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- ZenMojo, on 11/05/2007, -23/+266Considering the CIA overthrew its democratically elected government and helped Iraq lay waste to the country with arms sales and intelligence, well, yes, the CIA is a terrorist organization.
"It isn't known yet Iran's position on the storming of another country's embassy, taking foreign diplomats hostage, threatening nuclear annihilation and advocating extermination of particular religious groups. A good guess would be that no statements on these activites are planned."
LOL, that's funny. The US Army has done all but one of these things in the last year.... - Napoleone, on 10/10/2007, -16/+207Partial list of terrorist activities perpetrated by the CIA:
1. Overthrow of the democratically elected government of Chile in 1973 and instillation of the military dictator Augusto Pinochet.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/nsaebb ...
2. Overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953 and instillation of "the Shah"; a dictator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
3. Overthrow of the democratically elected government of Guatemala in 1954 and the instillation of military rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_ ...
4. Overthrow of the democratically elected government of Brazil in 1964 and the instillation of military rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Brazilian_coup_d ...
5. Iran-Contra: CIA illegally sells weapons to Iran; funnels profits to Contras.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_contra
6. Assisted Dictator/Drug Overlord Manuel Noriega.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_noriega - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -14/+110The C.I.A has terrorized more people then ANY other terror group out there. Don’t believe me, ask someone from a 3rd world country.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -13/+101No doubt about it. They leave the competition in the dust.
- Tangaroa, on 10/10/2007, -5/+88If the linked blogger wasn't a moron, this might be a diggable story. Iran's parliament is not taking its cue from "the american left" but from the United States Congress which recently passed a law declaring the Iranian army to be a terrorist organization. The historical facts that the CIA has committed acts of terrorism in the past are not automatically deniable just because the American left is aware of them.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+73US took five Iranian diplomats hostage a while ago, no charges as of yet, no access to lawyer, etc. Iraqi government insists that they were in Iraq by invitation and were doing legitimate diplomatic business.
Couple of weeks ago another diplomat (this time in Kurdistan of Iraq) was detained, similar to last time the Iraqi government dismissed all allegations that US army made but can't do anything about it.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0924/p99s01-duts.htm ...
And btw, these are only two examples, in one country, in a short time. - Flytrap, on 11/05/2007, -9/+57The US is the only country in the world that goes around assassinating (or planning to assassinate) national or tribal leaders of other countries (through its CIA terrorist organisation) as a so called preemptive measure. The US reserves the ability and the right to preemptively invaded other nations, assassinate foreigners, etc without any due course for the law, presentation of evidence in a court of law, etc. for itself only - any other country (save for Israel) doing the same would be branded a supporter of terrorism or a terrorist country.
US military, covert and non-military actions are directly or indirectly (e.g. via sabotaging peasant farmer's food stocks to prevent them from coming into the hands of the "enemy") responsible for more global civilian deaths in the world than any other single country, since the Korean war. The only cause of civilian deaths surpassing US unilateral action are natural disasters and the effects of US and EU farm subsidies on the worlds peasant farmers and food security on the most impoverished countries in the world.
Although we are all numbed to it and accustomed to the term, human rights watchers will remember the first time the phrase "collateral damage" came to our vocabulary from US military briefings. To this day, the US government refuses to quantify the human cost (in lives) of so called collateral damage, but insists that collateral damage should be an expected by product of US military action around the world, and nobody should be allowed to ever hold it [the US] to account for the consequences. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+55Good post dude, some people aren't aware of the nasty things the us govt. has been doing.
- digsig, on 10/10/2007, -5/+50What not many ppl in the States know is CIA's role in staging a coup and overthrowing the legit government of Greece back in 1968.
http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Takism5.htm
Only in 1999 did Clinton in a historic visit to Greece (they are rare because anti-american sentiment runs high, hey who can blame us) say : "I'm sorry about it".
That was in the past you might say. Well, not exactly. Recently, evidence came to light proving CIA involvement in the abduction of Pakistani citizens from Greece to Guantanamo. And Greece is not the exception either. This has been happening for years in all European countries : http://web.amnesty.org/pages/stoptorture-rendition ... .
I, mean if abducting ppl and torturing them isn't terrorism i don't know what is. - SuperMoses, on 10/10/2007, -4/+40http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_S ... - US violating internatonal law by supporting contra guerillas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba - First legally elected Prime Minister of Congo. Ten weeks later the US sponsor a coup to remove him.
There is more :( - watoowatooir, on 10/10/2007, -5/+39Add support for Taliban and Bin Laden in Afghanistan before 911
And supporting Saddam Husain
bringing the power to both - shabumike, on 10/10/2007, -11/+42In the early 70's they helped take down the democratically elected Australian government which didn't support the Vietnam war.
- jdubdub, on 10/10/2007, -8/+36So true. I can just imagine this being the normal world view in 50 years once the US has collapsed deep into its unrecoverable depression.
- arsalan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+33"So I guess you're saying the Iraq-Iran War was a CIA plot?" yes, it actually was. Iran-Iraq war happened after Iran's Shah left and since Iran had a lot of weapons given to by US, US aka CIA wanted to clear all those out of the country, therefore, they came up with the brightest idea of "lets attack Iran by using our little bitch, Saddam"
- quiznos, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31direct link to AP article http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070929/D8RV6ST00 ...
- RetardoCrisp, on 10/10/2007, -6/+32HAHA Good for them! They have nothing to lose and it is nice to see that they give the US govt a taste of their own medicine.
- bovox, on 10/10/2007, -5/+31They hate us because we meddle in their affairs and piss in their backyard. Why do we do this? Because we want to ensure a stable, steady, and cheap source of energy for us and our allies so that our economies can continue to flourish. How do we do this? We do this by propping up and supporting unelected, undemocratic monarch regimes that oppress their citizen's freedoms.
All of this is true and I do not understand why people accept the simplistic, idiotic, and borderline retarded explanation that "they hate us because of our freedom." - spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29ask harry truman what he thinks of the CIA
Mr truman how do you feel about the CIA?
Harry Truman: I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo. - digsig, on 10/10/2007, -5/+28Ehhh, they did worse. They BOMBED another country's embassy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Bombing_of_the_C ...
- spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -7/+30You can add Venezuela/Chavez to the list most likely.
- ginn52, on 10/10/2007, -9/+31I'm posting from a secret CIA prison!
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23Not only does the US via the CIA fund terrorist operations all over the world, but we also import narcotics into our country using DEA and CIA operatives, and think nothing of ruining the lives of those involved. Here's a great interview with Beau Abbott, an ex-pilot for the DEA who flew missions throughout South America:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=U.S.+G ... - siszam, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24Read The Chavez Code and see Americas own documents regarding it's terrorists activity and spending. Iran is slow. Everyone else has known the CIA is a terrorist organization for a looooooooooooooooong time.
- futureinmind, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21True they did attempt a coup in 2002.
- abid786, on 10/10/2007, -3/+22http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/artic ...
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21It's a publically funded body with no public oversight...
The Sun is Hot, Water is Wet and absolute power corrupts absolutely. - oldfemme, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19and they are totally right... Back in 1953, Prime Minister Mossadegh became enormously popular in Iran by nationalizing the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later British Petroleum, BP) which controlled the country's oil reserves. In response, Britain embargoed Iranian oil and began plotting to depose Mossadegh. Members of the British Intelligence Service invited the United States to join them, convincing U.S. President Eisenhower that Mossadegh was reliant on the Tudeh (Communist) Party to stay in power. In 1953, President Eisenhower authorized Operation Ajax, and the CIA took the lead in overthrowing Mossadegh and supporting a U.S.-friendly monarch; and for which the U.S. Government apologized in 2000.
It is just like "yankee go home" heard all around latin america. It is a phrase used to express anger at American presence in a foreign land. Originally applying to American imperialism, the phrase has come to be used generically as a means of expressing Anti-American sentiment. - siszam, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20That's what I think every time Bush opens his mouth and talks trash about "evil dictators".
- dafragsta, on 10/10/2007, -7/+24"With it's economy in shambles..."
Let the country with a dollar worth more than a Canadian dollar cast the first stone... not so fast United States. - cyberscape2, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20Not disagreeing that the US does such things, but it's hardly the only country to do so. Still... it's very unfortunate.
- objectcode, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Iran has every right calling the CIA terrorist. too bad we can't make peace with Iran
- Napoleone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17"Seriously dude do you really think that the CIA is an organization that acts alone? Every move they make is approved by some part of the government. You can't call them terrorists if you don't agree that the US as a whole is a terrorist organization."
Are you so naive that you believe the WHOLE government acts as a single unit? There are hundreds of departments in the Pentagon, and many of them never even interact directly; in some instances interacting never. Should I condemn NASA because FEMA is utterly incompetent and subversive of the Constitution? Just because a president may support an illegal act perpetrated by the CIA does not make the act OK under the law. An illegal act is illegal regardless of who and how much support it garners. And you're trying to justify the criminality of one institution with that of another. But it just doesn't work like that.
That you called me a "communist", reflects only that you're an ideologue who finds truth in feelings rather than in facts. And that you're trying to educate me on history when you don't even know that of your own government, is just laughable.
Go pick up a book and give your Tom Clancy video games a rest. - tenrec, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18How did the Iranian parliament forget Blackwater USA?
- PhilMoskowitz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Carter fired 800 of those scumbags and Reagan of course, rehired them and they committed Iran Contra. You should really read the history of the CIA, it's frightening. They sure as hell aren't out fighting for the safety of the United States.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Its not but its hypocritical in criticizing other nations that do the same.
- heystoopid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14How soon we forget one democratically elected leader in Chile called Salvador Allende in 1973 !
Or the time they had their collective asses handed back to them on a plate by mobs of irate poorly educated peasants in a country called Nicaragua in the eighties, when they attempted with out much success to reinstall the very evil Somoza family back in Managua along with a number of known drug runners , after the local peasants got tired of their habit of stealing ninety nine cents in the dollar routine !
Perhaps , you should also ask as to why the CIA is shielding a non US citizen Cuban , wanted in connection to a terrorist incident involving the bombing of a passenger plane too ? - digsig, on 10/11/2007, -0/+14"Does the CIA ever kill innocents to instill fear and further a political/religious agenda?"
Yes. - Lagstorm, on 11/05/2007, -7/+20Fly we dropped 2 bombs on Japan and killed millions. The generations of Japanese to come will feel that day for a very long. Who are terror mongers? It is us people. Wake up!
- vertinox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
"The idea of overthrowing Mossadegh was conceived by the British who asked U.S. President Harry Truman for assistance[citation needed]. He refused. The British raised the idea again to Dwight D. Eisenhower who became president in 1953. The new administration agreed to participate in overthrowing the elected administration.[5]"
See, they don't just hate us because we have secular freedoms... They hate us because we installed a hated dictator. - PhilMoskowitz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13You're going to be dugg down because you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Read up on the Banana Wars and maybe you'll stop being a pie eyed dupe. You're unamerican for not taking responsibility enough to know what your own country is up to. Your stupidity is treasonous.
- mondoreb, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17I'm scared of the brain-eating microbes.
- bitcloud, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Thats actually not far from the truth. I wish it wasn't...
- zephc, on 10/10/2007, -4/+16Tit for tat, bitches.
- GreekMacedonian, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12You forgot overthrowing the democratically elected Greek government in 1967, then making the Greek dictators withdraw the 100,000 Greek soldiers who were protecting the island of Cyprus (where Greeks made up 82% of the population), and culminating in helping Turkey invade the island, ethnically cleansing 200,000 Greek Cypriots, and bringing in 160,000 Turkish settlers in violation of the Geneva Conventions. To this day Turkey still occupies 37% of Cyprus (an EU country) yet Turkey still thinks they can join the EU!
- ginn52, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14No moron! It's 2007... The Patriotic Act snared me!
- raisputin3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12ARRRRGH! BLOGSPAM!!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/29/iran.par ... - digsig, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Actually, that's not the only US "intervention" in Greece. Recent history of Greece in short. After WW2 a civil war broke out in Greece between loyalists to the government which was formed by politicians who returned from exile, and the communists who had formed the resistance to the Nazi and Italian occupying forces. The civil war ended with the victory of the British and US supported government. Many communists fled to communist countries (Bulgaria, USSR, East Germany), but most stayed. This spawned an era of US puppet governments (the US ambassador actually ran the country) until the late 50's. The communist party was dissolved and it's members were arrested, jailed and executed. In every election there was broad vote rigging and violence (many citizens were practically not allowed to vote). In 1964 a party called United Middle won the elections by a landslide (52%, second party had 35%), and formed a government, which tried to distance Greece from the US and take a more neutral stance during the cold war. The prime minister came into conflict with the king (another pawn of the British) and was forced to resign. The king ordered then several parliament representatives to form a new government. Despite efforts of the CIA to buy the vote of the leading party's representatives only few of them actually voted in confidence of the governments that were proposed. As soon as a government was formed, it called for elections. But, before elections took place, in the 21st of April, 1967, a number of officers of the Greek Army staged a coup (actually a NATO plan, called "Prometheus") to "protect the country of imminent communist danger". The military regime that followed was brutal, maiming all opposition, arresting, exiling and executing political prisoners. It eventually led to national tragedy of Cyprus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_C ... ) , after which it collapsed.
- darkspire, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13While I would agree with you that the point was missed as far as the UN/world stage goes, the CIA would certainly be considered a terrorist organization under our own terms if they were not a US government agency. Which certainly begs the question: why do we have a veto when we clearly commit actions equally as evil as those we condemn?
- bovox, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Actually, this is my country. I'm a better citizen, a better taxpayer, and a better American. I would rather fix the system that allows such atrocities to happen. The first step would be to revoke the citizenships of people like George Bush, Dick Cheney, and yourself. Of course, this is just fanciful thinking, but if anyone here is betraying the ideals of America, it would be people who think like you.
- DiggSystemAdmin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Read "Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA" by Tim Weiner, and you realize the CIA is messed up.
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-History-Tim-Wei ... -
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