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Israel threatens - 3 years: 11 Israelis killed, 1 week: 50 Palestinians
guardian.co.uk — While I do not condone the killing of an Israeli woman yesterday, once again the disproportionate Israeli response proves who are the real terrorists. Apparently almost no one in Israel makes the connection between the relatively feeble attempts of Hamas to shell Israeli towns and the fact that Israel illegally occupies the Palestinian Territories.
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- hadees, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2That is such a ***** claim. First what exactly is proportionate to a constant rain of Qassam rocket? Should Israel randomly fire rockets in Gaza? Israel is doing what any nation would do which is trying to stop the attacks on their civilians. Lets not forget that Israel only responding to Qassam rocket fire. They wouldn't have done anything at all but Hamas was trying to provoke Israel because they though it might benefit them in some way in their fight with Fatah. Second Gaza isn't occupied by Israel. Israel does control the borders but merely to prevent more arms from being smuggled in. Even Egypt is ok with that. The Palestinians got exactly what they wanted. Israel left Gaza but instead of doing something with it they continue to attack Israel. Why should Israel give them any more land if Israel's good faith goes unrewarded?
Finally this shows again the bias some people have against Israel. I have not heard one person claiming Lebanon shelling the Palestinian camp disproportionate.- spoiled1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Zionist apologist.
- RightHand, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I'm guessing this is going to be a waste of time but anyway....
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/859556.html
Kawasmeh's resignation / Anarchy wins in Gaza - Haaretz - Israel News | May17
"Almost every large family or clan in Gaza has its own private army. This division is only schematic, since often (and very possibly most of the time), someone employed by one of the official services also belongs to a party militia, and when needed, he can also be found in the ranks of his family's private army. Thus the same person can belong to several different organizations simultaneously, or move from one to the other. He receives a weapon and a little money from his commanders in each organization.
Young men in Gaza have little to do except join one of these groups. Members of these groups are almost always unemployed, and the organization or militia is the only place where they can give content to their lives and feel a sense of belonging. Only within these organizations do they feel that they are worth something."
Background, to give a sense of any command structure that we might be dealing with. It explains why culprit names seem to vary for the same incident.
Now your question..."First what exactly is proportionate to a constant rain of Qassam rocket?" and I ask what damage was done. I know one lady died. I believe that it was a mistake. Most hit the ground far away from any real targets. The odd hits are MISTAKES, IMHO. Missiles are so erratic that some must go astray. That is no excuse but what we get as information will be refined down. It often suits both sides and the games they play, with the media. I have mainly only my reasoning and experience of knowing that nothing is black and white, for my conjecture. Should I continue? ...
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