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- frieddonuts, on 04/05/2009, -2/+59Good or bad, people need to be literate in the history of their own country. I'm glad that the people of Iraq have decided to examine and preserve their past instead of censoring it.
- PhairOh, on 04/05/2009, -0/+23I'm a Jew and I would be very interested in going to an Adolf Hitler museum. You should never be afraid of history. As the saying goes, "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."
- Konrad9, on 04/05/2009, -0/+14"Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it"
I am all for this museum. - AManWithNoName, on 04/05/2009, -0/+13This is actually a really good thing. When people put something in a museum, it shows two things: First, that it is in the past (Although that's not true for art museums), and that they do want to remember it. This is something that needs to be remembered, so that future generations know what not to do.
- inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+10The feature presentation should be the part with his shaking hands with Rumsfeld and Cheney.
- shodanx, on 04/05/2009, -1/+10he accidentally the verb
- ljdmd, on 04/05/2009, -3/+10sounds charming.
- charm803, on 04/05/2009, -4/+11Interesting. I would love to be able to visit the museum once it's up and running.
- charm803, on 04/05/2009, -1/+8At this point in my life, I'm more scared of Mexico.
- 5urr3al5am, on 04/05/2009, -0/+6well if they accidentally clone him .. like in Jurassic Park.. that would suck balls
- charm803, on 04/05/2009, -0/+5I'm a fan of history and so maybe I have more of an appreciation on why it's important to have this kind of museum.
It does not mean I support what he did, and as much as I also do not support how Bush handled Iraq, I would still visit a museum if they made one of Bush.
It's the same as the museums that show segregation here in the States. Sure, we oppose segregation now, but looking back in aw and amazement that America hit that point in the first place reminds us how far we've come - zerohelix, on 04/05/2009, -1/+6The WMD exhibit would unsurprisingly be empty
- lemur, on 04/05/2009, -0/+5Well setting up a health care system and infrastructure to provide electricity and water is a massive, non-trivial task.... unlike, say, sticking some old memorabilia in a building and letting people look at it. If they charged for admission they could collect funds to help get your grandmother health care faster.
- Cole2026, on 04/05/2009, -1/+6I like this. They are confronting their past instead of ignoring it. Japan, on the other hand, seems to be keen on blotting out its atrocities of mankind out of its history books (some of the stuff they did to the chinese is of the most vile and disgusting things I have ever heard of. Sometimes, after storming into a house and encountering a whole family, the Japanese forced Chinese men to rape their own daughters, sons to rape their mothers, and brothers their sisters, while the rest of the family was made to watch.) If you do not educate people about past mistakes, they are much more likely to make the mistakes again.
Also, not to single Japan out, it was just the first example I could think of. It would be such a disgrace to ignore the atrocities that happened in Iraq (just like it is a disgrace to ignore the horrors that Japan commited against China) to everyone who died under that man's hands. - inactive, on 04/05/2009, -1/+5I think japan had it just desert when they got nuked.
- hatdrop, on 04/05/2009, -0/+4so people are for the downplaying and former censorship by the japanese govt of what occurred in nanking?
- inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+4I agree. Spain decided to "forget" their past and as a result it has caused some issues today.
- Brassbud, on 04/05/2009, -0/+4Maybe it's a regional thing?
- NYConcepts, on 04/05/2009, -0/+4The fight in Iraq isn't over yet, but this is definitely a sign that the final days are ahead.
- Mankind121, on 04/05/2009, -6/+9Let it serve as a reminder to what happens when tyrants come to power
- Darksoul, on 04/05/2009, -3/+6Wow, I would really like to know why he is getting dugg down. Most of you don't seem to get our soldiers are not politicians and if it was not for them and the good people of Iraq working together this would not even be happening so show some god dam respect for them.
All of them.! - Brassbud, on 04/05/2009, -0/+3Well, given he spent all their wealth on that stuff, they should at least get to entertain the kids for an afternoon looking at it.
- AndrewDB, on 04/05/2009, -1/+4Wow.
What mental ward did they let you out of too soon? - Nore, on 04/05/2009, -2/+5Who the ***** wants to what?
- j0hn33y, on 04/05/2009, -0/+3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_Presid ...
Projected to open late 2010. - gerbil20, on 04/05/2009, -0/+3Actually the worst part involved "medical" experiments on live POWs. Vivisections, experiments with chemical and biologic agents, pumping blood out for transfusions to soldiers etc. Japan had a lot to answer for.
- RomeLeader, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2I was just about to, but checked beforehand. In Canada, you are always aware of dual spellings.
- norman619, on 04/05/2009, -1/+3I hate our Freedom Fries as well.
- jameskong15, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2"I am curious why you focused in on one nation but not the other one that was allied with it."
"Also, not to single Japan out, it was just the first example I could think of. "
Reading FTW! - norman619, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2Oh man... what...?
Joking I hope? - darrellcskinner, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2I thought the same thing, but instantly assumed it must be "British". Google confirmed my assumption. It's amazing that a google search could teach you something like that! (I wish there was a font for sarcasm).
- makkaveli19, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2isn't there an Adolf Hitler museum anyway?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/33460.stm - diggdong, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2Wonder if the likes of Rumsfield will be up on the wall shaking hands as they smile for the cameras. Ah the good ole' 80's. When we could just have our tax dollars prop up some tyrant with cheap weapons. If they seem to be loosing ship them chemical weapons. The complex world was much simpler then.
- lemur, on 04/05/2009, -0/+2I totally understand... Saddam destroyed the lives of countless people forever--not just Iraqi, but Iranian as well. It's like having a Hitler museum--nobody likes the man, but it's a page of history that should not be forgotten.
- palehorse864, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Oh yeah, for those who don't know the acronyms, LDP means Liberal Democratic Party.
- palehorse864, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1You could focus on some of the things Germany does to ignore their past. You already got one of the axis powers in WW2.
Plus, Americans don't talk a lot about internment camps everyday either. We do have them in our history books, but they aren't exactly discussed that much. We did throw a lot of Japanese descendants into them, but not German. That's nothing compared to what the axis powers did, but it does show how all sides downplay what they did in WWII.
I am curious why you focused in on one nation but not the other one that was allied with it. - mugicha, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Wow. I would have been surprised if even one person took my comment seriously. The fact that as of right now it has -7 diggs and 1 irate response is a real head scratcher.
So here you go guys, I guess it wasn't obvious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(absurdi ... - palehorse864, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Granted, it would help if the LDP hadn't caused such problems. Perhaps with Taro Aso in office it will be a little different than under Shinzo Abe. The most Koizumi did as far as I remember was visit the wrong shrine.
- Cole2026, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1@palehorse: From what I understand, Germany is pretty good on EDUCATING their citizens on the atrocities that took place. Japan is not. Joking or otherwise, to try to challenge my cognitive skills when you have no idea what you are talking about is pretty low even by digg's questionable standards.
- nephilimx, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1Well there would of been atleast some people in iraq who did well off under Saddam, sure they miss the old days. Much like US petrol companys would be sad Bush is gone.
- inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1I will have to agree with you on that point, especially since I live in Texas.
- palehorse864, on 04/06/2009, -0/+1Cole: I believe it depends on areas. In their media they try to gloss over it or eliminate it. And I have heard from Germans who were not educated on the subject. Maybe they have updated their curriculum, or it varies from district to district, but Japan has even begun to acknowledge it, if not teach it in schools.
A lot of the people who did this are also now dead or in retirement homes. A lot of the people responsible for Japan now were either children, babies, or not even conceived at the time of these events.
It seemed odd that you just began bashing them in an unrelated news story and then give the excuse "it's the first one I could think of". You seemed to have an axe to grind. It's not exactly hard to think of other nations and include them in the topic. Why single out one? What was your reasoning?
As for how I know about Germany, I have a few German friends I have talked with about life over there, school, etc. Maybe they need to consult more diggers about their country? - 5urr3al5am, on 04/05/2009, -3/+4I hope they include a picture of Saddam when we found him in that fox hole
- inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1you DO realize, you dumb *****, that this isn't HONORING him, right?
This is in no way a knock on the US. - aijazbaig1, on 04/19/2009, -0/+1Here is a look at Washington's shady dealings with Iraq since the mid sixties. From the New York Times:
http://digg.com/political_opinion/A_Tyrant_40_Year ...
From the FTA:
The Iraqi leader seen as a grave threat in 1963 was Abdel Karim Kassem, a general who five years earlier had deposed the Western-allied Iraqi monarchy. Washington's role in the coup went unreported at the time and has been little noted since. America's anti-Kassem intrigue has been widely substantiated, however, in disclosures by the Senate Committee on Intelligence and in the work of journalists and historians like David Wise, an authority on the C.I.A.
FTA:
"The United States also sent arms to the new regime, weapons later used against the same Kurdish insurgents the United States had backed against Kassem and then abandoned. Soon, Western corporations like Mobil, Bechtel and British Petroleum were doing business with Baghdad -- for American firms, their first major involvement in Iraq."
Also from the FTA
"As its instrument the C.I.A. had chosen the authoritarian and anti-Communist Baath Party, in 1963 still a relatively small political faction influential in the Iraqi Army. According to the former Baathist leader Hani Fkaiki, among party members colluding with the C.I.A. in 1962 and 1963 was Saddam Hussein, then a 25-year-old who had fled to Cairo after taking part in a failed assassination of Kassem in 1958.
According to Western scholars, as well as Iraqi refugees and a British human rights organization, the 1963 coup was accompanied by a bloodbath. Using lists of suspected Communists and other leftists provided by the C.I.A., the Baathists systematically murdered untold numbers of Iraq's educated elite -- killings in which Saddam Hussein himself is said to have participated. No one knows the exact toll, but accounts agree that the victims included hundreds of doctors, teachers, technicians, lawyers and other professionals as well as military and political figures." - gr33nspan, on 04/05/2009, -1/+2Basically, you somehow derived conclusions that I didn't even remotely imply in my comment. You don't seem like an anti war guy from your moronic reply, maybe you just hate soldiers for some reason. ALL i said was that it was going to be *****... and seeing how the article is in google and in English, I assumed it was meant for readers outside of their country who don't know the risks.
Oh.. and I have lived "there", and still am - meganbdeel, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1I have to agree, lmao.
- slashdotordigg, on 04/05/2009, -1/+2so how long it will last before it gets suicide bombed? will it display bag full of million dollars?
</bloody sarcasm> - Xihix, on 04/05/2009, -0/+1Cool. Doing ***** like this isn't irregular. A couple of the Shah's former palaces in Iran are now museums, and they're pretty cool.
- Azerael, on 04/05/2009, -3/+4I like how you use 'we' as if you played any part whatsoever in his capture.
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