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In Pictures: Russia and Georgia at War

msnbc.msn.com — Russia sent hundreds of tanks and troops into the separatist province of South Ossetia and bombed Georgian towns Saturday in a major escalation of the conflict that has left scores of civilians dead and wounded.

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  • wille1623, on 08/10/2008, -62/+5Same story made front page 2 days ago.

    http://digg.com/world_news/Russian_Troops_In_Georg ...
  • MaxterICC, on 08/10/2008, -42/+15wait hold up, the US isnt involved in this one? weird.
  • laserluke, on 08/10/2008, -10/+393http://fumpr.com/images/ja9649gwx25j20sykl0q.png
    • Zantive, on 08/10/2008, -4/+3Shnapz.
    • ligyron, on 08/10/2008, -4/+25Blond
    • sfacets, on 08/10/2008, -4/+34OMFG.
    • Seann7656, on 08/10/2008, -3/+65Lol, obviously a joke though.




      ...Hopefully
      • fLUx1337, on 08/10/2008, -4/+52Don't be surprised: stupid people do exist, I have seen them with by own eyes.
    • rome747, on 08/10/2008, -3/+56I think Miss South Carolina said it best: "I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to [locate the US on a map] because, uh, some, people out there in our nation don't have maps".

      Exactly.
    • ho0ber, on 08/10/2008, -0/+8http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:UgWOgw-udKEJ: ...

      More good responses

      "WOLVERINES!!!" made me laugh.
      • Lythium, on 08/10/2008, -0/+10"Да, вся ваша база принадлежат нам!"
        All your base are belong to us - in Russian.

        Classic.
    • speel, on 08/10/2008, -8/+44Is the south totally retarded?
      • blackjack75, on 08/10/2008, -1/+32Stop making fun of South Ossetia. They have enough problems already.
      • tcpip4lyfe, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1Sometimes I wish they would have won the civil war.
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    • andregriffin, on 08/10/2008, -3/+9It's funny that such a progressive city like Atlanta is surrounded completely by country bumpkins. I'm always taken by surprise every time I travel a bit outside the perimeter.
    • Theowningone, on 08/10/2008, -4/+18who even uses yahoo answers?!!?!? i mean god these people use yahoo.... How can they have anything intelligent to say?!?
      • jorichter, on 08/10/2008, -2/+0And apparently nothing intelligent to ask either.
      • alclone, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7I use it. Questions that are more on engineering, science, math, etc. tend to be resolved really well. I would google for a few questions whenever I program and it tends to fail where yahoo answers does not. .
    • tehdiggster, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1Awwww, they really should have gone along with it.
    • Gforce20, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3They need to do way with instain mother who killed thier babbys.
    • sohailstyle, on 08/10/2008, -0/+5Hahaha...Jessica certainly should be worried
    • mike215, on 08/10/2008, -0/+0now thats a gem
  • judicar, on 08/10/2008, -24/+12Cue 300 "But the US invaded Iraq" Ad Hominem posts.
    • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -10/+4Cue clueless douche bag with guilt complex trying to presuppose comments based on the fact that he knows he's a citizen of a country that has pulled greater evils on smaller countries in the name of pure war.
      So there will be a lot of those comments for a reason: They're WARRANTED. You can't pick and choose on what wars to root for. This isn't the ***** NBA.
      Idiot.
  • ignisatra, on 08/10/2008, -31/+9Gotta love how they take time to take pictures of hurting people, but not help them.
    • swatward, on 08/10/2008, -9/+6Gotta love someone criticizing people over the internet.
    • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -2/+29Um, that's why they're called photographers and earn a living from it. They put their lives in harm's way so that the truth gets told about conflicts that the media would otherwise lie about and misrepresent in many cases.
      Last time I checked, there are a lot of people over there to help. They're called the ***** army.
      • krispykreams, on 08/10/2008, -5/+2You call this the truth? At least try to stay informed pal... Not to mention you can't claim intentionality without even knowing these people.
        Also, you do understand there were no Georgian soldiers left there at the time to help these people, right?
    • Scriabin, on 08/10/2008, -7/+3i like taking pictures of hurting people and not helping them. ooooh yeeeeeah
      • pault107, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1War photography is important, otherwise we wouldn't have as much information as we do about what's really going on in these places. Give the photographers some respect - it's an extremely dangerous job.
    • warsongs7, on 08/10/2008, -3/+5If everyone was helping then you wouldn't even know about this situation and be even more ignorant than you are right now.
    • JustAn0th3rFace, on 08/10/2008, -2/+9With that Medical degree they got.. right?
      Help WHO? Everyone?!
    • praisethelard, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2They follow the prime directive.
  • ufia, on 08/10/2008, -35/+12I'm putting my money on Russia. They are going to kick some ass. Georgia is going down.
    • appleseed1234, on 08/10/2008, -5/+31That's typically what happens when a massive country decides to invade a tiny one.
      • BabyWookie, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3This is what Georgia did. Compared to Georgia, South Ossetia is a tiny country.
    • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -15/+15You idiot. You talk about war like it's a college football game. Get ***** for being a typically American idiot.
      • ufia, on 08/10/2008, -6/+13You mean Russia vs Georgia is not a college football game? *****! Who wants a pair of plane tickets?
      • Telmarine, on 08/10/2008, -4/+2***** ya! 100% agree
    • zhulik83, on 08/10/2008, -9/+10Georgia deserves to go down and it should be erased off the map for doing what they did to south Osetia
      • BabyWookie, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3No. It is not the fault of the Georgian people, who are being used as pawns by their blood-thirsty, criminal dictator Saakashvilli. Sakaashvilli needs to be tried by the International Was Crimes Tribunal, for attacking the South Ossetian civillians, CIS and UN-mandated Russian peacekeepers and cynically using his own soldiers and civillians as pawns in this futile attac
  • ElCheLikesAudi, on 08/10/2008, -18/+9Come on guy digg this story up.

    *Note that I have nothing wrong with people of Russia or Georgia but this story must not go unspoken!*
    • leluuu, on 08/10/2008, -2/+0whats here to speak? huh? about russians aggression?
      i think the whole world has seen what russia is like and whatkind of democracy it has!
  • krispykreams, on 08/10/2008, -13/+0word.
  • Alighero, on 08/10/2008, -38/+1Between this and the Obama Anti-Christ scares (see BarackObamaantichrist.blogspot.com) the correlations between present events and the Biblical book of Revelation are a bit uncanny... I guess Jesus will be making a visit in the next decade or so, if we haven't blown each other to pieces by then.
    • nblsavage, on 08/10/2008, -1/+17Only if there is a zombie uprising.
    • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -4/+11you religious nuts and your f-in fairytales. Newsflash, the earth is not flat and you need to let go of books that were written by men (and women but those were omitted) thousands of years ago. Stop plaguing the rest of us!

      Sorry - a bit of a hot button.
      • bullioncube, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3What?!? The Earth isn't flat?!?! ***** YOU TOPGIGMEDIA!
      • Alighero, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1And I don't think that the Earth is flat, I'm not criticizing you for being agnostic or atheist... so why should you go nuts just because I mentioned the Bible or Jesus? Let's try and be adults.
      • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Irony: "let's try to be adults" coming from the one who pushes fairy tails and their endings on the rest of us as tho they are fact.
    • bs0l, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4You just called a presidential candidate the anti-christ? Classy.
    • Alighero, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2I wasn't taking a side, I was just saying that all of these events and all of the religious tension is growing and growing. Some of you guys need to stop being so intolerant, I thought that Digg was an unbiased news source, not a giant flame war.
    • YoshoKatana, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2"I thought Digg was an unbiased news source, not a giant flame war."

      Welcome to the Internet. You are an idiot.
      • Alighero, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1"Welcome to the Internet"

        You're certainly right about that... I guess I am an idiot for wanting to believe otherwise.
  • bsl4doc, on 08/10/2008, -49/+41So, are they going to force everyone in Atlanta to speak Russian now?

    But they can barely speak English! What will they ever do?!?
    • GooksBirman, on 08/10/2008, -3/+14You're too clever.
    • Telmarine, on 08/10/2008, -13/+12what the ***** is wrong with you, didnt you see the ***** pictures?

      look at all those people living in hell and you decide to make a joke?
      • bsl4doc, on 08/10/2008, -2/+17You do realise that humor is a way of disarming uneasiness and despair, right?
      • BokusatsuTenshi, on 08/10/2008, -3/+2Ironically, I laughed at your statement.
      • MrTulip, on 08/10/2008, -7/+2***** you, two of...aw ***** it
      • DarkDx, on 08/10/2008, -1/+6Chill the ***** out.
      • sildude, on 08/10/2008, -4/+3he does have a point
    • tarazz, on 08/10/2008, -4/+2you ignorant PUNK!
    • crainiarc, on 08/10/2008, -3/+2Go ***** yourself... Seriously
  • sentinel106, on 08/10/2008, -10/+129As much as we as diggers would love to take sides in this, I really think that both sides are to blame for this catastrophe
    • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -41/+57Americans are in NO position to lay blame on ANYONE for ANYTHING. We toppled an innocent country and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people and made up evidence to do so, so that we might secure their oil.
      So yeah, it's hard to talk blame in a conflict situation as an American, don't you think?
      • Halsfield, on 08/10/2008, -0/+26sadly its been done over and over by every major power of the world throughout history. America may have been the most recent but we are definitely not the first or the last
      • Dragular, on 08/10/2008, -3/+45You're damn right. Let them blow each other to bits. I'm not allowed to have an opinion on this war, because my country invaded Iraq.

        Also, the British, Germans, French, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, Mongolians, are all not allowed to have opinions either, due to the wars their countries have engaged in throughout history.

        Also, where's my oil?
      • Ymeg, on 08/10/2008, -1/+32You ignorant dolt. How can I not lay blame on anything? You can't seem to understand that we did not order the attacks, but out government did.

        Just because our government did something bad, it does not mean that we lack the ability to look at a situation and express our opinion.

      • XandraX, on 08/10/2008, -1/+16Who said anything about Americans?
      • DarkDx, on 08/10/2008, -2/+3If the goverment suddenly wants to invade mexico (for example), there's no amount of disagreement that will change that. Unless they start violent protests... in the whole ***** country, which the people wont because they will be busy watching American Idol and Bringing their kids to McDonalds.
      • angeland8, on 08/10/2008, -5/+1Nobody said you should not express your opinion.
        But the fact that more than 2000 people are dead and more than 30000 people had to left their homes in Ossetia is not very funny. I don't think that genocide of Ossetian nation is a reason to make jokes.
      • Dragular, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Nobody has made any jokes within this thread about the civilian deaths in the Georgian territory of Ossetia. What jokes are you talking about?
      • Naieve, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4"We toppled an innocent country"

        That started two wars in recent years, had rape houses, disappeared hundreds of thousands of its citizens, and used chemical weapons on its citizens.

        Come now, how about we stop the propaganda and speak logically on the situation.
      • TheCamino, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4 While you're at it, would you like to go through the history of the planet?
        People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones... and the history of the world is so violent, through all ethnic groups, that all I see around us is broken glass and open frames.

        Everybody, no matter where they come from, can't make comments about wars and atrocities at this point.
        Americans aren't any more horrible than any other people.
        There is no group on this planet that can ever say, "Yeah, well you should talk! You're all war criminals!"
        Face it. All humans are war criminals. We're all in the game of organized murder, and we like it. We like the silly outfits and the ribbons. We like playing 'all big and bad' on our fellow man, no matter the excuses. We like the marching bands, and the big missiles running through the town square.
        Why would Americans be any different than the rest of the world?
        Why would you hold them to a standard of piousness that the rest of the world would laugh about?

        You're just a causehead, culturally blinded, and shortsighted. You see what is wrong with your community, but you can't see beyond that to see the real problems of humanity.

        Oh, and I can say "war sucks," as an American with a straight face. So eff off. I'm not going to do something violent here to stop violence overseas, as many of you and many foreign people demand the American people do.

        "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." -The Mahatma
      • mystcnurse, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1Um, actually, we may be at least partially to blame for this one, too.

        Here is another perspective:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhyZjNApBg

        Honestly, if you watch the news, it looks like Russia just came in and attacked Georgia. But that is probably not the case. But hey, who cares, did you see the opening ceremonies?
    • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -17/+14Completely NO.

      The Georgians committed a war crime by directly targeting a civilian population and blowing it to smithereens.

      This is completely wrong, and the president should be brought to justice for it.

      The Russians have done the morally CORRECT thing to do by swooping in to protect its citizens from ethnic cleansing.
      • appleseed1234, on 08/10/2008, -6/+12Or its obviously just a land grab?
      • AReallyGoodName, on 08/10/2008, -3/+19Georgia was provoked by the South Ossetians in exactly the same way the Russians were provoked by the Georgians.

        http://www.france24.com/en/20080807-new-fighting-e ...
        7 Aug 08
        "attacks by seperatists claimed the lives of at least ten Georgian soldiers"
        "Despite our call for peace and a unilateral ceasefire separatists continued the shelling of Georgian villages"
      • Zaxcomp, on 08/10/2008, -6/+10@appleseed1234

        You do realize Russia had publicly said that they have no intention of trying to take land. They are merely fulfilling their constitutional duty to protect Russian citizens in the face of harms way. Furthermore, due to diplomatic agreements originating in the 90's and afterward, they are carrying out peace keeping roles against an openly aggressive enemy, who is targeting civilians, including women and children, who has destroyed all of the hospitals in the separatist region, and who has provoked these same peace keepers with war mongering intention.
      • lewikee, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7@Zaxcomp

        I don't know who's right or wrong on this one but I do know one thing: Russia publicly saying they have no intention of trying to take land doesn't necessarily mean they have no intention of trying to take land.
      • bumb1ebee, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3@Zaxcomp

        The Russians gave out Russian citizenships to people in South Ossetia. They were planning this all along, from granting citizenships to provoking the South Ossetian separatist movement. Once Georgia decided to maintain control over their territory through the use of force, the Russians would have an excuse to go in and attack.

        Russia's claims to be on a peacekeeping mission is losing merit fast once they decided to expand the conflict outside of South Ossetia and attack areas in Georgia proper. As the war drags on, Russia's true intentions are starting to quickly reveal themselves.
      • Zaxcomp, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1@bumb1ebee

        They didn't "give out" passports. These people have held passports since the Russian Federation was formed. Russia immediately established a policy of allowing anyone who held a Soviet passport to then posses a Russian one after the fall of the Soviet Union.

        I suggest you watch the BBC interview of Russia's foreign minister regarding the situation in Georgia.
    • remotehuman, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26090865/displaymode/1 ...

      that's the real face of war. any war.
      • DigzDogg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1this face has another side.
        unpolished, undirected, unphotoshopped....
        pictures of dead Ossetian civilians killed by Georgians' bombardment
        That WHY.

        http://osinform.ru/foto/7343-zhertvy-obstrela-juzh ...
        http://milkavkaz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9956#99 ...
      • mystcnurse, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Yeah, but if you go thru the whole slide show, you definetely get the USA MSM take on each.... the captions are incredible - the average American who can read will look at these pics and walk away with a view that is not even close to reality, all the while thinking they are "educated" about what is going on. I wish the MSM would just report the news and keep opinions and emotion out. Might insight some critical thinking on the part of our populace. Oh, wait....
    • EscapeTheTruth, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1I would just like to say that I think its funny how American news blames Russia for this whole conflict, while their past assistance to Kosovo in their fight to gain independance from Serbia is completely disregarded. ***** hypocrits.
  • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -14/+59It won't be much of a war.

    Russia wins, the end.

    Nothing to see here folks, move along.
    • Indrius, on 08/10/2008, -9/+23No.
      Nobody wins these wars, Soviet Union could not win in Afghanistan, current Russia cannot win in Chechnya, and they won't win in Georgia too. The same goes for the USA in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. None of these wars were won. You have to realize it is not a computer game.
      • MaxterICC, on 08/10/2008, -11/+6ohhhhh its NOT a computer game. makes sense now.... thanks.
      • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -11/+5AHHHHH

        I totally thought it was a computer game.

        My bad.

      • NinjaBull, on 08/10/2008, -7/+1Yep, got me too. I have to admit I thought it was a computer game too. Man, do I feel like an ass or what!
      • Darksider, on 08/10/2008, -8/+3For mother Russia (in horrible Red Alert 2 Russian accent)
      • hresult, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Wake up, dude, Russia has already won in Chechnya (Kadirov serves Russia well)
    • mrwoo, on 08/10/2008, -10/+9Well russia was invaded! They are fighting back the invaders. Fair enough realy. They want to continue into georgia? Well maybe that is exceptable after all they were attacked. The allies continued into germany did'nt they?
      The problem is that Bush has already stated that he will come to the aid of geogia if thier territory is invaded.

      Forget politics, just from a military perspective this is like the germans invading poland. But this time a larger country has been invaded. Why do the USA and NATO want to aid the attackers? Georgia started this fight they should deal with the outcome.
      The problem is that this war has the potential to involve NATO and the USA. If that happens it will be a war to end all wars.
      • buba1243, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4There will never be an end to all wars.
      • pe5t1lence, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Well all wars and all life.
      • EscapeTheTruth, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1I believe what he meant to say is that a war of that scale would end all life on earth. Both Russia and the USA posses a great ammount of WMDs.
    • Wakuko, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4Before starting a fight, learn to choose an opponent.
    • AutoTom, on 08/10/2008, -3/+4yeah like russia won in the war on afghanistan..

      if the people just keep fighting there's nothing they will be able to do.

      its just up to the georgian people, how far do they want to go?

      ( personally i'd give russia what they want.. )
      • zeabu, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Russia didn't win in Afghanistan because they were fighting 2 strong enemies. The Muhadjeen, and the US, which was not doing too much to cover up they were involved in the conflict. It's actually quite hard to deny your presence if people take pictures of your planes.
      • Jlaugh, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1The US military has been training the Georgian military for years now, what makes you think we are not involved?
    • toonworld, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1Nothing to see? Obviously you didn't really look at the pictures, did you?
  • djoobacca, on 08/10/2008, -19/+156Wow, Georgia's invasion left 2,000 Ossetians dead and all MSN shows is Georgian casualties, Russian attacks, and destroyed cities. Talk about bias. Guess MSN is no better than CNN.
    • johnnyb3, on 08/10/2008, -22/+6Russia shouldn't be violating the internationally recognized borders of Georgia.
      • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -2/+31Just wow...

        So the Georgians commit a war-crime by directly targeting Russian citizens in an unprovoked attack.

        They murdered 1500 Russian citizens who had no protection.

        The murdered the 20 Russian peace-keepers inside the town who had absolutely no chance of fighting against ranged artillery.

        Russia have done the RIGHT thing by swooping into protect its citizens from evil ethnic cleansing.

        ***** this bias media coverage.
      • ZenMojo, on 08/10/2008, -1/+15Even though the democratically voted upon borders of Georgia haven't included Ossetia in almost two decades....

        Oh, right, guns make borders, not people....
      • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -1/+14Completely corrupt.

        You cannot trust western media these days.

        Your better off doing independent research and coming to your own conclusion.
      • sanman, on 08/10/2008, -0/+23Uhh, do you remember how Kosovo has been part of the international borders of Serbia since ancient times, until a recent US-led 'Coalition of the Willing' pried it loose?

        Georgia shouldn't be ethnically cleansing the Ossetians. Case closed.

    • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -5/+24Completely corrupt.

      You cannot trust western media these days.

      Your better off doing independent research and coming to your own conclusion.
      • zeabu, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Try European media, not perfect, not unbiased, but at least a little bit more credible.
    • fish0507, on 08/10/2008, -3/+6I reccomend you all the the real news network. I have been using this ever since it came out. Seem's to be fairly accurate in my opinion. Obvioussly any news is biased but they seem to be doing their work.

      http://therealnews.com/t/
    • spaniardhobo, on 08/10/2008, -5/+9Your media won't be reporting this accurately because in reality it's a power fight between the USA and Russia. . This is a fight over the BTC pipeline. Europe is also backing USA this time, we are also interested in the BTC pipeline, and this explains also the sudden political moves to accept Turkey in the EU.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan_p ...

      Reading the wikipedia article sums it up nicely. Georgia receives US support during years and Ossetia separatists are funded by the Russians at the same time.
    • howufinna, on 08/10/2008, -3/+41I was watching nbc nightly news and they said Georgian aggression was the cause of this war. And they interviewed many Georgians saying that this was their president's fault. Stop turning off the news before it's finished.
    • richmomz, on 08/10/2008, -4/+13The U.S. and Georgia are BFFs so the media bias is not surprising - Georgia is the second largest supporter of the Iraq war behind the UK, with 2,000 troops. It is also a major source of Caspian Sea oil.

      A fun trivia fact - During WWII Hitler tried to seize this exact same geographic area to provide his army with desperately needed fuel - the Russians threw in everything they had to stop them, and the result was a titanic military clash in a little Russian city called Stalingrad...
      • spaceshipsix, on 08/10/2008, -1/+0Yes the Russian's threw in everything they had to protect their own Republic. It was all the USSR back then.
    • Gioware, on 08/10/2008, -9/+3Are you dumb idiot? Russians are bombing Georgian Cities what Ossetians? They are not dead, they run away and are now settled in Georgia

      So STFU and learn to READ IDIOT!

      Unless you are not Put-in Brainwashed ignorant!
    • LeonidasStokely, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2To be fair, these look as though they were all taken by one photographer. He or she couldn't realistically portray both sides of the war with pictures. Still, if that is the case then MSNBC need to send more guys out there to provide balance.
    • bumb1ebee, on 08/10/2008, -2/+3Those figures were not independently confirmed by reliable sources. Russia may very well have exaggerated the death toll in order to justify an attack. Sorry, if you don't like the supposed bias in the media over this issue then you shouldn't be throwing around unconfirmed numbers as if they were fact.
    • mystcnurse, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Gosh, kind of sounds like Israel and the Palastenians.
    • spaceshipsix, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1You are trying to create an issue when there isn't one. The photographers go to Georgia when there's a war there. And they see bombed out Georgian cities and injured people. The photographers likely can't mingle with the Russian infantry when they are fortified as a group. So they stay in public places taking pictures of what is there.

      Everyone loves a conspiracy.
    • Steelfox, on 08/10/2008, -1/+5The 2,000 Ossetians you claim dead have not been confirmed by anyone. Georgia is saying only a little over 100 Ossetians have been killed and Russia is claiming 2,000 dead. Russia is attacking random Georgian towns and bases while Georgia is retreating. Who is to blame now?
      • silence2night, on 08/12/2008, -0/+1300 (not 100) are in morgues. They haven't even started taking corpses from under the ruined buildings and off the streets.

        And please stop this ***** about bombing "random Georgian towns" - only two bases were bombed.

        My personal favourite amoung all lies by Saakashvili is the one about the bombed airport. On the next day the idiot gives an interview standing right in front of it and it's clear as day that the airport is undamaged.

        God, can't he afford to hire a person to take down all of his lies and remind him of them from time to time? Lamest liar ever.
  • Iztikeit, on 08/10/2008, -20/+13I'll never understand war and nothing will ever make me understand it.
    • dcraigwise, on 08/10/2008, -9/+3Neither you nor me brother. I just don't get it. I want my neighbors house so I'll just blow the family away and take it. My other neighbor has more land then me - guess I'll blow their family away and take the land. Neighbor across the street got solar panels - guess I'll do same to them. Just don't like the neighbors next to them , they go to a wierd church - guess...
      • Fun4Two, on 08/10/2008, -1/+5"Only the Dead Have Seen the End of War" -Plato.

        War, for those who love or hate it, will always be around as long as human are around. But it doesn't mean people shouldn't try to prevent them.
      • krnldmp, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1War will be the last religion to fail.
      • Frozo, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4Um, sounds like you understand war pretty well.
    • MaxterICC, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4well that's just a defeatist attitude..... try machiavelli
      • Iztikeit, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1I've read The Prince more than twice.
    • LenBaird, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3All people aren't like you and me. There are people in the world who will kill thousands, or even millions, for their own gain, and then go on vacation, play with their grandchildren, and sleep every night like a baby. Understand that, and you will understand war.
      There are others (me included) who would go to war if those people ever come after me, my country, or those I love. Hopefully you would too, because if that ever happens, and you sit around and wonder why they are doing what they are doing, and denounce war, they will kill you and sleep like a baby afterwards too.
      • Iztikeit, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1I know there are people like that but war and I know why they do, most of the time, but it still never makes any sense.

        If Bush, for instance, decided to come after you what could you do about it? Absolutely nothing.
    • PixelEater, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Federal Reserve. Ebb and flow.
  • MacSuxWindozSux, on 08/10/2008, -3/+231Editors Note: Ass crack offensive, wounded and dead people are not.
    • Squeeself, on 08/10/2008, -1/+52Exactly. There's is something REALLY wrong (and not just war & destruction) when someone's natural body parts (not even genitalia) are considered "graphic content," yet bloodied, dying, and dead people are not. As a fairly desensitized person, I found the bloody content extremely disturbing since these are real people. That single warning is so very represntative of what is wrong with morality in the media today...
      • DarkDx, on 08/10/2008, -6/+7>what is wrong with morality in the media today...

        Try to replace "media" with the "usa" (and a lot of other countries too, but not the majority).
      • Merp08, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1I completely agree brother.
    • clearwaterlab, on 08/10/2008, -1/+9I laughed at loud (really) when they had me press play. I was expecting something worse, since they had already shown us bloodied soldiers and bombed homes, as well as the shocking picture of the man holding his brother.
      But nah, just some crack.
      Dude, I live in Portland. Or haven't you heard? We're the home of the Crackland Jail Breakers... hehehe
    • Abram730, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1The Family took over America.

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-245399105 ...
    • wrs123, on 08/10/2008, -3/+8Anyone else kind of appalled that the photographer took the time to set up a perfect shot of an old woman crying and bleeding instead of going to her aid? She is a human being in need, not the means to profit.
      • Jektal, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2You can argue that his photo raises awareness of their suffering, and in turn can cause far greater help than he alone could offer.

        Or, that taking photos is his ***** job, and he has responsibilities to live up to.
      • YoshoKatana, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Or the fact that he's probably not A MEDIC. I doubt, based on her injuries, that he could do anything to help. I know I don't carry vials of morphine around with me.

        Photographers photograph. That's their job. If you don't appreciate it, DON'T LOOK AT PHOTOGRAPHS.
    • matthewrex, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Exact same thing just shocked me. I was bracing for some gory stuff...
    • nimbusnacho, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1It might also be because he's dead. But I thought it might be the asscrack thing too at first.
    • mike215, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2first words out of my mouth after i hit the play button "you gotta be ***** kidding me"
    • Homerr, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1More pics: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.ph ...
  • ThrstForKnwldge, on 08/10/2008, -8/+54Georgia ***** up big time.
  • Frejesal, on 08/10/2008, -16/+98WAR!
    HUR!
    YEAH
    WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR
    ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN!
    UH HUH
    • sfacets, on 08/10/2008, -9/+12Actually, it is the way America became the richest country in the world.
      • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -3/+3being a father, I feel for the children that have to be ruled by complete asshat adults dropping bombs on each other. Simply sad.
      • charm803, on 08/10/2008, -0/+22And quickly becoming the poorest.
      • DarkDx, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1I don't think there has been 20 iraq-like for-profit wars since the independence. Could you explain me why is that?
      • balazsbela, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1I would argue that actually it was the lack of war that made America the richest country.But have it your way.
      • dralezero, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1I thought China was.
    • efitz11, on 08/10/2008, -3/+14the original title of the book "war and peace"
      • FlimBlimmer, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1now will someone please shut that goddam pocket organizer up??
    • pacificislandr4, on 08/10/2008, -10/+2~Jackin Chan, Rush Hour
      • lacronicus, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3You, my good sir, have just failed.
      • YoshoKatana, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Wait...really? Wow...

        You give a bad name to pacific islanders.
    • WildTang3nt, on 08/10/2008, -5/+6War comes naturally to us. There's no stopping it, Humans in general are pretty despicable.
      #1 Biggest industry in the world is the arms trade
      #2 Drugs
      #3 Porn
      #4 Food (exploiting developing countries for their land in order to grow it or obtain it)
      #5 Oil

      People are ruled by fear. Governments hold onto their power and maintain the status quo with fear, and line their pockets with war profits. The best way to incite fear is to make everyone scared of terrorists, and the military industrial complex has to be put to use to be funded.
    • jack104, on 08/10/2008, -0/+0Wars like these are pointless but if you talked to a WWII vet they'd sing a different tune.
    • JasonCox, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2Thanks, now I have Jackie Chan singing stuck in my head.
  • efitz11, on 08/10/2008, -12/+3the russians went down to gergorge
  • ShadowFox06, on 08/10/2008, -18/+7Isn't this wonderful? All the leaders are at the opening ceremony minding their own business while Georgia is taking a beatdown from Russia. Funny how Georgia, our Ally, helps us in Iraq yet we don't flinch when we seeing them being destroyed.

    Not saying we should intervene militarily but we should help more in a diplomatic sense.
    • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -5/+14WE? As in the United States of America? The harbingers of war and destruction? Step in and be diplomatic?
      You're thinking of another country. At the very least a whole other time in our history. Look at what we do and then look at what we turn around and accuse others of doing.
      It's madness but we're in the middle of a maddening situation ourselves that was hinged on false facts and made up evidence. Go figure.
      • Dragular, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1nevermind, ***** it. sick of feeding the troll.
      • Halsfield, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2Oh yea we're just totally mad dog killers of the world. We just laughed and drank beer when world war I and II were going on. oh wait.

        Now if you would like to look at history previous to 2000, you will see every major country of the world doing the same thing that was done in iraq. Claiming they were attacked or will be attacked, decimating the resistance, and claiming the country as their own, or as a territory, or implanting a puppet government and claiming they are free to rule themselves.

        We were the most recent (until now), but we are definitely not the first, and absolutely not the last.
      • Zaxcomp, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3@Halsfield

        Just because other countries did the same is not a reason for the US to do the same. Be the change you want to see in the world.
      • Paulish, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1"The harbingers of war and destruction?"

        If the harbingers of war and destruction told me to stop fighting I would do it, lest I incur their wrath.

        I still see your point though.
      • Halsfield, on 08/11/2008, -0/+2@zaxcomp , my point was that all of the nations of the world do things like iraq. Especially the empire building of europe's main powers. However they are still for the most part looked to as moral centers of the world. The same is true of America, or its true of none. There seems to be a lapse of memory of the past 20-30 years, they only see the present and forget the past.

        You seem to think only americans commit human rights atrocities and yet what we do compared to china is night and day, what went on in south africa is the same, north korea completely controls the media and controls everything about the daily lives of its people. In America there is relative freedom of press, speech, and personal rights. The latest president has been increasing the governments power to control its citizens, but i highly expect those to be repealed in the next presidency as everyone in America seeks regime change.

        Everyone around the world seems to think we all chose Bush, when in fact 49% of us did not choose him, and half of the people who did choose him are regretful. He has below a 30% approval rating the last time i checked and still falling. He is also currently being impeached although its doubtful it will complete before he is removed from office simply by time.

        So again, my point is that other countries point fingers at us while their hands are still bloody from their previous and current wars. We're going to change, but it needs to be global.




    • fish0507, on 08/10/2008, -6/+3One of the most idiotic comments EVER. You should just quit using the internet.
    • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -4/+6They are being brought to justice from murdering 1500+ Russian citizens.

      The president should be trialled for this war crime.

      How insulting is it that the ask to drag US and NATO into this? How the hell can you expect to get away with such an evil act. Targeting civilians and blowing them to pieces?

      What did they think the Russians were to do? Just sit back and see their fellow comrades slaughtered like lambs?

      Conclusion: Georgia in the wrong, Russia in the right.
      • sildude, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Russia would have been in the right if they had let the fighting stay within South-Ossetian borders. Now it should accept the cease-fire offer from Georgia.
    • BECoole, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1How do you know? Do you have some important state department bigwhig you've been getting information from?
  • krispykreams, on 08/10/2008, -15/+102These are so one-sided... "Oh those poor Georgians..." and what about the roughly 2000 people who were unexpectedly bombed during the night in S. Ossetia? And what about a city that was absolutely demolished before the Russians even got there? The western media is such garbage. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for this idiotic war it is the Georgian president himself.
    • bsl4doc, on 08/10/2008, -19/+9You do realise the group that killed those people was trained, armed, and funded by the Russians, right?

      You also realise that Putin has been consolidating old Soviet power and territory since 2000, right?

      Right? Yeah, I thought you did.
    • 1randomguyO8, on 08/10/2008, -1/+7Wheres are the pictures of the town damage?
    • vckeating, on 08/10/2008, -9/+3Well, only the Russians are talking about the thousands of people killed by the Georgians. So far there's no evidence that this is the case - pictures, etc. We'll see after the smoke clears whether this is true or (as I suspect, at least in terms of the magnitude) nothing but Russian propaganda.
    • mrwoo, on 08/10/2008, -7/+11Yes georgia attacked russia. It was a planned invasion of S. Ossetia. The russians have come to teh defence of thier people. Our media here in britain is stationed in Georgia which i find terrible. Thier are immages of the bombing of S. Osetia, C4 news showed some. It was almost a blitz krieg.

      the georgians are acting no differently then the nazi forces did when attacking poland. The only difference this time is that the country they attacked is russia.

      Why do teh BBC and ITN take the aggressors side? I don't get it!
      • plaunie, on 08/10/2008, -4/+8Except South Ossetia is part of Georgia.
      • NightVortez, on 08/10/2008, -2/+3Which gives Georgia the right to demolish the capital and kill thousands of civilians and peacekeers? Because some world organizations who have nothing to do with the issue don't recognize their independence? They've been governing themselves for over ten years, and about 90% have Russian passports, they don't belong to anyone.
      • mrwoo, on 08/10/2008, -2/+2People in S. Ossetia hold russian citizenship, not georgian.
    • dupek11, on 08/10/2008, -7/+5If Russians didn't have a nasty habit of killing independent journalists ( like Anna Politkowska ), perhaps we would more photos from areas under the control of Russian forces. Also Georgia is a democracy, Russia is not and that has an effect on press freedom.
    • fas2, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4The US is behind it. They were training Georgian soldiers in combat about a month ago.
      • Merp08, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3We train a lot of soldiers in different countries.
    • silence2night, on 08/12/2008, -0/+2I love it how Georgia manages to destroy an entire city (and several villages) and kill numerous people and STILL have the guts to act like a victim.

      Saakashvili is really shameless.
  • kevptim, on 08/10/2008, -1/+42Nothing to do but hope for a ceasefire at this point. Georgia knew that going into South Ossentia would result in Russian retaliation but they did it none-the-less. It's hard to have sympathy for the Georgian government, but all to easy to have sympathy for the thousands of civilians caught in the crossfire.
    • TheMachine1, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Yeah I was reading another article of how the president of George used military force to break up a protest in the past to. He is a bit impulsive.
  • appleseed1234, on 08/10/2008, -8/+13The guy in picture 4 looks like he's trying to scope out the ladies.

    It's a shame we aren't allowed to see what happens in Iraq.
  • mayra1201, on 08/10/2008, -2/+59why is a peek at a buttcrack considered "graphic" when we used to look at britney and paris' cooches every day?
    • cuttlefish, on 08/10/2008, -5/+0Its not the butt crack... it the dead body. No other pic has a _dead body_
    • DemDude, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3So you noticed the buttcrack, but you didn't notice that the person it belongs to is DEAD?!

      @cuttlefish: Yes, there is another one in the third picture.
    • NightVortez, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4Because buttcrack is serious *****.
  • hiPpymIck, on 08/10/2008, -0/+14BBC video report..the violence at beginning is pretty graphic
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7551291.st ...
  • algaeturd, on 08/10/2008, -10/+30War is ***** stupid. It amazes me that we're living in 2008 and people haven't figured that out yet.
    • bloodqc, on 08/10/2008, -9/+4I know it suck but war, racist, slavery and all that stuff will always exist whatever we do. The only thing we can hope is to reduce it.
      • Soulbow2, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1So...we go to Iraq and kill 100,000 people to "free" them?
        And we don't go to Darfur of course, because they have no oil.
      • jack104, on 08/10/2008, -1/+0No, we go to iraq to destroy an imminent threat to the middle east and we don't go to darfur because the Chinese would go ***** if we did.
      • YoshoKatana, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Jack, this is no place to have this discussion, so I'm going to simply say "you're wrong" and go on with my day.
    • wissler, on 08/10/2008, -6/+13War is a natural consequence of how human beings have organized their governments.
    • maticus, on 08/10/2008, -11/+11War is a natural consequence of human existence.
      • krnldmp, on 08/10/2008, -4/+7Wrong.
      • infection0, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1I don't know who to believe.
      • Naieve, on 08/10/2008, -1/+6Funny how they digg you down and say you are wrong and no one believes you.

        Only all of recorded human existence backs up your argument, so obviously you are wrong.
      • CanceledCzech, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2No, all history says is that there has been, seemingly constant war. It does not say that war is a natural consequence of human existence.
      • wissler, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Yours is precisely the attitude that keeps humanity in this state.

        Up until recent historic times, human life was generally "nasty, brutish, and short". Reason applied to the physical realm has drastically changed that. If we were to apply reason to the political realm, the change would be even more dramatic for the better.
      • Naieve, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1And in a perfect world Communism works.

        Of course the problem being that these perfect humans you all talk of simply don't exist.

        Please continue ignoring the human condition, I am sure that is what you do best.
    • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -6/+10bush president 2 times. Science is being pushed out of our schools. This is the "free" world. Surprised? I am surprized when I am not disappointed.
      • Rock3tsauce, on 08/10/2008, -2/+5I was wondering how far we'd get till it became George Bush's fault.
      • Naieve, on 08/10/2008, -2/+3Didn't you get the memo?/

        Bush is the root of all evil.

        /sarcasm...
      • zeabu, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1It's not about Bush. Bush is only the result of a dumbed down society, were whores like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton are the heroines of little girls, David Beckham the idol for little boys. He is the result of a society that worships people that are proud to say they don't understand math, that cannot write phrases without errors, use more cocaine than normal people do sugar.
        Bush is not the root of all evil, he's a branch on a tree, a tree with a rotten stem.
      • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Perhaps I should clarify. I was responding to the root of this thread... "War is ***** stupid. It amazes me that we're living in 2008 and people haven't figured that out yet."

        I was only citing examples of other short sighted decisions made by people and in this case, Americans. The focus was not to be on Bush, but instead that his dual elections are merely examples of the complacent, disappointing culture we have created for ourselves.

        Sorry - Should have clarified for those that missed it.
    • ExRe, on 08/10/2008, -1/+10It's funny how blind faith and politics can absolutely control and destroy people huh?

      Wars are started by two kinds of people, those who will become rich because of the war and those spouting religion.
      • krnldmp, on 08/10/2008, -7/+2They call it the earth
        Which is a dumb kinda name
        But they named it right
        cause we behave the same...
        We are dumb all over
        Dumb all over,
        Yes we are
        Dumb all over,
        Near n far
        Dumb all over,
        Black n white
        People, we is not wrapped tight

        Nurds on the left
        Nurds on the right
        Religous fanatics
        On the air every night
        Sayin the bible
        Tells the story
        Makes the details
        Sound real gory
        bout what to do
        If the geeks over there
        Dont believe in the book
        We got over here

        You cant run a race
        Without no feet
        n pretty soon
        There wont be no street
        For dummies to jog on
        Or doggies to dog on
        Religous fanatics
        Can make it be all gone
        (I mean it wont blow up
        n disappear
        Itll just look ugly
        For a thousand years...)

        You cant run a country
        By a book of religion
        Not by a heap
        Or a lump or a smidgeon
        Of foolish rules
        Of ancient date
        Designed to make
        You all feel great
        While you fold, spindle
        And mutilate
        Those unbelievers
        From a neighboring state

        To arms! to arms!
        Hooray! thats great
        Two legs aint bad
        Unless theres a crate
        They ship the parts
        To mama in
        For souvenirs: two ears (get down!)
        Not his, not hers, (but what the hey? )
        The good book says:
        (it gotta be that way!)
        But their book says:
        Revenge the crusades...
        With whips n chains
        n hand grenades...
        Two arms? two arms?
        Have another and another
        Our God says:
        There aint no other!
        Our God says
        Its all okay!
        Our God says
        This is the way!

        It says in the book:
        Burn n destroy...
        n repent, n redeem
        n revenge, n deploy
        n rumble thee forth
        To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side
        cause they dont go for whats in the book
        n that makes em bad
        So verily we must choppeth them up
        And stompeth them down
        Or rent a nice french bomb
        To poof them out of existance
        While leaving their real estate just where we need it
        To use again
        For temples in which to praise our god
        (cause he can really take care of business!)

        And when his humble tv servant
        With humble white hair
        And humble glasses
        And a nice brown suit
        And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls
        Tells us our God says
        Its okay to do this stuff
        Then we gotta do it,
        cause if we dont do it,
        We aint gwine up to hebbin!
        (depending on which book youre using at the
        Time...cant use theirs... it dont work
        ...its all lies...gotta use mine...)
        Aint that right?
        Thats what they say
        Every night...
        Every day...
        Hey, we cant really be dumb
        If were just following gods orders
        Hey, lets get serious...
        God knows what hes doin
        He wrote this book here
        An the book says:
        He made us all to be just like him,
        So...
        If were dumb...
        Then God is dumb...
        (an maybe even a little ugly on the side)



        -Frank Zappa
    • Fun4Two, on 08/10/2008, -2/+7War will always be around buddy. Have you not read a textbook lately or listened to your teachers. There will always be war when people are around and I can guarantee you that 100%. I'm not trying to sound pessimistic or complacent about this situation in Ossetia, but believing that war doesn't happen in the present day or will happen in the future is quite frankly the most naive thing I have ever heard. But, I hope deep down that those two countries can settle their differences and prevent more killings as soon as possible, as naive as that might sound.
      • gwolf, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2I don't believe that, I am sure one cave man said to another, "Whoever has the biggest tribe wins the war, that's just the way it is; and always will be". People figured out that being organized and disciplined wins wars, not sheer force of numbers. We haven't evolved at all since the cave dwellers, but our motives have.

        Wars have always been about the resources in the places that were being fought over, nothing more. When we find a way to meet the basic human needs of the bulk of humanity, the crime of war will end because the motive for it will no longer exist.

        Just not in our life times.
    • mutz, on 08/10/2008, -2/+10War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. 1984
    • Slacker1031, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1war is natural, how we as humans utilize what we have will change it's face but in the end it's just violent nature at it's worst.
  • L4WL3RS34L, on 08/10/2008, -2/+95#13 says it contains graphic content because it shows part of a guy's ass, even though #10 shows an elderly wounded woman covered in blood.
    • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6and a foot of someone else to her right.
    • cuttlefish, on 08/10/2008, -8/+0Its not the butt crack... it the dead body. No other pic has a _dead body_
    • diggimator, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2And I've seen girls in public wearing lowrise jeans with more exposure than that. It's silly that they thought they needed to add that warning.
    • Enron, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2#20 looks like it was photoshopped by Iran
  • stranglethorne, on 08/10/2008, -14/+83Wow after viewing all these pictures NBC are completely friggin bias.

    About 90% of these pics show bloody Georgian soldiers wounded, georgian civilians hit by russian blasts, georgian civilians crying because of the russians etc.

    How about showing a few pictures of the 20 Russian peace keepers who were murdered by a shellings.

    Or more pictures of the 1400 south ossiens who were blown to pieces by the georgian military in a completely unprovoked attack.

    Heck that has to be a WARCRIME, you can't bloody target a civilian city and just shell it.

    What would america do if the chinese decided to drop a 1000 artillery shells on a small defenseless US town?
    • leha, on 08/10/2008, -2/+32You see the problem is that there are no western journalist in South Ossetia because Georgians are shelling it and it is too dangerous there. So the only place journalists can take pictures is in safe and calm (apart from a few stray bombs that unfortunately killed some civilians) mainland Georgia.

      PS: at least 4 russian journalist were wounded in Ossetia since the war started.
    • AeroMerde, on 08/10/2008, -12/+12Your analogy really doesn't work at all. China dropping artillery shells on a defenseless town in the US is more like what Russia's doing to Georgia than what Georgia did to the Ossetians.

      Calling the attack by the Georgian government "completely unprovoked" is ignorant given that there's been a conflict between separatists and Georgia. I'm not saying Georgia is free of any blame, but you're way to pro-Russia.
      • reboare, on 08/10/2008, -6/+3War is a business game. More than likely, Russian did the dirty work on themselves as a provocation to enter into this war.
      • zhulik83, on 08/10/2008, -5/+4OH yeah, Russians made suckershvilli bomb South Osetia. You're ***** stupid.
      • alfa5vodka, on 08/10/2008, -6/+3...and you choose to completely disregard the spark point that started this whole war and that was unprovoked Georgian military attack on S. Ossetia. Dumbass you reek of pro Georgian bias...also maybe Georgia should try to stop ethnically cleansing the people of Ossetia; you know such things are not really approved off.
      • sildude, on 08/10/2008, -1/+6@alfa5vodka South-Ossetian separatists disregarded the cease-fire offered by Georgia and intensified their attacks. Now is this enough reason to level a town, not really but saying there was no provocation is just incorrect.
      • sc0rpi0n, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7Georgia's president should have known the consequences of shelling South Ossetia. This is obviously a provoked attack, and he knew the Russia would be drawn into this.
    • mrwoo, on 08/10/2008, -8/+11939. Germany launches blitz krieg on the nation of poland. The germans claim the territory is thiers. Poland was german soil aproximatly 20 years earlier.


      Seriously am i the only one seeing that this is no different. Georgia is playing the role of germany in 1939 in terms of military action.
      • Tssst, on 08/10/2008, -1/+11939. German chancellor uses the word 'The' (in German)
        2008. US president uses the the word 'The'.

        Am I the only one seeing the similarities?
      • mrwoo, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1The Jewish problem
        The Extremist Islamist Problem

        I see the similarities.
    • XercesAD, on 08/10/2008, -1/+0Murdered? It's not like they didn't know what they were getting into. KIA is a better assumption wouldn't you say?
    • Enron, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2To answer your question: assuming the small American town has a Walmart, the Chinese would only be hurting themselves by attacking it.
    • kaha07, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1From what sources you know that there were 2000 civilians died in Tskhinvali? From Russian TV stations of course which r fully controlled by Russian government!!! And u suppose that this figure is right? U mast be fool then :) did u know that 2 days before attack Separatist government were saying that they fully evacuated city ?
  • krispykreams, on 08/10/2008, -14/+26get your facts straight and your head out of your ass, Georgia attacked first and did this so that you and other Americans would feel sorry for them when the Russians come to beat them back... : /
    • vortah, on 08/10/2008, -6/+2Word.
    • topgigmedia, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4did you ask them?
    • zhulik83, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4Thats exactly whats happening.
      • alfa5vodka, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1Check CNN; since that picture of bloodied old Georgian grandma came up Russia lost the pr war in the west...
    • kaha07, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1R u sure? That’s again Russian propaganda *****!! Georgia did not start first at all, there were shooting from both sides, then Georgia offered them to cease fire and did not shot to tskhinvali for up to 3 hours, within that time Russians and separatist did not stopped fire and bombed Georgian positions and Georgian villages, only after that Georgian side have started massive attacks
  • sfacets, on 08/10/2008, -0/+83War, regardless of who starts it, affects the people, not the politicians.
    • kemp34, on 08/10/2008, -0/+32Bring back the duel!

      Leaders wanna fight? DUEL.
      • mutz, on 08/10/2008, -0/+5leaders want to fight?
        Line them up and shoot them.
    • FreddieD, on 08/10/2008, -1/+6I cannot possibly dig you up enough. I'm less concerned with Russia and Georgia's leaders trying to flex their muscles or jockey over a disputed territory, and am more concerned with innocent civilians who just want to live their lives in peace.

      Look at some of those pictures closely, specifically the man crying as he holds the dead body of a relative, or that fat elderly lady crying while all bloodied up. They aren't looking to cause trouble, they just want normal lives. When you don't just gloss over it like it's a bad movie on HBO and really look closely at those pictures, it's incredibly sad.
    • Icecream, on 08/10/2008, -10/+1Your not as profound as you think you are.
  • shieldsikebana, on 08/10/2008, -6/+13thank you digg, I can always count on you to make light of a serious situation.
  • ZenMojo, on 08/10/2008, -2/+21Funny how the news cycle changed so quickly. Yesterday the news was either ignoring or shrugging off 1400 dead civilians from Georgia's military action. Now they're losing their ***** over "scores" of Ossetians dead from Russian attacks. (Scores, for those uninformed, are multiples of 20. 60 civilians are reported killed and wounded from when Russia bombed a Georgian military base.)
  • specialK16, on 08/10/2008, -3/+22Are some Diggers really that ***** insensitive and stupid? Or is it that *chan has been down for the past week?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26090865/displaymode/1 ...

    This is incredibly sad.
    • EbowUK, on 08/10/2008, -0/+7"Diggers really are that ***** insensitive and stupid"

      Fixed.
  • T440, on 08/10/2008, -2/+17Just incase anyone else out there doesn't quite know what's going on either:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_Wa ...
    • Nicomashi, on 08/10/2008, -3/+2Oh... they are too lazy to read this, CNN brings it right to there ears, eyes and brains. And they only need eat this.

      Mmmm... So tasty!!! Give me more!
      Mmmm... ***** Russians!
      Mmmm...
    • Mier, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4I wouldn't trust wikipedia during a war. People could type whatever the ***** in that thing for whatever reason.
      • Nicomashi, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3All right, do not believe that Russians wrote in Wiki. Believe CNN there are holy people, they do not lie That's right!

        We began to write at all sites the world because simply did not believe our eyes when your media proclaimed us aggressors. This we wrote that the Georgian troops first attacked Ossetia. We just want you to know about it. That they killed 2000 people, they have done before the Russian came to help them.

        I personally can not watch as someone lying brazenly and so today I am here, and until you try to say you: "Listen us too!!!"
  • Tyrghast, on 08/10/2008, -3/+8In that tenth picture, I really hope the photographer helped that woman out of the rubble after pausing to get a good shot...
    And I really hope our current American government doesn't try to reprimand Russia, that would be hypocrisy at it's finest. If anything this should act as a lens with which our leaders can recognize and take responsibility their own messed up affairs.
    • cadmiumpaint, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6its not ethical for photojournalists to interfere with the news they are covering. This is a HUGE ethical dilema for them because they are human beings first.

      There was a famous case with the photograher taking a pic of a starving kid in Africa that won him the pulitzer. He was so stricken with guilt for not helping that he killed himself.
    • EmileVictor, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2That picture was horiffic... Why do we care more about the olympics than this?
      • Lith25, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2Let me have a shot at this. Olympics only happen once every 2 years, we have war every day.

        /s
      • cadmiumpaint, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2The Olympics promote world harmony and healthy, friendly competition.
  • hiPpymIck, on 08/10/2008, -4/+12south Ossetia is ethnically 2/3 non Georgian 1/3 Georgian
    North Ossetia is already an independent state in the Russian Federation
    half the population of South Ossetia have accepted Russian passports
    they broke away from Georgia and theyve been governing themselves for a while

    ..so i guess thats the way itll go
    • zhulik83, on 08/10/2008, -2/+6Over 90% of population in South Ossetia have accepted Russian passports, not half
  • Residents, on 08/10/2008, -3/+10This is in a real way scary, because I think globally we really don't need more war right now. This ***** gets out of hand quick.
    • CanceledCzech, on 08/10/2008, -0/+3Violence is impossible to control.
  • speel, on 08/10/2008, -4/+14World, I beg of you please stop these wars.
    • sdubois92, on 08/10/2008, -0/+6That'll work...
      • GenericJoshman, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3I think it actually requires two digg posts similar to this for world peace to go into effect. Darn.
  • Zvyier, on 08/10/2008, -3/+10This is incredible, so many graphic scenes of Russians killing Georgians any nothing of Georgians killing Ossetians. Or for that matter I have not seen MSN show Iraqi civilians being killed ether
  • reboare, on 08/10/2008, -5/+18War is for stupid *****.
    • algoseek, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4...and war is ignited by clever f*cks.
    • Darksider, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2and in the end the civilians are *****
  • c0mputar, on 08/10/2008, -7/+73Ossetia has being trying, one way or another, to break off of Georgia entirely since the fall of the Soviet Union. A few years after the fall, Ossetia declared independence, which was not recognized by Georgia. A poll done in the late 90s had something like a 95-99% approval rate to seperate, and that was with a 95% turnout rate. South Ossetia's population is 90% russian. Such a thing happened in any western country, and you would have the UN and multiple western countries on the side of the Ossetians.
    This is just like Tibet and China. However, unlike China, Georgia has taken the step to make this a full-scale war while committing genocide. Comon... they began the attacks right at the start of the Olympics so the rest of the world would be too busy to notice a bunch of Ossetians being blown up, 1500 civilians on the first night to be exact... Civilians who had no way to defend themselves, nor could the 1000 Russian peacekeepers who are completely inadequate to defend against shelling, whom 20 were killed in as well.
    Unfortunately for Georgia, they failed to take South Ossetia fast enough and set up there army into the sole chokepoint into the region (the north is one long mountain range, with one entry point from russia which leads into South Ossetia. Now, like any other ***** country in the world, Russia is pouring there army into the region to defend a region which should either be its own country or apart of Russia, and even if neither of that is true, you bet my ass that the USA, of all the countries in the world, would be the first to come to the defense of a helpless democratic region. Unfortunately for Russia, the US has been backed by Georgia in Iraq, and has helped Georgia build there military... and it doesn't help that the media loves to hate on Russia and so the american government will do what it can to please the american ignorance and help Georgia.
    In simple steps:
    1. South Ossetia has sought independence from Georgia for more then 15 years.
    2. Georgia shells South Ossetia killing 1500 civilians and 20 russian peacekeepers in the first night, and more acts of genocide were committed within Ossetian villages later in the day.
    3. Russia sends military into region to defend South Ossetia from the aggression.
    4. Georgian president, realizing he's *****, seeks help through western intervention.
    5. This won't work, and the worst that can happen to Russia is that it gets villainized by the media.
    FUTURE POSSIBILITIES FROM THIS POINT.
    6. Russia takes over Georgia, or just South Ossetia
    7. Russia cuts a deal with Georgia to gain control of the oil pipelines so that Georgia can remain intact.
    8. No matter what, South Ossetia is going to fall into the hands of the Russians now, which is probably what the Ossetians want.
    • krnldmp, on 08/10/2008, -9/+2That's pretty accurate far as I can tell. You'd also have to be Pretty Stupid to be so Russian and figure there's nothing better to do than stay in South Ossetia when it has been keeping Georgia from joining NATO. Hey! It ain't like RUISSIA doesn't have any space for Russian nationals (or Russian nationalists for that matter.)

      I somehow doubt you'd actually need to, but maybe the rest of you ought to read up a little and see if some of this doesn't start to make better sense.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

      • CHANNELOCK, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1So like California should be given to Mexico because Mexicans will soon be the majority and Americans have 49 other states to soak up the refugees
    • Mier, on 08/10/2008, -5/+2Russia brings the hate on itself. Putin has acted more like a dictator than a president or prime minister.

      And according to the article I read the pipeline is way at the southern edge of Georgia. Russia would have to go a long freakin way to get that pipeline and that would be blatant. I doubt Russia will go that far and if they do then I pray that George as actually been buying those anti-missile batteries like a drunk sailor cause we're going to need them.
      • DigzDogg, on 08/10/2008, -1/+1Russians protecting ALLY PEOPLE, not pipeline. Can you imagine such irrelevant actions? Speaking about pipelines - they had enough of them for the moment even without Georgian (which is not functional in any way)
      • Mier, on 08/10/2008, -2/+1I see the FSB (aka KGB) has hired some helping hands to try and "guide" opinion even on the web. Nice.
    • PeaceForGeorgia, on 08/10/2008, -6/+0you've made some mistakes dear. Ossetia's "independence" is not recognized by any civilized state, among them - bu russia. :)

      and do you know how russia "loves" ethnic minorities? >>> so much that in 1944 several hundred thousand caucasians were exiled in siberia. and some more Abkhazians - in Turkey, in 1860s,do not forget that :)

      And also remember what is the main income of Kokoiti crime clan - contrabanda, drugs and weapon business. now this "brave guys" are hiding like a timid hens. and innocent people are dying for their ambitions.

      bear in mind also that over 90 national minorities live in Georgia peacefully. among them - Russians, Polish, Chiness, OSSETIANS, Chechens, Kurds, Turkish, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Slovenians, Arabs, Afroamericans, etc.
      • CHANNELOCK, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Russia exiled the minorities like the Volga Germans and the Caucasians because....
        They didn't trust them
        Same with Georgia..
        Georgia picks NATO and Russia is *****.
        Baltic ...*****
        Poland ...*****
        If the ***** hits the fan like it did during Hitlers invasion who's side will they take again?
        The proved their loyalty during WW2 and Russia paid dearly for that.
        The West wants the oil just like Hitler wanted it and Russia see peak oil coming and knows from experience what to expect
      • DigzDogg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+0>you've made some mistakes dear. Ossetia's "independence" is not recognized by any civilized state, >among them - bu russia. :)
        so like

        >and do you know how russia "loves" ethnic minorities? >>> so much that in 1944 several hundred >thousand caucasians were exiled in siberia. and some more Abkhazians - in Turkey, in 1860s,do not >forget that :)
        Germans burned few millions Jews in death camps in 1939-1945 but now Germany and Israel are working together and almost not talking about that. US dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan in 1945 - now we are best friends with them. Japanese violently murdered few millions of Korean and China people but now they making canons and nikons together... in comparison with that "exile" sounds like a children game which is very easy to be forgotten with good will and good intentions in mind.

        >And also remember what is the main income of Kokoiti crime clan - contrabanda, drugs and weapon >business. now this "brave guys" are hiding like a timid hens. and innocent people are dying for their >ambitions.
        support your words with reliable sources pls. something beyond the phrase like "it's well known fact that..."
        It's well known fact that Saakashvili got military support and military training from States
        http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/gtep.ht ...


        >bear in mind also that over 90 national minorities live in Georgia peacefully. among them - Russians, >Polish, Chiness, OSSETIANS, Chechens, Kurds, Turkish, Armenians, Jews, Germans, Slovenians, >Arabs, Afroamericans, etc.
        Yep. Until Saakashvili get in charge. Every heard about Georgian _alternative_ president candidates or any opposition parties in Georgia? And never will because they are either killed or banned from political operations.
      • BabyWookie, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2It wasn't Russia that exiled those people. It was the USSR, which at the time, was ruled by a blood-thirsty Georgian tyrant named Joseph "Stalin" Dzhugashvilli, who spoke Russian with a very thick accent. He was also the one who forced South Ossetia to be the part of his homeland of Georgia in the late 1920's.
    • iSinned, on 08/10/2008, -3/+1tl;dr
    • thematrixexpert, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1awesome; spot on
      1. South Ossetia has sought independence from Georgia for more then 15 years.
      2. Georgia shells South Ossetia killing 1500 civilians and 20 russian peacekeepers in the first night, and more acts of genocide were committed within Ossetian villages later in the day.
      3. Russia sends military into region to defend South Ossetia from the aggression.
      4. Georgian president, realizing he's *****, seeks help through western intervention.
      5. This won't work, and the worst that can happen to Russia is that it gets villainized by the media.
      FUTURE POSSIBILITIES FROM THIS POINT.
      6. Russia takes over Georgia, or just South Ossetia
      7. Russia cuts a deal with Georgia to gain control of the oil pipelines so that Georgia can remain intact.
      8. No matter what, South Ossetia is going to fall into the hands of the Russians now, which is probably what the Ossetians want.
      as a catalan, the anglo supported franco made the same attempt to remove the sovereignty of the catalan people over catalunia.
      georgia's war monger generals playing the olympics cards for optimal media distraction. didn't work though; russians war monger generals are playing the appropriate turf for the time being
  • thesomkid, on 08/10/2008, -2/+28I hate to see all those innocent people in this situation no matter what side they are from. With that said, NBC is taking sides by showing those graphic pictures and they are trying to make Russia look like the bad guy. I am not an expert Russia and Georgia's relationships but Georgia's new president is up to something. He is playing like he is the victim and he is not doing any good for his people by trying to please the west. I would def like to see NBC show graphic pictures from Iraq but I don't think that will ever happen. The American media is B.S. Lets stop all this nonsense and look out for the innocent.
    • Nicomashi, on 08/10/2008, -0/+4Thank you, that even trying to understand something, and not blindly follow for newspaper headlines
    • sc0rpi0n, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Russia's and Georgia's politicians are the bad guys. All of them intentionally killed innocent civilians.
  • bunnybash, on 08/10/2008, -2/+4how is it that even with the reality of war staring us in the face via photos, video and people's stories, that we are still fighting like this?
  • RRJackson, on 08/10/2008, -11/+5See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite. And gunpowder. And gasoline. Do you know what all of these things have in common? They're cheap.
    • TheBigBad, on 08/10/2008, -2/+9gasoline cheap? What ***** cave have you been living in?
      • RRJackson, on 08/10/2008, -1/+3Evian's what, about a buck for a 16 oz bottle? That's around $8 a gallon. When gas costs more than spring water get back to me.

        Here's hoping it gets there soon, though. Yesterday I drove from Bradenton to St. Pete across the Skyway bridge and through the middle of town on 275 and never had to slow down below 70 mph. No traffic at all, really. The prices are keeping the peasants off the roads. It's wonderful. I'd love to see $15 a gallon gasoline.
      • darny, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2i'm pretty sure it's still cheaper than c4. I'm definitely sure it's cheaper than uranium. and hydrazine.
      • TheBigBad, on 08/10/2008, -1/+2@RRJackson. Evian is about $8, but you're not paying that amount for the water, you're paying for the name on the bottle. I can drink tap water which is less than a penny a gallon. I can't, however, buy a cheaper brand of gas based on brand name.
      • twomeyw23334, on 08/10/2008, -0/+2I think Gotham, maybe in the bat cave?
    • PeaceForGeorgia, on 08/10/2008, -2/+0lol. maybe you have idea what can dinamit do. when you experience its results on the owns skin, you'll become a bit complicated person :) anyway, i don't wish it to you.
  • judicar, on 08/10/2008, -8/+11Russia is going to look like a bad guy because they are the one invading another sovereign nation. Yeah Georgia invaded S. Ossetia, but they're a province of Georgia. At that point it was just a civil war, but when Russian invaded they turned it into a regional war. Attacking S. Ossetia was a colossal bone-headed move on the part of Georgia because it gives Russia an excuse to pimp-slap them back to the stone age, but don't be fooled Russia isn't attacking Georgia to protect Ossetia, this is yet another war for oil. Any war in the area will destabilize the region and cause the price of oil to go up.
    • zhulik83, on 08/10/2008, -8/+6Ossetia was never a province of Georgia. Over 90 percent of ppl there hold Russian citizenship.
    • Nicomashi, on 08/10/2008, -4/+5Georgia has no oil, it is transported through its territory from Azeybardzhan. Russia have enough oil. You only see in all questions ... oiloiloiloiloiloiloiloil. At Kavkaz continuing unrest on for centuries, they are such hot people.

      Russia love Georgians, but hates Saakashvilli.
      • DigzDogg, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1
        >Russia love Georgians, but hates Saakashvilli.
        So do Georgian people!
    • PeaceForGeorgia, on 08/10/2008, -7/+2Excuse me, sir, but Georgia did not invade South Ossetia. Georgia tried to free it from the occupants and from illegal government. "His Excellence" Kokoiti is changing pampers when the innocent people are dying under Russian aviation.


      http://www.russianaggression.org/
      http://www.stop-bombing.blogspot.com/
      http://www.tsxinvali.blogspot.com

      Russia violated our borders, destroyed many buildings, killed thousands of our citizens. just have a look at these blogs. this is tiny part of Russia's "deeds".

      Maybe you like it and striving to happen it in your homeland, but thank you, I do not want it to continue any more in Georgia!
      • Nic