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Iraqi Insurgents plot to use school as massive bomb

cnn.com — Soldiers today found a school being built north of Baghdad was planned to be used a massive bomb. The school was planned on housing hundreds of girls and would have been the site of the worst terrorism in Iraq to date. The plan was foiled when troops found detonating wire near the school and traced it to the school

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  • Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+84I'm no fan of Pres. Bush or this BS war, but man those terrorists are some cold hearted scumbags. Things like this make it easy to see why people would want to hunt down every single one of them like dogs. It sickens me to see these bastards victimizing the most vulnerable, innocent, and precious people in the world, a school full of little girls. Horrible.
    • m3t00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29Have to wonder where the construction workers came from. Surely no locals would have helped kill their own daughters. Hard to comprehend how it could have been done with no locals noticing before "troopers" uncovered the plot. If they were locals... I have no hope for any sort of peaceful existence for a long time in Iraq.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3"Surely no" always begets a No True Scotsman fallacy.
    • Maninthemiddle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22And today another girls school in Pakestan was targeted. Once again (he preached mightily) support of the Iraq war, or lack of same cannot possibly mask the murderous, misogynistic core of these people. This should be, with little debate - a cause for common condemnation be they left, right, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Hindu (et al) or agnostic. Whether you are a KOS Kid or subscribe to the Limbaugh Letter, actions like this should cause a pit in your core.
    • mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -28/+8This information brought to you by the same people who brought you the Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch stories.
    • Wargalas, on 10/12/2007, -26/+28Waiting for the liberals to pipe up and say "We must leave Iraq now!". If we had left on their original time frame, these girls would be dead. I'd love to hear the justification now? So if our guys found this and we resisted the original time line that Democrats asked for a while back, does that mean that George Bush was right? Nah, this is Digg, someone will come up with some crazy idea on how liberals are still right and Bush is the cause of gingivitis.
    • SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10The initial battles were fought against were sometimes against Sunni groups who were loyal to Saddam and were fighting for his government. Now, we are dealing with terrorists who are not fighting for anything other than the deaths of as many people as possible.

      We should all note that as many innocent Iraqis die in daily attacks, sometimes, as died in the VT shooting. This is the horrific situation they deal with. It's so awful to lose 30 innocents in one day in an isolated event; it's even worse to have it happen on a daily basis.
    • mulling, on 10/12/2007, -22/+32Let's not forget one important fact:

      Before the invasion, there were absolutely no terrorists in Iraq. Post-invasion, Iraq has become a terrorist summer camp and training ground.

      Should we really be listening to the people who turned Iraq into a terrorist Club Med? Oh, and let's not forget that all the Iraqis hate us, and as long as we're there we will continue to be stuck in the crossfire of a Sunni-Shia blood feud.

      Leaving Iraq is not "surrendering." There is no army there to oppose us, and there is nothing to win. Pulling out of Iraq would be what alcoholics refer to as a "moment of clarity."
    • Infowarmachine, on 10/12/2007, -36/+5if bush and is cronies can knowiningly murder 3000 on 9/11, and then send hundreds of thousands of our troops to iraq to die and murder hundreds of thousands of iraqis, i would more quickly assume this was planned by us or UK or isreal, rather than the very people who live there, and whos children go to the school...
    • detlev409, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Luckily, Warmachine, not many are as gullible as you.
    • doodlebumm, on 10/12/2007, -12/+19@mulling

      "Before the invasion, there were absolutely no terrorists in Iraq."

      What a dumb ass! What would you call Sadam, who ordered the killing of tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of the people he should have been protecting? Go pull your head out of your ass so that your ass doesn't look so dumb!!
    • Wargalas, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17@mulling
      Let's not forget one important fact:
      Before the invasion, there were absolutely no terrorists in Iraq. Post-invasion, Iraq has become a terrorist summer camp and training ground.
      Should we really be listening to the people who turned Iraq into a terrorist Club Med? Oh, and let's not forget that all the Iraqis hate us, and as long as we're there we will continue to be stuck in the crossfire of a Sunni-Shia blood feud.
      Leaving Iraq is not "surrendering." There is no army there to oppose us, and there is nothing to win. Pulling out of Iraq would be what alcoholics refer to as a "moment of clarity."


      *****. All Iraqi's hate us? If that was the case, we'd see a significantly higher body count on both sides. If they hated us, why are we getting bad guys out of neighborhoods based upon tips we've gotten from civilians? Why are there people on Al-Jazeera praising our invasion?

      There weren't terrorists in Iraq before we came in? Well explain al-Zarqirwi, and Moqtada al-Sadr who was wanted for murder before we invaded.

      The terrorists who came to Iraq knew they could get into Iraq a lot easier than getting into New York. Plus, killing Americans, soldier or not, is still killing Americans in their eyes.

      And finally, pulling out of Iraq before the Iraqi's have set up security IS surrendering. You're surrendering to terrorists who will use this as a propaganda tool who say "See, I told you we'd win against the American's."

      Your short sightedness is frightening, you're willing to let school girls die in attacks and leave them with no one to defend them.

      How do I know all of this? I have friends and family in Iraq at this very moment who tell me what's going on rather than having cnn tell me what's going on. The only reason why insurgents think they can win is because they see Americans like you who say they can win and how we should pull out.

      Wargalas
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3@wargalas -- Do you understand that al Qaeda's mission is to keep the US in that place as long as possible, with the ultimate goal being the collapse of our economy? I'm still amazed that there are people like you who believe that they are trying to make us leave. al Qaeda's stated goal was to attack us until we were suckered into invading, by their words, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and, ideally, Somalia as well. So far, they have accomplished two out of four. Once we had inserted a sufficient number of troops, making it difficult to extricate ourselves, they then launch attacks on the population to fuel sectarian violence, making it even more difficult for us to leave. al Qaeda has succeeded beyond their wildest expectations because of our leaders' idiocy and stubbornness.
      Get this through your mind. al Qaeda would not consider our withdrawal a success. They would consider it a failure. They have successfully manipulated us into a situation where we are burning over $300,000 per minute. $300,000 per minute! ...and growing! This is unsustainable. And, people like you, who are not demanding a quick victory from our leaders, are unintentional agents of al Qaeda.
    • BlackSlave, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1I bet that scumbag name Barrack Obama did this. I won't be voting in the next election.
    • bmcnally, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6More and more the Iraqis are seeking to have a hand in their own government. While they might not have any love for the US, they certainly want a piece of the pie. I think that the more that these foreign terrorists attack them, the more the warring factions are coming to the bargaining table, knowing that if they do not work together to run their country, they will be destroyed by outside forces.
    • Oakes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Has anyone noticed that every time diggers bring themselves to criticize terrorists, they always qualify the statement by saying "I'm no fan of Bush, but..."? What's up with that? How does opposing the slaughter of little girls even imply you're a fan of Bush?

      I'm no fan of Bush, but murder is wrong.
    • SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@d00ley
      This is the cheapest war in history by percentage of GDP. Looks like Al-Qaeda really ***** up if their goal was to have us run out of money paying for a war.

      (Not that I'm defending the war itself).
    • Y2JCrisis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oakes,

      I put that little disclaimer before my comments about hunting terrorists like dogs and etc. etc. to point out that I am NOT a right-wing *****, but these scumbags are so awful that my visceral reaction to them makes me understand the feelings that right-wing assholes have toward them.

      It's a statement of unity with my fellow Americans in feelings toward the people who would victimize innocent children. Though, I'm really glad some of you folks find that this is yet another opportunity for bi-partisan bickering and supposed "cheap shots" at one another, no matter how predictable and asinine your comments are. This is not "proof" of anything to do with the war in Iraq. Not proof that we shouldn't be in Iraq, nor proof that we should be there. It is only proof of how disgusting terrorists are willing to be to promote their own selfish goals.
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Remember, the war has just begun. Whenever people compare this war to past wars, they always seem to go on the assumption that the Iraq war has concluded. Currently, we have already spent more money in Iraq than the amount (adjusted for inflation) that we spent for the entire Vietnam war. At this point in the Iraq war (year five), more soldiers have died than had died at the same point in the Vietnam war. Also, comparing the war budget to GDP only is not an accurate indicator of the stresses it is placing on our economy. You must factor in that we are running a large deficit, record debt, and the dollar is extremely week. You also must factor in that we are having to borrow every single penny that is being spent on the war.
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Also, the Iraq war has caused oil, the lifeblood of our economy, to almost triple. This is the biggest stress to our and the world's economy.
    • floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Before the invasion, there were absolutely no terrorists in Iraq. Post-invasion, Iraq has become a terrorist summer camp and training ground.

      Wait weren't we killing 5000 kids a month before the war with our Sanctions? Should we have kept going with that?

      http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011203/cortright
      http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/MiddleEast/Iraq/Sanctions.asp
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/183499.stm
    • PsychoticClown, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oh yeah. When you are invaded by an overwhelming more superior army, you defend your land, so what's one of the logical steps to take? You blow up a school of little girls. Makes sense.

      Somehow, the army is getting worse and worse at their *****. They had more convincing lies at the start of the war; now they're like amateurs. Perhaps the recent news about weak ethical and moral conditioning for the war (and implications like torture and murder of civilians by US millitary) gave the troops a bad name, so they said "what the hell? how about a story where we save the day: we rescue young Iraqi girls from IRAQIS".

      Luckily we Americans have ***** for brains, so stories like this (no matter how little sense they make) go immediately unquestioned. Simply coming from the military is reason enough to buy them. Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch, nuff said.

      Of course, when China (for example) invades America, it's expected that Americas are going to target their own schools, right? *eyes rolling*
    • floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You guys do understand...its a GIRLS school. They believe GIRLS should not be taught any thing but how to submit to men. It's not about Bush or the U.S. But about " Keeping GIRLS in there place"

      THIS is how they feel about GIRLS

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=452288&in_page_id=1811

      http://theync.com/m042907stone.shtml
    • craka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1is there a war thats not BS?
  • dshah, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Never seen a plot so elobarate and planned. So the link has to be going all the way upto construction company, contractors and their managers. We got a big scandal opening up??
  • AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -9/+24We obviously must surrender now.
    • miketrin, on 10/12/2007, -40/+6You're a tool. We need to get out and let them all kill each other. After almost everyone is dead then we can come in, kill the rest of them.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27"You're a tool. We need to get out and let them all kill each other. After almost everyone is dead then we can come in, kill the rest of them."

      Great. Now you're advocating letting them kill children, and THEN *RE-INVADING*. What the F |_| CK.
    • RuffRidr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15No *****. Miketrin shows his true colors.
  • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -18/+40I guess Allah needs more virgins to dole out to the jihadis.
    • dblespresso, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Winner ot the best comment of the day
      Thanks for the laugh
    • SultanTravi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Well, they chose a good location. These victims would have been just about the age terrorists like.
  • miketrin, on 10/12/2007, -20/+10Islam sucks ass.
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -16/+8your mother is named Islam? that's odd... anyway hook me up, i love a good rimming
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3???

      This especially odd since you bury LGF stories.
  • azzrik, on 10/12/2007, -14/+17Obviously the American soldiers are getting smarter and harder to kill, so they have gone after easier targets, little school girls.
    May they all sit by the right hand of Allah when the true God comes and casts them all into the pits of hell where they all belong.
    • m3t00, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13It could be they have a deep hatred for females since their religion makes it so hard to get laid. It goes against human nature. Their only hope is that there will be lots of sex in the afterlife. @SpaceMonkeyZero - that would explain how they would see nothing wrong with killing young girls. Mass psychotic delusions brought on by lifetimes of repressed sexual urges.

      If there were no religion we would still fight over territory, wealth and power. All of which are only worth having because of all the women and sex that goes with it. Too simple? Probably. But, it is better that we are over there raping their women than having them come here and rape ours.
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -12/+10@m3too: I hear ya. That's one of the major fallacy of atheists. They claim that there would be eternal peace without religion. That's just not true.
    • praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -3/+29"True god"? You realize Islam is an Abrahamic religion like Christianity and Judaism, right?
    • mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@SpaceMonkeyZero,

      Not all atheists believe that, just as not all religionists are wacked up Taleban.
  • digitalArtform, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Was this designed so the rubble would look like an off target US bombing?
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2we don't know the facts of this. a single person could have accomplished the rigging.

      it is just as likely done by americans - so that they can bomb something and then say "see those secondary explosions?"
    • nbcivic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1no, this was done so due to inner country seperation
    • elisa72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1digitalArtform: THAT is a very interesting question...I'm afraid we'll never get the answer.
  • Oldschoolhack, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6cant... help it....
    they set us up the bomb!

    AGHGGH! digg me down.
  • afairjudgement, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3I can't believe this at all. Literally.
    Something like this would be just what the Dr. ordered for Bush to feel like this war is doing some good for once.
    I'm 99% sure this story was fabricated. I mean seriously, look at those pictures. Whatever that crap is, it looks out of commission. The only thing that looks new is the explosive wire that was probably planted there. God damn it.
    • digg5, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10It is literally impossible for the terrorists to be the bad guys..
    • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Welcome to the "America is bad" mantra. No matter WHAT happens, it will always be our fault some how.
    • schnikies79, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Damn, you have all the answers! I'm glad your helping out instead of sitting in your Mom's basement.

      Tool.
  • viclazlo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6Hudson: Let's just bug out and call it even, OK? What are we talking about this for?
    Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
    Hudson: *****' A...
    Burke: Ho-ho-hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
    Ripley: They can *bill* me.
  • Killmaster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13What we should have done is gone in there with all of America behind the troops. If we were all in it to win it like we were with WWII, then we would have been through with this a long time ago. Now, I don't think we should have been there in the first place, but if you're going to war, you gotta do it right.
    • hode, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Total War solves everything? Thank you Joseph Goebbels...

      This whole thing is a criminal mistake.
    • Killmaster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@hode

      not always, war should only be seen as a last resort. war is hell. I would rather solve things diplomatically than goto war, but sometimes the other guy won't agree to any terms, and you HAVE to goto war. And if does come to war, then you may as well go in with your "A" game and try to win rather than just pussy-footing around like we have been.
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7not easy to do when bush is telling lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie after lie

      you want the entire nation to be behind a lunatic and his illegal, murderous war?
  • marvin69, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16The religion of peace nearly strikes again!
    • psyops2000, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I wonder where all the jihadist apologists/supporters are now?
    • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@psyops

      They are trying to figure out how they can blame this on the USA. It's just taking a bit longer than usual.
  • AZSanMan, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Atheists do not believe in a higher being that is responsible for the way our world is. We woke up the the fact that there is no Easter Bunny, Santa Claus or a God. What we do witness is the fact that most wars are tied to religions. Our hope is that one day people will stop being delusional and take accountability for their own actions.
    • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Wait, I thought this was a war for Oil......
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6cobbs, bush said that god told him to attack iraq (a fact, bush said this)

      that is just another stupid thing bush said, or he's insane and hearing voices or he's a liar

      we dont need a president who is stupid, insane or a liar
    • mstoneburner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Actually most wars are tied to economics but don't let that keeping you from ringing your atheist bell, champ!
    • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@overtoke

      You have the factual quote?
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3cobb

      http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article317805.ece

      ps: use google more, you'll eventually learn something. and one day, when you are intelligent enough you'll become a liberal.
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a BBC series which will be broadcast this month."

      I smell propaganda.
    • nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10>. and one day, when you are intelligent enough you'll become a liberal.


      and one day, if you ever grow up and move out of your parents basement and have children and get a job..... you will become a conservative.

  • jimsf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Thats what happens when movie piracy goes out of control. Clearly they got a copy of Die Hard: With a Vengeance.

    Looks like had this happened it would have been horrific. Amazing anyone can justify this kind of plot no matter what your religious or political slant.
  • bgolat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0OH we are hero's now!
    • LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3were we never hero's?
      i guess it depends what angle you look at it, and what goal you want to see accomplished.
  • dhVyse, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I'm convinced the only way for the west of the middle east to get along is to avoid contact with each other. We can trade, and all that, but lets not fight, lets not be friends, lets just exist. I think radical muslims might even be ok with that. Just let them keep killing each other over petty differences, and let us live our lives. We really don't NEED to police the world.

    There is of course one other way we might unite, and that would be a common threat.. say, an attack from another world?
    • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15That tactic worked so well with Hitler.

      Appeasement only emboldens.
    • Killmaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7As much as I'd love to see the middle east (and the world for that matter) put down their weapons and say "Hey, we don't have to like each other, but we can put up with it" I don't think its going to happen. The terrorists consider it a great honor to go blow themselves up. It is kind of hard to negotiate with someone who would rather just kill you than strike a peace deal.
    • Sambone67, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Any race that can get here from another star is gonna mop the floor with us. I don't care how many nukes we've got.
    • machismonstro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You obviously never saw Independence Day.
    • Sambone67, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I saw it. You actually believe that tripe?
    • nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10>to avoid contact with each other.

      ONE PROBLEM...if you knew anything true about Islam and not the fake white washed politically correct religion of peace *****....

      The whole purpose of Islam is TOTAL AND COMPLETE WORLD DOMINATION...... they will never stop fighting this war until we are all either under the rule of an Islamic world, or they are dead.

  • MattInChicago, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Those silly fun loving muslims...notice how there are no protests in the streets! No religious groups or leaders speaking out? Nawwwww.. Think back now to when the US soldiers stopped that "kid" coming across the border from Syria with $10k and all hell broke loose!?! Hey and let's not forget the deafening silence of our own (US) muslim community when this stuff happens. yea...they have their heads on straight.
  • Ricemanstm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@dhvyse

    Two things:

    1. Attack from another world. Sounds like a great movie idea, let me think about it. We could call it Independence Day...oh wait...
    2. We can't "just exist" with them. The Qu'ran specifically calls for the elimination of the infidels (that's us). There's not enough room in the world for Islam to exist with anything other than Islam.


    Sorry.

    However, I do agree with you. We don't need to police the world, neither do we need to be the world's ATM.
  • ASSASSYN, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Sick bastards. But the effect I am sure they were trying to do is to force the U.S. out of iraq from the inevitable world outcry even though we should have never entered.
  • strangewill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13I just have one thing to say:
    One hell of a job those soldiers did, today they are great heros. :D
    • Killmaster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3amen
    • glucoseboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Our soldiers are doing a great job everyday.... They are true heroes everyday.

      Which is why we should bring them home.
    • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Our soldiers are doing a great job everyday.... They are true heroes everyday.

      Which is why we should bring them home."

      So you'd rather have Muslim schools being blown up in Iraq.
    • strangewill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yay getting dug down for congradulating those who saved children!
    • Prysorra, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@ geekee

      "So you rather them stop being heros?"

      Might be more effective, rhetorically.
  • fight4yourright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7But these are freedom fighters and the bomb was meant for the evil American forces who may have been coming to the school...Remember America is the most evil country in the world...it's people are prisoners and have no rights or freedom! REMEMBER! /s
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Are those the same soldiers the Democrats and the majority of Americans are demanding be brought home?
  • Tordenflesk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I guess their were starting to out of virgins in heaven, huh?
  • fight4yourright, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Ummmm...Maybe the American Democrats are right......Iraq and her people aren't worth the effort....maybe the entire middle east isn't worth it...Let China and Russia deal with the ME.
    • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6So American soldiers discover a plot to kill children, and your response is to withdraw American troops.
    • nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6liberals are such racists and white western supremacists, with their "let them kill each other" attitudes.


  • froggy57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Iraqis hate us. But you can be sure those little girls don't.
    At this point I just don't understand any one could be arguing that the U.S. is responsible for all the Iraqi deaths.
    I have to conclude that those who are saying that, really do know better. And are just pushing their agenda.
    And what an agenda. Blowing up little girls.
    I can understand the feeling of revenge. I can understand the cycle of revenge for those involved in the ***** going on over there. What I cannot understand is American sympathizers. How blind does one have to be to see the insanity of radical Islam.
    Nazi - Radical Islam. Is there any difference?
    • froggy57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6And if they will blow up their own children, is there really any doubt what they have planned for ours?
    • poornbroken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2i agree with you in the fact that americans are not directly responsible for the majority of deaths in iraq, BUT (big but) it is arguable that americans are INdirectly responsible for the majority of deaths. it frustrates me that people on digg do not make that distinction. they seem to want to paint this image of one haditha or mai lai after another in iraq. that the victims are the poor iraqis... except that these "victims" are also the aggressors. and that they know that a body, any body (does not have to be american or their enemy) brings them a step closer to their goal of hamstringing progressive efforts, american or otherwise.

      those AMERICANS in the white house or otherwise, want to see a friendly govt in iraq. cutting through all the bs, that is true on all the political spectrums.
  • chall2001, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This story is horrific on so many levels. How many Iraqis knew what was going on and said nothing?
    An insurgent with an RPG can wait for a US convoy on a street corner in full view of hundreds of Iraqis.
    An insurgent can spend an hour planting an IED in full view of hundreds of Iraqis.
    Does anyone else see the problem here?

    • froggy57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Agreed. Those people are fundamentally insane and we are trying to deal with them as though they are normal. Hundreds must have been privy to info about this planned act.
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3froggy, dumbass, it means they want us out.

      illegal war = insane
  • Gilart80, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Kudos to the people who stopped this act from happening. I cannot imagine someone wanting to blow up a bunch of kids, and girls especially. I guess it is the western thought that girls are supposed to be protected.
    • overtoke, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1someone needs to stop the US from doing it (which we do every single ***** day)
  • froggy57, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7((Before the invasion, there were absolutely no terrorists in Iraq. Post-invasion, Iraq has become a terrorist summer camp and training ground.))

    ***Have you forgotten the training camps? Have you forgotten the convoys leaving Iraq prior to our invasion? Have you forgotten the sight of muslims dancing and throwing candy at 911? Have you forgotten the $25,000 bounty Sadaam put on any Americans head? Have you forgotten the hit he put out on George Sr?
  • geekee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3CNN: No Safe Way for U.S. to Leave Iraq, Experts Warn
    http://digg.com/political_opinion/No_Safe_Way_for_U_S_to_Leave_Iraq_Experts_Warn
    • chall2001, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1And there's no safe way for us to stay in Iraq.
      Can't stay, can't leave, and burning 100 billion a year which is unsustainable even for the US.
      Meanwhile, terrorists worldwide use Iraq as a recruiting and training tool.
  • RocckLobster, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1To those of you who think a plan to pull out of Iraq is "defeatism". You're definitely over-simplfying it. In order to "win" a war, there must be negotiations with the opposing side; treaties are drawn up; plans for re-deployment are initiated. In this war, there is no "opposing side"; there is no government with which to negotiate a treaty. There are only insurgents and pseudo-terrorist groups (the ones calling themselves "Al-Qaeda In Iraq" are not from the same group that we know as Al-Qaeda) and they are attacking us BECAUSE we won't leave.

    So, how do you define "winning" this war? You can't. There is no magic bullet that will be fired on a certain day and everyone will say "well, that does it, we won, let's go home". There HAS to be a re-deployment plan in order to get our troops safely out of harm's way while passing off the security duties to the Iraqi Army and police forces as we leave in phases. It's called "phased re-deployment", and that's the only way we will EVER get out of Iraq. If you think otherwise, you haven't critically thought about it.

    It's already been four years, how much longer will it take to "win" this war if we keep doing the same thing over and over again? Albert Einstein once said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results; well, that's what the Bush Administration is doing in Iraq. There were "surges" in 2005, 2006, and 2007; each one had no positive results to show for it; yet, according to Bush, we're making "progress". The thing is, nobody can tell you what the definition of "progress" is.
    • nixfu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9>In order to "win" a war, there must be negotiations


      *****!!


      The way you WIN wars is to destroy the ***** out of your enemies, and kill as many of them as you can, with as much prejudice and ruthlessness as possible until they BEG for mercy.... THAT IS HOW YOU WIN A WAR!!

      Your ignorant view of war is why liberals never win wars and move to France.

    • RocckLobster, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3>The way you WIN wars is to destroy the ***** out of your enemies..

      Yeah......right. Again, I ask how do you define that you "won" in Iraq? The occupied country has to concede defeat and negotiate a withdrawal plan with the occupying force. There's no way to do that when the enemy is a bunch of insurgents.

      In this war there were certain goals. According to the Bush Administration, those goals were to remove Saddam's WMDs and depose Saddam. Well, there were no WMDs and we have deposed Saddam. So, "Mission Accomplished", right? Time for a phased redeployment.
    • poornbroken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3unfortunely for all of us, there are no easy answers.

      i am quite sure there are a million reasons why we cannot pull out of iraq, oil being near the top, and civil war breaking out somewhere near the bottom. as much as i would like to say that it would be the "morally" correct thing to do, in leaving, i think it would be over-simplistic, and be a greater injustice.

      we have made a mess, and we should clean it up. end of story.
  • hawkeye17, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4***** animals.
  • 15thPD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6For all you Iraqi-war naysayers, how many innocent little girls would have died had those U.S. troops not been there? That makes it all worth it for me.
    • forgottenhope, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4ok so by this logic, lets send military men to all schools in the world. that will make the worlds school systems safe. following that thought, why dont we place the military everywhere, that way we are safe, everywhere.

      What about a military industrial complex? Do you know the U.S. president who warned us of that?
    • kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2well if the US never invaded, there would be another 600,000 innocent people alive today that have been killed by a poorly planned invasion and occupation., as evil as Saddam was, he at least kept the peace, which is something the world's only superpower apparently cant even do.
    • poornbroken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@kodak

      you don't know that. under that hypothesis, i would also be correct in saying that, if we had NOT invaded, it would emboldened saddam into actually producing WMDs, which he would continue to test on his own people, sending them to fight another war with iran, causing a million deaths.

      now, that's not a fair assesment is it? and neither is yours.
    • kodak543, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4oh please, its been conclusively proven, he wasnt even attempting that, or close to that. Don't deal in hypothetical situations, which you know have no chance of ever happening. Second, He would of never attacked Iran, his military was crushed in the gulf war, and wasnt even close to recovering by the time the US invaded again. People like you, are the reason that we got in the war in the first place, and are bleeding nearly 100+ billion dollars a year in this stupid war. All I know, 600,000 Iraqis are dead because the U.S. was so arrogant in its victory, and didnt manage to take care of occupation details, like securing iraq's borders and stopping looting/violence.

      @ poornbroken Note: We've spent $386,124,133,349 on the Iraq War. Do you still think it was worth it?
    • poornbroken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7i was honestly, against war from the get go. i was against the UN resolution authorizing the united states to go to any country to "combat terrorism." i was against the patriot act.

      but this isn't what WAS, it should be about what IS. it is selfish, immoral for us to just leave iraq. i agree we should have never been in iraq in the first place... but we are. iraq is an american responsibility now, whether we like it or not. leaving them alone to tear each other apart is not a good option.

      if it costs us $100 billion a day for us to live up to our responsibility, so be it.
    • sunshinemonster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@kodak

      But how do you justify Saddam's peace when he was commiting mass murder? Peace held through fear and an iron fist is no peace I know of. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
  • forgottenhope, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Are these the same terrorist who put explosives in the towers 1 and 2 and 7? Man those guys hate everyone.
  • rogueace, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4One more piece of proof that we're not fighting the wrong war
  • floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3oakes said
    has anyone noticed that every time diggers bring themselves to criticize terrorists, they always qualify the statement by saying "I'm no fan of Bush, but..."? What's up with that?

    Because the hatred of Bush is so great here on digg that ANY good news in Iraq is now considered support for Bush

  • roguescout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1(raises hand @ forgottenhope)

    Oh me! Me! Please pick me!

    General/President Eisenhower warned all of us of that in his final speech to the nation as President. He was a military man that correctly predicted the future and we all ignored him due to fears about the Cold War. He was right and is now spinning in his grave screaming, "I told you so! I told you so!"

    Do I get a cookie?
  • nockee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Not one person here has any doubts this is not pure propaganda aimed at the US population to engender hatred of the "Al Qaeda" terrorists? Do you blindly believe stories like this and not think twice that its pure psyops? I am amazed at the naive diggers out there.
  • mirJams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0gods voice: all men on this earth were given a will, i am god i gave it, but not to use it to kill, much less killing claiming my name, i am god, the only one, for all men the same, i will it on you to forever disarm, i thought that the devil was in charge of causing all harm. god, allah, jehova, krishna, buddha, all deities, one voice, for all men, one choice, finally all understand, they just could not agree on a name, but still its ONE god for all. if you disagree, if you think they are different, oh please, show me the one that demanded everlasting world PEACE.
  • eteyemd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hey...... its a third world country for a reason.
  • eteyemd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Its a third world country for a reason.
  • RichStradler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And then to call people who come up with sick plots like this... of all things... freedom fighters.

    ...Boggles the mind
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