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Iran says documents show U.S. backing ''terrorists''

reuters.com — Iran has access to evidence of U.S. support for terrorist groups in the Middle East, a senior Iranian official was quoted as saying on Sunday. Iran's new chief nuclear negotiator, Saeed Jalili, made the allegation in comments to...

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  • Leopardess, on 11/01/2007, -18/+59Surely the Iranians are mistaken.
    This seems so UnAmerican.
    • bloqmon, on 10/30/2007, -1/+18/sarcasm possibly detected? going to comment anyhow ;]
      America hasn't acted American since it was founded. Even Langston Hughes knew what was up, but because he disagreed with the status quo he was labeled an untrustworthy communist. Check out his poem "Let America Be America Again."
    • tyho, on 11/04/2007, -34/+10Only an idiot would believe what Iran has to say about anything.
      • banq59, on 10/30/2007, -3/+20But you believe King Georgie and his crew of fools?
        • kingkilr, on 10/30/2007, -2/+3I don't believe either of them, is it so hard to believe that everything doesn't have to be my way or the Bush way?
      • JohanLieberg, on 10/30/2007, -1/+19only idiots won't at least listen to both sides to decide for themselves what's right.. stop watching fox news... idiot..
      • potp, on 11/03/2007, -2/+16Right now i am more willing to listen to Iran then the crap bush and his cronies have to say.
      • yingjai, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3only an idiot will believe EVERYTHING your government has to say.
    • evo8ftw, on 10/29/2007, -11/+5failed attempted at sarcasm
    • lewhich, on 11/02/2007, -3/+22Actually, Condi said "if we don't support the terrorists, Iran will"
      So I guess it is a case of first-come, first-serve
      • spiritofharvest, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Just stopped in on that one to say LOL!!! ROTFL!
    • GetDrinkOn, on 10/31/2007, -21/+3So are we still not allowed to question the patriotism of people who give more credibility to what Iran says than what the USA says?

      The number of traitors on Digg never ceases to amaze me. Time to start rounding them up.
      • Waiting2awake, on 10/31/2007, -1/+17You are allowed to question it - feel free to. Just don't get upset when they question yours.
      • TheLoneHoot, on 10/31/2007, -1/+18I question the patriotism of anyone who DOESN'T question their government
      • guntario, on 10/31/2007, -0/+10So if we the people have lost faith in the government, that makes us traitors? Shouldn't it be the other way around? People who make statements such as yours really scare me. You sound too much like one of the Party members in 1984.
      • miketherazor, on 10/31/2007, -5/+1get used to it. The colleges are turning more and more of these brainwashed idiots out every year.
      • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1just curious what did you want to round them up for? execution or jail time?
    • ZenMojo, on 10/31/2007, -0/+7We're supporting Kurdish terrorists right now in Kurdistan. So while the PKK is fighting Turkey, we're supporting militarily their offshoot, the PJAK, against Iran. Moral of the story? If you hate the guys we hate, you're not a terrorist!
      • nihilite, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3I heard a story like this about the US supporting some guys fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. That turned out pretty well, if i remember correctly.
        • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1cmon now that's a conspiracy theory...bush isn't a business partner with the bin ladens.
          *cough* arbusto oil *cough*
  • hiscity, on 10/31/2007, -17/+88Of course they have evidence. The US supported Bin Laden against the Soviets, just like the Russians are supporting Iranian terrorists now (state sponsors of terrorism).
    • markgl, on 10/30/2007, -24/+7OMG, learn your history first.
      • hafniOum, on 10/30/2007, -0/+10hmmm the guy's right, pal. US did supported Bin Laden they even did the same thing with Saddam Hussein when they were against Iran in the '80.
        • markgl, on 10/29/2007, -1/+4Yes, I know, but he's twisting the crap out of it. We helped afganistan from defending the Russians, and gave the russians a kick in the backside like they did to us with vietnam. But of course we were dumb to not realize the people we were helping would turn into the taliban. we did have closed eyes on that one.
    • GabrielS, on 10/30/2007, -37/+5The United States did not support UBL. This is a complete whitewash of history.

      There is no evidence to support the claim that "the US supported Bin Laden against the Soviets".
      • Daedalus81, on 10/29/2007, -1/+10I think the real question is if we "created" him. The support was there whether directly or indirectly. The Department of State says no, but who are you going to believe?

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghani ...
        A similar movement occurred in the Muslim world, bringing contingents of so-called Afghan Arabs, foreign fighters recruited from the
        Muslim world to wage jihad against the nonbelieving communists. Notable among them was a young Saudi named Osama bin Laden, whose Arab group eventually evolved into al-Qaeda. Most observers including the US government and ISI maintain US support was controlled by the Pakistani ISI and limited to the indigenous Afghan mujahideen, and that participation in the conflict by Osama bin Laden and other Afghan Arabs was unrelated to CIA programs.
        • GabrielS, on 10/29/2007, -3/+3UBL was an envoy to keep watch over Saudi money being sent to Afghanistan. He may have been a S.A. intelligence operative, but the Saudis won't answer that question. He was just a banker for most of the conflict. The US never had contact with him.

          He was a nobody until after the Soviets withdrew, had Abdullah Azzam assasinated, and consolidated the financial, propaganda, and recruit resources that made up the Mujahideen.
      • unknownsoldierX, on 10/30/2007, -1/+9That would be OBL, *****. Osama bin Laden. With an O. Do the world a favor and don't vote. You are not qualified.

        Here is a term you obviously missed: Mujahideen.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujahedeen#Mujahideen ...

        "The mujahideen were significantly financed, armed, and trained by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) during the Carter and Reagan administrations"

        Guess who was a part of the Mujahideen? That's what led to his fame and status with his followers.
        • GabrielS, on 10/29/2007, -7/+1O, U? That doesn't matter. He uses Usama in his communications. That's good enough.

          You can read my other comments in this Digg thread. I do comment on the Mujahideen. I do comment on the funding. I do comment on the train. The fact remains, the US never gave UBL a penny. They never trained him for one second. These are facts.
        • markgl, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1don't play stupid. we all know they're from that. we didn't arm them for their future plans. if we knew then what we know now, it wouldn't have been that way. but they are the CIA. they should've known these people plights and what they really were. we just wanted them to fight against our enemy and then years later, they became our enemy.
        • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1gabriel, do you deny taht the bush family vacations with the bin laden family and that they have been business partners for decades?
    • Rahodeb, on 10/29/2007, -2/+27I hope the result of this is every nation claiming every other supports terrorism. That way, the ridiculousness of the term is exposed, because it's scope is way too broad. Anyone at any point with a beef can be described as a "terrorist", it's like calling a plant a "weed", it's only a weed because you don't want it there. I hope the term is so overused that it becomes useless as a definition for anything.
      • milliamp, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3It is a shame I can only grant you one digg.
    • cheesehead, on 10/29/2007, -2/+2You have evidence of this ? Link please.
    • warriorscot, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2The US and other western nations have funded what we now call terrorists all over the world for a long time and still do when it suits them, if it is beneficial for them to fund anti-Iran rebels/terrorists they will do it and I would be more surprised if they didn't support them.

      Goes back to the old My enemies enemy is my friend.
    • Akufen, on 11/05/2007, -0/+1If you think the support for terrorists stopped with Bin Laden against the Soviets you're sorely mistaking though.

      Google "p2og"
  • CannedMango, on 10/31/2007, -19/+108Hopefully this opens people's (squeezed shut) eyes when it comes to declaring other nations as "terrorist" nations. America claims this absurd high-ground that just doesn't exist when it comes to global politics and waves around threats of pre-emptive war, when most of the world knows that America is one of the greatest destabilizers of world peace there is.
    • markgl, on 10/30/2007, -32/+7america hater.
      • potp, on 10/30/2007, -0/+13Well who isn't? You guys with Bush and Co has given the world a million reason to hate them.
      • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1government lover
    • GabrielS, on 10/31/2007, -22/+6Why are you so willing to believe an Iranian that was just appointed to his position by Ahmadinejad? Even the Iranian's that support peaceful acquisition of nuclear energy think the move was stupid and inflammatory.
      • quaxon, on 10/31/2007, -2/+34it doesnt take anybody to tell me america is a terrorist state, our history alone shows numerous examples of it.
      • warriorscot, on 11/02/2007, -0/+2Because it is true and has been true for at least half a century and well beyond in many cases, the fact that the US and other nations in the west support the terrorists/rebels that support there policies has been a bit of an open secret since the cold war, you are a damn full if you think they suddenly stopped doing it.
      • eviltandem, on 11/02/2007, -1/+2I'm not believing a word he says. By the definitions we use to define them as supporting terrorists they can (and should) point out we have in the past, and continue today, to fund groups others would call "terrorists".

        The Bush rhetoric not-withstanding the world isn't black and white like everyone would like to believe. We are a democracy, with lots of bureaucracy. If you believe that is all kept in check, and nobody ever does anything in our name we would decry if we knew about it (and even ignore some we do know about), you are completely, utterly, deluded.
      • CannedMango, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2It's not that the Iranians are suddenly more trustworthy than Americans, the point is that the label of "Terrorist" can be applied to any number of nations depending on the viewpoint you take, so to give America the absolute authourity in naming other countries as terrorist nations is ridiculous since much of what America does overseas can be construed as terrorism to other nations.
    • Ebacherville, on 10/31/2007, -12/+14YEs exactly, the USA government is the terrorists.. listen to Ron Paul, he has been saying exactly this.. if any country came and occupied out country and bombed us for years and years that country would piss off some people here that would go there and fly planes into there buildings too... 911 happened because were policing the world and pissing people off. .. WAKE UP you followers!! the USA is the evil 500 pound gorilla.
      • dk911, on 10/29/2007, -5/+0If American didn't, who would? Honestly answer me, who would help these countries when they asked for it? Not one single other country because they don't have the funding, the know-how, or the willingness to step out of their borders en-masse to help people. The U.S.A. has, and always WILL, step out of their borders to help nations who ask for our help. There are two sides to every conflict, and that usually involves a country that asks the U.S. for help. So we oblige, and ask for little in return -- space for our soldiers to base their operations from. Not an occupation (as some call it) but a slice of land that a base can be established upon for forward operations in hostile zones.

        The U.N. and NATO are toothless dogs when it comes to engaging anyone. Rather than fight, when fighting becomes necessary, they choose to talk.... AND talk... AND TALK... ad infinitum while nothing is done. Look at all of the places that people say the U.S. should INSTEAD focus their attentions. Why isn't the U.N. there? Where's NATO? I don't see them in these hot-zones worldwide, because they are expecting that the U.S. should be there instead. Why always the hostility towards the U.S.? What on earth have we done besides intervene when no one else would?

        And all of you god damned well know that if the U.S. DOESN'T intervene, there will be cries of "Why didn't the U.S. get involved? Where were they when we needed them?" Yes, Iraq is a bad choice -- and yes, Iran would be even worse. But the U.S. is farthest from any terror organization on this planet. We don't engage non-enemies in religious battles over stupid land-grabs. We don't invade countries for their resources, or for their money. You might say Iraq was a resource war, but so far it hasn't proven to be anything of the such.

        So, stop pointing to what G.W. Bush is doing, and look at what terrorists truly do... Show me one instance -- JUST ONE, where the U.S. has acted like terrorists?? Show me one where the U.S. has moved its forces upon a people, rather than against a military force (or one, such as Al Qaeda, pretending to be), in acts meant to induce terror? There isn't such a thing. The U.S. doesn't put bombs on its soldiers and tell them to go to market, or get on a bus, or go to a theater, or slaughter as many as possible innocent lives to prove some religious/political point.

        We have no need to do such things, because we -- the U.S. believe in democracy FOR ALL. We'd rather see the world as a democratic society where silly land/resource/religious wars don't happen. Where every man, woman, and child have the freedoms that we in the U.S. accept as a part of our daily lives. Yes, we have our own internal problems, but they pale -- PALE in the face of what goes on around the world DAILY in countries like Somalia, Iraq, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Israel, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, and the list goes on... There aren't attacks by wacko groups targeting nightclubs, grocery stores, or busses full of people. Because, as a people, we believe in helping our neighbors, even when wronged by them. And that applies to every red blooded American, and our country as a whole.

        So, don't go trying to say that the U.S.A. is a terrorist organization. Don't try pointing your finger at us, as if we're anywhere NEAR as bad as the ones who really use terror to control and contain. We have our flaws, and that is why they sting so badly when flouted on the world stage. We don't WANT to be like the rest of the world, since we're supposed to be (and I believe, we still are) a beacon of what democracy is like and how it works. We will always come to the aid of the populace, and we will always help when we can whether that be through peace, or through force.

        We are not a world police -- and yet we are, since no other country would do the same for those who share this little blue marble with us.
        • eviltandem, on 10/29/2007, -0/+6You are so deluded. It is not our job to police the whole world. We also do a piss poor job of it. We are a democracy, and that comes with some weird drawbacks. One of them being our leaders are constantly changing. We don't stick to anything like we should, because the next politician comes in with all new ideas and priorities and changes it all. Dealing with us at the national level is very irritating. We even do fantastic stuff like promise to help people, then stand back and watch them get slaughtered when it's our turn to step in. Usually because the politics of the situation has changed.

          Yeah, heaven forbid we talk. That might have shown us Sadam didnt' have weapons, and stopped the whole thing. Talk is evil. War is good.

          Want instances of America funding terrorists? How about the Iran-Contra Affair? Osama bin Laden against the russians? Bay of Pigs invasion? Were the KKK not a religious terrorist group? How about the attempts on Fidel Castros life? I could go on for days...

          No, no, we HAD laws. Thankfully we've removed and/or circumvented every one of them in the deliberate attempt to destroy the spirit of those laws. When they torture us it's terrorism. When we torture them it's "intelligence gathering".
        • khatarnaak, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2"Why always the hostility towards the U.S.? What on earth have we done besides intervene when no one else would?"

          Why have you not intervened in Zimbabwe? The entire world would love you millions. The simple answer to this is that you intervene based on economics - it's as simple as that!

          Iraq has oil whereas Zimbabwe has not.

          "Why always the hostility towards the U.S.? What on earth have we done besides intervene when no one else would?"

          1971: Bangladesh War of Independence.
          The US publicly stated that it had placed an arms embargo on Pakistan, when in fact it was still supplying the Pakistanis with arms, who in turn committed unleashed indiscriminate mass murder upon the Bengalis (Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Scholars...)

          Need I go on? Ask Henry Kissinger, I'm sure that ***** will fill you in.
        • Breepee, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2The question is who should, not who would. A sovereign nations means that they're sovereign, eg: sort out things themselves.
          • bjornski, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Just as we should do with Israel, instead of fighting their wars for them and paying for their military.
    • CornmealMush, on 10/29/2007, -9/+3If you hate the country you live in so much, ***** leave and go to Iran where you get killed on public television when you speak out. I can't believe half the ***** the people here say... One would almost think this is a anti-American site for all the ***** I see.
      • Gustomucho, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4If Democracy is anti-America, ***** America.
        • CornmealMush, on 10/29/2007, -3/+0No, Democracy isn't but it is something that people take advantage of and use the same right given by our country to bash our country and support another country that kills for the exact same thing. People need to recognize and have a little respect for what they have and show some gratefulness for this country and the what it provides for us. Our government isn't the best, but it's better than most. If there is such a hatred for us then move to an Al Queda training camp in Iraq and we'll be sure to hit you with our next bomb.
          • Gustomucho, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4You mean CIA-Alqueda training camp. Anyway I am Canadian, last time I checked I don't even need to be on the other team for you to bomb me. You government is a lot worst than most, you are lucky prior governments pave the way you are walking and destroying right now. If you condone your government's action, you need to wake up, Mr 27% of the U.S population, that is why I said Democracy is in full effect here, 73% thinks your leader is bad, get a clue, I am sure a big chunk of the civilized world share the same view.
          • Spytap, on 10/29/2007, -1/+1"No, Democracy isn't but it is something that people take advantage of"

            This is one of the saddest and most ignorant statements I've ever read on Digg.
          • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1so Cornmeal, you're saying we can't be vocal about our government (not our country) if we don't believe in what they are doing?
            Can we not be outraged and upset? Should we shut up because that is what America is about?
        • Gustomucho, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3Please give me good reason to think Mr Bush did a good job in the last 7 years he was in power. Less pollution? Less Crime? Prosperity? World recognition? Culture boost? World Peace? U.S citizen freedom (aka spying) ? Sorry, but Bush is the worst thing that happened to USA . I used to love your country, and since Bush is there it has been a downward spiral to hell.
      • StarlessKnight, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3It is American to say what you believe. It is also American to persuade people to change their mind. I see no reason why people calling America a terrorist-sponsoring nation should require that they leave America.

        Sticks and stones, after all...
      • CannedMango, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3Maybe I should go live in Iraq where people are killed by Americans just for trying to live their lives.
    • 4degrees, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3America, destabilizing world peace since... since... wait, when has the world been peaceful?
      • warriorscot, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3No profit in peace
        • StarlessKnight, on 10/29/2007, -1/+2According to the Rules of Acquisition, both Peace and War are good for business.
          • 4degrees, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1its the fact that you have both that makes for the profit.
      • khatarnaak, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2Actually, your question should be, "when has America tried to create peace?"
    • r00tus3r, on 10/29/2007, -1/+3"America claims this absurd high-ground that just doesn't exist when it comes to global politics"

      I'd digg you up twice for that statement if I could. People don't understand when I insist I'm not anti-American but say that people that watch and believe all the political propaganda from the western media are sheep. I think America are the best super power we could have right now, but, that said, you have to realise that a lot of their labeling and political name calling is *****. Especially considering what happened in HIroshima, and to bring it closer to the present day, Guantanamo.
  • hiscity, on 10/31/2007, -56/+8Any Christian worth their salt knows what's coming -- one beast of a government with 7 heads and 10 horns -- no doubt including what was once America, (Revelation 13). Of course, that beast gets gobbled up too, law of the jungle style.

    So yeah, America is compromised, just like the rest. Since no earthly nation has a high moral ground to stand on, that only leaves the Kingdom of Heaven. When everything is said and done, that's all that will be left.

    In the mean time, the King of Heaven is the only solution -- the King of kings and Lord of lords -- Jesus Christ, the Messiah!
    • 3ugene, on 10/30/2007, -8/+37Isn't religion the main cause of war and terrorism? I mean besides the stuff that our government sponsors.
      • RedNeckerson, on 10/29/2007, -19/+6No darlin'. Political ideology is.
        • positron, on 10/29/2007, -3/+23Political ideology sustained by religious ignorance.
          • RedNeckerson, on 10/30/2007, -14/+5The most violent political ideology that has ever existed calls religion the "opiate of the people". Communists are atheists, therefore they are ignorant of religion.....so you're right!
            You win!
          • xedd, on 10/29/2007, -1/+8redneckerson said "Communists are atheists, therefore they are ignorant of religion"...

            Not really true. An atheist ('communist' or not) is free of the brainwashing of religion, not 'ignorant of' religion.
      • mrjit, on 10/31/2007, -3/+16This guys preaching Christianity, and we all know Christianity is the beacon of light that would /never/ cause war. coughcrusadeswitchhuntscough.
        • p0s3r, on 10/31/2007, -8/+2The crusades were a response to moslem aggression.
          There, now you're less ignorant of history.
        • TheLoneHoot, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2Chicken vs egg

          Spanish inquisition? Explain that one with babyjesusmagic.
        • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1iraq war?
    • mydigga, on 10/31/2007, -9/+17Do you by chance still believe in Santa Claus?
    • sund0wn, on 10/31/2007, -16/+0the messiah is here already... http://www.alislam.org/library/messiah.html
    • pitlord, on 10/31/2007, -5/+1Christians who insist on elevating Jesus to the same level as G-d are going to be punished when the messiah comes. There is only one G-d and you couldn't pronounce his name even if you knew what it was. So, stop calling Jesus the "Lord of lords."
      "Hear, oh Israel H-shem is our G-d! H-shem is One! Blessed be the name of the ruler of all time and space."
      • TheLoneHoot, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3"There is only one G-d and you couldn't pronounce his name even if you knew what it was."

        Uh, duh, it's pronounced "CHUCK NORRIS"
    • kaelyiesta, on 10/29/2007, -0/+6Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the reason 25% of america still supports bush: ***** insane religious nuts.
      • diggbot7, on 10/29/2007, -1/+1Newsflash to hiscity: you're nuts
      • hablabla, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Kaelyiesta, I think you missed the point of what hiscity was saying. He wasn't supporting Bush. He was stating that we shouldn't be surprised if(when) the USA implodes. You have every right to bash Christians, K. But if you are going to do it, at least bash them logically.
    • hablabla, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Remember pearls and swine, my friend.
      • hiscity, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Yes of course. There's also that "if I raise Jesus up all will be drawn to Him."
  • vault, on 10/29/2007, -36/+20Yeah because the Iranian government is a pretty unbiased source with no agenda at all, and they haven't been accused of the same thing themselves.

    Unbelievable some of these comments....
    • nblsavage, on 10/29/2007, -7/+17Got proof to the contrary?
    • Frei, on 10/29/2007, -6/+30Are you claiming the Bush administration is an unbiased source?
      • CannedMango, on 10/30/2007, -0/+5the Bush Administration doesn't lie and they are trying to help us!!!

        Now let's all hate Iran like we're supposed to.
    • RedNeckerson, on 10/31/2007, -35/+8Threads like this are dominated by stormfronters, Jew-haters, communists, and non-religious muslims who want to see the United States and anything else that's positive in the world collapse. Don't fret though. You and I can get dugg down together.
      As long as we have the guns, all they have the power to do is vent in digg threads.
      • nblsavage, on 10/29/2007, -5/+31oh yeah..we're all against you "true 'mericans"
        Get bent you fascist *****.
      • Frei, on 10/29/2007, -6/+14"As long as we have the guns, all they have the power to do is vent in digg threads."

        Dude, you are hilarious.
        • miketherazor, on 10/31/2007, -8/+1it is only funny becuase he is right. That is what I think is funny.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5Not having one comment on the page with more than -2 diggs, and yet still trying, that's what I think is funny.
      • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+9Anyone sure what a "non-religious" muslim is? I'm fairly certain the definition of of muslim is...one who adheres to Islam. So...Ignorance, with a maybe a touch of racism?
        • card51short, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2no...just ignorance...its redneckerson we're talking about here
      • miketherazor, on 10/31/2007, -9/+1You hit the nail on the head. As long as we keep the second amendment, these Digg freaks can vent all they want. I know that most of these communist America Haters have never even picked up a weapon. They would probably turn their handguns to the side like in the movies and have hot cases hitting them in the face HAHA. The arrogance is suffocating on this website. I know that most of the time to find a comment that makes sense, all I have to do is see who has been dugg down.

        America is and has been a force of good in the world. Europeans are worthless girly men and Africa is full of insane tribalism. Mexico down through South America is overrun with corrupt politicians and drug lords. The Middle East is full of psychopaths and nut-jobs (except Israel of course). I would love to see the day that we sealed our borders and brought all our troops back from everywhere and stopped giving anyone any of our money. Screw the rest of the world...let it rot. Now go ahead and digg me down you believers of free speech.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+6That's the beautiful thing about Digg, it's free speech, but when you say ***** that most people know is wrong, it gets dugg down. Think of it as a barometer for how out of tune with national sentiment you actually are. You equate loving America with being able to shoot a gun straight. I dont even know how to respond to how stupid that is. Your comments about the rest of the world are ignorant, and you're making it clear you don't get out of the country much. Have fun getting dugg down, and since the "arrogance is suffocating on this website", why don't you do us a favor and just stop posting?
          • miketherazor, on 10/31/2007, -7/+3You only believe that most people disagree with me because you only talk to people who agree with you and only read news articles that you agree with. If you disagree with it, then you assume it is wrong. The majority of idiots on Digg hate America, so I should just shut up and let you spout your hate about the country I love? I would be doing a dis-service to the founding fathers to let pond scum such as yourself get away with defaming my country. No sir, I'm not going away. My comments about the rest of the world are dead on. I've traveled the world and seen it first hand. I've served my country in the arm forces as well, if you are an American, what have you done to deserve the freedoms of the very nation you hate? Other than being born, I suspect nothing. Either way it doesn't matter to me, I can sleep secure at night knowing that their are still more people like me than you in the country. Go have another mocha java and sit around with your commie buddies and feel intellectually superior all you want but in the end I know that I am right!
          • RedNeckerson, on 10/31/2007, -6/+2Except the "most people" you speak of represents who is interested in the thread rather than most people.
            In this case, "most people" are Al Qaeda sympathizers or members/sympathizers of other hate groups. I'm pleased to be dugg down in this thread because it indicates I'm in the right.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Redneck-Are you ***** serious? The world is not black and white. I thought we were past the "If you dont trust and support our government you're with the terrorists" argument. And by most people, I mean most people. Check out bush's approval ratings. If you're pleased to be dugg down, you're sort of missing the purpose of this site, But i'll do my best to keep you happy.
          • miketherazor, on 10/29/2007, -2/+1You can disagree with government policies but the people on here just plain hate America. You can't deny that, just look at the comments.
          • card51short, on 11/11/2007, -0/+2AL K-DER IS GONNA GIT US, BOAY!
            WE GOTTA BOMB DEM A-RABS TO PERTECT 'MERICA!
            YOU WITH THE TERRISTS?
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Pond Scum?
      • tyho, on 10/31/2007, -6/+2America is the greatest force for good this world has ever known. Proud Americans = "fascist *****" huh? Pretty much tells you all you need to know about the uninformed haters in this thread.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/29/2007, -1/+2No dude, the implication that "as long as we have the guns" we have the power is fascism. That's it.
          • miketherazor, on 11/11/2007, -1/+0@cecine Nope that is just the facts....
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 11/11/2007, -0/+1@ Mike- Right. I know that's the facts. That's why its fascist. Righteousness is not birthed from power.
        • guntario, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4Well, if you took the time to read our past history and the current events, you would definitely change your mind about the US government being a force for good in this world. Notice that I did not lay the blame on us average Americans, but on our elected officials. Most things our government has been doing in the last century have been behind closed doors and kept from the public.
        • miketherazor, on 10/29/2007, -3/+1guntario, the last century huh? You mean like saving the world during world war 1. Saving the world in world war 2? Saving South Korea from the communists? Saving the world from the USSR during the cold war? Saving muslims in Bosnia? Saving Kuwait from Saddam? Being the most generous country in the world, giving out more aid to more countries than any other country in the world? You mean all that evil stuff? IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        • TheLoneHoot, on 10/30/2007, -2/+2@miketherazor
          Don't forget not helping with the genocide in Rwanda - you know, the poor country with out any oil where a million people were butchered?
          Oh, and don't forget about Palestine and our blind loyalty to the illegal state of Israel (no, that's not anti-semitic).
          Oh, and don't forget the millions of thankful Cambodians and Laotians - er, wait, we let them die in our secret bombing raids... hmmmm...
          okay, um, don't forget the millions of people thankful for our overthrow of the King of Iran and installation of the Shah... oh, wait, um, yeah.... about that... um seems they didn't want that after all.
          Don't forget about the Venezuelans trying to get us to extradite a wanted terrorist PROVEN to have blown up an airliner over Cuba.

          Yeah, I'm sure they're happy.

          Did I mention the fact that we continue to let those responsible for the negligent deaths of 20,000 people in Bhopal go free in this country because they're rich, connected Americans?

          Sorry meant to mention that one too. Oh there are just SOOOOO many people glad to thank us... I guess I should have started with the native Americans first, huh?
          • miketherazor, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1@TheLoneHoot, whose name is so fitting. You like to point out where inaction was the cause of what you consider evil while leaving out all of the things we have done as a country that were good. Like all propagandists, you pick and choose what serves your twisted agenda of hate. I challenge you to name ONE country that has done more good than the United States; just ONE! Name ONE country where the people have more freedom and liberty! The whole continent of Africa is one big war where life is cheap.

            We went to Somalia to feed the people and look where that got us.

            Israel is not an illegal state. It was put in place by the united nations and the land was given by the British who owned it at the time.

            We didn't kill millions of Cambodians or Laotians, that is just a lie. After idiots like you protested the just war in Vietnam until our country was so divided we had to leave, Pol Pot and the Kamer Rouge killed over 2 million people while he imposed his communist government on his people. Ever hear about that? What history books are you reading idiot?

            And you're reaching pretty hard to try and lay Bhopal at the feet of the American government. Union Carbide is an international corporation and you can't believe that the plant was manned by Americans, you know that labor laws would make it so the Indian people themselves were running the plants so explain again how that accident was America's fault?

            You are just a typical America Basher with typical international jealousy. That is why I say screw all of you ungrateful idiots. We should close the borders and let you destroy one another. At least you wouldn't be able to blame us...ummmm wait of course you would, it is in your nature just as the snake can't help itself from biting.....
      • TheLoneHoot, on 10/30/2007, -2/+3Do you write for Squidbillies?
    • zeitgueist, on 10/31/2007, -1/+18You do realize that we supported Sadam's regime for a long time, and supported the al Qaeda in Afghanistan against the soviets, right? This isn't even a secret.
      • GabrielS, on 10/31/2007, -6/+2There was no Al Qaida fighting the Soviet Union. This is false history. Al Qaida did not form until Bin Laden consolidated the resources supplying recruits, funds, and propaganda until after the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan.
        • skinfrakki, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2True but that only happened after the US ditched Afghanistan since the cold war was over.
        • zeitgueist, on 10/31/2007, -1/+8My mistake, you are correct in terms of organization. However we were supporting radical muslim "freedom fighters" in the area, and essentially armed and trained what became Al Qaeda. OBL was a major asset for the CIA.
        • halavais, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4"False history" is an amusing term. There are interpretations of history. If you define al Qaeda in that way--a way they do not define themselves--then you are right. If you consider it to be a broader movement, that was in part sustained by the Taliban regime, then you are wrong.

          Playing with definitions is a pretty wriggly way of getting out of ethical and policy quandaries; cf "torture."
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Right, the group formally known as Al Qeada didn't exist there. However, the U.S. supported the Taliban/warlords against the Soviets for many years, arming and funding their operations. This is documented. After the Soviets pulled out, these groups either formed into the Taliban or became one of the territories contested by warlords. This is what allowed "Al Qaeda", and with much of the arms/cash provided by the U.S.
        • miketherazor, on 10/29/2007, -2/+0Of course!!! Stalin was our ally in WW2. SO WHAT! The enemy of my enemy is my friend!!!!
        • TheLoneHoot, on 10/29/2007, -1/+2@miketherazor

          Um, you watch a lot of "Survivor" don't you?
          • miketherazor, on 10/29/2007, -2/+0Um, no, I just read books you idiot. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. - Arabian proverb. Look it up fool.
  • meshman, on 10/31/2007, -19/+80These days, I'd much more believe Iran than Chimpy McFlightSuit and Darth Cheney.
    • xGORDOx, on 10/31/2007, -26/+9Yea, cuz it makes sense to believe someone who denies the Holocaust ever happened.
      You're an idiot.
      • objectcode, on 10/31/2007, -17/+6lets not forget he wants to "wipe Israel off the map"
      • cecinestpasvrai, on 10/31/2007, -1/+9Look,Ahmadinejad didn't even say this, read the article. But our government believes some crazy ***** too:
        "God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them." -Bush

        http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2003/11 ...


      • 4degrees, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3i think he means that the holocaust didnt happen to just the jewish people, the holocaust is NOT ONLY about the jews. (6mill out of 60mil).
        • bjornski, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2And yet you never hear about the other 54 million. Or give their people a homeland stolen from someone else.
    • 4degrees, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1suppliment to my previous comment: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_soldiers_died_i ...

      just some food for thought.
    • ICSU, on 10/29/2007, -2/+1Why? ***** them both.
      • bjornski, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Yeah! Apathy cures all!
      • bjornski, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1(double post deleted)

        How's that "delete comment" option coming, guys?
  • syroncoda, on 10/30/2007, -5/+11it wouldn't surprise me.
  • RedNeckerson, on 10/31/2007, -46/+21Iran says the holocaust never happened too.
    Iran executes 16 year old girls for being "immoral".
    Yeah, let's roll around in whatever they say as if whatever they have to say is true, shall we?
    • NinjaBoy, on 10/31/2007, -8/+19Digg him down if you must but he does have a valid point. You cant trust iran any more than you can trust bush. EVERY government will lie if it benefits them
      • theaceoffire, on 10/30/2007, -1/+9Sadly, I think your right.
        I just wish there was one group that DIDN'T lie all the time.
        • Breepee, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2That would be the Europeans. They also don't do anything all the time. Maybe that's a good thing after all...
          • miketherazor, on 10/30/2007, -0/+0PLEASE, I lived in Europe for years, they lie just as much as anyone else. Politicians are the same everywhere you go.
    • Frei, on 10/31/2007, -2/+25Iran didn't say that, their President did, a president who can't really make any decisions on his own. Our president thinks the world is 6 thousand years old and that the book of revelation is true. They're both idiots.
      • RedNeckerson, on 10/31/2007, -26/+2...and you're just a fountain of insight. Why aren't you president of something?
        • Frei, on 10/31/2007, -2/+23If you're offering me the job at your local klan HQ I'll have to decline. I have too many teeth for the job.
          • RedNeckerson, on 10/29/2007, -17/+3But I think you'd make an excellent klan leader no matter how bright your smile.

            Seething hatred of Jews. - check
            Hatred of the United States. - check
            Support for our enemies. - check
            Hatred overides logic - check

            I don't know. You might think about printing up some buttons and see how much support your brothers in ideology give you.
          • Frei, on 10/29/2007, -2/+15I can't believe I'm going to humor this but hey, why not. Not liking the Israeli gov't and Zionism doesn't not a make someone an anti-Semite as much as you would like it. I love the US, I love it so much it disgusts me when it gets hijacked by a group of neo-con assholes who ***** on our values and integrity. ...The next just doesn't make sense and lastly, I don't really hate anyone. Sorry.
          • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1but frei...AL K-DER, man...AL K-DER.
        • revjustin2, on 10/29/2007, -1/+6dude - quit it with the personal attacks will you? You are not doing your viewpoint any favors that way and the pity is that you have some valid things to say. It is soo hard for me not to digg you down just for being a troll which, I suspect, you may very well be.
      • republicker, on 10/29/2007, -4/+2Well it looks as though humans evolved to be religious in nature for the most part. Better get used to it because one God or another will be steering this world for another millennium.
      • Xill, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2He didnt say that either, he said the inportance we give to the Jewish holocause is unjustified and is not more important than the number of dead Russians or Polish. The ones on the side of eugenics and that promote a Facist worldwide-control-grid are Bush , Cheney, Rotschild, Rockfeller etc.
    • tehnico, on 10/30/2007, -1/+14The US actively sponsored and committed terrorism in it's past, it's easy to say that it does today as well. It was a popular belief long before Iran ever alleged it. I am positive that it will be confirmed in the future one way or another.
    • banq59, on 10/30/2007, -2/+15And the US invades countries to get their oil killing thousands of innocent men women and children. What's your point?
      • miketherazor, on 10/30/2007, -4/+1so if that is true why the hell am I paying so much at the gas station? We haven't gotten any oil. That is just a lib myth.
        • TheLoneHoot, on 10/30/2007, -1/+5First of all, with prices adjusted for inflation (and that's important), gasoline is one of the cheapest commodities you regularly buy. Adjusted for inflation it should cost around $5 a gallon or so here in the US as opposed to $3. But to take on your commnet, you're paying a lot for gas because the Bushco/PNAC plans didn't work out too well. They ***** it up good, and now they've ***** us forever. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out what they were so unbelievably obvioulsy trying to pull off. It also doesn't take the sharpest bulb in the knife drawer to see that they ***** it up.

          Why do you think they ordered the oil wells and pipelines secured before they secured the munitions depots and power stations?
          • miketherazor, on 11/05/2007, -1/+0blah blah blah you keep talking but not saying anything. Which is it? Are we getting oil for being in Iraq like you all keep saying or not? We aren't and that is the facts. They secured the pipelines because Saddam showed in the first gulf war that he would burn his own oil wells to try and slow us down (Read history books, they help a lot, I am old enough to remember and make my own mind up unlike you liberal drones). The US figured they would do it again and cause another enviromental problem....you know like the one's all you libs are always crying about while hugging trees and wearing your hemp made hippy parkas. Morons!
        • bjornski, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2Oil industry profits seem to show differently.

          Their record profits are why you don't see a reduction in prices. And their multi-billion dollar tax reduction is part of why yours keep going up.
    • Ebacherville, on 10/30/2007, -2/+3EVery country has diffrent ideas of whats fair and just.. third world countries are usually more brutial.. you want to save then educate them don't attack them.. violence never gets anywhere.
    • hllclmbr, on 10/31/2007, -4/+8ad hominem
      ad hominem
      straw man
  • tehnico, on 10/31/2007, -0/+12Duh...
  • rusty123jimi, on 10/30/2007, -14/+8God Damn...can we please just stop with all of this bull *****! Lets just focus on ending this instead of gossiping about some more!
    • TheLoneHoot, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Go ahead and get right on it Rusty... we're right behind you following your lead!
  • swrostmore, on 10/30/2007, -3/+21I doubt Iran has evidence any more than we have evidence of Iran backing terrorists. Doesn't mean its not happening, but governments love citing imaginary "evidence" which is coincidentally always too secret to show anyone.
    • notque, on 10/30/2007, -1/+8Why would you doubt that? They've had evidence for quite awhile considering the terrorists the U.S. are supporting have been fairly open about the whole thing.

      It's actually true. Both sides know it, and evidence wouldn't be that hard for Iran to get considering the networks in Iran.

      The next question is, do you think this group are really terrorists? But they certainly have evidence of it.
      • swrostmore, on 10/31/2007, -2/+7Do you believe Bush when he says he has evidence about Iranian support for Iraqi militants? If anything, I'd consider Ahmadenijad to have even lower standards of proof.
        • notque, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2I don't believe what any leader says. I do believe Iran is supporting Iraqi people. I believe Iraqi people want that, and it isn't our decision to make.

          I don't believe what Ahmadenijad says either. But the U.S. is definately supporting "militants" in Iran. There only place to meet is in Iraq protected by the U.S. military.

          It isn't exactly a secret.
        • Waiting2awake, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1Why is that? Not saying you are wrong, but it seems to me you can't have much lower standards towards truth than making up lies to go to war.... But if you think the Iranian President can top that.... I'd like to hear it.

    • Rahodeb, on 10/30/2007, -4/+1I have evidence that shows you are right.
    • halavais, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4> I doubt Iran has evidence any more than we have evidence of Iran backing terrorists.

      But we do, and they do. The sad part of this is that both governments (or at least factions of both governments) have been supporting terrorists. Hell, we even managed to get together long enough to supply arms to terrorist/freedom fighters in Nicaragua.

      Now, if someone suggests that Holland or Sweden have been funding or providing weapons to terrorists, then I'll be surprised. Claiming that Iran or the US is? Not so much.
    • ICSU, on 10/30/2007, -1/+2They may have "evidence". They know how to torture people too, after all.
  • MaTT2011, on 10/31/2007, -9/+5yah!? Well i've seen you supporting terrorists!

    Nuh uh! YOU'RE the one purpoorts bearorrists!! Big meanie!
  • razorc03, on 10/30/2007, -16/+5Wait, what? Why are people digging this?
    • eth3l, on 10/30/2007, -13/+3Because the majority of diggers are high school kids that dont know any better and dont think for themselves. They are irrational.
      • stgben, on 10/30/2007, -0/+8"Don't think for themselves..."
        This is exactly what the Bush Administration would like you to do when it comes to seeing Iran as a terrorist nation. Actually listening to both sides and hearing the FACTS is thinking for yourself. Digging this post down because it involves Iranian intelligence is not thinking for yourself.
        • razorc03, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Wow, since when did hearing something and reading something from behind a computer screen suddenly become fact? Seems people like you are willing to accept ANYTHING that is coming from the mainstream media without "thinking for yourself" whether they themselves are presenting truth. This argument could go in circles.
          BTW, what makes the Iranian govt more trust worthy than ours. If you trust Iran's govt more, why dont you just move over there? I'm sure they'll treat you with class, much better than the Bush administration, right?
      • razorc03, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1I honestly can't agree with you any more. And people like us, who do think for themselves, are silenced (buried) because we go against mainstream media thinking. So much for freedom of speech. Hypocrits.
    • Handcannons, on 10/31/2007, -8/+2Are you kidding? An anti-US story on Digg and you're wondering why people are digging it? This is prime fodder for this crowd.
    • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1yes because being critical about your country and questioning their moves is anti-american.
      No matter WHAT the president decides to do, you should be for it or you hate America.
  • jeremyduffy, on 10/31/2007, -4/+29Terrorist: One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives

    They're right! Congress and the White House are full of them.
  • Ebacherville, on 11/02/2007, -9/+38the CIA trained Bin Lauden, the USA put sadam in power of iraq.. look it up its history and easly researchable.. this the exact same stuff just a different day!!! WAKE UP AMERICA we have to keep to our own business and not police the world!

    Gosh and you wonder why I'm voting for RON PAUL..
    • eth3l, on 10/30/2007, -17/+4No, I dont. I also dont wonder when you walk around with a tin foil hat.
      • clownguyx, on 10/30/2007, -0/+12Tin foil hat? He stated facts. Those are not theories, you can learn this stuff watching the history channel. Except I'm not sure if he is correct about putting Sadam in power, but we definitely funded him and provided him with weapons for the Iraq/Iran war.
        • card51short, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1its ok...we may have the tin foil hats...they have a sweaty, disgusting, ***** smeared "SUPPORT BUSH" hat that is rotting away and smelling like decay and death and they are proud of it.
    • Smokersroom, on 10/30/2007, -7/+10Instead of the hide 'profanity' filter, we need a hide 'ron paul' filter.
    • frostedflakes, on 10/30/2007, -2/+1I agreed with what you were saying until I read "Ron Paul."
  • AntBing, on 10/30/2007, -21/+6This propaganda is about as believable as Iran not having any gay people.
  • tankdilla, on 10/31/2007, -7/+19It's no secret the US supports terrorists. Condoleeza Rice even admitted it.
  • DirtyBurger, on 10/31/2007, -3/+16Although whatever Iran says about any other country should be taken with a grain of salt, it's not entirely impossible. All we have to do is look at history. Look at what happened in Afganistan when they (Afghanis) were fighting the Russians! The CIA trained and armed Osama Bin Laden and his group the Taliban to fight the communist Russians! And oops, oh dear, I guess the almighty U.S. just forgot to ask for the guns and tanks back. And now look what's happening. And sure, executing a 16 year old girl for being immoral is barbaric. But then again so is holding your own and other citizens illegally and without charges in secret prisions WITHOUT legal representation. The United States' foreign policy is so hypcritical and backwards, that it's almost impossible to believe you didn't see Sept. 11th coming. You are not the world police. Stop acting like it.
    • eth3l, on 10/29/2007, -6/+3Are you a foreign policy expert? have you studied foregin policy? Do you have some expertise that you can impart to us to tell the leaders of this country how to respond to international events the world has never seen before? Probably not.

      the US will stop being the "World Police" when crazy psychopaths stop threatening dissenters and free people.
      • Frei, on 10/29/2007, -2/+7"when crazy psychopaths stop threatening dissenters and free people."

        Valerie Plame
      • DirtyBurger, on 10/29/2007, -1/+5Actually yes, I am in school studying that very subject right now. Hmmm, well if you MUST insist on "helping" people, (Dropping bombs on residential areas is hardly helping people) do so through the U.N. Gain international support and go in LEGALLY. That's how you do it properly. You don't just storm into a country, remove the dictator, install some puppet to the U.S. and just think that it's going to work! Are you all really that un-informed? There are far worse things going on in Sudan (things like genocide) that countries like the U.S. should be concerned about. The only reason the U.S. doenn't care is because they (Africa) aren't sitting on gallons of oil. And to them, it's just a bunch of black people being killed. In the Middle East however, there are Muslim extremists running about, can't have that! But then again, there is a Christian extremist RUNNING YOUR COUNTRY. How ironic is it that there are so many parallels between George Bush Jr. and histories most violent tyrants?
    • noahhoward, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5"You are not the world police."

      If you could get that in writing from your government it would make life here a lot easier.
    • objectcode, on 10/29/2007, -2/+3we are the world police
    • Spoomeister, on 10/29/2007, -1/+0"You are not the world police. Stop acting like it."
      Stop asking us to be the world police, then.
      I for one would gladly support Dr. Ron Paul's idea of withdrawing all U.S. troops and closing all U.S. military bases around the world.
      • DirtyBurger, on 10/30/2007, -1/+0I'm glad you're supporting Ron Paul, the only Republican who should even be allowed to run. But no one asks you to be the world police, you just do it. In fact, i'm pretty sure there were a handful of protests or so back in 2003...and 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007...but you know, maybe they were telling you to keep up the good work.
  • chris9902, on 10/30/2007, -4/+9well I am shocked! shocked!
  • GabrielS, on 10/30/2007, -3/+11lol, it's worse than I thought.

    Iran thinks the United States condones the PKK attacks launched inside Turkey.

    "Iran's new chief nuclear negotiator, Saeed Jalili, made the allegation in comments to visiting Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan, whose country may soon send troops to hunt down Kurdish guerrillas in northern Iraq."

    Iran is trying to sell a bag of tricks to Turkey. Iran is trying to push Turkey into closing down the US supply line from the north of Iraq.

    Iran doesn't have a very strong record on treatment of it's Kurdish minority since the deposing of the Shah.
    • arsalan, on 10/29/2007, -0/+2"Iran doesn't have a very strong record on treatment of it's Kurdish minority since the deposing of the Shah."
      and what makes you to say that? I tell you why you think that though...it's because Kurdish minority were trying to establish their own country...and i bet if you were the leader of a country that was about to lose two of its States just for fun you would have done something like what they did.

      Go get your history about countries right, then come here and start the bull *****
  • noahhoward, on 10/31/2007, -11/+2I didn't realise inflammatory political statements were part of a nuclear negotiators job description.
  • UomodiRispetto, on 10/30/2007, -0/+10"Three people may keep a secret if two of them are dead."
    Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac
  • beck001, on 10/29/2007, -0/+3Aren't they just talking about the MEK? If so, they have been claiming this for a while, and its true. They hate the MEK, but Iran has said a lot of lies too. They also said not a single Shia was responsible for a road-side bomb in Iraq.

    Not that any of this is a cause for war, I think it is just posturing.
    • GabrielS, on 10/29/2007, -2/+1Read the article. Jallili is talking about the PKK. He thinks the US condones PKK attacks on a major US ally in the region. That makes as much sense as Michael Bay making Pearl Harbor 2.
      • clothmonkey, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1"OK, how about this: A giant meteor crashes into the base WHMMMMMMmmMMMMM Bam, and then..."
  • republicker, on 10/30/2007, -7/+11All governments are terrorists.
    • clothmonkey, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1By the BushCo definition of it, certainly, it's one of the reasons they like that definition - they can point fingers at anybody they don't like.
  • evo8ftw, on 10/31/2007, -6/+3Yeah ok Iran there as credible as the CIA
  • freezeout, on 10/30/2007, -1/+9see here's the thing - when we back them they are no longer "terrorists", they are "freedom fighters". of course the second they are of no use to us they become terrorists again..
  • eth3l, on 10/30/2007, -3/+2The muhajideen group is, I think, called the MHK. They operate in Iraq and Iran does not like them.

    Wake up people ... this is not your grandaddy's war.
    • DirtyBurger, on 10/29/2007, -2/+3Wow, I truly feel sorry for you eth3l. Go read a history book you ***** hermit. Where have you been? That's how the Taliban became powerful, and that's how they got away with attacking you! News flash, you haven't stopped the terrorists, you are not winning. Osama is kicking it in his pimped out cave laughing at all you slack-jawed yokels bombing Iraq.
  • Vicujozobenaxod, on 10/31/2007, -8/+3We are listening to Iran now...what next?
    • Waiting2awake, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3truth knows no borders, and while we shouldn't believe them because they are Iran, maybe we should believe them because we all have know it for quite some time. Heck with "the google" we might even bring up some national US newspapers discussing the fundings of these groups - of course I think they refer to them as "Factions"....

    • 4degrees, on 10/29/2007, -0/+1bill oreilly
    • CannedMango, on 11/01/2007, -0/+3it might get so bad that we start trusting Cheney!
  • meltlight, on 10/30/2007, -2/+10um. let's see the documents.
    • evo8ftw, on 11/02/2007, -5/+2haha you got buried down for this comment. The BDS have lost it they are more willing to take the word of a fascist then the leader of the free world.
    • evo8ftw, on 11/02/2007, -5/+1haha you got buried down for this comment. The BDS have lost it they are more willing to take the word of a fascist then the leader of the free world.
  • clownguyx, on 11/02/2007, -0/+34If we support them, then they are called freedom fighters. If Iran supports them, they are terrorists.
  • josefresco, on 10/30/2007, -8/+3The argument wouldn't even pass a high school debate test.
    Their point in a nutshell is that the US is occupying Iraq and existing in Iraq are various terrorist organizations. Therefore the US is responsible (read: backing) these terrorist groups because they "allow them to exist" or don't terminate them.
    Not exactly a smoking gun tying the US directly now is it?
    Backing != Failure to Eliminate Completely
    • Frei, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5No, their argument is that the US is ignoring the PKK specifically.
  • URnotheonly1, on 10/30/2007, -5/+7140000 troops don't occupy *****. Get a clue morons.
  • sobenofear, on 10/30/2007, -13/+4No no no! You people have it all wrong. Of course the US is supporting terrorism. I mean come on. IRAN said so. The US is responsible for global warming, high oil prices, political instability around the world, terrorism, unfair trade practices, the cause of war, and giving you that atomic wedgie you got in third grade.

    I mean come on. From what I keep hearing and reading in the media, the US is responsible for the ENTIRE woes of the world. We are the evil bogey man on the block. Why, if we only had Bubba Clinton back in the white house, we could all just sit around camp fire and sing (butchered spelling) coom-by-ya, give ourselves a nice happy joy,joy feeling knowing that JUST because we have that schmuck (or any liberal) in the white house, everything will be okay.

    Oh, Bush is a putz who needs to be impeached, along with EVERYONE in DC. I'm no fan of his. Ebacherville is correct too in his facts of bin laden. Do the research. From the end (and even before) WW1, to present, the League of Nations, UN, US, England, and various others have carved up and messed around with the middle east and elsewhere. Check you history. Iraq, Iran, Jordan, and others were carved up at the end of WW1. More or less, it was because of the oil.

    The Shaw of Iran was a puppet of sorts of the US who was brutal and corrupt. BUT, if Carter had done something to help stop the Islamic Revolution and gotten the (deliberately misspelled, I could've just typed it into google and gotten the correct spelling) eye-ah-toll-ah and his band of crackheads, Iran's gooberment wouldn't be such a piece of crap. SO, during the Reagan years, we support Iraq and the Soviets supported Iran. We train Bin Laden's ilk in Afghanistan. Now years later we are dealing with the consequences.

    India is pissed at us for supporting Pakistan. China is laughing at the west as they just sit back and slowly build into a super power. They don't focus on the short term, near future. They just slowly focus, or plot, on decades down the road. Ever wonder why China has existed for so long?

    On another related rant. If I see one more blind, cool aid drinking, "I'm proud to be an american" song battle cry rallying jackass. I wanna kick their head so far down their body their be breathing farts. Same goes for the Cindy Sheehan crowd as well. Both are the extremes. Meet in the middle, fire the bastards in DC, put people in that aren't corrupted by megalomania, greed, and/or stupidity. AND who will do what is right for our country, Bingo. We all are good to go.



    "The first gulf war was about oil" George H. Bush (daddy bush) Exact quote, source, the DVD "Fahrenhype 9/11". Wanna bet that the current Iraq war is about oil also.
  • Nanook18, on 10/30/2007, -9/+3Wow. I thought there were some actual smart people here. You ACTUALLY believe a country who also says that the Holocaust never happened and that there are no gays in their country. This is, quite possibly, the most hands-down stupidest article I've ever seen here.
    • llTheLotusll, on 10/30/2007, -0/+5Its funny to me how you blame a whole country for what one man says. I don't believe what President Bush says means I believe that too. If Bush said the same thing does that mean Americans don't believe the holocaust happened? No it means Bush doesn't believe it happened while the rest (well most I can't speak for them) do. I wouldn't be making comments like "I thought there were some actual smart people here" when you make a reply like that.
    • CannedMango, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3Two points:

      First, The last time I listened to a country, I was high on mushrooms, but I swear it was talking to me.
      Second, Ad Hominem is getting soooo passe. Learn to think.
    • Xill, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1Gosh moron, that's not what he said at all. It was twisted by the media.
  • DirtyBurger, on 10/29/2007, -2/+4I love how all the comments referring to the United States' historical mistakes are being dugg down. America, ***** YEAH!
  • tdelet, on 10/30/2007, -0/+17One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
  • amneosis, on 10/30/2007, -5/+3Iran are SO The Priate Bay of international politics.
  • Impetus, on 10/31/2007, -7/+3And you guys trust Iran as a credible source of information because?
    • DirtyBurger, on 10/31/2007, -1/+8And we trust America as a credible source of information because....?
    • GabrielS, on 10/31/2007, -7/+2It passes the "not Bush" test. I think these Diggers would take Stalin as his word.
      • Frei, on 10/30/2007, -0/+7I think he was just pointing out the irony that Bushies tend to dismiss the credibility of others while having none themselves.
    • Xill, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2We'll see the documents and then judge for ourselves. Why pre-concieved racism? There is many admission of False flag terrorism from the US. Maybe they're just talking about Operation Northwood.
  • arsalan, on 10/29/2007, -0/+5this is funny, US added Iran's national army (sepahe pasdaran) to the terrorist list couple of days ago, Iran comes up with documents that US is backing terrorists. US gives Iran more sanctions, Iran ***** around with oil by moving from dollars to euro. i guess this is what politics mean now a days...
  • coffee200am, on 10/29/2007, -0/+4Yeah ...OK...But the real question is....Who's terrorists are better? Ours or theirs?
  • anarchytv, on 10/30/2007, -0/+15The U.S. government has always backed terrorism. Just take a look at CIA history, its rife with it. In fact, one guy did a whole huge bloody website on it... which gets taken down and goes back up, but you can always find copies of it again with a google search for "american state terrorism"
    http://www.google.com/search?q=american+state+terr ...
    • bobbybobington, on 10/30/2007, -1/+1how about some more objective sources. Sure both countries support what could be called terrorists, but situations get complicated. Especially when both leaders are essentially incompetent. The pbs documentary "showdown with Iran" summarizes it quite well.
  • govsucks, on 10/30/2007, -6/+1You laugh at these people when their leader says there are no gays in the nation, yet you believe them when they say we are sponsoring terrorists. Well, at least I can come on Digg nowadays and get a good laugh. I swear, Hitler has proof that the Jews are trying to conquer Europe.
  • anarchytv, on 10/30/2007, -0/+4http://www.google.com/search?q=american+state+terr ...
  • saigumi, on 10/31/2007, -4/+2Hahahaha... ok, Iran... Most of the middle east considers Isreal to be terrorists, so you got us there. Too bad your definition of "terrorist" sucks.
    • OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3ahem, how is israel not a terrorist state? how about you give me a neutral and objective definition and I'll show you how israel fits it
  • Grumps, on 11/01/2007, -1/+2Should we go for war on terror now (attack our government)? How are we suppose to kill all the terrorist when we're funding them?
  • solid12345, on 10/29/2007, -1/+1I want documents by Iran that proves we are indeed "The Great Satan".
  • AndruC, on 10/29/2007, -1/+2Pleeeeease release these documents. The world needs to see this.
  • OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 10/30/2007, -0/+1the point is NOT whether Iran's claims are true, the point is that OUR claims about IRAN are about AS RELIABLE. we would be as justified invading iran as they would invading us..
  • iraq, on 10/30/2007, -1/+3Hilarious, everyone is focused on a bunch of documents that show links to funding terrorist groups in the middle east, yet no one is pointing to the obvious. Our ***** president is involved in terrorism on a daily basis. He scares the ***** out of Americans to keep them passive and docile, then does whatever the hell he wants when it comes to domestic and foreign policy. The president is a tyrant and he uses terrorist tactics to stay above the law and the threat of being labeled insane makes it impossible for anyone to organize and mobilize in serious protest.
  • ZenMojo, on 10/30/2007, -0/+3People are looking AROUND the issue instead of at it. The United States militarily supports the PJAK, which is a Kurdist "terrorist" group that spun off from the PKK and is attacking Iran instead of Turkey.
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