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- neuralzen, on 11/07/2007, -15/+228It isn't propaganda, its the truth of the cost of this war. Do you think the guy holding his dead child thought the photo that was taken would be a shot of propaganda, or a stark and harrowing reminder of the intense and irrevocable suffering we are causing for rich men's agenda's? If we won't even look at the horror we are behind, and we *are* behind it, then we must really be monsters lost in the comforts of TV glamor.
- yubman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+159Link to the gallery:
http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2005/08/23/iraq_gallery/iraq.html - nepawoods, on 10/11/2007, -16/+169war is hell
- ChileanGoD, on 10/11/2007, -15/+148We're still babarians. Internet, International space station, Super computers....*****... with this still going on we are still primitive cavemen.
- KingAdrock, on 10/11/2007, -10/+88I thought I was desensitized but some of those photos really shook me. wow
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -4/+77Unseen by those without the internet.
- tmanaussie, on 10/11/2007, -10/+80I wish the American people would take back their country.
- FadieZ, on 10/11/2007, -19/+87mac, do you mean to tell me that the picture of the dead child in the second picture, or the dead baby didn't hit you as hard?
I know this is the wrong time to bring up this topic but I've noticed that Americans seem to value innocent American lives far more than innocent Iraqi lives, or mostly any other lives for that matter.
Look, 9/11 was bad, I agree, but 5 years later we're still hearing about it. Remember the tsunami in Indonesia that killed almost a million? Haven't heard about that in a while, and it was much more recent news. I'm just saying that if the soldiers valued the lives of the Iraqis as much as they valued their own, maybe there wouldn't be so many casualties over there.
*Prepares to get dugg down* - Emulsifide, on 10/11/2007, -15/+76Bring our troops home.
- leszek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+61Those images are horrible, but they are necessary.
Each day we hear in the news the death of people in some dramatic events.
3 death for this, 12 death for that, ...
But we are so used to it, that for us it is only numbers that you can count and make statistics ...
Each one of these persons had a life, a family, people who loved them.
We need those images to remind us that the war is not a game, that these deaths are very real and we should do everything to avoid them. - spideyman, on 10/11/2007, -6/+59That sucks. I doubt many Iraqi's want us to be occupying their country any more than a host of us Americans want us to. Osama and his band were behind 9/11.....not Iraq. We shouldn't be there.
- domirep, on 10/11/2007, -15/+66What did you think war looked like?
- TehSwat, on 10/11/2007, -20/+71Why the hell is the US there? What's the point? By the time this war ends, millions of citizens will be dead, and thousands more American and Nato troops.
- laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+41So you're saying the only way to recruit for this war is deception? The omission of truth is deception, you know.
- Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -9/+44I listened to "Imagine" today and imagined a better world that can be. I came to the realization that it's not the people of all the countries of the world that hate each other or want to afflict harm and death on others. It's their governments. Their governments paint another people as an "enemy" and then manipulate public opinion through false propaganda. The real evil of this planet are corrupt governments and the corporations that buy its officials off. It is they who create wars on ***** reasons and it's they who create poverty and hardship for their people.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace - JKAL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37As most diggers will understand "if there is no picture it did not happen", this is frightenly used in real life to hide the real horrors of a real war.
"Yes!" to all those loosers who are trying to use sarcasm asking "oh, is war violent? or do people die in war?", that is not the point the point is that these images are hidden from the masses to hide how much this LIE is actually costing us. Many brave young men and innocent people are dying due to lies. This is not comming from a treehugger or a peace loving lefty! this is about doing what is in the best interests of a GREAT Nation!, this war is not that, it is more to do about destroying the foundations of a great nation to server the purposes of a small group of criminals to build unimginable wealth at the same time giving them more power and more of your rights. do some research! before posting.
May the founding fathers' ideals be not forgotten for the few.
The constitution is NOT just a "god damn piece of paper"! - ryancalderoni, on 10/11/2007, -25/+56This is NOT the unseen war. What did you think war was going to look like?!!!
- Xeth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+38The pic of the suicide bomber was more horrifying than I ever imagined. That picture should be published (hell, even dropped as leaflets) so that the terrorists will have a harder time recruiting young people for their martyrdom missions.
- MrCobaltBlue, on 10/11/2007, -4/+32I completely agree, I wish our nightly news wasn't so censored. Do you think the war would've lasted this long if these shots were shown every night as Mom, Pop and little Johnny cut their apple pie?
- RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29Everyone should see these photos. Most people here don't realize that there are real people behind the statistics; our own servicemen along with innocent men women and children. These photos make any feeling person thoroughly disgusted that this country started a war on ***** grounds that has caused so much physical and emotional pain over here as well as over there.
- macbookpromat, on 10/11/2007, -10/+32Man the one pic of the soldier in full uniform, dead in the room really ***** me up. I'm not even american but that is just messed.
- laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27The Baby Boomers WERE exposed to that - every night - in the form of watching dead Vietnamese being bulldozed into pits and listening to the death tolls. The reason for having a press is to keep the citizenry (the 'bosses') aware of what politicians (the 'servants') are up to.
It is, in fact, that Bush's regime wants to cover this up. When your country is engaged in wars of aggression, you can't expect responsible citizens to settle for sanitized news. People are being murdered - of course it's ugly. Not talking about it is not an option. - uselessexpert, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22My brother has been in Irag and Afghanistan...and he has pictures that none of those have nothing on.
Like nepawoods said... WAR IS HELL... - miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22I think you made the point--censor the reality to keep an artifical morale high--and keep support for an occupation. America says they won the war--but they can't win the peace!
- msarge, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Geez, picture of a head, two limbs, on top of a pile of flesh disturbed me.
- Darkhowling91, on 10/11/2007, -30/+43It's not that Bush wants to cover up this stuff, its just that the media censors stuff like this. Great example is when they blurred out the dead body on the deadliest catch. Parent's dont want there kids flipping on the news and seeing gory images, imagine if you we're exposed to that as a kid rather then The Rug Rats or Angry Beavers.
- arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19Dear Twinky,
USMC, now law enforcement and just let me say, these photos don't show the half of it. You've never been combat or killed anyone have you? Please Shut the ***** up until you do.
Propaganda my aching ass.
Another Neocon dittohead. - miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I wish they'd go back to their own country!
- ruley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10It seems the people who want to keep us in iraq haven't seen enough.
- RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Oh yeah, anyone who sees meaning in a song about peace and love is a dirty hippie. Come on, are you all that attached to your god damn stereotypes?!
- Franki3B, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I have to agree those are very graphic.. I by no means underestimate what war looks like or the results from it, but some of those are still hard to look at.
- smcavoy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12A number that's displayed on a TV screen and increases daily.
- azzageddi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The former has to happen before the latter can.
- SuperCujo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9A death is just a number. Without images to back it up, no one really understands how these soldiers are dying.
And anyway, where is the death toll of civilians killed in this conflict going to be shown every night? The people you went to free from their dictator... Oh, thats right, we never will. - Osjpr, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13And hell is a choice. You either do Abu Ghraib/My Lai, or do not do it.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8You're ***** ignorant. Google "Production sharing agreements" and you'll see just how much oil the big oil co's are essentially stealing.
Did you think the oil was going to be cheap, silly consumer? No, it's to ensure ever higher profits.
Pull your head out please. - arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Republicans are not Neocons smartass. I'm a republican, If you'll pull your thumbs out long enough to READ the statement I made, you'd find I'm NOT berating my fallen brothers, it's the armchair noloads that spout 'propaganda' when ever photos of what combat is actually like are published.
I'm sorry for the loss of your friends, I've served many tours in various deployments and operations in my career, and I've lost a number close to me. Suffice to say, I've earned the right to speak my mind about a subject I'M VERY familiar with.
Ease up on the knee jerk reactions and come back after life's kicked you around a while.
AG - crazybugger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8This is nothing. When USA nuked Japan, they did not allow the japanese to show the affects of nuke on humans. The pictures are so gori, that u will immediately puke.
- Pilot85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I read a lot of "this is propaganda", "well of course they censor these, there's no point in showing them" statements. The point of these pictures are the images they capture! If an entire nation is willing to go to war, to CAUSE scenes like the ones shown, every day, then they should most certainly have the fortitude to OBSERVE the results. I don't care how you spin it, these images show the brutal realities of war. If what we are "fighting for" isn't worth the cost you can see, then we absolutely should reconsider our current situation. Otherwise, we're all just talking out our asses, aren't we?
- Ezekiel25:17, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9I want people to see the cost of war and have these images embedded into their minds so we don't take away from the hell that war is. Then next time we want to go into a war we might just stop and ask ourselves if it is worth the cost.
- shaelen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6This isn't a war, it's an occupation.
- Kontra8, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7If U.S. were occupied by some other country and people from that country were saying how they understand that their government don't want to show pictures of war to keep morale high what would you say to that? Your words come too easy only because it is not happening to you in your country where you live so you allow yourself to be disconnected from it. And that's exactly the purpose of these photographs... to connect.
- RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7What are we there for in your opinion then?
Gas is $3.00 a gallon because the douche bags running the oil companies are ***** us over and making huge profits.
I don't think that is why we are over there either btw. - TTwoA, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12We're not there to STEAL their oil, we're there to CONTROL it. Once we get control, oil prices will not go down, but they'll probably go even higher. That's the golden rule of oil production: low production = high prices. We're there to control it and limit production for maximum profits.
- obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The oil is being stolen, but "we" (as in you and I) are not the ones stealing it. American foreign policy has become a matter of using the military to put US and international corporations in a place to make money from and gain interest over this dwindling resource. You'd think the oil companies would give us a discount for letting them use our military like that, but you would be wrong. Instead we get to pay for the cost of putting them in such a prime business spot. You and I get saddled with debt from the war and gas prices that don't ever move downward. Demand stays high and the oil companies make record profits.
- CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -8/+14And most diggers are inexperienced and naive enough to fall for it.
When does school start again? - CletusJones, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11It could also spare the victim's family the unimaginable horror of seeing pictures or video of their loved one's bodies' destroyed.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11oh, i thought this wasn't a "war" remember? we already won - mission accomplished - that is the disconnect
- ryodoan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5the thing that aggravated me there, was that it was an "alleged" suicide bomber. I don't know much about suicide bombs, but when their entire torso is missing...
- swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5i can't tell if you are being sarcastic or if you actually don't know that you just described the Army's policy re: the media
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