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- FlirtyGirl, on 06/28/2009, -2/+34Nico's coverage continues to be more comprehensive then any other single news source. Most of the other news sites seem to be relegating their Iran coverage to side bar snippets. I appreciate the extensive and detailed information Nico is making available to those of us who think the crisis in Iran warrants and deserves major coverage due to the implications of how what happens in Iran post election is important from both a human rights standpoint as well as that it may very well change the course of relations not only in the Middle East but worldwide.
- puppyoneb, on 06/29/2009, -0/+17You have to respect people risking their lives to make sure the truth reaches people like this. I would be scared as hell filming video, taking pictures, or anything else like that in Iran right now.
- traldan, on 06/28/2009, -4/+19Great coverage as always.
- Loki101, on 06/29/2009, -0/+14Good to see this back on the front page after all that MJ operetta.
- anotherjack, on 06/29/2009, -0/+11As long as the protesters can be portrayed by the Iranian media as western agitators, the revolution will fail. These people consider themselves to be loyal citizens of Iran, correcting a flawed system. But the Basij and the government do not consider them to be citizens - they feel no remorse in murdering them outright, because they are "outsiders" - young western-influenced agitators in t-shirts and Nikes. This difference of viewpoint gets a lot of people murdered, as the "outsiders" are increasingly identified and picked off.
Rather than allow themselves to be identified as outsiders, the protesters of Iran must clearly and unswervingly communicate that they are fighting as citizens, for their own culture, not agitating as outsiders or destroyers of the culture. When the people share a common identity, it is almost impossible to commit atrocity. As it is now, it is the Muslim burka versus the Western t-shirt, and so, the t-shirts will lose.
If I was advising the movement, I would say - "Let this not be traditional Muslims versus the misbehaving young people, let the people see that these are not idolatrous westerners, but patriotic Iranians fighting a wrong against all Iranians." I would tell the women to take up prayer, don chadorss and even burkas, but lead the way in every demonstration. Muslims are supposed to protect women, believe it or not, and this is very important to them. If they see the most defenseless ones leading the charge, they will understand that it is an ideological battle, not rioting. In an incident linked on this article, a woman in a chador uses this to good effect. Cognitive dissonance of the sort I have described prevents her from getting the beat-down despite provocation. from the LA Times:
"A female protester, covered completely by a black chador, taunted some of the police.
"Who are you?" she demanded, according to the witness. "Are you Muslims?"
Dumbfounded security officials stood and watched, the witness said."
If the protesters hold this line firmly, presenting themselves as patriots and fellow believers, they may recruit people to their cause from even the most religious and conservative groups. Many more people in Iran need to become sympathetic in order for this to gain momentum needed to cause change. - malex, on 06/29/2009, -0/+9That doesn't actually mean they're wrong or misleading.
If you find something biased about this particular article, by all means speak up. If you're trying to dismiss it just because you don't like the source, you're committing a logical fallacy. - herbiehancock00, on 06/29/2009, -1/+9The Iranian uprising hype had died down a little bit in the media coverage. I hope the Iranians are still fighting strong for justice.
- Drone13, on 06/28/2009, -4/+11The definitive source of information on Iranian uprising, for Iranians and non-Iranians alike.
- Pegah1979, on 06/28/2009, -4/+11Nico, you have done an amazing job in covering the Iran news. Your efforts will always be remembered, and know that you are a big contributor to the green movement. I hope you get rewarded.
- inactive, on 06/29/2009, -0/+6If this falls out of the conscientiousness of the world community, Iranians will get mowed down. Keep pressing their cause folks!!!
- malex, on 06/29/2009, -1/+6So you don't think anyone in the world can accomplish anything unless Team America sweeps down and saves the ***** day?
There's no way to guess how it's going to turn out, but the last thing the opposition needs is (overt) Western interference. This is the Iranian people's fight. - scyphozoa, on 06/29/2009, -1/+6this revolution will ripple and pulsate, it will not end until the facade is replaced with true democracy!
- jjason1985, on 06/29/2009, -0/+4Truth has a liberal bias
- Loki101, on 06/29/2009, -0/+4Considering that twittering, blogging and demonstrating already carry harsh penalties, I get the feeling you don't really know what "courage" really means.
You Americans... you're so used to your freedoms. Some of you don't realize just how much balls it takes to post a dissident message on a public site or to take to the street with little more than a flag and a pair of cojones larger than anything George Whatever Bush ever had against armed thugs who kill at random.
If anything, a peaceful uprising takes more personal courage than simply lashing out in violence and rage. You're so wrapped up in your legendary war of independence that you forget the years that it took for things to hit a breaking point in the 13 colonies. I dare you to stand in front of a goddamn tank with nothing but a briefcase. - kelstock, on 06/29/2009, -0/+3also check out iran.whyweprotest.net - there's a fair bit of up to date info there.
- utopiannative, on 06/29/2009, -1/+4Regardless of the validity of the election.... Comments about CIA and Neocon psyops are beyond ignorant and dangerous
This all started with Iranians protesting, it took a while for the mainstream American media to even catch on to the story. For those of us who have been following this election for months, these comments are ignorant and imply that this story is even about America, which insults the millions of Iranians presently protesting and the many that have died there for a cause they perceive as just.
I will agree American media is worthless; complacent and sugar-coated yes, but not controlled. - joshstone100, on 06/29/2009, -1/+3In Iran they riot at a fixed election
In America, we play our xboxes. - lifeasariver, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2Actually, your reply is a bit misplaced as I emigrated to the US from a former communist country where I did take part in a revolution much more violent than what's happening in Iran and where tanks literally were rolling over us. I did see people shot by machine guns and snipers, I was shot at, I had friends killed. The question is, did you? Blogging and twittering may be "courage" when faced with harsh penalties, my point is that those are not and never will be a *revolution*. It may make you feel like a hero though. But I still like your post. Nothing wrong with it or untrue, just, as I said, misplaced.
- Loki101, on 06/30/2009, -1/+3I've noticed a trend that a lot of those talking down the Iranian uprising are right-wingnuts/conspiracy theorists (and I mean REALLY right wingnut of the kind that camps out in the hills with a small arsenal awaiting the inevitable takeover by the world government).
I guess they can't wrap their little minds around the fact that others are doing more for freedom than they ever did with their loony BEWARE CIA MIND PROBES. Do I smell a hint of cowardly jealousy?
Of course, there's the other version - a.k.a Basij bots, but none on this thread. - malex, on 06/29/2009, -0/+2Question, UR... have you ever actually _been_ to Tehran?
- shylove, on 06/29/2009, -0/+2There is little democratic about an election if some other country plows million of dollars into publicly declared efforts for regime change and defines them as an axis of evil we want to destabilize. When a counry and its intelligence agencies are operating in a country in that way it is impossible to tell which things are real and which have been manipulated and what things are disinformation like the incubators in Kuwait that a PR firm cooked up
- katahar, on 06/29/2009, -0/+2FIGHT THE POWER!
- Loubee, on 06/28/2009, -3/+5Thank you Nico--you are worth a hundred Milbanks & Kurz's
- Azsen, on 06/29/2009, -0/+2The cities must be evacuated.
- tech42er, on 06/29/2009, -0/+2"The Iranian uprising hype had died down a little bit in the media coverage."
Yeah, after the protests stopped because people were being massacred. - lifeasariver, on 06/29/2009, -2/+3Iran is not uprising. They are busy twittering (this crap has become a verb now...). Too much time has passed, they lost. They should go back to being brainwashed by their mullahs and wait a generation or two before trying again. Unless a war breaks out sooner and then we'll see what comes out of it. If you want your freedom, drop the ***** cell phone and pick up arms. Forget about blogging and twittering - we will never care more than you should and we will not do anything more than wear wristbands. Fight and be ready to ***** die if you want to be free.
- abeewon, on 06/29/2009, -2/+3and people argue against the validity of the press.
- mfirebrand1, on 07/03/2009, -0/+1We must keep pressing their cause. We now have to pray harder and work harder because people are being tortured and murdered with no remorse.
- MrColdheart, on 06/29/2009, -0/+1These people are up against solders with riot gear and weapons all in the name of democracy.
- inactive, on 06/29/2009, -5/+6There is very little evidence this election was rigged. This is looking like a physcops carried out by the US government and the controlled US news media. Why would the Mullahs fix an election? They can determine who is on the ballot, if they don't like someone, they can just keep them off the ballot. While there is very little evidence that this election was rigged, there is a lot of evidence of neocon involvement in attempting to destabilize the Iranian government through the US news media, which is nothing more than a propaganda arm for the government. http://vdare.com/roberts/090621_iran.htm
- JROXZ, on 06/29/2009, -0/+1Of course it doesn't help that Michael Jackson, RIP, coverage is completely swamping every other event.
- ProfessorLX, on 06/29/2009, -0/+1im sure the ayatollah would LOVE to give Nico a big reward
- nudiraf, on 06/29/2009, -0/+1facebook blocks that link from showing up on the main news feed!!!
- saigumi, on 06/29/2009, -0/+1Actually, that is the current accusations from Iran's gov't.
Do you really think the CIA killed Neda? - Loki101, on 06/29/2009, -2/+2I guess "evidence" depends on what you want to believe.
- atexisthatbest, on 06/29/2009, -2/+2No. But clearly, this is what the CIA does... create opposition from within, set the tone, get everyone on your side, then when the world does invade Iran it will be justified
- joshstone100, on 06/29/2009, -1/+1Somebody's done their homework.
http://tinyurl.com/ytjoez http://tinyurl.com/cwjzt - URnotheonly1, on 06/29/2009, -2/+1I will tell you how it is going to end. They have been wiping out the movement all week. They know that nobody is going to do *****. All the protest did was bring the movement out into the open and now they are killing it. We just lost the democratic movement in Iran either by it being wiped out, or they will hate the US & the west for not helping. We just made the mullahs stronger.
- abeewon, on 06/29/2009, -1/+0not going to work here and ***** you for making type in a captcha
- tonsiljuggler, on 06/30/2009, -1/+0Wake me up when it's millions getting on the streets all over Iran.
Tehran is hardly Iran. Thousands hardly represent the people of Iran.
Good try though. See if Ahmedinejad cares. He doesn't and so do the rest of the 80 MILLION Iranians.
Good luck with your one men band playing the flute for the Iranian revolution on the other side of the mountain where they probably won't here you. - untukdaftar, on 06/29/2009, -1/+0I hope they can survive
http://mancinggembira.blogspot.com - DrVic, on 06/29/2009, -6/+1Whoah! what happened in Iran?
- atexisthatbest, on 06/29/2009, -7/+2And of course the CIA has NOTHING to do with this.....
- jmones, on 06/29/2009, -7/+2***** YEAH!!! SHUT THAT ***** DOWN!!!
- JazzCatDRP, on 06/29/2009, -7/+2Keep up wit yo bad selves, Iranians.
- WorfoSAUR, on 06/29/2009, -7/+2Huffington Post is to the left as Fox News is to the Right.
- T8erT0T, on 06/29/2009, -10/+4Iranica! ***** Yeah! Protesting again to save the ***** dayyaaayy!
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