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- h8f8kes, on 05/29/2009, -7/+28Control of the media is essential in controlling the masses.
- brynlb, on 05/29/2009, -12/+28That "opposition-aligned television station" blatantly aided and abetted the coup-plotters that overthrew the democratically-elected government in 2002. RCTV is lucky it is still allowed to broadcast at all. The press in Venezuela gets away with way more than the US media ever could.
And the US doesn't even have anything that could be termed an "opposition press." It's all the same corporate skullduggery. - techweenie, on 05/29/2009, -7/+22Pretty sure Rush could get 20X that number to march against press freedom, here.
- dissident0, on 05/29/2009, -10/+22This isn't a case of press freedom so much as a case of the press using the public airwaves to call for the violent overthrow of a democratically elected government and trying to get away with it. Just imagine if an American TV station like CBS called for the military overthrow of Barack Obama. Then imagine how long their public airwaves license would last. Here Chevez doesn't even revoke the license, but simply waits for it to expire. That's shows a lot more restraint than I bet most governments would have put in the same situation. Give me a break! This is just phony outrage promoted by the U.S. elite not liking the fact that Chavez is taking his country on independent course free from their imperial domination.
Venezuela and the Media: Fact and Fiction: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/01/160 ... - solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -6/+17And Americanoboy translates as
"i'm a spoiled liberal born to upper white middle-class parents and my college professor told me my whole life and background is something to be ashamed of but Caesar Chavez is going to bring equality to this evil capitalist world" - BlueStarr, on 05/29/2009, -3/+13hundreds out of 26,814,843...pfft!
- norman619, on 05/29/2009, -2/+12Yet the hollywood airheads think Chavez is a great man.
- inactive, on 05/29/2009, -5/+15With only a few hundred people protesting, sounds like it was on par with most local Anti-Tax Tea Parties.
- inactive, on 05/28/2009, -20/+30Populism and ignorance can raise tirans to power. Although this guy won the popular vote, there is little chance of Chavez leading a genuine democracy. He might replace Castro as the anti-yanqui voice of Latin America, not that I want that, if he stays as a dictator in the years to come.
- solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -2/+11Chavez only ran for election after his own coup attempt in the early 90s failed and got his ass thrown in prison for it.
Sounds alot like Hitler and the Beer Hall putsch failure to me. - solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -1/+9Hello, Chavez himself initiated a coup in the early 1990s
You lefties are all about overthrowing government and plotting revolution but when it is done in reverse to you suddenly have to blame the gringos and the CIA. - solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -2/+9Ah the Zionist entity, the standard ***** distraction for why your country is a festering banana republic.
- dissident0, on 05/29/2009, -1/+8The Revolution Will Not Be Televised:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545 ... - solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -3/+10How many poor villagers does the Chavez government have to bus into the cities and hand red flags to for their engineered rallies?
- CivicTV, on 08/14/2009, -0/+7http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_ ...
Oil. - bbear, on 05/29/2009, -4/+11Anyone interested in the coup and the role the banned TV station played should watch the documentary "The Revolution Will not be Televised". They had the coup leaders on TV for a sit down interview the day after the coup where they joked about dissolving the branches government and conspiracy to commit murder. It's all openly discussed in the interview. A TV license isn't a license to commit crime.
- edstate, on 05/29/2009, -1/+8Are you ***** HIGH?!
- solid12345, on 05/29/2009, -0/+6@Random
Let's see, the people who initiated the supposed coup got no jail time and was not punished, and why did Chavez's captors let him go for a triumphant red carpet return to power only 3 days later?
A REAL coup would have involved dropping his *****-eyed fatass into the Caribbean Sea. - emailowndme, on 05/29/2009, -0/+6google is that way ---->
- mulligas, on 05/29/2009, -11/+16How is Chavez a dictator? They have as much press freedom in Venezuela as they do in the U.S. The opposition tv station commited treason by supporting the 2002 coup. If they had done that in the U.S. the station would have been shut down immediately instead of after five years and the people running the station would have been put on trial for treason.
- RandomGorilla, on 05/29/2009, -0/+5This is news to me! And where is the proof he staged it?
- austroLogi, on 05/29/2009, -1/+6add -of-thousands and maybe then your numbers are right.
Theres something sick about someone thinking its ok to go take the productive means from someone else to use for their own purposes - relenga, on 05/29/2009, -1/+6How is Chavez a dictor, um, lets see:
- he jails and kills his opponents
- he is changing the countries laws so that he can stay in power
- he jails journalists that challenge him
- he nationalises industries and takes property from citizens
- he threatens to jail government officials that try to do their job if it conflicts with what he wants personally.
What else do you need? - inactive, on 05/29/2009, -1/+5So because we've done it before we should still do it now?
- arpad, on 05/29/2009, -2/+6Mercedes383 wrote:
"Chavez is preventing Venezuelan oil being sent to the US at fire sale prices with all the profits going to the elite."
You might want to check sources other then International Kos.
Venezuela's petroleum production started going down almost immediately after Chavez was elected. Not because of those mean, old "elites" but because, as is typical of all socialists, he diverted money from petroleum production development to buy off the votes of the poor. It's the economic equivalent of eating your seed corn. Your belly may be filled short-term but long-term you're just making starvation inevitable.
Of course once Chavez establishes his rule independent of the democratic process, his clear intent, he won't have to give a damn what the poor say. In that way he'll be like his idol, Fidel Castro, the defender of the downtrodden who makes sure that the supply of downtrodden never diminishes by stepping on the people himself. - govsucks, on 05/29/2009, -4/+8The need to be marching for freedom in general. Why is it wrong for society to tell someone they can't speak freely but right society to tell someone that they have no free choice?
- norman619, on 05/29/2009, -1/+5No *****. Those Latin Americans arent smart enough to do somethng like this on their own. My god the leftists in the US are so full of themselves and ignorant. We have to remember these are the same ignorant people who idolize Che. The man responsible for the murders of MANY innocent people for simply not agreeing with his views.
I guess it would be fair to point out most of those in Hollywood have a very valid exscuse for their ignorance. Most of them only have a high school education if that. - relenga, on 05/29/2009, -0/+3Unfortunatly, emailowndme, that makes absolutely no sense.
- swordedge, on 05/29/2009, -1/+4I guess they didn't get the memo, the press is not allowed to have an opinion. They can't be trusted to have the correct opinion so Chavez will issue the press their opinion. Not much different then the Soviet Union was.
- americanoboy, on 05/29/2009, -3/+6meanwhile thousands march in US to end occupation of iraq
- techweenie, on 05/29/2009, -2/+5We do have access to some reporting that's more accurate. But it comes from the BBC.
- norman619, on 05/29/2009, -1/+4anon:
Sorry but your pointing to the UK does not invalidate his argument at all. Care to try again? - maz2331, on 05/29/2009, -0/+3In Soviet Venezuela...
Nah, doesn't sound quite right. - alandil, on 05/29/2009, -2/+5Cut the ***** techweenie. Your comment has absolutely no ground to stand on and I find it completely insane that people have actually dugg you up.
- edstate, on 05/29/2009, -1/+4Where in the hell do you get your stats from?
- SirCharge, on 05/29/2009, -1/+4"They have as much press freedom in Venezuela as they do in the U.S."
The station is being threatened because it questioned Venezuela's president's response to a national disaster. If this happened in the US every station would have been shut down after Katrina.
The American media has on several occasions openly supported the downfall of an American leader (ie Nixon). Part of the American right to free speech is allowing the citizens of America to openly oppose the government in power. That right is not allowed in Venezuela. - arapro, on 05/29/2009, -2/+5Everyone that supports Chavez here can go and live in VZLA with him. Try it, I urge you !
Caracas is a pretty safe city, everything works, fantastic public transport. Great program on tv (only chavez's show). Pretty girls, cheap oil !
Its great, leave the comfort of your home, and go work for him ! (in venezuela I could not say this) - inactive, on 05/29/2009, -5/+8Why on earth would anyone here in the US support and defend a dictator like Chavez?
It's mindboggling. - emailowndme, on 05/29/2009, -6/+9he is, he's also saying the only true democracy is that which elects people he likes to power, so in other words, sham democracy.
I can't understand the shear disconnection you Republicans must have from reality yarayara. It's like you get up on top of a soapbox and yell. "I hate variable A, because I love Variable A!, and Variable A isn't Variable A."
Or in this case specifically, although this guy won democratically, because he won democratically, he's not in charge of a real democracy, and this guy isn't the only one who believes this. - urik88, on 05/29/2009, -2/+5Interesting. It really clashes with facts like the 22 channel in Israel publishing where missiles fell in Israel in contradiction to the orders issued by the IDF since it helped the Hezbollah aim better.
- Ikus13, on 05/29/2009, -4/+7When you have no freedom to buy a house, or retain yours, I believe it's different than if you have your personal properties secured. We in Venezuela do not want that to happen, but if nothing is done, populism will eventually lead to that. When in the United States the government takes your house without payment in order to place 4 families inside, we'll talk about lack of freedom.
The problem with humans is that those far from the problem tend to make judgments of the same weight and with the same tone of authority than those suffering directly from the problems. Learn when to differ between REAL freedom moron, not everything is "relative" in life. - merslerm, on 05/29/2009, -3/+5Wait why are they marching? So they can model their free press after Americas "free press?" The only opposing viewpoint in the liberal propaganda machine is FOX. Laugh all you want, but their recent viewership has DESTROYED every other television new source.
Hell even the NY Times wants to release abuse pictures and put our troops in danger simply so that maybe they can survive as a newspaper for a little longer. - merslerm, on 05/29/2009, -1/+3Having a viewpoint, while having an opposing viewpoint at the same time, is exactly what free press is all about.
It's sad that idiots like you make me think that the United States is full of incompetent ignoramuses.
Ladies and gentleman a typical Obama voting liberal! - mojofomoro, on 05/29/2009, -0/+2I bet Oprah can beat that number
- edstate, on 05/29/2009, -0/+2Good luck w/ that!
- anonymousmedic, on 05/29/2009, -4/+6Seriously? If you think the US has control of the media you need to do some research, and look at how much control the UK's state security acts give over the media.
The UK has more emergency power control over media than the US could ever hope for in it's most Dystopian Wet Dream. - Jitan, on 05/29/2009, -3/+5http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4462
- SirCharge, on 05/29/2009, -0/+2@email: Its not a true democracy if its people don't have basic freedoms, including freedom of speech.
- sciencelovesyou, on 05/29/2009, -0/+2Wow. From Venezuela to the 2000 U.S. election in only one easy step!
I see your elite media conspiracy and raise you a lizard-people controller monarchy. -
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