users, is proof all by itself that such ideas have been had by PR people, and implemented. Sending shouts to a coordinated group is a whole lot less sophisticated and most assuredly happens. Therefore I'm commenting on the ethics of the group more than the structure of the group.
It's not paranoia, it's an observation.
And if you hadn't noticed, this story is about an Islamic orphanage, which has no connection to Hamas at all much less their military wing as stated by multiple sources. What does exist, however, are many valid reasons for the IOF to use a fake Hamas connection as a pretext to take the entire area down. Did you read any of the articles? Remember that Hamas is a political party and already has all sorts of functions like these, so just saying it's connected to Hamas is not a valid reason.
- neocognitism, on 03/19/2008, -4/+6I actually believe that you aren't part of the group, DP, if that matters to you. You actually speak with reason and although I think you are wrong most of the time, I do think you are arguing for yourself, but I may be wrong who knows.
- DreadPirate, on 03/19/2008, -5/+6Guess what? Neither have I. Unlike many here, I don't hide my shouts. And despite your paranoia and name-calling, I am not part of any group. I just think that a group that targets civilians with suicide bombers wearing vests filled with rat-poison coated ball-bearings doesn't deserve much support.
- thecoolestguy, on 03/19/2008, -8/+8NO MORE US TAX DOLLARS TO ISRAEL! NO MORE MCCAIN, OR OBAMA, OR HILLARY!
NO MORE ISRAELI RUN US MEDIA!- foopirata, on 03/20/2008, -0/+5I think there's a knot in your panties. It's holding down your shift key.
- wpi97, on 03/20/2008, -0/+6Don't forget the Jews controlling all the banks, and using the blood of Christian babies to make matzah.
- foopirata, on 03/20/2008, -0/+5I think there's a knot in your panties. It's holding down your shift key.
- neko6, on 03/23/2008, -2/+4Nothing about this in BBC. Nothing about this in CNN. Nothing about this in Israeli media. Nothing about this even in Al-Jazeera, the Arab world's main outlet of anti-Israeli propaganda (true and false)
Obviously a fake story. At least the anti-Israelis can rejoice and refuel their juices of hatred.
Buried as inaccurate - will the lies never end? - TheHomeOffice, on 08/08/2008, -2/+3buried as inaccurate. I support Israels fight against their terrorist neighbors.
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