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- kiantech, on 10/12/2007, -12/+85my family is from Iran and trust me, the people there hate the government, and all agree the president is nuts, and they do not dislike America, most of them are trying to come here, took my cousins 10 years to get their okay to move to the US, the president just wants attention and power.
- nendoke, on 10/12/2007, -3/+48I am Iranian and We do NOT want war, Start war = New revolution in Iran Against the goverment , People are in suffer and Goverment searching for Nuclear (Energy || Weapons), No one like this situation. :
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43"And how exactly are they going to deliver a nuclear payload, via camel?"
Iran has a very powerful military with a strong air force.
All this stupid stereotyping of them as running around on camels is exactly the reason why people like rumsfeld can say that the war in iraq will last for "6 days, maybe 6 weeks" and have people believe him. If we go to war in Iran, it will take years, cost hundreds of billions of dollars, tens of thousands of lives and probably result in failure. Not only does Iran have a strong military, it also has the potential to have a far more powerful insurgency than the one we have seen in Iraq. The US military would be spread over 3 countries at this point.
The US cant just pick a country on a map and expect to be able to invade it. It would do you some good however to pick a country on the map and read the wikipedia article on it. - Yashar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38@ vbr2
http://70.85.12.163/albino_flash02/end(www.albinoblacksheep.com).swf - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33if say a nuclear war breaks out, how do you stop it?
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27Do Pat Robertson or Fred Phelps represent all Christians? I can tell you that the policies of Israel don't describe me as a Jew. So why would the nutcase president of Iran represent all Muslims?
- physphd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19@drizek
I think what giraffe was getting at is the lack of delivery vehicles, and in particular the lack of an ICBM, or even SRBM, network. Conventional aircraft are only useful if you have either 1) complete air superiority, which Iran will not have over the US or Israel, or 2) sheer volume of bombers and nukes that you can absorb the losses of most being intercepted prior to delivering their payload. Iran has the potential for neither.
The technology is out there and for sale, no doubt, just look at Chinese missile systems renamed Shaheen (Pakistan) or No-Dong (N. Korea). Iran's Shahab series is not up to the task, though I don't know the current status of the Shahab 5 or 6 booster additions. One of these years, though....
@nendoke and kiantech
Thank you for your words. People and their governments often have very different views. I guess you could say we have a lot in common. - sicc, on 10/12/2007, -14/+30This is why(as a shamed republican) I hate Bush. He has ruined out credibility to the extent that we are now UNABLE to attack our real enemies. Why? Because he tripped and fell into Iraq, now we are stuck there like a bunch of ***** idiots. Bush is a failure and an embarrassment. I have ***** had it with the illegals, the bickering, lies, corruption, BS wars, and everything else you have done. You stupid idiot, I hope you're happy now. I hope a ***** pillar from the White House falls on top of you and breaks your neck.
- dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -48/+64If I were Iran, I would want nuclear weapons.
Sure, the Iranians are terrifying religious nutcases. But they didnt just suddenly turn into the demons from the lower circles of hell. They are still humans and their mind functions as human minds do. They follow predictable paths and logic. Push a human hard enough and he will exhibit corresponding behaviour. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -11/+27"The country that thinks Hitler is a Jew "
Instead of criticizing, why not actually read about it? There is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that hitler had "jewish blood". I personally dont think its true, but there are plenty of perfectly rational and intelligent people all over the world that believe that do. Its an interesting theory. - knaps, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17After reading the article, it really just sounds like Iran is saying that they have the capability to change their minds about having nukes. It's not saying that they've gone underway and already made a batch ready for the first group of people to pick a fight with them (although that's not entirely out of the park, either). It's just like telling the guy in the cubicle next to yours that if he ever steals your coffee, you have enough money to go buy something heavy to throw at him.
- fnaqzna, on 10/12/2007, -14/+28Oddly enough... after translation to English, he doesn't sound any more or less nuts than George W. Bush.
- AdmiralAdama, on 10/12/2007, -54/+68Uh-huh. The country that thinks Hitler is a Jew and the holocaust never happened and that Israel should be wiped out and has run terror plots against Jews in Argentina and American GIs in Saudi Arabia is rational. Right.
- MASH007, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14As an Iranian-American (born and live in US) I have to say a couple of things.
First, Iran has gone through more revolutions than the US has gone through presidents. Iranian people are strong willed and rebel when there rights are being stepped on.
Second, I've taken basic chemistry and know that the jump from nuclear energy to a nuclear bomb is HUGE! Its like telling the difference between a potatoe and a watermelon. It will be very obvious if Iran is aiming for a nuclear weapon. If US kept it peaceful then we would still have inspectors which could easily tell if a weapon is under-works.
Third, obviously the Israels gov't doesn't like the gov't of Iran. Please note (with all due respect), that the source of this article is a Jewish press release. - freff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14The "revolution" that actually lead to the situation that we see today in Iran actually happened in 1953, when the UK urged the CIA to help overthrow the democratically elected leader of Iran. Which we did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
This lead to years of very repressive rule under the Shaw of Iran, which fostered the environment for Khomeni to return from his exile and overthrow the government in the Islamic Revolution. None of which would have been possible if the original democratically elected government in Iran had been allowed to remain in place.
Sometimes, it pays to understand history in order to understand why problems exist today. Iran, just like the rest of the Middle East, is the way it is for a reason. We've got to deal with that, but in order to do this, we need to have a real understanding of the issues in place.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Iran does not currently have a nuclear bomb and they are several years away from building one. The delivery method is just an annoyance compared to the amount of work required to build the actual bomb.
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12If Israel launched its own nuke, it'd cause an international crisis. Israel has refused to confirm or deny the existence of its nuclear arsenal for half a century in order to avoid being forced to join the nuclear NPT which is expected of all UN members who possess a nuclear capability. This is because they'd have to allow inspections of their arsenal, and questions would be asked as to how Israel came to have the capacity to develop its own nuclear arsenal.
So as you can see, Iran is quite right when it states that the world is being hypocritical. I want the UN to hold both Israel and Iran to account on this issue; the Israeli government enforces state-sanctioned racism, and Iran is a fundamentalist theocracy.
Of course, given a choice, I'd rather see Israel with nukes. A simple threat from the US to withdraw the billions of dollars worth of aid they send to Israel every year, and a commitment to avoid vetoing UN SC resolutions which are critical of Israel would ensure that they don't launch a nuke. There isn't anything we can do to compel Iran to not attack anybody (assuming they have nuclear capability) apart from threatening to blast them off the face of the earth. - vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@"And the only reason Bush went to war is because of what you Arabs did in NY and Washington."
Umm.... You are aware that Iranians aren't Arabs right?
They are ethnically Persian and religiously Shi'ite.
Wheras Al Queda, Saudis, and the Taliban are Arab and Sunni.
It is like the difference between English and German and Catholicism and Protestantism. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14But Iran doesnt have any nukes.
India however does, and they havent signed the treaty. The US is now selling nuclear equiment to India.
Israels nuclear weapons will always be a major destabilizing force in the region, and they should be our first priority. If we can get israel to get rid of its nukes, then it will be much easier to stop Iran from going nuclear as well. - SebK666, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I live in Iran, I'm half-french half-iranian.
Iranians HATE the government, and most of em love America.
Lots of Iranians try to go live in USA, but it's hard.
Noone here likes the president.
The president is powerless, there are religious people with more power, they control everything.
Noone tought that Iran would be an Islamic ''Republic'' during the Revolution!
Ahmadinejad is only doing this to provoc, scare...etc
If HE doubts on the existence of the holocaust, this doesn't mean the iranians think it too.
GO IRAN, $^&^5&%^ THE GOVERNEMENT! - drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13To be fair tell Israel to open up its Nuke program to inspectors They have nothing to hide right
- SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16You base your opinion about an entire nation on what? Do you know any Iranians? Do you really believe an entire nation wants to wipe Israel off the map? Do you believe that all Americans wanted to invade Iraq? Do you believe all Americans want our troops still there?
Don't let the propaganda machine toy with your emotions so hard. Try some rational thought once in a while. - Araya213, on 10/12/2007, -12/+21Nice propaganda! I dont believe for a second that he said that, it would be stupid. Sounds like somebodys trying to rally support for a preemptive strike.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13The Iraq war wasn't a mistake because it prevents the US from attacking Iran.
The Iraq war was simply a mistake full stop. Like all wars. - KMartSheriff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"you loose at life"
And you lose at spelling. - h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9What ***** surprises me is that we are giving so much attention to Iran and on the other side of the world there's a communist nation that not only has broken it's "signed contract" not to develop nukes but has also tested one recently. Yet, it's all forgotten...
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Nowhere in the Bible does it state that Christians should selectively label certain sections as "narrative" when they become socially unacceptable or illegal.
If the Gospels were truly the word of God, using the Gospel writers as a conduit, you'd have presumed God would have had the foresight to add "lol, jk" to the portions which we find distasteful, immoral or are considered illegal today. - Vincep1974, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8ядерное оружие
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Good one them. It's the only way they could be safe from invasion really. What would you expect with one of the world's superpower's acting like a kid with a magnifying glass on a rampage?
- Aharoni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Glass the country? Has Israel joined the Covenant?
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -24/+31@abid786: Apparently some people (you) will never forgive the United States for using nuclear weapons during a war, the likes of which have never been seen before and have been been seen again, and a war which the world was desperate to end, minimizing human casualties despite any horrors that may directly come of it.
Hell, most internet users weren't even alive at the time of the detonations, and yet we are still to blame? Get over it. It is in the past -- Japan has forgiven us and is now quite possibly our best ally, aside from the U.K. If Japan can do that then surely you can, too. - SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -14/+21Statements by Americans over the years:
"All the ***** should be shot."
"God you're such a ***** jew."
"I say we just nuke them into a glass parking lot!"
"Everyone just hates America because we're so free!"
I really can't imagine what propaganda programs really entail... from our educational system to what you're allowed to watch on tv and read in the papers, but it's a pretty sad state of affairs when a good portion of any "peace loving" population ( sometimes multiple populations from multiple countries ) can be turned into vicious attack dogs on command.
People need to learn a bit of rational thought. Stop impulsively jumping to act on emotions and for once just sit and think about why you feel the way you do. Is it because you choose to, or is it because someone is trying to make you?
The more I visit sites like Digg and Slashdot and all the other places where people can post their comments, the deeper I fear we're all doomed to slavery or just plain old death and destruction. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12@SuckMyDigg - Did Mel Gibson say all that?
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Vincep1974:
You've mixed my rebuttal in with his original statement, as if we're the same person. In case you didn't realise, I was criticising him for believing in wild conspiracy theories and labelling all Israelis as beggars.
"The jews dont beleive in the Koran (since obviously the koran says to kill them all)"
Jews are people of the book, and thus are afforded a special status in Islam due to their monotheism and adherence to the teachings of the Torah. Historically they've been allowed to build synagogues and govern themselves under Jewish law, while living in Muslim lands. The Koran doesn't command Muslims to "kill all Jews", unless you can provide me a quotation to support your claim. - scratt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8They are prepaired to do no more or no less than the US would if put in the same situation. And they stand by their assertions that their intentions are peaceful to date.
I don't see where the story is here. - Vincep1974, on 10/12/2007, -20/+26Statements by Iranians over the past few years , stating their intentions.
“The kind of service that the Americans, with all their hatred, have done us — no superpower has ever done anything similar,” Mohsen Rezai, secretary-general of the powerful Expediency Council that advises the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamanei, boasted on state television recently.
“America destroyed all our enemies in the region. It destroyed the Taliban. It destroyed Saddam Hussein… The Americans got so stuck in the soil of Iraq and Afghanistan that if they manage to drag themselves back to Washington in one piece, they should thank God. America presents us with an opportunity rather than a threat — not because it intended to, but because it miscalculated. They made many mistakes.”
Jerusalem - Iran reportedly told Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh that Hamas should "wait quietly" for a dramatic Iranian announcement that is coming in a few months, the Hebrew daily Ma'ariv reported. The Iranians also told Haniyeh to lower Hamas' profile and calm the situation, the report said. Haniyeh met with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 11 days ago and received promises of economic aid and military cooperation as well as millions of dollars in cash. In four months, Iran is going to issue a statement that will dramatically change the strategic balance in the Middle East, the paper quoted Iranian officials as saying. The head of the Israel's Mossad (secret service) Meir Dagan was quoted as telling Israeli lawmakers on Monday that Ahmadinejad wants to have "3,000 centrifugal processors in bunkers by March 2007." The centrifuges enrich uranium, which can be used as fuel for a nuclear reactor but also is a key ingredient in the production of nuclear bombs. Experts here have warned that if Iran does acquire nuclear capability, it could then pursue its religious goal of spreading the Islamic revolution throughout the Middle East.
the older stuff
Commandant of Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television. “God willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the world. The final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdi”.
Here is what the advisor to thI'm more worried about those crazy people running the show in Irane The folks in charge of Iran think they're going to cause thier messiah to appear by them destroying US/Israelnew Iranian president has said:The new Iranian President called for Israel to be anihilated. The first time a UN member atually called for the obliteration of another
The [Iranians] President’s chief strategist, Hassan Abbassi, has come up with a war plan based on the premise that “Britain is the mother of all evils” – the evils being America, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, the Gulf states and even Canada, all of whom are the malign progeny of the British Empire. “We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization,” says Mr Abbassi. “There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them… Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.”
The IRGC chief warned that Iran was seeing through “critical days” and “fate-determining years”. He described the purpose of Iran’s 1979 Islamic revolution as the “Salvation of Muslims” from the hands of the “oppressive U.S. and Israel”.
commandant of Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, said on state television, “The final goal of the [1979] revolution is to create global Islamic rule and a regime of law to be led by the Imam Mahdi”. “God willing, the 21st century will see the defeat of the U.S. and the Zionists, and the victory of freedom-seeking nations of the world”. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Iran IS already a part of the War on Terror. They have been supporting global terrorism for DECADES.
Iran does not have the technology to reach the US with a nuclear rocket; they would have to sneak it into the US through a more conventional means, like hiding it in a shipping container. However, if war broke out between Iran and the US, would they have the time to plan and execute something like that? Probably not.
A more likely target for Iran would be Israel, just like Saddam did during the first Gulf War. Jersusalem, the most populous city would not be targeted because Iran wouldn't want to risk destroying the Al-Aqsa Mosque compund, the third holiest site in Islam (I doubt that they would be concerned about killing Palestinians; they've spent thirty years trying to increase the violence in Israel). The most likely target for Iran would be Tel Aviv, the second largest city in Israel, and it's over 90% Jewish.
A revolution in Iran? I just don't think it's gonna happen. Now is the time to have a revolution, BEFORE President Ahmadinejad starts a nuclear war with the US. It's the same situation as it was in Iraq. Sure, there were a lot of Iraqis who were discontented with their government, and we brought that government to the brink of collapse in 1991. And probably would have supported revolutionaries with arms and finances. But still, there was no revolution. - eurofooty, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13A little bit of sensability for once, something the Bush regime hasn't displayed a lot of since Day 1. Put more effort into the solving the global distribution of wealth problem, and you'll have less disenfranchment. Fix Global Debt too. Too much wealth is staying at the top of the tree and not making its way down to the common man. That's just creating boundaries and instability in alot of regions.
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Erm, let me get this straight.
"Our nuclear program has nothing to do with nuclear weapons!"
becomes
"Leave our nuclear program alone or we'll use nuclear weapons!"
aka
"We are most definitely researching nuclear weapons, completely confirming all your fears, and proving that we have lied consistently." - freff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I am an American. The comment was that "the revolution of 79" put Khomeni in power. The facts are, Iran had a democratically elected government that the CIA overthrew in 1953 which directly lead to 25 years of very repressive and unpopular rule. You can go back further if you want to, but was what lead to Khomeni's rise to power in Iran.
- JonnyTrombone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@Nocturnal: there is a lot of killing in the Christian bible, but most people pretend it isn't there. Philistines, unwed mothers, adulterers... plenty of commandments from Gd to kill people.
- SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8What happens when your ally turns against you?
Ever heard of Mossad? Talk about terrorism. It's amazing how it's okay to pick and choose who is or isn't a terrorist in this day and age. If you ask me there isn't a single country out there that has not used terrorism to achieve an end. - Vincep1974, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Here's an intro to the documentry, Obssesion. Obssesion takes TV broadcasts that are shown every day in the MIddle East in arabic and demostrates how pervasive this threat is, and how it's not a response to the West. It's a religious revival.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vypKSWHlnKA
This video is of a speech by Brigitte Gabriel. A Christian Lebanese who survived the Lebanon Civil War of the 80s. She talks about what she was raised to believe in about the Jews and what happened to her life when Jordan kicked out the PLO and they went to lebanon and started the destructive civil war there.
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev092706a.cfm - Vincep1974, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Israel didn't sign the Nuclear Non Proliferration Treaty, Iran did. Iran has the obligation to not make them and to go through inspections. It was a obligation it freely choose to sign on to.
- sgvalenti, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I get so tired of the same line. "Who was the only country to use nuclear weapons". It's a very tired line.
Guess what? If Japan had the bomb before us they would have used it. Same with Germany, Britain, etc. etc. - azzrik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The biggest worry here is what happened in North Korea, after all the warnings and threats, they still let off the nukes, literally stuck their noses up at America and the whole UN, what picture does this give to Iran, "our threats are hollow", you have Iranians on here stating that they have families wanting to leave Iran because this ruler of Iran is a mad man, then the actual thing is not if he uses nukes, just when and where!
- tobybuk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"First comes Saturday then comes Sunday" looked it up, go to the c4rpme.org website. Hardly an unbiased site, when its sponsored by the Jewish terrorists masquerading under the titles of:
The American Jewish Congress
The David Project
Stand with Us
In typical style Israel want to convince the west that its a war between east and west and not Israel/Arabs as it suits their purpose to trick people to supporting their Terrorism against the Arabs.
Well, its not. Israel is hated in the Middle east because they terrorize the occupied population, steal peoples land etc etc. America is hated because they blindly support Israel.
Israel be warned, someone sometime will get pissed enough at your behavior that they will fight back real hard. - SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Saddam didn't slack off on *****. He was baited to attack Kuwait by the Americans, and then he ate ***** for it. He was then put under so many embargoes and trade restrictions that there wasn't a single thing he could do without the approval of the US.
- dp1mat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yea Iran is trying to get nukes I beleive as well, dont blame em either. But im sure we the powers to be will have some kind of terror attack Supposedly done by Iran. Then we will have a reason to attack em. Hell I thought the WTC were brought down by planes, but its been talked about they couldnt do it. Then I saw something about the towers that made me go HUMM? Now I do beleive someon in this country brought em down and brought down building number 7 as well.
Been passing around that dvd to anyone thats interested round these parts. - SuckMyDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@h2d2:
Not only that, but it appears they're planning for another test.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070105/ap_on_re_as/japan_nkorea -
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