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- hellengineer, on 07/20/2009, -2/+582this is total insanity.
- dezweber, on 07/20/2009, -16/+435I make a point to be understanding of cultural differences, but you're right. I cannot imagine a religion that justifies this treatment of young women.
- inactive, on 07/20/2009, -6/+379Well luckily our media covered the Micheal Jackson tragedy instead and by the sounds of it everything worked out in Iran.
- EndAntiSemitism, on 07/20/2009, -23/+367FTA:
""Because," he went on, "I could tell that the girls were more afraid of their 'wedding' night than of the execution that awaited them in the morning. And they would always fight back, so we would have to put sleeping pills in their food. By morning the girls would have an empty expression; it seemed like they were ready or wanted to die.
"I remember hearing them cry and scream after [the rape] was over," he said. "I will never forget how this one girl clawed at her own face and neck with her finger nails afterwards. She had deep scratches all over her."
This is absolutely disgusting and literally sickening. And to think these girls were just protesting a crooked election under a religious dictatorship.
A sad reminder that some countries still haven't left the middle ages. - brinkofjon, on 07/20/2009, -0/+301"While a man is deemed responsible for his own actions at 13, for a woman it is 9"
The whole article was appalling, but I had no idea they held their children accountable so young - toggaf, on 07/20/2009, -6/+199You stay classy, Iran.
- bionh, on 07/20/2009, -5/+181And people wonder why Iran is on the verge of revolution?
- unit001, on 07/20/2009, -58/+216Raped and executed for protesting? Really takes the wind out of the sails for American protesters who say our riot police are too draconian...
- roodammy44, on 07/20/2009, -13/+149I'm pretty sure this isn't what Muhammad was thinking when he wrote sharia law.
***** up to the extreme.
Just shows that religion doesn't count for anything when people want to do bad things, same all over the world. - serif69, on 07/20/2009, -4/+138I don't think I've ever been so offended and disgusted in my life. I'm generally a calm person, but it would drive me to violence were I to witness such a thing.
- Doc123, on 07/20/2009, -6/+123The reason they don't execute virgins is because virgins automatically go to heaven, so in order to ensure that they go to hell instead, they are first raped.
http://www.aljadid.com/reviews/0942tarabishi.html - swordedge, on 07/20/2009, -7/+109Except, they don't deem a man responsible for his own actions. A man can not possibly commit rape in Iran. The whole idea that even if a nubile gorgeous 13 year old naked young girl is dancing in front of me begging for it, I am expected to keep it in my pants is a completely foreign concept in that country. And if I did do her, the idea that I committed the crime and not her, would astound them.
- Po0py, on 07/20/2009, -9/+108This is true. The vast majority of Muslims are decent people who want peace and to live in harmony with others. But when you read ***** like that you are left thinking: just how many Iranians think those horrific crimes are ok? Sometimes it just seems as if there is a horrific amount of people out there who do beleive this is the right way to behave.
Raping a woman because you are not allowed to execute a virgin.
Are you ***** kidding me? - Ephilation, on 07/20/2009, -16/+105Not all Muslims think that their religion justifies this kind of treatment.
- Hillsfar, on 07/20/2009, -2/+90And it's only rape if FOUR witnesses see it. And women only count has half a man in legal testimony.
- deweyhewson, on 07/20/2009, -18/+103Our riot police ARE too draconian. Iran is surely far worse, but that doesn't excuse infringement of freedoms in our own country.
- matu4251, on 07/20/2009, -1/+85No question that the article is sickening but the part rape part had nothing to do with the protests that took place in june after the election. It was earlier in his life (when he was 18). He got arrested during the election for releasing some young protesters.
- m3th0dm4n, on 07/20/2009, -7/+88A taste of state-supported religion.
- LacY, on 07/21/2009, -1/+79For some reason, that makes a really horrible action even worse to me. It's bad enough that they do it, but to have thought out "oh *****--if we execute this girl, she'll go to heaven. That'd be totally uncool... I know, lets rape her first--then she gets to spend her last night living through hell... before going to hell!" -- that's just a deeper level of twisted.
- Pxtl, on 07/20/2009, -11/+84You know, as much as Muhammed gets a bad rap, I'm fairly certain that, if he made a law against executing a virgin... this was not what he had in farking mind!
- Y0tsuya, on 07/20/2009, -2/+72I think he was describing an earlier time, when Khomeini was still alive.
- gobbleplex, on 07/20/2009, -13/+81Mmhmm. So because the guy next to you has a ***** sandwich that is full of nails, that really takes the wind out of your sails when you complain about having a ***** sandwich without nails. Clearly you should be grateful to have a ***** sandwich at all.
- Ninh, on 07/20/2009, -5/+63Please donate coal so these ***** will have a warm place in hell.
- inactive, on 07/20/2009, -25/+82Yeah I'm sure they're all warm fuzzy teddy bears and since ***** is bad in Iran I'll never question our police again. /s
- JoeHague, on 07/20/2009, -9/+61That's ***** sick- amongst the worst things I've ever heard.
Something inside me though is skeptical of the Jerusalem Post's reporting on Iran/ - MaddieCakes, on 07/20/2009, -2/+50Actually, I don't think anyone's really wondering why.
- barc0001, on 07/20/2009, -9/+56Yeah, well, I don't think Jesus would condone shooting doctors with sniper rifles either, but you don't see that stopping some "Christians" from doing that.
And I imagine Jesus would have thought even less of the Crusades.
It's not the religion at the core of the problem, it's the sick ***** using it as a justification for their barbarism. - inactive, on 07/21/2009, -2/+47So 8 women would have to witness it? Sweet Christ in a wheelbarrow.
- IrishJoe, on 07/20/2009, -8/+49This is truly disgusting. Utterly disgusting. I have no other words for it. I hope to God that this isn't true, but I fear it is. I was physically ill from reading this and couldn't even finish it.
- rocknog, on 07/20/2009, -7/+48I don't know, I tend to be inclined to think that it's less about their religion and more about their culture. It's a culture that accepts that kind of *****. Religion doesn't make you act a certain way. Take, say, homophobia in the US. Often, religion is blamed on it. Certainly, religion is often used to justify it, but if you listen to the way homophobes talk about the wrongness of homosexuality, it's not because they're moved by God to feel that way - they're just bigots who use God as an excuse. No different than how the Bible was used to justify slavery in the 1800s.
I mean yes, I'm an atheist, and no, I'm no big fan of religion, but I think sometimes we get distracted by it to see the real problems here. If the Islamic world suddenly woke up tomorrow and converted to Christianity, I'm almost certain they would continue this kind of behavior using new justifications, because really, it's just the culture - they simply use religion as an excuse. - Qumahlin, on 07/20/2009, -2/+42"Raped and executed for protesting?"
No, read the article. No one was raped and executed for protesting. He was referring to his younger years and the only main thing he regretted. - EndAntiSemitism, on 07/20/2009, -10/+46No surprise. It is the same age that A'isha, Mohammed's first wife was, when he "consummated" his marriage with her
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Marriage_to_Muh ... - Qumahlin, on 07/20/2009, -2/+36Did anyone read the article? The whole thing with the girls has nothing to do with the protests....geezus.
It's still wrong, etc but don't make it out like this is what is happening to the protesters. - mollydog12, on 07/20/2009, -4/+36unfortunately the ruling mullahs and the instruments of the mulsim states do.
- Doc123, on 07/20/2009, -8/+38From 2002
A woman's rape is frequently the last act that precedes her execution. This is explained by the rule in Iranian political prisons that the sentence of execution cannot be carried out if the woman is a virgin. Since there is a theological belief that if a woman dies a virgin she will go to heaven, the politically active virgin is forced to "marry" before her execution and thus to insure she will go to hell. She is forced to "marry" the hangman who will carry out her execution.
http://www.aljadid.com/reviews/0942tarabishi.html - exgiexpcv, on 07/20/2009, -6/+36Wow, and I just watched "Persepolis" last night. Great movie, horrifying practice. What is it about religion that emboldens people to commit the most despicable acts? The Vatican excommunicates a 9 year-old girl for having an abortion after being repeatedly raped by her stepfather, and the mullahs arrange for young women to be raped so they can kill them for dissidence.
- rswelling, on 07/20/2009, -16/+46>Not all Muslims think that their religion justifies this kind of treatment.
Then please do something about it. It rightly sickens the rest of us. - Qumahlin, on 07/20/2009, -6/+36"I cannot imagine a religion that justifies this treatment of young women."
It's not the religion, its the people in charge. It's just like how people say the old testament was invalidated by the new testament when in reality its the whole "well ***** we better update before we look REALLY barbaric...but make sure we continue to leave everything vague" - dafragsta, on 07/20/2009, -6/+35Barbarism for barbarism. Two wrongs don't make a right. That's three lefts.
- canadabluesfan, on 07/20/2009, -4/+32there are hundreds of thousands of muslims protesting the ***** in iran right now.
- SolubleFish, on 07/20/2009, -20/+47First, let me say how horrible that whole ordeal sounds.
Second, let me say I don't totally trust the source. I'm sure the Jerusalem Post doesn't have an agenda... just look at the banner above the article... "THE IRANIAN THREAT" - Wolfghost, on 07/20/2009, -8/+35Nope. My sails are full. You obviously never lived through the 60s in the US. Rape, forced sterilization, beatings, students shot, and list goes on.
- trendygamer, on 07/20/2009, -17/+44I'm sorry, but no. Things such as this are occurring disproportionately in Islamic and Middle Eastern cultures. Name me one Western nation founded on Judeo-Christian laws and philosophies that currently actively condones rape as a form of punishment, or prescribes the death penalty for homosexuality, or the death penalty for women who "commit adultery" as a result of being raped.
We really need to just STOP pretending there is a problem with "religion." There are, of course, issues with many different religions all over the globe. But to say that there isn't a disproportionate level of these types of stories coming out of Islamic nations is simply covering your eyes and ears to what is going on around you in the name of trying to appear politically correct. - tzvika613, on 07/20/2009, -2/+28It wasn't a matter of being able to fend for themselves at 13. It was a matter that they could be criminally liable for what they did, the theory being that by 13 a person is able to tell the difference between good and evil, and can not use youth as an excuse.
- mysmartypants, on 07/20/2009, -7/+32You do realize that Muhammed had a 9 year old wife?
In most places, that is considered rape......even back in the dark ages. - kheptril, on 07/20/2009, -2/+25Iran; if this is true, what an utterly sick, corrupt and perverted regime!
- deweyhewson, on 07/20/2009, -4/+27Unfortunately you can't build bombs that only kill the guilty.
- zoomaKabu, on 07/21/2009, -5/+26Yeah, one time, a long time ago some people did some really horrible stuff so nobody should point out or speak up against any horrible stuff done today. Perfect logic.
- KnightMareInc, on 07/20/2009, -21/+42the jerusalem post you say?
- inactive, on 07/21/2009, -6/+27They don't seem to condemn this ***** too often. Complacency is complicity.
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