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Israel's Messianic Jews Under Attack
time.com — Somebody disliked Ortiz and his beliefs enough to kill him and his family. He and his wife Leah were gone when somebody dropped off a bomb disguised as a present full of candy and chocolates. When his teenage son son plucked off a chocolate, it detonated a bomb powerful enough to blow out all the apartment's windows and be heard a mile away.
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- 911ArtStudent, on 06/11/2008, -4/+23FTA: "Messianic Jews, as these Jews who believe in Jesus are called, number just a few in Israel — anywhere between 6,000 and 15,000 — but they provoke hatred all out of proportion to their meager numbers...But lately, the outrage among extremist orthodox Jews has spilled into violence. Even after the Ariel bombing it has continued. Last month, when the deputy mayor of Or Yehuda, a town near Tel Aviv, found out that Messianic Jews had been passing out copies of the New Testament to a community of poor Ethiopian Jews, he ordered the books to be collected and they were set alight in a bonfire."
- Siegfriedson, on 08/17/2008, -0/+1"Last month, when the deputy mayor of Or Yehuda, a town near Tel Aviv, found out that Messianic Jews had been passing out copies of the New Testament to a community of poor Ethiopian Jews, he ordered the books to be collected and they were set alight in a bonfire."
WHAT?!?! I thought only those hateful, vile, goose-stepping NAZIS did that!!!
- Siegfriedson, on 08/17/2008, -0/+1"Last month, when the deputy mayor of Or Yehuda, a town near Tel Aviv, found out that Messianic Jews had been passing out copies of the New Testament to a community of poor Ethiopian Jews, he ordered the books to be collected and they were set alight in a bonfire."
- Conspiracy20, on 06/11/2008, -5/+20This MUST be wrong. Only Palestinians make bombs and kill children.....don't they?
- hadees, on 06/11/2008, -2/+2They just do it with more regularity.
- flogistan, on 06/11/2008, -2/+10Isn't there a special word for jews who believe jesus was the messiah?
- lucy22, on 06/11/2008, -1/+7I think it is "Messianic Jew", or christian.
- n0gnuz, on 06/11/2008, -5/+4The special word is 'target' apparently, as in, 'Blow up the target, Yitzhak.'
- Hilda21, on 06/11/2008, -4/+2I was confused because orthodox Jews (and secular?) also hope for a messiah to give them the world. I thought Netanyahu considered himself a candidate.
- hadees, on 06/11/2008, -0/+4Yeah it is called a Christian, believing Jesus is the Messiah and the son of G-d is incompatible with Judaism and hence why Christianity and Judaism aren't the same relgion.
Jews for Jesus is nothing more then an attempt to proselytize directly to Jews. Because they realize just how offensive it is given our long history together a number of major Churches have agreed, rightfully so, not to do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian-Jewish_reco ...
- neocognitism, on 06/11/2008, -5/+7More proof that the real terrorists murdering civilians are the colonists (aka settlers). They failed at making a life for themselves in Brooklyn or Phili, and are probably suffering from untreated schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, so Sheldon Adelson brainwashes them into fanatics, flys them over to Israel, gives them an automatic weapon, and points to the defenseless Palestinians trying to till a field, saying "see there? He's your enemy, and so are the rest of these prisoners. They all want to kill you so you have to kill them first, since we are the Chosen People!"
Not much different between them and Branch Davidians, except they are much more dangerous and mentally ill. - n0gnuz, on 06/11/2008, -6/+32000 years ago: Christians persecuted by Jews in Israel and Judea.
Now: Christians persecuted by Jews in new Israel established in Palestine.
Not much in the way of progress.- hadees, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4What happened was no doubt about it wrong and who ever committed the act should be punished to the full extent of the law. However we shouldn't pretend the motive was the persecution of Christians. The core issue is proselytizing and not that they were Christian.
- 911ArtStudent, on 06/11/2008, -5/+2The core issue is that there is no freedom to proselytize and bear witness in the land where Jesus was crucified. It's very likely this prohibition has to do with Jewish antagonism toward Christianity. This fact has been extensively documented and long preceded any Christian reprisal against Jewish peoples.
- hadees, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5Rocket99, so you are saying Christian attacks against Jews are justified because of Jewish "antagonism". Well you certainly are showing why you got banned from this site only to reregister which violates the TOS.
No attacks are justified, Jews against Christians or Christians against Jews.
The core issue is that proselytizing to Jews is amoral due to the long history of Jews being given the choice of converting or death. Most major groups of Christians agree and have pledged not to partake of such practices. This doesn't stop Jews from converting to Christianity if that is what they wish but it is wrong for Christians to actively seek out Jews for conversion. - foopirata, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5And more so - Judaism doesn't proselitize. We don't encourage conversion. If a person sincerely wants to change the denomination of their faith, it is between them and themselves.
We just ask the same to be extended to us. We don't like to open our doors in the Shabbat to be confronted by someone bringing "the good news", same way as I won't go into your Church and push down your throat that I believe the messiah hasn't been around yet.
Let people come to you. Don't force yourself upon them, and you'll get more believing believers. - Siegfriedson, on 08/17/2008, -0/+1Hadees: "Well you certainly are showing why you got banned from this site only to reregister which violates the TOS."
Shut up, you whiny kosherite.
- hadees, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5Rocket99, so you are saying Christian attacks against Jews are justified because of Jewish "antagonism". Well you certainly are showing why you got banned from this site only to reregister which violates the TOS.
- 911ArtStudent, on 06/11/2008, -5/+2The core issue is that there is no freedom to proselytize and bear witness in the land where Jesus was crucified. It's very likely this prohibition has to do with Jewish antagonism toward Christianity. This fact has been extensively documented and long preceded any Christian reprisal against Jewish peoples.
- monsieurginger, on 06/11/2008, -0/+5WTF ----- just because there is one incident where a christian gets attacked in Israel, doesn't mean Israel or the mob prosecutes christians.
- Siegfriedson, on 08/17/2008, -0/+1Read the whole article, dingbat. Or don't you have a 3-minute attention span?
- hadees, on 06/11/2008, -1/+4What happened was no doubt about it wrong and who ever committed the act should be punished to the full extent of the law. However we shouldn't pretend the motive was the persecution of Christians. The core issue is proselytizing and not that they were Christian.
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