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- wreckosaurus, on 07/08/2008, -2/+44Samir Kuntar, this is one of the guys that Israel is releasing in the exchange: Kuntar was convicted for a 1979 attack in which he shot and killed an Israeli man in front of his 4-year-old daughter before smashing her head against a rock and tossing her into the sea. The victim's 2-year-old daughter was accidentally smothered by her mother, who tried to keep her quiet as they hid from the attackers. He is hailed as a hero by Hezbollah.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/israel.h ... - josh4rim, on 07/08/2008, -12/+37Israel fills their part of the deal, as normal. Hezbollah doesn't, as normal. Israel sucks it up because the world says there is a chance for peace. Hezbollah attacks Israel.
It has worked this way for decades, it won't be any different this time. - ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -5/+30The five Lebanese prisoners are alive and the 2 Israeli soldiers are not; if they are it would be a miracle.
- SaladCactusKing, on 07/08/2008, -3/+21Hezbollah killed two POWs and is now sending back their remains. Israel gives back a man who executed a man then proceeded to smash said victim's four year old daughter's skull in. Samir Kuntar is alive and well, but these soldiers are dead.
If this is how peace will be earned, then so be it. But if I could, I'd send Samir Kantar back in a bodybag too. - wisam, on 07/08/2008, -1/+18I'm really shocked by what this guy has done. What he did was a terrible thing. I heard about this guy before, but only as a long time Lebanese prisoner. He was even portrayed as a freedom fighter.
I guess I have to watch less of Al-Manar TV. :) - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -4/+20Do you know that Hezbollah is a Terrorist group, that has killed infinite civilians? Including attacks on American targets in Lebanon and Jewish(Not Israeli, Jewish) targets around the world?
Do you know that Israel invaded Lebanon, in order to stop terrorist actions performed by Lebanese in Israeli territories?
Do you know that Israel hasn't occupied Lebanese land for over 8 years now, and yet Hezbollah has kidnapped and killed soldiers within Israel?
Do you know that the last War in Lebanon was caused because of one of those unprovoked kidnappings by Hezbollah?
Do you know that Hezbollah later used Lebanese schools and villages to hide rockets that were fired towards Israeli towns?
Lebanese people want peace. Israeli people want peace as well. Lebanese people will receive peace when they finally act against Terrorists and Militias, and decide to become a sovereign country. They were given that exact chance after Israel withdrew in 2000, and the Syrians took out their personnel a few years later. Instead of using this to begin a way of peace, this was used to further strike into Israel, proving to Israel that no matter how much Israelis want peace, there is no partner willing to seek it? - Mr_Lyle, on 07/08/2008, -5/+21Buried as inaccurate. I read on digg that all the arab prisoners Israel is holding are poor, innocent people who's houses were broken into in the middle of the night by Israeli soldiers at random and they were dragged out kicking and screaming while their children were watching. Ya know, just cause they're sadistic bastards and get off on that sorta thing.
/sarcasm - SethEllis, on 07/08/2008, -6/+21What a crappy deal for Israel. They release 5 murders in exchange for 2 dead bodies? I'm surprised they agreed to it.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -1/+12I will take this chance to, instead of bashing either side of the conflict, to hope that this would be the first stone towards a real peace agreement and a long term cooperation. (i know the situation is quite volatile) but I want to be positive that things can work for better.Also would like to congratulate Egypt(i believe) as a mediator for the succesful(?) truce.
- shayben, on 07/08/2008, -2/+12Do you know that Israel invaded Lebanon in 82 because of an assassination attempt on an Israeli Ambassador by the PLO (Yasser Arafat, the leader of the PLO was banished to Lebanon at the time)?
Do you know that no one is trying to take the houses of Lebanese, and Israel is simply trying to protect their borders?
Do you know that all destruction that was ever done to Lebanon is a result of the atrocities terrorist organizations such as Hezbollah commit every day?
The rest of your post is fine. - battleangel7, on 07/08/2008, -10/+20So the Lebanese get two terrorists back,
and the Israels get back a bag of bones. - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -4/+13What an awful story... Reading it, I had tears in my eyes. Realizing that this man would not only be released, but he will be welcomed as a hero back in Lebanon just made full of Rage. If I were an Israeli soldier in captivity, I'd rather stay there, and endure daily torture by terrorists, than know that this peace of scum was released in exchange for me.
- Sanduu, on 07/08/2008, -1/+9A good news was if they ended fights
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -2/+9Stop impersonating other users.
Israel retaliated for the kidnapping. The only thing that would call for another retalation, is if the soldiers were alive when they were captured, but were killed in captivity. Either case, all out war is not a good idea for anyone. - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7You justify the smashing of a 4 year old girls skull?
What kind of animal are you? - foopirata, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Mostly because in the cases of Hezbolah _soldiers_ we don't go over the border looking for them during a lull in combat. We capture them during combat operations.
Hizzb'Allah, on the other hand, crossed the border under cover of diversionary action at a period when no combat was taking place, with the explicit objective of kidnapping soldiers, _as_they_themselves_declare. - gcnaddict, on 07/08/2008, -4/+10I don't take sides on these issues, but have you considered the other point of view? Those living under Hezbollah's rule likely think of Hezbollah as freedom fighters, defenders of their beliefs, etc.
Same way we think we Americans think our military defends our freedom, the Israelis think the Israeli Army defends Israel's values, etc.
One man's terrorist is, more likely than not, another man's freedom fighter. (The only exceptions might be the FARC and Al Qaeda). - SaladCactusKing, on 07/08/2008, -1/+7Impersonating users is against Digg TOS. Reported.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+5Troll alert -
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Block function engaged. - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+6Oh, that was your point?
A christian leader is allied with Hezbollah, so that makes Hezbollah's attacks on the Lebanese government okay?
Geez, according to that logic, Israel are the good guys also, since they were allied with the Christians in South Lebanon during 1982-2000. - ExtraEye, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5The problem with the deal is, in my opinion, that I don't see a reason for kidnappers to leave their prisoner alive if they can get trade him as a body...
- archiesteel, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5"Actually Lebanon would have been reduced to the rubble it needs to be. At least the southern part."
If you really think that way, you are part of the problem. You can't win peace by force alone - you need justice as well. Overwhelming force will only create more problems down the road when the root causes are not addressed. - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+5If dead, an autopsy can tell when they were killed, and if it happened in the past few months. Let's wait until we draw conclusions.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7Burried as propaganda. Israeli soldiers would never knowingly target a child or an innocent civilian.
In addition, Hezbollah is a militia, they have soldiers, snipers, advanced communication and intelligence gear, anti tank missiles, artillery and they were even able to disable an Israeli war ship with an anti-ship missile they got from Iran.
The Qana incident was tragic. It is the direct result of Hezbollah SOLDIERS, using the Lebanese people as human sheilds, firing rockets and hiding weapons in dense civilian populations.
This was indeed tragic. Israel had incorrect intelligence of terrorist hiding in that building, and thought it was empty of civilians. These are the casualities of war.
At least when Israel kills innocent civilians, they investigate into it. When Israels enemies kill Israeli civilians, they go celebrating on the streets, singing and throwing candies. - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7You must suck at gambling.
- inactive, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7In any war up to this point, if the term "terrorism" were around, the enemy would have been called "terrorists" and there would have never been a peace treaty. This whole idea of "we don't negotiate with terrorists" is ludicrous, considering we started a "War on Terror." Every war has to end with a peace treaty, otherwise its not war, its genocide. Genocide is defined as the systematic killing of people of a certain religion, race, or political affiliation. If you want genocide on your conscience, keep up this ideal of not negotiating with terrorists.
- swrostmore, on 07/08/2008, -4/+8[citation needed]
- medfreak, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5Israel stopped at nothing from using all of its military power. Top of the line bunker busters, "smart" bombs, spy satellites and Air attacks. The only thing left would have been using nukes. Considering southern Lebanon's closeness to Northern Israel, that is out of the question.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -4/+7Long time Israeli prisoners get to see a judge, they get represented, and tried according to Israeli law.
It would take a fool to believe that palestinian fighters result to only throwing stones at tanks. They have firearms, explosives, and they have claimed the lives of thousands of Israelis, soldiers and civilians. - dp1140a, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4I'm one of those Kikes you speak of. Tell you what big man. If you think you got it in you why not send me your address and you and you can come and try all that ***** you're talking about with me. I'll be your Huckleberry.
- foopirata, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5Considering that that was Hizzb'Allah's request, it probably goes to show how they see things.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+4Guess who else is more hostile towards Hezbollah than the Israeli government is?
http://www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?sect ...
"Asharq Al-Awsat is the world's premier pan-Arab daily newspaper, Printed simultaneously on four continents in 12 cities."
Or is he an Ultra-Zionist as well? - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6The fights between Hezbollah and Israel are over. Now that there is a cease fire, Hezbollah is using the time to rebuild its military abilities, and divert their arms for internal Lebanese conflicts. Just a few months ago, they were using the same weapons they used to attack Israel, to try and bring down the Lebanese government.
Why? Well, according to Hezbollah, they are "Lebanon in Iran, and Iran in Lebanon". - medfreak, on 07/08/2008, -4/+7If the Israeli soldiers are dead, it would be most likely secondary to their wounds they sustained in battle, not to their ill treatment. But at the moment, no one has any clue about their condition regardless of all the faux reports being circulated.
- archiesteel, on 07/08/2008, -4/+7Tech in itself isn't sufficient to win a war.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -2/+5Al Jazeera is funded by the Emir of Qatar. I guess it isn't neutral and balanced enough for you until it coincides with they way you view the world, ha?
Well, here's what your neutral and balanced source has to say about Hezbollah's coup attempt:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/ ... - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+61. Please explain how Israel was "evil" towards Lebanon in the years from 2000 (when Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon) and 2006, where 3 different kidnappings of Israeli Soldiers and Civilians by Hezbollah terrorists were performed.
2. How is someone that was captured in a Terrorist act of crossing an International border, and kidnapping soldiers that were patrolling the border, a prisoner of war? - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+6I apologize for my ***** and propaganda. I tend to be easily affected by sources such as Asharq Alawast, the Largest Arab Newspaper in the world.
Here's what the editor-in-chief has to say about Hezbollah and Its attempt of a military take over of Lebanon:
http://www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?sect ... - inactive, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Please stop spamming Digg with this crap.
Buried, Reported, then BLOCKED. - stfucupcake, on 07/08/2008, -0/+2Please don't feed the trolls.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5:/
* but that he will
* made me full of rage
* piece of scum - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -4/+6What it means is that Israel values it's soldiers and civilians more than the terrorist organizations do. The Israeli soldiers were kidnapped while patrolling the Israeli border, within Israeli land (recognized as the official border by the UN and the entire world). Israel has a moral obligation to return these soldiers. If it didn't it would have no justification sending other soldiers to defend its borders.
The terrorists on the other hand, went to die knowingly, believing that killing Israelis will grant them a seat in heaven, a side 72 mustached virgins. - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -5/+7Israel has withdrawn from Lebanon in 2000. Since that withdrawal, Hezbollah fighters have crossed the international border twice, attacking border patrols, and kidnapping Israeli soldiers. In addition, they have kidnapped an Israeli business man while doing business outside of Israel.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,5 ...
- archiesteel, on 07/08/2008, -2/+4You know that far more Palestinians civilians (including women and children) have died from Israeli attacks than the other way around, right?
How much more is an Israeli life worth than a Palestinian one?
- No peace without negotiations - dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -3/+5Wow TiKoZ, excellent and valid claim. You win this time.
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -1/+3Nope. There is no antisemitism on Digg. It's all just rightful objections to Israels policies.
- chrissku, on 07/08/2008, -7/+9Why is Israel negotiating with a terrorist organization?
- dkapuchino, on 07/08/2008, -4/+6A freedom fighter fights soldiers and governments. A terrorist shatters a 4 year old Israeli girl's skull with his gun, and dumps her body in the sea.
As for considering the other point of view - Here are a few articles from the Asharq Alawsat newspaper. This is the leading Arab newspaper, I'd even call it the voice of the Arabs:
Nasrallah Does Not Represent Lebanon - http://www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?sect ...
"The leader of the divine party is more obsessed with the Iranian position than he is with Lebanese peace and security. He was the one who previously stated that Lebanon is an open battlefield and was responsible for the invalidation of the state after he dragged Lebanon into the 2006 war, with unprecedented repercussions – and he admits to that."
http://www.asharqalawsat.com/english/news.asp?sect ...
"The Legend of Hezbollah ceased to be after it turned its weapons internally on Lebanon. In the wake of [Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan] Nasrallah's speech and after declaring war on Siniora's government;" ... "This lie about Hezbollah's resistance is one we have encountered often in our contemporary history, and we still continue to believe it and argue over it even though we know that it is nothing but a lie." - inactive, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2"1. Human Rights Watch. I never knew they were Islamic terrorist propaganda agency
2. Human shields is a proven lie."
1. HRW takes a strikingly anti-Israel bias. Show me a report about rockets being fired into Israel.
2. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/20/israel
"Palestinians use human shield to halt Israeli air strike on militants' homes"
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1120/p01s02-wome.htm ...
Palestinian human shields give Israel pause
^This one they actually acknowledge that they are human shields setting up defense to protect not just their homes (which Israel called them to warn they would be in danger because of their proximity to a terrorist safe house) but a safe house for terrorists. -
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