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If Americans Knew the Truth about Israel/Palestine... wow

ifamericansknew.org — The media is controlled, look at the facts yourself! (Since Sept 2000) - # Children Killed (Israeli: 123; Pals: 1,050!); # Killed Total (Isr: 1057; Pal: 4,862!); # Injured (Isr: 8,341; Pal: 32,744!); $ US Aid PER DAY (Isr: 6.8 Million!!!; Pals: $300,000 to West Bank Only). Read the entire site to see the truth so we can take back our America!!

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  • lesleye, on 07/18/2008, -6/+19You should never believe what you read in the press. The facts speak for themselves.
  • netuserx, on 07/19/2008, -8/+11Most of the people know the truth .. but no one help actually .
    Damn .
    • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -1/+7Actually, not many know the truth, which is why I dugg this website. Americans should know! The death knell of Democracy = when the first media-manipulated/ignorant vote is cast! Educate, empower, and save our liberties.
    • ciaran036, on 07/19/2008, -1/+4Many Diggers know the truth. But take, for example, in the city where I live, most people don't know their arse from their elbow.
  • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -4/+13You can help! Spread the digg!
  • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -29/+14"Children Killed (Israeli: 123; Pals: 1,050!);"

    That's because Israelis don't use children as human shields like Islamic terrorists do. Israelis don't launch attacks from hospitals and religious buildings and have them stocked with children so that there is a large collateral body count when the Israelis defend themselves.

    "# Killed Total (Isr: 1057; Pal: 4,862!); # Injured (Isr: 8,341; Pal: 32,744!);"

    Israelis don't arm civilians and send them off to do suicide bombings with the promise of instant access to Heaven with all the wine and virgins you can handle. Also, remember that Islamic terrorists use human shields.

    "$ US Aid PER DAY (Isr: 6.8 Million!!!; Pals: $300,000 to West Bank Only"

    This figure doesn't include various outlays to foreign Islamic entities which promote this conflict.

    Article buried as misleading, incomplete, biased, and full of propaganda. One wonders if Islamic entities are not funding this website.

    From their own website:

    http://ifamericansknew.org/about_us/whoweare.html

    Per Whois.org:

    WHOIS information for: ifamericansknew.org:

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    • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -5/+14With all due respect, you are spreading more lies. Please see this video where two former Israeli Defense Soldiers talk about the atrocities committed, the coverups, and the rationalizations people try to make based on false media coverage:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37MFa7ZKQWo

      Also, your whois information revealed nothing but that you were wrong. Look at the owner's name.

      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -5/+3With all due respect, anyone can find two people to say anything about anyone at any time.

        I can find two former Navy SEALs who talk about gutting our military, the "atrocities" committed by Americans in uniform, and how America is not a great country any more.

        Liberal politicians John Kerry and Bob Kerrey.

        But two people's opinions do not automatically equal reality.

        I also find it telling that the only reference to back up your claim was a Youtube video. Please...how lame.
      • Kizilbash, on 07/19/2008, -4/+4Without any respect at all, Spaza you are an idiot as well as a liar. Israeli soldiers have used Palestinians as human shields, used Red Cross ambulances to carry out raids and generally did everything you accuse the Palestinians of doing, B'Tselem has documented it and even Ha'aretz has reported on it several times. There has never been a documented case on the other hand of Palestinians using ambulances in operations.
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -6/+3@ Kizilbash

        Yes, there are documented cases of Palestinian terrorists using civilian vehicles including ambulances.

        http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5079

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3EuCO7jOM

        Palestinians using children as human shields:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLwIotgcr8M&feature ...

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2217076/Al- ...

        Now, show me the evidence that Israel has done the same.

        Sir, where have you been hiding all these years?
      • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -1/+2It's a youtube video of a documentary and there's no reason to reject it as invalid except your own delusions of righteousness.
    • Cayfox, on 07/19/2008, -6/+13"Israelis don't launch attacks from hospitals and religious buildings"

      No, they launch attacks _on_ hospitals and religious buildings. They have a well-equipped police force, and their military spending is surpassed in the region only by the Americans and the Saudis.

      Bh contrast, the Palestinian militants are essentially paramilitary organisations - they only have civilian infrastructure to base their operations from.

      "Israelis don't arm civilians and send them off to do suicide bombings"

      According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, there have been a total of 140 suicide bombings since 2000. Many of these have been perpetrated by militia groups. So suicide bombings account for a very small proportion of the civilian deaths. I can only assume your talk of "human shields" is largely a euphemism for collateral damage, when children get in the way of missile strikes from Israeli helicopters....

      "[$300,000] doesn't include various outlays to foreign Islamic entities which promote this conflict."

      Find some (accurate) figures to come up with a more realistic bottom line, then. I can tell you though, you're going to have a tough time turning David into Goliath. Military and diplomatic power is overwhelmingly stacked in Israel's favour, which is why Israel is the party that needs to address the situation.

      If you're concerned about the figures on this site, they're well supported. If the site has a substantial ideological bias, it certainly isn't reflected in the numbers.

      And fascinating though it is, the WHOIS info adds nothing to your argument other than about a hundred lines of text. And it still seemed a little thin...

      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -4/+2"No, they launch attacks _on_ hospitals and religious buildings. They have a well-equipped police force, and their military spending is surpassed in the region only by the Americans and the Saudis."

        ...when those hospitals and religious buildings are used as bases from which to launch terrorist attacks against civilians.

        Please! If you don't see the evil in using civilians facilities from which to launch attacks against innocent women and children, then you have been suckered by the Islamic propaganda machine.

        "According to the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, there have been a total of 140 suicide bombings since 2000. Many of these have been perpetrated by militia groups. So suicide bombings account for a very small proportion of the civilian deaths. I can only assume your talk of "human shields" is largely a euphemism for collateral damage, when children get in the way of missile strikes from Israeli helicopters...."

        140 suicide bombings equalled hundreds if not thousands of civilian deaths and damage. But, I suppose for some the relative numbers matter more than actual human carnage. Your relative morality is showing.

        And those children get killed when wimpy Islamic terrorists hide behind those children when the reprisals come.

        "Find some (accurate) figures to come up with a more realistic bottom line, then."

        http://vienna.usembassy.gov/en/download/pdf/aid_pa ...

        Why don't YOU check it out for yourself. Actually, my $300,000 figure was only one or two outlays. The actual number is in the tens of millions.
    • medfreak, on 07/19/2008, -5/+11The next biggest myth is that "Israel kills children because Palestinians use them as human shields"

      http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2008. ...

      On this website, every single child death is documented in detail, including the full name, date and circumstances. Many of them are killed by direct sniper fire.
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -7/+3Anti-Israel, pro-Islamic propaganda. Nothing more.

        Even the notoriously anti-Israel Associated Press say something different.

        http://www.ifamericaknew.com/media/ap-report.html
      • medfreak, on 07/19/2008, -1/+3Well if that is the case, then it would be the worst anti-Israeli propaganda ever, since they also document the death of each and every Israeli child.

        Thanks for showing your real colours, which is looking very trollish right now.
    • AchaIemoipas, on 07/19/2008, -2/+6"That's because Israelis don't use children as human shields"

      What the ***** do you call this then?
      http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6451/israelhuma ...
      http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hebron_hu ...
      http://www.btselem.org/English/Email_Update/old/Im ...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAU8N-TQEdA
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOULiXk1yHM&feature ...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8Ctx0h-eY
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -3/+2"What the ***** do you call this then?
        http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6451/israelhuma ..."

        What's the context in this photo? Maybe this boy was picked up by some Israeli soldiers for throwing rocks? For this photo to be an example, those Israeli soldiers would have to be under imminent attack.

        Context, mister, context. Don't just find a photo on the internet and paste its link, dude.

        http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/hebron_hu ...

        Again, context. Was this young man a terrorist who was apprehended in the act of terrorism? Looks like they just didn't have time to bring him back to a jail cell.

        http://www.btselem.org/English/Email_Update/old/Im ...

        Same deal. Same terrorist.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAU8N-TQEdA

        So, you have some stone-throwing youths who will probably grow up to do worse things standing in front of a jeep to get their stone-throwing buddies to stop.

        Wah! Cry me a river, you liberal. Sounds like good punishment to me. We're not talking about taking school kids and firing at Israelis while standing BEHIND those school kids.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOULiXk1yHM&feature ...

        Biased newscast. Frequently, these civilians help Islamic terrorists. It was the man's house after all. No problem with having him open all the doors first.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8Ctx0h-eY

        Same crap...except this newscast tells how the man himself was suspected of being a terrorist. Weird how THAT little fact was left out of the first newscast.

        Look, when you're surrounded by people who want to kill you, you don't take chances. When you're surrounded by people who are throwing stones at you, you tend not to worry too much about their civilian status. Know what I mean?
      • AchaIemoipas, on 07/19/2008, -1/+3That was so stupid it gave me nausea.

        You're a living stereotype. You're also a biggot. And I'm pretty sure you have some kind of mental illness.

        No I won't argue, what's the point? If you still haven't mastered basic, simple logic at your age, you'll die stupid.
  • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -9/+22Friends, please excuse JimmySpaza's racist rubbish about Muslims and Arabs. It is evident from his own submissions that he believes in teaching intelligent design over evolution in classrooms and stifling the American right to know the truth.
    • avengingturnip, on 07/19/2008, -2/+8Jimmy is really sincere but he has fallen into a manichean heresy and cannot find his way out of it. He worships the idol, Israel, and hates everyone who does not kneel to it.
    • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -10/+2I support Israel when they are right. I support the other "occupying" countries in Palestine like Syria when they are right.

      You did know that Syria invaded Lebanon and Palestine too, yes?

      Friends, don't let the ramblings of some washed-up leftwing professors keep you from the truth. Do your own research. Look at a variety of news sources. Visit Palestine for yourself.

      Anyone who thinks that the supporters of Israel WORSHIP Israel is off his medication.
      • AchaIemoipas, on 07/19/2008, -3/+8I'm not your friend, guy.
      • avengingturnip, on 07/19/2008, -2/+6You support the government of Israel unqualifiedly. You minimize the sufferings of people simply because they are not Israeli. Right or wrong in its actions, the government of Israel is off-limits to criticism in the U.S. despite its demands on our aid and now direct military support. That cannot be justified by any religious doctrine that is not in its essence making an idol of race and therefore false.
      • Conspiracy20, on 07/19/2008, -2/+3well done Turnip..........:)
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -2/+2@ avengingturnip

        Don't know how to make this any easier for you.

        When Israel is right, I support them. When they are wrong, I critique them. Same thing with ANY other country. Period.

        Now, when critics of Israel decry the horrible Palestinian treatment of civilians as well as Israel's human rights violations, then we'll talk again.
    • buggu, on 07/19/2008, -1/+9I wish he was just the odd nutjob present on every forum and internet message boards, but his delusions are shared by many Israeli apologists. Just wait before this topic is filled to the brim with them, I wouldn't be surprised if this submission is tagged inaccurate as well, like the many factual links of Israeli's criminal record have been on Digg.
  • bepart, on 07/19/2008, -6/+18more statistics from an ISRAELI human rights group
    http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Index.as ...
    http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualti ...

    Defence for Children International - Palestinian Section
    http://www.dci-pal.org/english/home.cfm
  • AntiPropaganda, on 07/19/2008, -8/+15***** Israel, they think because they were victims we couldn't possibly be thinking they could do the same.

    This is more of an insult.
    • HumanCattle, on 07/19/2008, -4/+6"***** israel" - careful friend, people have been banned here on digg for saying such a thing :-(
      • ciaran036, on 07/19/2008, -2/+3Use a euphemism - We do not support Israel!
    • ciaran036, on 07/19/2008, -2/+2Israel - victims? hahaha...
  • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -5/+18My fellow Americans, YOUR taxpayer dollars, in the form of $6.8 MILLION per DAY to Israel, the largest beneficiary of US aid, went into buying the bombs that Israeli children are encouraged to write messages to Arab kids on: "Die, With Love". These pictures are Israeli kids writing in sharpie on bombs that were dropped on Lebanon:

    http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of- ...

    WRITE TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, TELL THEM NO MORE TIES TO THE ISRAELI LOBBY!
    • JeremyGrieves, on 07/19/2008, -3/+5Wow, I'd feel bad to be funding a genocide if I was American. But Israel is Americas foothold in the middle east and they will not let it go.
    • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -7/+2Did you do the translation yourself?

      What was the CONTEXT of those children writing on those artillery shells?

      By the way, not all those were gravity bombs, some were ARTILLERY SHELLS. Big difference? Well, if you want anyone to view your anti-Israel ramblings with any credibility, you might want to get your basic facts straight.

      How do you know that they weren't also writing the names of relatives killed by Palestinian Islamic terrorists on those shells?

      Only leftwing wackos believe that Israel has no right of self-defense.
      • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -2/+3Self-Defense is one thing; having your children write, in plain English (did you look at the pictures?) messages of "love" on bombs for the people those bombs will kill is wholly different. I'm not a "leftwing" wacko as you believe. I am, indeed, a right-wing wacko. It's morons that you that have hijacked the conservative/Republican stance into being something that it is not. For instance, you may believe that abortions are wrong, citing your love of life. Well, what about the lives of the Palestinian children? Are they not as valuable as the lives you intend to protect?

        Additionally, I'd be careful about who you label a wacko, considering your support of intelligent design over the theory of evolution. One word: dinosaurs. lol
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -4/+2"Self-Defense is one thing; having your children write, in plain English (did you look at the pictures?) messages of "love" on bombs for the people those bombs will kill is wholly different."

        It wasn't just plain English, buddy. Weren't there any Hebrew words?

        And what does an isolated incident have to do with anything?

        "I'm not a "leftwing" wacko as you believe. I am, indeed, a right-wing wacko. It's morons that you that have hijacked the conservative/Republican stance into being something that it is not. For instance, you may believe that abortions are wrong, citing your love of life. Well, what about the lives of the Palestinian children? Are they not as valuable as the lives you intend to protect?"

        Yes, they are just as valuable. But, if Palestinian leaders and parents would stop putting those kids, or allowing them to be placed, in harm's way, then the body count of Palestinian children would be next to nothing.

        "Additionally, I'd be careful about who you label a wacko, considering your support of intelligent design over the theory of evolution. One word: dinosaurs. lol"

        What does intelligent design have to do with dinosaurs? Intelligent design deals with the CAUSE of this planet and life on it, and doesn't DEMAND a 6,000-year-old earth!

        Intelligent design looks at this planet and asks if natural processes alone can do the job from proto-bacteria to dinosaur to human. It cannot. So, the answer must be elsewhere.

        I think that you might have a skewed notion of what supporters of intelligent design really believe...so, I'll tell you what I believe.

        * The earth is about 4 billion years old
        * The first life form was created by God about 2 billion years ago.
        * Over the millenia, God dropped in more life forms and allowed them to EVOLVE. Yes, I believe in evolution to a point.
        * Natural processes cannot create life nor can DNA mutate indefinitely and in an unrestricted fashion.

        Because natural processes couldn't do it, I look for a cause elsewhere. This science-based search links up with my religious beliefs nicely.
  • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -5/+11Check this short video from CNN out, too... it just keeps getting worse:

    http://digg.com/world_news/Great_rebuttal_by_CNN_a ...
    • MarkEarhart, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1I think we should stay out of the wars of other nations, but the fact that we send billions to Israel in foreign aid each year pisses the Hell out of me. I'd rather them give Hezbollah Tomahawk Cruise Missiles, Hell Fire Missiles, Bradley Armored Vehicles, fighter jets, cluster bombs, and MOABS than to give Israel so much as a .22 caliber revolver. Israel has caused nothing but problems since it was formed by land theft sixty years ago, and I'm damned tired of supporting them. They have the strongest military in the Middle East by far, and are ultra rich. What the ***** are we doing giving them billions of dollars?

      The Israeli Lobby in America must be eliminated by any means necessary!!! To do that we must take the Zionists out of positions of power in the US government by whatever means necessary. Anything else is suicide. They are killing us financially by compelling us to fight their wars of aggression, securing their oil supply, and manipulating the Federal Reserve to destroy the dollar. The Fed must also go regardless of what we have to do to get rid of it.

      Don't judge a person because of their ethnic identity, look at their actions. There are good, honest ethnic Jews in America just like there are good ethnic Arabs in America. The first requirement for being an American citizen should be loyalty to America above all other nations.

      Yes, I have Jewish friends. They are blind, have raised three kids that have all graduated from college and work, and have a Grandson they are currently raising. He owns his own vending business, even though he has a degree in British Lit, and She is a former paralegal for Social Security, and a former restaurant owner. I am proud to call them my friends. I said to Her recently that we need to get out of Iraq now and mind our own business. Her reply? "But what about all of the damage we have done to the people of Iraq"? "We owe them something in reparations."
  • fadeout, on 07/19/2008, -10/+12So you're mad at the Isrealis and not the Palestinians that train their kids to be suicide bombers and terrorists?
    • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -7/+9Fadeout, there are two key distinctions here:

      (1) The Israelis uniformly have a representative government that is funded in large by American taxpayer dollars. These dollars are being used to commit mass atrocities against the Palestinian people. On the other hand, the Palestinians are not universally represented by one body. They are co-represented by Fatah and Hamas. Currently, only Fatah receives US aid in a small amount ($6,800,000 million dollars per day compared to $300,000). Insofar as Hamas is concerned, they have not been alleged, by the Israeli government mind you, who has framed Arabs in the past (see Lavon Incident, USS Liberty), to have committed a suicide bombing since 2005. In fact, in 2004 38 Israelis were killed (minimal civilian casualties) and in 2005 10 Israelis were killed (2 civilians) by these facts. Compare these numbers to the statistics you find on that site and you will see who is, indeed, in the power seat. Which, incidentally, brings me to distinction #2.

      (2) Israel is empowered militarily, despite being a rich nation, by American citizens' hard earned tax dollars. It is in that power seat that they have shown little to no regard for Palestinian (and incidentally, Arab) life. It was Abraham Lincoln who said, "...if you want to see a man's true character, give him power." Well, Fadeout, as you may have heard, the rocket attacks, a major Israeli justification for committing massive atrocities, are really just crude bottle rockets that have caused insignificant damage to Israel and its citizens in comparison to the raids and strikes by the Israeli army. Indeed, even if Israel chooses to view these rockets as a real danger, meaning that they are hyping up the rockets' capabilities, then the question should be: why aren't they shooting the rockets out of the sky? They've had the technology to do so for years. I submitted this story to convince people to see where their money was going, and to call up their representatives to make sure that the aid stopped.

      On a side note, do not believe everything you read or hear on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, etc. Because the media is constantly pressured into showing pro-Israeli twists of the truth (read: lies), so there is always a counterpoint (the truth). You choose to call Palestinians terrorists, and that is a general label, mind you, but ask yourself this: are they "terrorizing" America? Are they "terrorizing" Japan? You're really suggesting that 4-5 million people left on a mass exodus from their homes in 1948 willingly, because of the influx of a few Zionist Jews?
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -8/+2Yeah, yeah. Only leftists like you have a grip on reality and really know what is happening in the Middle East.

        Typical intellectually arrogant professor who cannot hack it in the real world and has retreated to a classroom to whine and complain.

        Have you ever been to the Middle East?
      • BlackBob, on 07/19/2008, -1/+7@Spaza -

        Let me guess, you couldn't cut it in college because you already knew everything.
      • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -1/+3Yes, Spaz, many, many times. I have been to Iran, Lebanon, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE (well, Dubai), Jordan, and Egypt. The most depressing place of all was Israel, where EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING had a military theme to it. I saw little kids holding up assault rifles at a shooting range, training to shoot. There were monuments... old tanks that were abandoned. The people, for being part of a Jewish state, didn't even seem to be all that Jewish. It's ironic that such a secular people live on the land they claim based on a covenant between "Abraham and God" that is said to have entitled them to the land (over Palestinians and any other brown skinned person that may have lived there for 1400 years before them).
    • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -6/+8Also, it should be noted that a main condition on giving US aid to Israel was that Israel would not create and implement a nuclear arms program of their own. Despite this, Israel went ahead and now has 100-300 nukes by some estimates. Because of pressures by the Israeli lobby, the US government has not stopped the aid despite this condition being invariably broken. This is part of the reason why Israel plays the sheepish game of "nuclear ambiguity". Recall that when Secretary of Defense Gates, in one of his first press conferences, accidentally "confessed" to Israel's nuclear program in the most indirect of ways, he was railed at by many Israeli lobby activists and hushed up quite effectively.

      So, I ask, is this the government of the United States or Israel? If it's the latter, then why are we Americans paying taxes to it? Knowledge is power. Digg on :)
      • CptBuck, on 07/19/2008, -1/+2Whoever said that was a condition?
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -3/+1Sir, stop making up this cause and effect relationship.
      • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -0/+2The Proxmire Amendment of 1993, to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which the US is a signatory specifically bans "military assistance to any government that refuses to sign the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty and to allow inspection of its nuclear facilities".

        In addition, the aid to Israel violates the following laws under the same reasoning, or because of Israel's evidenced human rights violations (Amnesty International, BT'Selem, etc. etc. etc.), or because of Israel's spending on offensive military strikes with the money:

        2. 1994 US Arms Export Control Act (AECA)
        3. US Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 FAA
        4. 1977 Symington Amendment
        5. 1994 Glenn Amendment (also known as the Nuclear Proliferation Prevention Act, or NPPA)
        6. 1985 Pressler Amendment [section 620E(e) of the Foreign Assistance Act]
        7. Atomic Energy Act (Title 42, Chapter 23, Division A, Subchapter X, Sections 2153f, 2160b)
  • shamos, on 07/19/2008, -5/+10To anybody who is interested, this is a great video. nine minutes of what palestinians have to go through every single day for hours and hours in the Israeli checkpoints of the west bank.
    http://www.mahsanmilim.com/qalandiyareportHE.htm
    • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -9/+2Why not? Islamic terrorists hide among civilians all the time. Heck, some of them even use United Nations and Red Cross and Red Crescent vehicles to move supplies and bombs.

      I'd be doing the same thing.

      What you should be pointing out is the fact that Arabs in Israel enjoy more rights and freedom than do Arabs in Arab countries.

      But, then you might be tempted to change your anti-Israel thinking.
      • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -2/+2Spaza - nonsense. Have YOU ever stepped foot into the real Middle East?
      • JimmySpaza, on 07/19/2008, -1/+2"Have YOU ever stepped foot into the real Middle East?"

        Yes, both on a personal and profession basis. Some of the most beautiful country on earth, especially Greece. But, also some of the most depressing examples of governments and religions suppressing their own people (Syria, for example).

        Been there, done that dude. I've done far more than simply read a website or watch a news show on television.
  • mknoll1, on 07/19/2008, -5/+2WHat Arab ***** has agreed to help their Palestinian "Brothers". NONE. The arabs only care about the Palestinians when it helps them stir up hatred against Israel or the west. The rest of the time the arab ***** couldn't give a crap about the Palestinians. THe reason the casualties are so lopsided is that the Palestininas have not invested in any safety for their own people. Israel has bomb shelters, early warning signals,and other things you expect form a governemtent that sees their people as not disposable. The Palestinians on the other hand march to battle with the kids in front and fire rockets from civilian areas. THey even go so far as to cancel school when anticipating or provoking an atack so the news footage shows as many kids as possible on the streets when the attack occurs. When the israelies respond to the location where the missiles were fired from they can't help but have some collateral damage which would not happen if the PA took simple steps to protect its people. If the PA actually cared though they would fire from non populated areas in accord with the Geneva convention.

    The PA's inneffectiveness does not make it OK for them to terrorize their neighbor. In fact this lopsideness of these stats is probably intentional so that they can further claim victim status while simultaneously being the aggressor. Remember that the suicide bomb was invented and perfected by the Palestinians. I guess that is their big contribution to humanity.
  • coolkatz321, on 07/19/2008, -7/+2There's no such thing as a Palestinian, and never has been. I'm kind of sick of this bizarre distinction people keep making... Palestine has never been a country, and with the way things are going, it most likely never will be.

    The only way for killings like this to end is by Hamas to stop it's continued terrorism of Israel... of course, that will never happen. When Israel is hit, they have to strike back (I don't like giving that dose of American ignorance there, but it's true).
    • JagPop, on 07/20/2008, -0/+1Ahem. You have to watch which talking points you parrot. You just declared yourself a totalitarian.

      Note the Declaration Of Independence affirms:
      "governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."

      Whereas your talking point asserts the opposite, that the people that have resided in Palestine for generation upon generation, century upon century, are nonexistant and rightless. The totalitarian, such as yourself, believes that all worth of the human being derives from the state.

      It might interest you to look at this current item on Digg where the zionists, before they declared independence, referred to Palestine as..., you guessed it, "Palestine".
      http://digg.com/world_news/Jewish_guerrillas_told_ ...

      Also, is it not very ironic that your totalitarian talking point relies on the value, authority and RIGHTNESS of the genocidal Ottoman Empire!?
      So which people had the inherent right to rule in Palestine, the Palestinians or the Ottoman Empire? Or do you still insist that the people living there for generation upon generation did not even exist?

      Your second point about Hamas really makes you sound like an ignorant...ignorant...American(?).

  • bepart, on 07/19/2008, -1/+4what? the article is not found in upcoming, and if you search this article you will only find it when "Include Buried Stories" is checked.
    • beatles901, on 07/19/2008, -0/+1I'm not sure how Digg works. Do I have to proactively do something to get it into upcoming or should it have showed up on its own?
  • Silvbird, on 07/19/2008, -1/+5We have the same problem in uk, you have AIPAC, all main uk parties have their Friends of Israel MP's - so no matter who u vote for the Zionists win. Here, probably the best uk writer on the subjects documents the resurgence of the Conservative crew - these lot will be influencing ME policy after next election:

    Friends of Israel blind to the truth

    By Stuart Littlewood*

    19 July 2008

    Stuart Littlewood considers the blatant disregard for justice, human rights and basic norms of civilized behaviour shown by Israel’s stooges in the British Parliament, some of whom recently visited Israel and showed far more concern for Israeli terrorists than the Christian and Muslim civilians they terrorize.

    The real Zionist vision does not recognise any maps. It is a vision of a state without borders – a state that expands at all times according to its demographic, military and political power.
    This warning by the respected Israeli journalist and peace activist Uri Avnery should be impressed on every friend of Israel in the West.

    They are so gullible. The Jewish Chronicle last week reported how a group of intrepid Conservative MPs on a “Friends of Israel” junket experienced a “gunfire exchange" in Sderot. One of them said:

    ”We couldn’t see the gunfire, but could hear that it was close by." The exchange illustrated the “effects on quality of life that people in the south of Israel suffer on a daily basis. It shows that it is not a sustainable position for these areas to be constantly subject to rocket attacks and that Israel has the right to take appropriate actions to defend its citizens.” Urging Britons to visit Israel, he argued: “It’s very important to show their support for the only democracy in the area. I feel we have a duty and obligation to support Israel."
    http://www.redress.cc/global/slittlewood20080719
    • beatles901, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3It's funny how a little place with 5.5 million people can have such a stranglehold on representative governments in the UK and the US. You could say that they're "terrorizing" our political free will.
  • beatles901, on 07/20/2008, -0/+2Now know the truth about Iran's intentions to wipe Israel off the map! Ahmadinejad states, unequivocally, that Iran does not intend to attack Israel and has no plans to do so. Do not believe the mistranslations of his speech from 2002 that have been spread as fact. Now what reason does Israel have to attack Iran?

    http://digg.com/world_news/Iran_does_not_intend_to ...
    • MarkEarhart, on 07/20/2008, -1/+3This has been misinterpreted repeatedly as an excuse to attack Iran. Don't believe a word of it.
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