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- omegaredIX, on 03/17/2008, -14/+117Add this to the fact that this man headed up the 9-11 commissions report. Project For a New American Century (PNAC) called for the restructuring of the middle east in the US favor. The process of transformation,” the plan said, “is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” Well the traitors got their new pearl harbor and thousands of our brothers sisters died so they could initiate their plan, and millions more have died since their new pearl harbor. The Bush family crime syndicate had Zelikow run the 9-11 Commissions investigation where he hand picked everything that went into the document. Which means the white house hand picked everything that went into the report. The same white house that promotes the Bush doctrine of Pre-emptive war. We need an independent investigation of 9-11 and the criminals sitting in the white house must be impeached. I wonder if Rice will still be able to work for chevron? Please look up Irving Kristols a Neo-Conservative persuasion and you will know much more about the neo-con plan.
- americangoy, on 03/17/2008, -24/+65This needs a few thousand DIGGs.
Basically proves my blog correct. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -11/+42It was launched to protect U.S interest in the region (whether that is military, oil, religious, other economic reasons etc.. from Dubai to Kuwait to Israel), to assume Iraq or Iran for that matter being able to shoot a nuke or dirty bomb to U.S is a bit of a fantasy; especially more-so that no country would shoot that missile down before it would hit the states...
- roadtripguy, on 03/17/2008, -16/+42"Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.htm
What are we gaining from Israel that warrants that much foreign aid? How many people do you know that have actually asked that question? Ask your representative or senator this question. - Tangaroa, on 03/17/2008, -4/+25The epicenter of Wahabbi Islam was (and still is) Saudi Arabia. Iraq was officially secular, although Saddam started finding religion after 1991 as a way of discouraging the growing religious right from overthrowing him.
- Vowieotw, on 03/17/2008, -2/+21I think the war was started for a multitude of reasons, oil being just one of them
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -37/+53no, the war wasn't launched to protect Israel.
iraq war emerged, not because of oil, but because of a threat to america's economy - the threat: the "enemy" does not want oil to be traded in us dollars.
Saddam asked for Euros in 2000 - got removed. Ahmadinejad asking for Euros - being threatened with removal.
Since Iran now has a major influence on Iraq, US can not leave Iraq, because the moment we leave, Iraq will switch trading their oil from USD to EUR.
If Iraq switches, then the rest of the OPEC and Russia will switch too.
If oil is not traded in US dollars, then dollar is no longer a world currency. If dollar is no longer a world currency, then we can't buy anything with dollars. If we can't buy anything with dollars - we die from hunger, because we do not produce anything and it would take years until we start producing. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -9/+24you and me both....everyone thought i was nuts when I said this when Bush started this war...WOOHOO!...now lets see what FOX does with it...
- shortysmyname, on 03/17/2008, -4/+19"win-win scenario" ?
I wouldn't exactly call this war a win-win for anybody. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -12/+25You're all right. Iraq came to be in the service of a number of interests that all aligned. Oil and its handmaid Cheney wanted us in Iraq and pursuing control of the region. It never intended to leave, that's why we built the massive Green Zone fortress. Israel driving the NeoCons wanted another threat to its dominance eliminated, and what better way than to at the least allow 9/11 and at the very worst, assist it. Silverstein collected massive insurance on his buildings, he wanted it. The military-industrial complex makes obscene amounts of money in war, and they wanted it. Banking was threatened by regional moves towards non-dollar-denominated oil trading, that could not be allowed. Hussein knew too much, he could not be allowed. The boys behind the NAU and the coming NWO wanted a way to weaken the US, which had been growing too big for its britches in empire-building. Many parties wanted this, which is why it's been so obscenely successful. And will continue to be, given our sham election and controlled voting systems.
- pintomp3, on 03/17/2008, -4/+15how long until this is marked as inaccurate by the megaphone crew?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaphone_desktop_too ... - Terri84, on 03/17/2008, -15/+26So you basically just thought of every conspiracy theory you've ever heard of and said "Israel did it"
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -6/+17Protect Israel from an attack based on some skewed and mis-translated speech from Ahmadinejad?
How about the millions in Darfur being raped, murdered and butchered?? - cheekybastard, on 03/17/2008, -2/+13Now that the Soviet Union is no more, why does the US still need to spend money on Israel? They are not our "friends", the real world is not a primary school playground. They got nukes, a well trained and equipped military and a strong economy, leave them to make nice with their neighbors on their own (or not). They created the Palestinian problem, let them sort their own way out. Enough already.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -4/+14" So America makes the terrorist bastards pay for 9/11 and in return American oil companies get access to Iraq's oil fields and a big fat military base in the center of the Middle east. As a bonus for the Iraqi people, they will all share in the oil wealth, instead of just a few family members. "
Rofl - Cryptocracy, on 08/17/2008, -7/+17I think you are both right, there doesn't have to be only one reason to attack Iraq or Iran. I also heard a third reason not too long ago, that Iraq wouldn't accept a central bank like our wonderful Federal Reserve. and "our empire" is just the mechanism to usher in world tyranny.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -0/+9"If dollar is no longer a world currency, then we can't buy anything with dollars." It doesnt render that USD useless, it would mean that it would just take more money to buy somthing. Which would mean less money spent on other nations, we would have to come home and start building more stuff hear. And we would be more self sufficient.
- TimDigg, on 03/17/2008, -5/+13"There'd be too many people in government who would speak out; it would be a massive conspiracy that they'd never be able to keep the lid on."
The Manhattan project involved 37 installations throughout the country; at least 13 university laboratories; and 100,000 people
and it was kept SECRET the entire time...btw ever worked for the govt?...pays very well...yes well enough to keep a secret this big - morningmatters, on 03/17/2008, -5/+12Protecting Israel may have something to do with this as many of the Neocon leadership have dual US/Israel citizenships. However this maybe only one of the moral pretexts for this war. IMO the chief reason for this war still have to do with the economic prospects which specific US companies such as Haliburton could gain from the reconstruction of Iraq afterwards.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -4/+11forgot to mention that it would also make an excellent playground for testing... total control allows you for complete testing of whatever you please with absolutely no immediate objection and no external control or oversight. Iraq was a perfect lab rat.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -16/+234000 soldiers did not die to protect israel. they died to make sure that our empire continues to exploit other nations.
- GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7I'll tell you what definitely wasn't the reason: Bringing freedom and democracy.
- Tangaroa, on 03/17/2008, -3/+9It started out as a bribe for peace (Egypt gets money too) but these days the money goes straight back to the US arms industry. It's basically a bailout to keep American military tech companies alive because Russia and China outcompete them on price on the world market.
- deformation, on 03/17/2008, -1/+73) Removing Saddam would allow the US to introduce "freedom" to the Middle East.
Freedom? yah right, YOU and anyone who really thinks Iraq was invaded to bring "freedom" to its people is an ASS. a stupid ass with no brain cells or conscience whatsoever. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -11/+17It's scary that anyone would Digg you up--you forgot to mention that Israel is behind Roswell, the Bermuda Triangle, and perpetuating the "round earth" myth with their Jew-science.
- owenadam, on 03/17/2008, -2/+8You've posted that same link at least seven times in this thread already.
Stop it - Spottswood, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7No OPEC wont switch because of Saudi Arabia. The neocons are good friends with the Saudis.
- InetRoadkill, on 03/17/2008, -4/+10The goal was Israel plus establishing a permanent military presence in the center of the world's richest oil region. One thing about Bush -- his motives are transparent. The problem is that no one listened when all this ***** was just starting.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6There's no tactical advantage to occupying Darfur. Besides, what's going on there is largely because the Chinese want their oil and we don't want to ***** with the Chinese because they'll erase us from the face of the Earth if we piss them off.
- Tangaroa, on 03/17/2008, -17/+22On bombing the Liberty: it was either an accident or an "accident" like the US bombing the Chinese embassy that was relaying tactical info to the Serbs in 1999. The former is the official story, but I could see the latter happening because it was a sigint ship approaching the Egyptian-Israeli combat zone and the US had good relations with Egypt at the time and was ambivalent towards Israel. Whatever was the case, the US government didn't complain much and US-Israeli relations have improved since then.
Israel spies on the US: No *****, so does everybody else. It just seems to become a bigger issue when Israel gets caught than when China or France does.
Israel caused 9/11: Sorry, this is nuts. Osama's organization took credit and runs footage of the attack in its ads. The Israelis caught celebrating said they were glad that Israel's complaints about terrorism would finally be taken seriously because nobody could ignore terrorism after the large-scale attack on the US. Given the ***** Israel takes, where a mini-9/11 had been a weekly occurence over there for the past ten years and no one cared except to condemn Israel for trying to arrest the terrorists who were carrying out the attacks, I find their explanation credible.
Israel shot JFK: This is ***** nuts. - spaceman77, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7I don't believe 9/11 is a "massive" conspiracy.
I too thought it was nuts until I devoted weeks of research to it.
The official story is incomplete and lacks a lot of details. Any attempt to get the government to fill in the holes in the official story with more information is met with stonewalling behaviour.
Take a look at the "Clinton Chronicles" on Google video. That was a conspiracy that succeeded in staying secret (err sort of!) - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5Kuwait has been taking pounds sterling for years.
- Sinns, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5How do the Iraqi people benefit from the American oil companies getting access to Iraq's oil fields?
Put down your Jesus pipe and listen to reason for a change. - someguy92, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6WTF!?!?
Dugg for being the most elaborate rick roll ever.
Had to switch desktops and kill firefox to stop it! - GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -4/+9Tangaroa: Planes did fly into the buildings.
There is a lot of crazy crap mixed up with the not so crazy crap. This is the process of disinformation. If you talk about anything related to these matters you automatically believe in Reptillians or 'no jetliners' theories or whatever.
The fact is that tearing the truth out of the official lie and all the conspiracy bunk is quite a task, but not impossible. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -3/+8"iraq war emerged, not because of oil, but because of a threat to america's economy"
.....oh the irony. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7
1) No link to anyone in Iraq. Afghanistan (YES) Iraq (NO)
2) So, they ignored the mandates... let's invade! Idiot.
3) You put "FREEDOM" in quotes. Haha, funny *****. Free from what? Breathing?
4) OIL? Interesting comment coming from a NewCon.
So America makes the - innocent people - pay for 9/11 and in return American oil companies get access to Iraq's oil fields and a big fat military base in the center of the Middle east. As a bonus for the Iraqi people, they will all share in the oil - Death - , instead of just a few family members.
That's called a win-win scenario. You are on crack bitch. Stop being such a ***** idiot while you're still young.
Cost of the Iraq War in lives lost:
http://www.infoshout.com/
Money Spent: 3 Trillion Dollars (3,000,000,000,000.00)*
*Doesn't include interest
I replaced a few words in your closing statement to make it accurate and much more intelligent. - Idiggapony, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6Oh yeah, good point. Never mind, carry on everyone.
- aserer511, on 03/17/2008, -3/+8I am hoping to GOD this is false, in the name of the reputation of american foreign policy for AGES to come
- chi1thook, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6There was never trillions of dollars of american equipment given to israel and those F-15's and F-16's are stripped of internal american components on the moment of delivery and the only thing american about those F-15's and F-16's are the airframe.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -3/+8Secret Service in Ruby's strip club drinking, CIA in the sewers, Mafia on the knoll and LBJ just waiting and a lone gun man with a magic bullet who used to work on the secret Japanese base where U2 planes flew from to over spy the USSR, and was a communist defector who spoke flawless Russian and hung out with known CIA agents in rented offices in New Orleans, just happen to shoot the president out of the blue for no reason whatsoever. lol
I think your the only person in the world that doesnt know what happened to JFK. - inactive, on 03/17/2008, -9/+14 Call them Zionists or Jewish bankers or whatever but one thing is clear, they are the real power in America. They dominate the production of our currency, our media, our schools, everything of importance. "To truly tell where power lies you need only ask who you can't criticize." You can certainly criticize crusty old white men and WASP's so that makes you wonder who is really calling the shots.
- inactive, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6He lied about having WMDs to keep Iran at bay you twit. I guess it was a good bluff as it fooled most, even though we had evidence he didn't have them but ignored it.
- GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6Yes, because blaming Israel is the same as blaming the Jews.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy - GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5Iraq and Afghanistan now both have a central banking system in place. Iran does not...yet.
Islamic religions forbid the practice of central banking because of it's tendency to exploit the populace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking - GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6Watch 9/11: Press for Truth.
Zelikow was a key player in white-washing the 911 commission report. The 9/11 families repeatedly and publicly asked Zelikow to step down from this position, and he refused. The 9/11 families have since maintained that the majority of the questions they have regarding 9/11 have never been properly answered.
This is a speech by the mother of one of the 9/11 victims:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JtsLZM8Ktx4 - cidman2001, on 03/17/2008, -3/+7The answer is D) All of the Above....The whole war was based on all of the reasons (and probably more) that people have discussed, but you 911 conspiracy theorists are all nuts. Shouldn't you be looking for Bigfoot or something?
- GhostyBoy, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6Beauty is skin deep but ugly goes all the way to the bone.
- Spottswood, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5god damn it
- CoolWind, on 03/17/2008, -3/+7It's possible that the US knew 9/11 was going to happen and intentionally didn't act to prevent it. In that case only a few people would have known about it. In fact, it's clear that Condoleeza chose to ignore US intelligence.
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