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- ordig, on 01/07/2009, -47/+180Yeah the west doesn't defend Israel at all... we just sell them TONS of weapons.
- Layne, on 01/07/2009, -31/+127Buried for immediately trying to use the holocaust as justification for pretty much anything.
- chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -6/+68..and money.
US gives Israel 2.5billion dollars annually, so they can buy weapons. That number increases to 3bil in 2009. - IronDonut, on 01/07/2009, -15/+64It's amazing how fast the oppressed have become the oppressors 60 years?
- Nodaki, on 01/07/2009, -13/+60"As Iran gets a nuclear weapon and so the potential for another Holocaust against the Jews and world opinion does nothing, I am not so sure that the errors of world opinion are so much to be preferred to the errors of Israel."
The doctrine of pre-emptive war is what this article is defending. Because some terrible attrocity has happened in the past makes it necessary that a terrible attrocity needs to be done now in order for theoretical terrible attrocity to never occur. Does this not make sense to everyone? - SamSks, on 01/07/2009, -17/+62The World won't defend it?!?! WTF?
So all those free weapons (2.4 Billion dollars in US aid to Israel goes to buying the World's most advanced weapons) don't count?
Way to build credibility there! - clone206, on 01/07/2009, -14/+57The horrors of the holocaust do not justify creating a humanitarian disaster in the name of fighting yesterday's war.
- moulin1, on 01/07/2009, -18/+61World opinion created the state of Israel. UN Resolution 181 established a jewish state in Palestine in 1947. It was the UN and world sympathy for the jewish people that gave the zionists their homeland. Now Israel bombs UN facilities and tells the world "who cares what you think".
- MiddleAmerica, on 01/07/2009, -10/+49
QUESTION:
Q - What is the excuse that Israelis use for stealing their neighbors land?
A - Because it was already theirs! Apparently God gave them (Israelites) that land thousands of years ago (to Abraham I believe).
Here's a thought experiment for everyone.
If the US had large parts of our country stolen & occupied by another nation, clearly in violation of international law, wouldn't the US fight back?
And if the US only had crude rockets, wouldn't they use them?
Hamas wants their stolen land back as well as their human rights.
Israel has more UN resolutions against them than any other country due to their crimes against their neighbors.
The Palestinians literally have no defense, hence the term defenseless. Where as the US has bought Israel the best military in the world.
The rockets (fireworks almost) that Hamas shoots into their stolen occupied land have little effect, few deaths, etc compared to what the Israelis do to the Palestinians everyday.
Israel has nuclear weapons, won't admit to it, won't allow inspections, never signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, & regularly threatens & brutally attacks their neighbors, often without just cause, as in this case.
Israel does everything possible to drive Arabs off their own land thru terror, violence, economic restrictions, torture, starvation & more, often breaking international laws.
- Ellipsys, on 01/07/2009, -7/+45Why exactly do the "Jews need a home". I mean, if every group of people deserves a home, then why aren't we all giving the Native Americans back their land? What about the Palestinian people, and all the people that were there in the area before the creation of Israel? Don't they "need a home" too? Or if they don't, why are the Jewish people so special they deserve a religious homeland to be created where other people are already living? Does every people deserve to have dominance over the land their ancestors occupied? If so, the map really has to change. If you are to believe in Judaism being conferred as a "race" I am of partial Jewish heritage. You want to know where my "home" is? Right here in America.
I'm guessing you are not open to new ideas, but if you want to see another perspective, I suggest you read http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/kabd_eng.html - it shows exactly why the countries near Israel object to their methodologies and practices - they are not just Muslims that hate Jews.
I await burial by the Megaphone-using and Israel-can-do-no-wrong crowd. - chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -54/+90Yep, keep pushing that propaganda, lots will soak it up like butter on toast.
Not me though. - horseradish2, on 01/07/2009, -8/+44I hardly find it practical to place blame on Palestinians to apologize to Israel and thus allow them to live in peace. Israel's existence after Herzls' ideals was based on the politcking of western nations and double booking that slot of land in exchange for participation in war. It can hardly be left to Palestine, who originally was there, to be at fault for being angry when told half of their country was to be divided. If you walked into my flat and commandeered half of it, I might not be as quick to apologize to you and say "lets live in peace." Not that violently protesting you is the path to take, but simplifying matters and using emotional rhetoric laden within Holocaust imagery is no way to solve any of the problems in that area.
- munawarali2, on 01/07/2009, -1/+33Buy? Israel is the number 1 US Foreign donation recipient.
- ansatsu29, on 01/07/2009, -17/+47I dont support Israel, nor the philosophies of Hamas in regards to this matter. But I condone the violence in that region and its effect in the future generations.
What Israel and Hamas are doing is sowing and harvesting violence - adding vitriol to the dangerous cycle of violence which also serve as a precursor towards terrorism. - dagr8tim, on 01/07/2009, -7/+36Buried as a load of *****. The US provides millions for the "defence" if Israel.
- slyzxx, on 01/07/2009, -12/+40650 Palestinians dead 20 Israels
- gabbagabba, on 01/07/2009, -6/+33The Irony in using the Holocaust to justify the ethnic cleansing of palestinians.
- zombiedictator, on 01/07/2009, -13/+40So let me get this straight. Palestinian land was taken by the British to create the state of Israel, and the Palestinians are angry because they're anti-Semitic?
Oh, and part of that land they took from religious fanatics also contains the holiest place ON EARTH.
Yep. Gotta be anti-Semitism!
This article is terrible. It's the typical far-right wing Zionism that refuses to acknowledge the fundamental problem Palestinians have with Israel and instead blame the specter of anti-Semitism and another Holocaust. Iran is broke without $150 a barrel oil, and you're going to bring up the "Iran is a terrorist state run by Hitler-lite who will soon get nukes" Bushism? Please.
I don't know what the solution is to the Israel/Palestinian problem, but I do know if they carved out a piece of Southern Germany for the Jews instead of Palestine wouldn't be having this discussion. - lonelymiddle1, on 01/07/2009, -3/+29How is it a liberal position to defend Palestine? I don't, at least in this instance, but still, how is it "liberal?"
- feezus, on 01/07/2009, -12/+37I guess I'm the only person that doesn't understand this whole thing.
Step 1: Kick the Palestinians out of Israel and move them to the Gaza strip.
Step 2: Defend Israel when the Palestinians get pissy from being kicked out of their home? - pintomp3, on 01/07/2009, -16/+40The article is one big Godwin.
- LJU1492, on 01/07/2009, -75/+98War is bad, war brings with it collateral damage, it cannot be avoided, even with the best weapons.
As the point of the article, the Jews need a home, the Jews were given Israel as it was the best place for them. It was their ancient home. The Muslims don't like Jews and want them out, instead of saying you do your thing, we'll do ours, and we'll just stay out of each others way.
Hamas is to blame for this situation, they are the aggressors, and Israel is protecting it's people. They have my full support. - gabbagabba, on 01/07/2009, -22/+45Give the Palestinians back their land.
- Dalhectar, on 01/07/2009, -14/+36I find it interesting that a colonial government can just give a whole landmass away to a non-indigenous population and the people who live there are supposed to just bend over and take the rape.
Rather than Europe simply deal with its own antisemitism in the 40's they offload a whole population outside of Europe, without any regard for the people already there. They proceed to ethnically cleanse the area themselves, and now millions of Palestinians are effectively refugees exported from their home territory.
Kick a people out of their country, treat them as non-citizens in their territory, and its obvious that they will fight back. If you were in the Palestinian shoes, you would resist as well. If you were stuck in a landscape like Gaza, and for 18 months suffered under a blockade that didn't allow humanitarian goods to enter, if you loved your family, you would find violence a reasonable option. - Hetman, on 01/07/2009, -12/+34Hey isreal. We will give you texas. And then you do not have to worry about dealing with genocide. Sounds good to me. You can even call it isreal if you want.
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -40/+62Israel was basically set up to wipe out all Palestinians, and it's ironic, because they are said to be a protective ground for victims of the holocaust, and now they're doing their own holocaust.
This is just sad. Why is this ***** version of events on Digg? Buried. - THETEH, on 01/07/2009, -6/+28To blame this entire conflict on a single group would be oversimplifying it to the extreme. I think both sides are at fault for the increasingly horrific violence taking place there.
- hamobu, on 01/07/2009, -27/+48Yet another "israel is only defending itself" article. That is not really an argument, but more of a hypnotic mantra. Zionists take advice from Lenin: if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes truth.
- ansatsu29, on 01/07/2009, -1/+22Aw, my bad there...
*bad english attack*
rather..condemn it. Not condone.
Erratum: I condemn the violence in that region and its effects in the future generations.
There, I fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out. :)
Next time, it will be helpful you constructively criticize the person first, rather insulting his capacity or intelligence. - inactive, on 01/07/2009, -16/+37"As the point of the article, the Jews need a home"
We should offer them part of Montana. - eurodele, on 01/07/2009, -4/+24I think that native Montanans might have something to say about that. After all, we've seen what happened to the Palestinians.
- MxM111, on 01/07/2009, -2/+22There are two "wests": West Europe, or simply EU, does not defend Israel. USA does.
- inactive, on 01/07/2009, -10/+30That is so much rubbish! The US gives Israel $2.5 billion/year, which is uses to buy weapons from the US. It also controls much of the US media.
These putzes won't tell you about how Hamas actually observed the cease fire until the Israelis tried to assassinate two Hamas leaders. It was only then that the rockets started being fired. They also won't tell you they won't allow medical supplies into Gaza, and that they rammed the US boat, the Dignity, which was carrying medical supplies.
Not only that, but the Israeli army uses Palestinian children as human shields.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A - MiddleAmerica, on 01/07/2009, -25/+44
Israel always targets ambulances in these brief wars it causes.
Then in peace time it blocks ambulances from getting to the hospitals, often killing patients.
Why? They think they are punishing the Palestinians for staying, essentially trying to make it unbearable for them so that they will permanently flee Palestine so Israel can expand & reclaim the land God gave to them via Abraham thousands of years ago.
Israeli top officials have said this since the early 70s, but they claim its officially not part of their policies. Yet, if you read the Israeli news they will slip on occasion & let their true thoughts be known.
Keep in mind that their government is intertwined with their religion. Even two of their political parties in their "Congress" are religious extremists.
Their country's top Rabbis also often can give a window into what is behind the foreign policies of the last few decades.
They just want the Palestinians to leave or die, they don't really care because their beliefs say Arabs, as well as other non-Jews are soulless animals, a lower much form of life. (Talmud)
I ***** you not.
- brstilson, on 01/07/2009, -6/+25tasine, I find your characterization of the Palestinian people as "slobs" and "savages" patently offensive. It's the same tactic the US used to justify slavery, as well as to wipe out masses of native americans. If I were you I'd endeavor to hide your racism a little better.
- YoungLiar, on 01/07/2009, -31/+49it's written by a guy named FINKELSTEIN, of course this article is biased.
- brstilson, on 01/07/2009, -2/+20Not to mention the fact that the Israeli military has also rammed and sunk US boats delivering food and medicine to the Palestinians.
- chumprock, on 01/07/2009, -7/+24No. I find both sides despicable, and I wont blindly digg obvious lies meant to promote a propagandist agenda.
- Zacktopia, on 01/07/2009, -60/+77The commentary makes a point which Israel's detractors invariably miss:
"...world opinion weeps now for Anne Frank. But world opinion did not save her."
It appears that world opinion is all too willing to downplay and whitewash the threats to Israel and to allow the Jewish state to be exterminated - exactly as was done to Anne Frank. - MiddleAmerica, on 01/07/2009, -10/+26
Why do we financially support Israel with our hard earned tax dollars?
They just turn around & buy our weapons.
But, that's a lousy business model if I've ever heard of one.
Why don't we spend the money directly with our weapons manufacturers & give our troops the equipment they need?
Or better yet, lets save the money!
- gabbagabba, on 01/07/2009, -1/+16The holocaust should not be used as justification for ethnic cleansing.
The Germans killed millions of jews, therefore the jews can kill and displace millions of palestinians. - ApokalypseNow, on 01/07/2009, -13/+28Are you forgetting that Hamas launches missile attacks from such civilian cites specifically for propaganda purposes like that which you are espousing here? Or that those very civilians *elected* Hamas, knowing that they had a history of doing exactly this? I'm not saying that Israel is completely innocent blameless here, but given the circumstances that you seem to be ignoring, I have to place the lion's share of the blame firmly on Hamas here.
- lonelymiddle1, on 01/07/2009, -7/+21Quit associating "liberals" with defense of terror or defense of Palestine. Correlation is not causation. Just because people with piercings or mohawks support something doesn't make it "liberal." Classifications like this cause so much unnecessary bickering.
- absurdist, on 01/07/2009, -1/+14I wasn't aware that what bababooey141 said could be construed as left or right. But your incredible bias is visible to all, DreadPirate.
- DarkBlueAnt, on 01/07/2009, -11/+24Can't we just relocate Isreal to New Jersey or something? It's been nothing but trouble since it was created.
- badfishmedia, on 01/07/2009, -12/+25Complete and utter *****!!
- cheeseron, on 01/07/2009, -3/+16It's not Muslims it's Hamas. Hamas is a radical group that everyone in the Middle East hates.
- RAGEdemon, on 01/07/2009, -16/+28...and $30 Billion over the next 10 years. WTF.
And then they wonder why people want to smash planes into their buildings. Poor innocent America. - tgc1, on 01/07/2009, -5/+17And where does Israel get the money to develop "their own" weapons SuperVepr308?
- Falldog, on 01/07/2009, -5/+17Not enough people realize that this is a two sided conflict, two sides that are both to fault and the victim. Both sides need to commit to peace. Both sides feature large civilian populations that want peace, and large populations which are victims of constant propaganda.
People express this shock and awe about Israel going into Gaza and after the people who broke a ceasefire by firing rockets at them. You can't just fire rockets at another nation and expect no retaliation.
It sucks that innocent civilians are being caught in the crossfire, but so is the sinister nature of war. It happens when we, the US, enter wars as well. It happened in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq. Of course it doesn't help that Hamas is fighting from within a heavily populated area and has no qualms about killing innocent Israelis or causing the death of fellow Palestinians around them. -
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