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youtube.com — Shocking testimonials by Gazans reveal the treatment they receive from the ruling Hamas group.
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- jcm267, on 08/14/2008, -1/+24I would like to see what the "anti-Zionists" have to say about this one. Perhaps they'll just ignore it.
- btgoss, on 08/14/2008, -3/+5An "Anti-Zionist" is just as incapable of seeing the truth as a "Pro-Hamas/Islamist" (whatever tag you would hang on it.)
The reality is all of the forces fighting in that region are wrong, and this confrontation is nothing more then a schoolyard grudge match at this point. Without support from other countries, both sides would have either come to terms with one another or eliminated each other at this point. But the world taking a hands-off policy at this point is not going to happen.
As the major power Israel has to be the leader in ending this conflict. They can end it one of two ways, by killing everyone (which at times appears to be the plan, a final solution if you will.) Or they can be serious about a real peace, and try to deal with all of the years of anger and hostility that the Palestinians have. Of course that would mean allowing the anger to run it's course. But we have seen that will only lead to more terrorist actions by Hamas. So there is no chance of that happening either. This really is a lose-lose situation, and it is sad.- neko6, on 08/14/2008, -2/+11If Israel's killing of 180 Palestinians (out of app. 4 million) in each year of conflict seems to you like a plan to wipe them out, what do you call the US killing of 600,000 Iraqis in a month, or Russia's killing of 3000 Georgians in two days...?
- catcher6250, on 08/14/2008, -1/+11the 600,000 was since 2003 to that month.
- btgoss, on 08/14/2008, -3/+5An "Anti-Zionist" is just as incapable of seeing the truth as a "Pro-Hamas/Islamist" (whatever tag you would hang on it.)
- lindsayt, on 08/14/2008, -1/+16Like any conflict, there are many many many points of views. These Palestinians are being persecuted because they support creating a Palestinian State alongside the existing Jewish one. Hamas wants a Palestinian State at the expense of Israel.
One thing is very true in this video. Israel does care for all hurt peoples in their hospital, regardless of whether these people are Israeli Jews. After terrorist attacks within its borders and territories, all victims are treated at the same level of care, including Arab Israelis, Christian Israelis, Palestinians, etc. - Darren07, on 08/14/2008, -16/+1Hey Israelis, how about you live under occupation for 50 years, without human rights, in ***** holes and refugee camps, let's see who else YOUR freedom fighters will hate.
- catcher6250, on 08/14/2008, -1/+17Hey Darren, how do you completely ignore the fact that its the Palestinians own fault for their own situation?
- DrDreyfus, on 08/14/2008, -1/+13Jews have lived under oppressive regimes throughout history.
Show me a case where they murdered civilians.- Trublmakr, on 08/14/2008, -12/+1http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/07/16/ ...
- DrDreyfus, on 08/14/2008, -2/+12Are you ***** serious?
Israel was bombing Lebanon because Hizzb'Allah captured 2 of their soldier and were, on a daily basis, lobbing rockets into Haifa.
Does the article accuse Israel of targeting those civilians? No.
Casualties are an unfortunate reality of war.
Go to hell. Next. - Trublmakr, on 08/14/2008, -10/+1I know the circumstances,.. you asked for the example. Apparently feel the killing of innocent civilians is only "unfortunate" because it was done with expensive warplanes.
- DrDreyfus, on 08/15/2008, -1/+9Either you didn't understand what I was saying or you are intentionally misrepresenting my words so I will put it bluntly:
Hamas intentionally kills civilians.
The Israeli army does not intentionally kill civilians. - Trublmakr, on 08/15/2008, -7/+1There's no room for a description of the killers intentions on a dead child's tombstone.
- DrDreyfus, on 08/15/2008, -1/+7That's not an answer - that's a play to emotions.
Try again. - wpi97, on 08/15/2008, -1/+8"There's no room for a description of the killers intentions on a dead child's tombstone."
So if a child is killed in a car accident, then the driver who lost control of a car is a murderer? Intentions matter a great deal. This is why reasonable legal systems (but apparently not you) make distinctions between premeditated murder, non-premeditate murder, negligent homicide, and accident. This is why intentional murder of civilians is a war crime, but unintentionally killing civilians by attacking legitimate military targets is not.
Please give me an example of a modern military that did not kill any civilians during war. And if, as I expect, you do not find one, then please give me an example of a moder military that made a greater effort to minimize casualties among its enemy's civilians than the IDF. - Trublmakr, on 08/15/2008, -5/+1That's not a "play",.. it's a fact. Your myopic military mindset can't seem to grasp emotion - the humanity and suffering of those in the occupied territories - that's why you're not likely to see any more peace over there than those 4 Lebanese-Canadian children briefly enjoyed here. (Before their ill-fated summer vacation.)
If you want to debate the circumstances under which you feel justified killing innocent children,.. I'm not interested. I'll condemn it always on both sides... but you ***** does indeed stink. - DrDreyfus, on 08/15/2008, -1/+5@Trublmakr
"They will stop fighting us when they love their children more than they hate us." ~ Golda Meir
Israel's enemies attack.
Israel responds.
That is how it has _always_ been.
Do you honestly believe you can condemn Israel to do _nothing_ when rockets filled with ball-bearings are being fired into CIVILIAN areas with the INTENT to maim and murder CIVILIANS?
Israelis don't broadcast shows aimed at children that teach them to hate.
Israelis don't pay mothers to have their children blow themselves up with the intent to murder civilians.
Israelis don't dance in the street when a child-killer is set free.
Israelis don't send their kids to summer camp where they learn to fire rockets and RPGs.
Israelis DO prosecute those who commit crimes - Israeli-Israeli crimes AND Israeli-Palestinian crimes.
- sbernie, on 08/14/2008, -2/+9Am I the only one that gets tired of the foul language that is used to "debate" the issues? Come people, certainly you can find different words to express your frustration or anger. Hamas, Hizbullah, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Syria, Lebanon, et al. have no respect for human life. It was the arabs in 1948 that demanded the arabs living in what is now Israel to leave. the new government of Israel begged the arabs to stay. The only palestinians were Jews. It wasn't until Yasser Arafat mis-appropriated the word that the world decided to call arabs "palestinians". Arabs that left their homes for refuge camps have been political pawns used by the arab nations to try to destroy Israel numerous times. It is time for the nations of the world to repent and turn the to G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His Messiah Y'shua. That is the call that is going out.
- daveyWSS, on 08/16/2008, -3/+1AHEM,
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