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IRAQ'S UNSEEN WAR: The Photos Washington Doesn't Want You To See

spiegel.de — This is a war the Bush administration does not want Americans to see. From the beginning, the U.S. government has attempted to censor information about the Iraq war, prohibiting photographs of the coffins of U.S. troops returning home and refusing as a matter of policy to keep track of the number of Iraqis who have been killed....

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  • yubman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+159Link to the gallery:
    http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2005/08/23/iraq_gallery/iraq.html
    • macbookpromat, on 10/11/2007, -10/+32Man the one pic of the soldier in full uniform, dead in the room really ***** me up. I'm not even american but that is just messed.
      • CletusJones, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4I just looked at it for like 5 minutes. It's terrible.
    • Xeth, on 10/11/2007, -9/+38The pic of the suicide bomber was more horrifying than I ever imagined. That picture should be published (hell, even dropped as leaflets) so that the terrorists will have a harder time recruiting young people for their martyrdom missions.
      • orangemarmalade, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Or maybe it should be shown around the world so we get our soldiers out of Iraq and stop this madness
      • xrenjrvt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The only way to stop suicide bombers is to get the ***** out of their country.
    • FadieZ, on 10/11/2007, -19/+87mac, do you mean to tell me that the picture of the dead child in the second picture, or the dead baby didn't hit you as hard?

      I know this is the wrong time to bring up this topic but I've noticed that Americans seem to value innocent American lives far more than innocent Iraqi lives, or mostly any other lives for that matter.

      Look, 9/11 was bad, I agree, but 5 years later we're still hearing about it. Remember the tsunami in Indonesia that killed almost a million? Haven't heard about that in a while, and it was much more recent news. I'm just saying that if the soldiers valued the lives of the Iraqis as much as they valued their own, maybe there wouldn't be so many casualties over there.

      *Prepares to get dugg down*
      • Knucklecallus, on 10/11/2007, -21/+1digg down
        • ilikesboobs, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9FadieZ,

          The picture of the dead girl did not effect me as much because she looks very peaceful and calm. Now I don't know if she suffered and was in pain before she died but that picture just does not send out that message. Her picture hurt me but it did not have the same effect as the one of the dead soldier. That picture of the soldier did brought up more painful feeling for me. Close buddy of mine is in the Marines and he will be leaving for Iraq soon, and imagining that happening to him hurt in a different way.

          Americans will value American lives more just like Iraqis will value Iraqi live more. Now this description does not fit for everyone. I remeber seeing people cheering in other countries when the WTC was attacked, and I'm pretty sure there are Americans out there who cheer when they see a dead Iraqi, insurgent or a civilian. But there are others out there that do value human life, that do feel that pain when they see death no matter what their nationality is.

          We don't hear much about the WTC attacks anymore other then the sparse conspiracy theories. but we do get a constant stream of new about Iraq because its still going on today. The tsunami went and people learned to put it aside, they still remember but it wasn't and ongoing event like in Iraq where people die everyday.

          And please don't stereotype every soldier in that all of them hate the Iraqis because I'm sure there are plenty of soldiers out there who do not want to kill innocent people there. But it's hard for them because the enemy they fight are the same color and blood and the innocent they are suppose to defend. It makes their life a lot harder. Its not ok to have so much innocent civilian deaths but remember the soldiers are their to do a job for the government they did not sign up for the service to go kill every single Iraqi they see.
          • gbro, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3@FadieZ

            Way to equate a natural disaster with a war. Good job!
      • dcshiderly, on 10/11/2007, -12/+0There's a reason you don't hear about natural disasters like that. Those people decided to live near the sea, and she is a harsh mistress. Does the rest of the world still hear about the N.O. Katrina disaster? Nope.
        • m1tch37, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Katrina: 1,836
          2004 Indian Ocean earthquake: 229,866
          Hmm...
          • Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -0/+1@ dcshiderly (why can't I reply to your post directly like m1tch37 did?)

            Yes, Katrina was in the foreign press for a while, along with the ensuing FEMA debacle.
      • ewap8, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Americans always value American lives. That's what is messed up about the country. The rest of the world is irrelevant. At least it is to the majority of the population, and more importantly, to the government.
      • Elephant789, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4FadieZ, if I could digg you up more than once, I would.
    • Knucklecallus, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3i feel extremely bad for this, but the order in which the photographs hit me the hardest was this: 1. the younger iraqi citizen reaching for help 2. the dead american soldier 3. the older hurt iraqi citizen 4. the baby 5. the 6 year old girl 7. the dead insurgent 8. the dead suicide bomber, and 9. the morgue.

      1-3 all have this incredible mixture of sadness, pain, insensitivity, and to some extent beauty. they all are incredible pictures, but these 3 hit me the hardest.
      • spyrochaete, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, get used to the picture of the dead American soldier. More US soldiers have died in Iraq than civilians died in 9/11. That one dead soldier in the picture had a lifetime of stories to tell and a family. He was ambushed in a civilian's house by two insurgents who ran off and got away with their crime. This is one story of THOUSANDS. War is very, very sad. What a ***** waste.
    • jrstinkfish, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2 FadieZ:
      Read macbookpromat's message carefully: "I'm not even american...". Nice generalization though. Hey guess what, we're also all fat and drive SUVs!
    • crazybugger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8This is nothing. When USA nuked Japan, they did not allow the japanese to show the affects of nuke on humans. The pictures are so gori, that u will immediately puke.
    • DigiRaven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I love how these stories say photos that washington doesn't want us to see but yet here they are. go figure. If they didn't want this to be seen I'm sure they would find ways like the chinese to suppress the info.
    • gmason08, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2On a related note this new comment system still sucks big time and I will never use the "reply" button except for the purpose of pointing out how this new system sucks.
    • chicaneuk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Man.. that was some tough viewing.. the suicide bomber pic was just.. ugh.
  • nepawoods, on 10/11/2007, -16/+169war is hell
    • ruley, on 10/11/2007, -20/+4This is Armageddon.
      • ShrimpCrackers, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The proper response is...

        "War... War never changes...."
    • Osjpr, on 10/11/2007, -6/+13And hell is a choice. You either do Abu Ghraib/My Lai, or do not do it.
      • aidave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2"Does hell exist on Earth? Yes. I wont live in it." David Mamet
      • ostracize, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2There's a skewed set of choices. You either Final Solution/al-Anfal Campaign, or do not do it.

        War is never executed as cleanly as it should (Abu Gharaib/My Lai) but it is often necessary when faced with the alternatives. We have often made it worse by refusing to go to war (Darfur, Pol Pot, Rwanda, etc.)
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -12/+11What exactly, is your point? That it's OK? If war is hell then being stuck in this country with people that are so quick to quip some lame soundbyte is limbo.

      War has to change, preferably by going away, but mostly by keeping our ***** noses out of the world's affairs. Set up a "safe zone" and perhaps help those that want the hell out of the country but let those that do wish to stay battle their own way for supremacy. It isn't like we're putting in a secular government so any theocratic rule that may arise would have happened regardless.
    • caketank, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2How pat.
    • boxcuttastyle, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6War is hell for who? The first picture is of a guy in jogging pants and sneakers. The only thing he's toting now is a head full of lead. They tagged the picture as him being a "suspected insurgent." Based on what I see, I 'suspect' he was jogging.

      The only 'insurgent' I see are a couple of Marines decked out in battle gear and body armor.
      • boxcuttastyle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Did you miss the part about "suspected"? Seems that 'innocent until proven guilty' only works for American politicians nowadays, everyone one else in the world is *****.
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2"is Peace", is what you meant to say.
    • goodoldharris, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I think everyone can see that war is hell from the photos. Unfortunately, war is also the manipulation of public opinion by the government. Hence the government and military spend a lot of money and effort on measures that minimize this kind of coverage and the attention given to it. You can shrug off photos like this by saying war is hell, but you're missing the point completely.
      • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1... and then there's the other propaganda, trying to sway public opinion against the war, which in a way is what's caused the war to last so long. If Iraqis knew that turning against the Insurgents would get the insurgents OUT of IRAQ (yes, most of them are NOT Iraqis) then we'd be quicker to leave as well. But no, propagandists want the war to continue and will keep showing out of context images to sway for MORE blood.
        • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That's the most retarded logic I have ever heard in my life.
    • Castronaut, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1How trite.
    • AnnaBay21, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1death is horrifying
    • SuperCUBE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Watching Saving Private Ryan can teach that in so many ways.
      • labmouse42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1One of my good friends told me this
        "If I would have seen Saving Private Ryan instead of John Wayne movies as a kid, I never would have joined the military"
  • twinklyJesus, on 11/07/2007, -118/+28For the most part, the government never shows bodies of dead US servicemen. As for the rest of the photos, dead suicide bombers and propaganda photos of babies killed by insurgents or as collateral damage, as a whole aren't shown on American TV either. The only reason not to show dead insurgents would be to spare the public from the gore. It has nothing to do with hiding it, otherwise.

    This is propaganda by people trying to affect public opinion in the US.
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -8/+14And most diggers are inexperienced and naive enough to fall for it.

      When does school start again?
    • arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -7/+19Dear Twinky,

      USMC, now law enforcement and just let me say, these photos don't show the half of it. You've never been combat or killed anyone have you? Please Shut the ***** up until you do.

      Propaganda my aching ass.

      Another Neocon dittohead.
      • thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5Award for ***** comment of the day goes to you. I have many friends serving their 2nd term in Iraq and Have lost 2 to this war. All of them are Republicans. In fact most of the people who enroll in the US services are Republican.
        • arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10Republicans are not Neocons smartass. I'm a republican, If you'll pull your thumbs out long enough to READ the statement I made, you'd find I'm NOT berating my fallen brothers, it's the armchair noloads that spout 'propaganda' when ever photos of what combat is actually like are published.

          I'm sorry for the loss of your friends, I've served many tours in various deployments and operations in my career, and I've lost a number close to me. Suffice to say, I've earned the right to speak my mind about a subject I'M VERY familiar with.

          Ease up on the knee jerk reactions and come back after life's kicked you around a while.

          AG
        • thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I'm sorry for the attack. This is a subject that is close to me though and I hate when people hate Republicans because it's the cool thing to do on digg. I apologize. Also, thank you for your services to this country. I misinterpreted your post.

          And to aJew, yes the US services house are majority Republican. Look it up.
        • goffy59, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Well I dont care who has done or killed what, but I dont beleive in war. The only reason we have wars is for money and because a few people have arguments sometimes, and then they drag along all the other people, and basically while our government bitches over little stupid *****, I have to fight for them if they run out of soldiers to send to their deaths. Over what? Are the terrorists gonna kill us lol?? You mean are the Iraqi's going to buy a bunch of air planes, fly over the white house and drop soldiers down from helocopters??? I think not. Whatever though, I guess I dont know ***** because I never felt the "enjoyment" of shooting someones head to the floor. Oh it might even be more cool then a video game. Like cooler then Americas Army? (while jack thompson bitches about video games, its alright the americas army is a game made to recruit people into real wars, where real dad bodies spawn and fall). I cant beleive my friend on digg dugg the parent post. Makes me sick. If this is propganda, it cant be any worse then the "*****" our government feeds us through controlled news. Hey the military is a job, nothing else. I wouldnt be proud to say I served 4 years in Iraq because it was an illegal war that didn't have any object at all.. except our current presidents secret agenda. So I dont give a ***** if you fight in Iraq, you really dont deserve ANY respect what so ever. I didint ask you, or need you to be there. While military men diss on citizens, they fail to realise they are only their to protect us/the country. The military is for the people who dont ask questions and people who dont care either way. Or maybe they do get a few kicks for being called a hero/etc. I know Im cynical. My parents both served 14 years in the air force on reserves. So I reserve the right to say, Im not just some hippie speaking bad against the military, just 90% of all the assholes in the military(that ive met). Soldiers dont think much about politics because its hard when you have bullets flying at you, but at the same time; WHY would I want these men fighting for me when they clearly have no sense of wrong or right, when the only rules they follow are their commanding officers who will stop at nothing to get whatever they need done. I wont even spell check this because I dont think anyone will read it. But thats my 2 cents.
        • LeadOffMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@goffy59

          You ungrateful di-k.
      • twinklyJesus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1archangelgabriel:
        You've never seen combat. You weren't in the Marines and you aren't a cop. You are a BS artist and a liar.

        I do not watch Fox News, nor am I interested in listening to Limbaugh or Hannity.

        I do know why they don't show certain things on US tv. IF you had been in combat and had been in the Marines, the last thing you would want for the family of another Marine, is for them to see their loved one dead on the news. You are a liar, masquerading as the thing you hate and want to harm, a member of the US Military.

        You make me sick.

    • danarama, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4start talking numbers. millions of innocent iraqis have been killed directly or indirectly by american and coalition forces since the first war. yeah i said it.
      • goffy59, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Its a damn shame too. I think people with ***** Morales dugg you down because makes you ask yourself "what was American doing in Iraq again? Oh right the terrorists... I think....ahh oh well". Its not acceptable that many Iraqi's were killed because of Americans. And the ignorant Americans say, well the people were treated horribly; even though less people died under Saddam's ruling. Does that tell you something?? We could of avoided this and could of saved all the "wasted" money "stolen" from our government to fight this illegal war. I know a nice way to use those words. Whatever though.... dont forget to download americas army, good way to get recruited into the military. Also teaches you how to kill someone and what to do when its happening if things get tricky. Lol
      • LeadOffMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Keep track of the dead Iraqi's so long as you keep score of how many are killed by the insurgents. I guarrantee you that is how most of them have died.
    • TheG2, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8And Digg once again fails to understand the basics of media during wartime.

      TwinklyJesus is correct regardless of his negative digg status, this practice of not showing caskets goes way back, as to showing bombers and insurgency deaths, why immortalize an enemy that would embrace martyrdom.

      Just because we don't agree with the conspiracy theories or the mob-mentality of Digg doesn't make us a Neo-conservative, get a grip.
      • goffy59, on 10/11/2007, -9/+1conspiracy theories? What conspiracy theories. Until you beloved government shows me 20 minutes of the pentagon video, maybe I wont believe in such "theory". They do have footage, they just don't want to show everyone a cruise missile hit the pentagon. And that the attack was over hyped to start illegal wire tapping and illegal war. The only way you will shake my belief of this, is if you get our government to show me a 20 minute video.. and no, not the 3 frame piece of ***** they gave us. In fact that 3 frames of the pentagon attack actually showed something that looked more like a cruise missile then a plane. So ***** you VERY MUCH with conspiracy theory you ***** sheep. Go back to your stable. I'm not really into the whole WTC stuff, but the pentagon was definitely fishy.
      • LeadOffMan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@goffy59

        "I'm not really into the whole WTC stuff"

        Huh?
    • evlpanda, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7I'd like to see number of Iraqis killed/year (by bomb, bullet, murdered etc) while Saddam was in power versus number killed/year since US occupation. Amazing how one man could keep Iraq under control a whole lot better than the combined might of the US military/government.
      • rollem, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1That study has been done, repeated and independently verified. The numbers don't agree with what the administration want to hear and it was first released right before the 2004 election, so it was underreported in an effort not to seem "biased" by the media since the numbers were so high. Yes, the study compared death rates under Saddam to the death rates since the invasion.
      • urik88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's because we're democratic and humans. Everyone could shoot someone if he does something that may go against the government.
        That's the price to pay for freedom
    • Monstradamus, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6The public isn't shown these pictures because these are pictures of war, not of victory.
    • flaknugget, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Hiding anything from Americans about a war it is involved in is a disservice.

      This is what is going on, and if Americans don't know it, then they can't make informed decisions about it.
    • JimmyRyan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1war is war. If it is as necessary as they seem to think it is in Washington we shouldn't feel ashamed to post ANYTHING about it on TV. Its sickening that we can't even face what we have done over there. If we were forced to there would be no patience anymore for the people in charge.
  • borninda818, on 11/07/2007, -27/+20not new...same thing happened with bush's dad in his gulf war. ***** Bushes.
    • jgtg32a, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1I do all the time actually
    • StormyAaron, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Uh No, we never invaded Iraq in the first gulf war, hell this is still the first gulf war, we were at a cease fire with Iraq "after the first gulf war", Saddam violated the cease fire by now allowing the UN inspectors in to the sites. Digg me down if you may, yet if you look in to the treaties and history of it, it is true.
    • aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Not Every Bush kills babies.
      • MagicToenail, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1what?
      • jvnane, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2not any kill babies
        • aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The article was blaming Bush for the war that does kill babies.

          I happen to have the damn last name...to distinguish myself from the other Bush I want to make it clear that the Bush family doesn't all do this.
  • LethalAmbition, on 11/07/2007, -46/+32I don't get this article. I'm all for ending the war, but what this article is saying is that pictures of soldier's limbs being torn off, people bleeding to death, houses blowing up with people in them, snipers shooting other people in the head, is something that should be widely publicized. All this stuff comes with a special event we tend to call war, and as such should be of no surprise to anyone. That a government is censoring these pictures is natural because they want to keep morale high. How eager do you think an 18 year old will be to join a war if they are flashed pictures of people's legs flying off every day? Not too eager, I bet you.
    • laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+41So you're saying the only way to recruit for this war is deception? The omission of truth is deception, you know.
      • LethalAmbition, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5I'm just saying that you can't call it deception. Deception would be the government saying that the war is being fought with rubber bullets, or the public believing that it's being fought with rubber bullets and the government not doing anything to prove them wrong. Everyone knows what war entails. Just because a government is not constantly reminding its people of what its contents are does not mean that it's deceiving it's people.

        I'm looking at this through a general perspective, not necessarily the war in Iraq.
      • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2What omission? It's called respect for the families of the dead soldiers you moron. You get a running count on the news every day. It's no secret how many soldiers are coming back in coffins. Unless you think NO ONE is noticing the constant death tool. Why do you want to turn the pain and misery of these men and women into a political tool?
      • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Showing the pain and misery of these men and women to the citizens of the country that's causing it is respecting and validating their pain. Sweeping it under the carpet and hoping that it doesn't inconvenience anyone or turn any stomachs means they continue to suffer without respect.
    • willowreed, on 10/11/2007, -15/+2hey Lethal, I like your post.
    • miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -5/+22I think you made the point--censor the reality to keep an artifical morale high--and keep support for an occupation. America says they won the war--but they can't win the peace!


      • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2ok this is the dumbest post I've read so far. It's pretty telling that you get 8 diggs on this garbage.
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I don't think 18 year olds should be the cannon fodder of war personally, and find it insulting that those with no ability to legally change the system are the ones called to fight wars by old men who are decades past whatever life they may have lived as youths themselves. In any case, I think that's why I want these images shown, people can't ignore them. Less idiots get gung ho about going to fight and kill people doesn't seem bad to me. Besides, why should the government have any say in what media is shown to people? That sounds like censorship to me...

      Do you know what the first major photograph was? It was a picture of the dead from the civil war. That photograph changed opinions for decades to come. We need that kind of thing, we need to have people stop living in constant unknowing of what their government is doing, we need people to not be ignorant of what is going on. As it is, most people can live without ever seeing a single thing about war other than watered down reports with vague desert backdrops. By about a minute in, it's back to the entertainment, television shows, or cult-like consumerism. Ignore ignore ignore, that's what every generation since the baby boomers have been doing anyway.
    • Kontra8, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7If U.S. were occupied by some other country and people from that country were saying how they understand that their government don't want to show pictures of war to keep morale high what would you say to that? Your words come too easy only because it is not happening to you in your country where you live so you allow yourself to be disconnected from it. And that's exactly the purpose of these photographs... to connect.
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So you're saying people would lose their stomach for war if they actually had to look at pictures of what happens in the war? So, hmm...hold on, I just had an idea. Maybe we shouldn't be at war then.
  • neuralzen, on 11/07/2007, -15/+228It isn't propaganda, its the truth of the cost of this war. Do you think the guy holding his dead child thought the photo that was taken would be a shot of propaganda, or a stark and harrowing reminder of the intense and irrevocable suffering we are causing for rich men's agenda's? If we won't even look at the horror we are behind, and we *are* behind it, then we must really be monsters lost in the comforts of TV glamor.
    • MrCobaltBlue, on 10/11/2007, -4/+32I completely agree, I wish our nightly news wasn't so censored. Do you think the war would've lasted this long if these shots were shown every night as Mom, Pop and little Johnny cut their apple pie?
      • Ezekiel25:17, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9I want people to see the cost of war and have these images embedded into their minds so we don't take away from the hell that war is. Then next time we want to go into a war we might just stop and ask ourselves if it is worth the cost.
      • lokiwho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm sure everybody wants to see this type of stuff. I know for sure that I do because I completely disagreed with the war from the start and I am still finding myself looking at the news everyday , waiting for the day that this ***** can end.
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2What more do you want? We have a constant running death toll.
      • SuperCujo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9A death is just a number. Without images to back it up, no one really understands how these soldiers are dying.

        And anyway, where is the death toll of civilians killed in this conflict going to be shown every night? The people you went to free from their dictator... Oh, thats right, we never will.
        • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Really? You obviously think people are too stupid to understand "10 soldiers died today." Yeah they need pictures of 10 mangled bodies to fill them in. I'm not THAT stupid and I don't know many peopel who are.
          • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4What social groups do you pal around with?
      • smcavoy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Does a number speak more truth than a picture of that death?
    • Oobitsa, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3As a father of two children around the age of some of those in the pictures, I am sickened and brokenhearted at seeing them. That doesn't mean that I shouldn't. I need to see them. I flipped through each one. Seeing them strengthens my conviction that this is a evil, ***** war perpetrated by war criminals and that I want my damn country back!
  • ryancalderoni, on 10/11/2007, -25/+56This is NOT the unseen war. What did you think war was going to look like?!!!
    • dn11, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11oh, i thought this wasn't a "war" remember? we already won - mission accomplished - that is the disconnect
    • norman619, on 10/11/2007, -10/+4Ryan:
      Amred conflict isn't supposed to have casualties didn't you know? They are supposed to be firing flowers out of them guns not real bullets.

      To all others who want the gore on TV:
      Do you really think no one is aware of the cost in lives of this conflict? Turn on the freaking news and they are more than happy to tell you homwany new dead there are and and the total so far. Oh yeah sorry peopel don't understand words they need graphics pictures of the dead. Respect for the families means nothing the public has a right to photos of the mangled bodies of thier loved ones.... yeah.....
      • jrstinkfish, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Pictures of the dead have more impact than mere numbers. If you think support for this war is low now, imagine how low it'd be if people actually saw the true effects of our occupation.
    • simplenation, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1http://uk.gizmodo.com/wow%20dragon-800.jpg
    • jpmulli, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0You are 100% correct! Did people really think we could get into this conflict and not have casualties? Casualties are the price of war and freedom. Hussein and his sons were evil and needed to be removed from power. Mission accomplished! Now if we can just disengage from this mess.
    • CannedMango, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yeah.... because people are MORE free today than they were 8 years ago....
  • TehSwat, on 10/11/2007, -20/+71Why the hell is the US there? What's the point? By the time this war ends, millions of citizens will be dead, and thousands more American and Nato troops.
    • Scheissen, on 10/11/2007, -16/+5Millions? That shows how dumb you canucks are.
    • willowreed, on 10/11/2007, -13/+3hey, oil is what keeps this country going. next time you go to the gas station to buy gas for your crappy suv (stupid utility vehicle) you can thank our soldiers.
      the next time you buy milk or bread and its affordable, you can thank our truckers for getting it there economically for you.

      • giroguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1or we can take the billions of upon trillions of dollars we are spending on military forces over there to create alternative energy sources and implement them which would be cheaper and not cost countless numbers of lives.... greedy bastards who only see immediate financial gain for themselves in their pockets before they leave office are what keep this country going.... and they do so my making sure we are only able to use oil. hydrogen is still 5 years away... after they said its 5 years away... 5 years ago....
    • candylandviper, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2We can't leave now that we're there. If we did Iraq would be invaded within a week, its government is so week. I have no freaking clue how we're going to get out, but can't just pull out and think things will be better.
  • Darkhowling91, on 10/11/2007, -30/+43It's not that Bush wants to cover up this stuff, its just that the media censors stuff like this. Great example is when they blurred out the dead body on the deadliest catch. Parent's dont want there kids flipping on the news and seeing gory images, imagine if you we're exposed to that as a kid rather then The Rug Rats or Angry Beavers.
    • CletusJones, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11It could also spare the victim's family the unimaginable horror of seeing pictures or video of their loved one's bodies' destroyed.
    • laserblazer, on 10/11/2007, -6/+27The Baby Boomers WERE exposed to that - every night - in the form of watching dead Vietnamese being bulldozed into pits and listening to the death tolls. The reason for having a press is to keep the citizenry (the 'bosses') aware of what politicians (the 'servants') are up to.

      It is, in fact, that Bush's regime wants to cover this up. When your country is engaged in wars of aggression, you can't expect responsible citizens to settle for sanitized news. People are being murdered - of course it's ugly. Not talking about it is not an option.
      • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Exactly, and it is a HUGE reason why there was so much resistance toward that war. We are being shown the Disney friendly version for no reason other than to prevent us from getting so worked up that we actually go outside and hold a rally (after months and months of permits, fees, harassment, organizing, more fees, more permits and licenses, and then being told to sit down and shut up in a caged off "free speech zone" under a freeway somewhere in Timbucktoo). I personally find that both insulting of the media/government and frightening.
    • ryodoan, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3and because they were exposed to those images, they know the power the images hold and they do not want a new generation to be exposed to them.
    • sabarsky, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5and yet all the graphic violence on broadcast tv is A-OK. welcome to the US, home of the double standard.
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Sabarsky, I don't know about you, but I can watch someone be violently killed on fictional TV no problem because it isn't real. When I saw a still photo of that real US soldier dead on the floor, it made me feel physically ill. There's a huge ***** difference.
      • Hoov, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That picture was really moving. Especially with the heart in the background.
      • Hoov, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That picture was really moving. Especially with the heart in the background.
    • williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1U.S. media is heavily influenced by the government, and is dependent on FCC approval to operate, SEC approval to participate in capital markets, and FTC approval to make significant business transactions.

      On anything as important as the war, the U.S. media will dance to the president's tune, or else.

      If you think we have a free press, think again: The war, immigration, the debt, Israel, etc. are suppressed topics. We are only slightly better than the Chinese and Russians.
  • KingAdrock, on 10/11/2007, -10/+88I thought I was desensitized but some of those photos really shook me. wow
    • Franki3B, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I have to agree those are very graphic.. I by no means underestimate what war looks like or the results from it, but some of those are still hard to look at.
    • tryangles, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I hear you King. Seeing the pic of the soldier put a lump in the back of my throat. I have friends and cousins serving in Iraq, some on their 3rd tours. God Bless our servicemen and women and God bring them home alive to their loved ones.
    • Stephenishere, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3something must be ***** up with me now. not one of those photos made me flinch.................... god whats wrong with me
  • domirep, on 10/11/2007, -15/+66What did you think war looked like?
  • MagicToenail, on 10/11/2007, -18/+7I can't think of any war where the government wanted us to see mutilated bodies, nor can i think of any person who wants to see them.
  • sf49er408, on 10/11/2007, -28/+12wow i hope jesus comes soon cause that sh*ts sad. imagine if that was america and iraqis occupation led to an american childs death. no wonder the middle east hates us so much.
  • wadick4, on 10/11/2007, -17/+9Why are we as a country envyed by most in the world? We are a country that was once an amazing world power, one other countries wanted to be like. Why were we? We rebelled against the world power.... and thrived showed the world a way we could truely be free. Now there is a new world power. The bush administration. The only way our country can once again be a world power, is if we find what the founders of this good nation found. The constitution. We were right in the beginning. Go back to them. Be a constitutionalist. Ron Paul is. I was a liberal. Now I'm a Republican. I nominate myself for president in 2008. I promise I can do better then the current Curious George.
    • browwiw, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8If you're a Republican you've already wiped your ass with the Constitution. It's part of the initiation rites. You can't get the GOP presidential nomination until you smother an immigrant toddler.
    • MiDri, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1It is not even bush's fault if you look at the direction America has been going -- this is just the first chance that they have had to erode at our rights at this magnitude.

      Absolute power corrupts absolutely... Franklin has a great quote about how America would "stay a course" only to end up so destitute and power hungry that the people would have to over throw it...

      I'm going to bed...
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2LOL nice use of repetitive propaganda that we're all taught at age 8. Those are LIES, we are fed them at every turn since we first start pledging our lives to that worthless flag.
      • gerphimum, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2that "worthless flag" is what symbolizes the right for you to be a complete and total asshat.
  • ChildhoodRage, on 10/11/2007, -17/+6I guess we should start fighting with stuffed pillows instead.
  • ChileanGoD, on 10/11/2007, -15/+148We're still babarians. Internet, International space station, Super computers....*****... with this still going on we are still primitive cavemen.
    • MagicToenail, on 10/11/2007, -13/+2I'm not a babarian
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -10/+6We are human beings.

      We ignore the laws of nature as if we're above them all enough now as it is.

      In case you hadn't noticed, nature is cruel, brutal and designed to insure the best survive.
      • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I see we have the evolutionists here backing me up on the laws of nature.

        Let's take a look at the facts, shall we?

        We are human beings >> indisputable to anyone who isn't a tard
        We ignore the laws of nature and survival of the fittest >> indisputable to anyone who believes in charity
        Nature is cruel, brutal and designed to insure the best survive >> indisputable to anyone who knows ***** about science or watches ***** Animal Planet.

        "FACTS ARE IMPORTANT ONLY WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT!"
        • fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2"We ignore the laws of nature and survival of the fittest >> indisputable to anyone who believes in charity"
          That's where you hit *****. "Survival of the fittest" is an oversimplification of natural selection, a dumbing down to help people understand a very basic form of the concept. Look into social animals and you'll see charity is not necessarily against "the laws of nature".
      • smedrick, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Last time I checked, fratricide wasn't in the "Laws of Nature".
      • smedrick, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Last time I checked, fratricide wasn't in the "Laws of Nature".
      • Moocat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Yes, let's look at the facts. What separates humans from the rest of the animal kingdom? We obey the laws of nature, but we have the ability to choose whether to obey the primal instinct or to rise above it and become more than just another animal. Seems like some pretty simple "*****" to me.
      • ChileanGoD, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1By your logic, a paraplegic retard on a wheel chair who's only able to move a finger would be surviving as the fittest over me if it happens to shoot me with a gun. That's what is happening, we're not killing eachother by instict, we're killing eachother because we choose to. In my mind that makes us worst than animals.
    • dcshiderly, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0Duh, ***** sapiens is a _wild_animal_, with a ferocious will to survive, and up to this point has mastered every threat tossed at it. This is simply more of the same. Don't think for a second we can legislate this away. It will take transcendence and the singularity to achieve meaningful change within ourselves in less than geological time.
    • crashflow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24
    • roodammy44, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@CourtesyFlush "nature is cruel, brutal and designed to insure the best survive"
      First of all, it's not the best survive - it's the organism that's most able to adapt to its environment. As we control our environment, right now we adapt best.
      Why should we just accept that because we evolved from animals subject to brutal nature, we should be brutal?
      You retard. Human beings shouldn't act like animals anymore, and the "because that's where we come from" argument is pathetic.
    • ChileanGoD, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1We're not even acting like animals. Animals respond to instinct. They are pure in the way that they aren't subject to moral values because they are not bad or good... they just "are". On the other hand. we are aware of suffering, we are aware of what we do, we have conscience. All this ***** we put upon ourselves come out of the choices we make. In that aspect, like i said earlier, we're worst than animals.
  • bernieg1, on 10/11/2007, -28/+9Yeah, we're stealing a ton of oil. What a dope. Where is all this oil we're stealing, smart guy? How come gas is over $3.00 a gallon if we're paying nothing for the oil?
    I can't believe people still believe we're there to steal oil.
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6They've repeated it so much and are so used to saying it, they don't really think about what they're saying anymore.

      It's an over simplistic mantra regurgitated by very simple minded people who can't grasp the complexities of foreign affairs.
      • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Oh God, give me a break you condescending ass. Oil is not the only factor but it is certainly a large factor. Remember Wolfowitz's revealing quote? "The real reason was that the country is swimming on a sea of oil." Insult people all you want, but you're wrong. Goddamn inmates are diagnosing the doctors.
        • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1There are many "large factors" concerning events in the Middle East..

          To boil it all down to one single, easy to parrot buzzphrase slogan shows either incredible intellectual laziness or a dire failure to grasp the entire situation.

          Either way, your indignation toward the blunt truth affects nothing.
          • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Weird session expired *****.

            Dear Digg. Please fix your ***** up code. Thanks.
        • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"Either way, your indignation toward the blunt truth affects nothing."

          Yet you can't come up with any concrete example, nor do you address the substance of Wolfowitz's quote.

          Spare me your assertions of intellectual superiority.
          • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Concrete example of WHAT? That you're a sniffy moron who has to simplify foreign affairs into easy to regurgitate slogans?

            Don't look now, sparky, but you've already provided the evidence by giving me one, single, solitary quote.

            My, how complex.
          • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3And what have you provided, you petulant little *****? Not a single ***** thing. Just carrying on about how "simple" everyone is. Well you sure showed me how right you are!

            Next time, try bringing an argument.
        • kinseyincanada, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The oil companies and defense contractors all bush and chenys college buddies are making billions off the war, do you really think bush went to Iraq for oil for the American citizen!
      • wildmonkeys77, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0-Dregga

        I'm loving the intelligent counter-argument, really makes for a strong point.
        • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2***** you. Google production sharing agreements and google Wolfowitz's quote and then come back to me.
          • koozebane, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm not quite sure why anyone would need to prove the simplicity of a single concept.

            Perhaps you should explain why the one point is complex in nature in spite of its appearance instead of asking people to prove a negative or being an abusive *****.
          • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hey, Dregga. I don't need an argument for everyone to see that your one single point is simple.

            Flinging poo does nothing to transform your simple, easy to parrot factoid into a complex idea.
    • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7What are we there for in your opinion then?

      Gas is $3.00 a gallon because the douche bags running the oil companies are ***** us over and making huge profits.

      I don't think that is why we are over there either btw.
    • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8You're ***** ignorant. Google "Production sharing agreements" and you'll see just how much oil the big oil co's are essentially stealing.

      Did you think the oil was going to be cheap, silly consumer? No, it's to ensure ever higher profits.

      Pull your head out please.
    • obliviousfool, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6The oil is being stolen, but "we" (as in you and I) are not the ones stealing it. American foreign policy has become a matter of using the military to put US and international corporations in a place to make money from and gain interest over this dwindling resource. You'd think the oil companies would give us a discount for letting them use our military like that, but you would be wrong. Instead we get to pay for the cost of putting them in such a prime business spot. You and I get saddled with debt from the war and gas prices that don't ever move downward. Demand stays high and the oil companies make record profits.
  • DCUK, on 10/11/2007, -4/+77Unseen by those without the internet.
    • Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Some of those people probably are not the type that need to see such content.
  • Emulsifide, on 10/11/2007, -15/+76Bring our troops home.
    • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2The troops can refuse to occupy and murder for the state. Federal troops that persist in occupying Iraq deserve the hell that is their life.
      • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2At the expense of their freedom and lives, yes they can. Easy to say, but it's another thing to serve 10 years...
    • ryodoan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2That is an easy statement to make, but I just do not think it is that simple.
    • blackjack75, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3They are bringing the troops back.

      Just at a slow pace: one by one, in little boxes.
  • spideyman, on 10/11/2007, -6/+59That sucks. I doubt many Iraqi's want us to be occupying their country any more than a host of us Americans want us to. Osama and his band were behind 9/11.....not Iraq. We shouldn't be there.
    • commnode, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Point taken and I agree. I think the main problem is how to get out without making things an even worse mess
  • NEWNHLISLAME, on 10/11/2007, -15/+20The US Military in conjunction with the US government and The Federal Reserve are conducting an illegal war against innocent civilians, These Pictures should be seen by all, as to remind us of the criminality of these actions.
    Hopefully more people will see these photos and question their countries involvement.and maybe stand up to these politicians before we have no right s left, just as these Iraqi's are stripped of there lives.
    • fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Military... check.
      Government... check.
      Federal Reserve? Loosen your tin foil hat.

      Also, a disgusting amount of innocent civilians get killed in Iraq, but theoretically, we are fighting insurgents and the occasional terrorist, not regular civilians.
    • NEWNHLISLAME, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0what were the inital reasons for going into iraq? Weapons of Mass Destruction Right? Where are they?
  • BFGXTC, on 10/11/2007, -17/+8Wait... people die in war?
    • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yes, and in really ***** up ways BFGXTC. Those are the facts of life. Hard to believe because the War is so far away. Pictures are pointless really, they fail to capture the...how do you call it, the horrifi...horrible.... oh ***** it, who cares? Are these pornotographers trying to make me puke? If they are, then they have succeeded, there is no need for this kind of filth war porn on the internet or anywhere else!
      • SuperCujo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2How is the view with your head in the sand?
        • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i am sorry i do not know the new lingo..../sarcasm was what i should have put in my comment. I thought it was sooo obvious but I know now the written sarcasm is less effective than the verbal and that people in general are too gullible when the obvious confronts them. I am drunk so now so I am a little harsher than I would normally be. So in response the view with me head in the sand in extraordiary. the earth looks like a blue marble reminding me how small us humans really are... wait. no, that is the mushrooms, it is very dark in the sand. /sarcasm
      • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1/barf
    • acdcfanbill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1can't they just respawn???
  • tmanaussie, on 10/11/2007, -10/+80I wish the American people would take back their country.
    • miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11I wish they'd go back to their own country!
    • azzageddi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The former has to happen before the latter can.
      • gravedigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Well said. We need our country back. Representatives backed by businesses are what are ruining us. They are really representing the people anymore. They are representing their financial/personal interests and forcing the results upon the American people.
    • glock22ownr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@miriclaire :
      I also wish we'd stop handing out financial aid to the rest of the world. But hey... no one ever mentions that anymore, everyone can only see an occupying evil force right?
  • Igei, on 10/11/2007, -24/+6"The Photos Washington Doesn't Want You To See"

    I think you mean, the photos that no one wants to see. We have plenty of pictures of coffins coming home to America, pictures of wounded soldiers, pictures of wounded Iraqis and Muslims and all that ***** on the news and in the news papers. We know Iraqis, Americans and many others are killed everyday and we don't need some more gruesome pictures to remind us that its happening.
    • ruley, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10It seems the people who want to keep us in iraq haven't seen enough.
      • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1It seems you have an active imagination.
    • JKAL, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So you want to bury your head in the sand, and just be able to worry about where to buy your next latte?

      The true meaning of evil is Indifference
    • onetruejp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yes we do. Lest people forget that war is not like Halo, that there is a cost, and not the glorious enterprise certain factions of the culture would have us believe it is. Also, the violence serves to remind people that our prescence there is neither welcome nor tolerated.
  • leszek, on 10/11/2007, -1/+61Those images are horrible, but they are necessary.
    Each day we hear in the news the death of people in some dramatic events.
    3 death for this, 12 death for that, ...
    But we are so used to it, that for us it is only numbers that you can count and make statistics ...
    Each one of these persons had a life, a family, people who loved them.
    We need those images to remind us that the war is not a game, that these deaths are very real and we should do everything to avoid them.
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2This is nothing more than the morbid fascination that causes traffic to come to a stand still while idiots rubberneck at the carnage from a serious accident.

      Most sane individuals already know that war is not a game. We spend millions and millions in our entertainment industy getting the gore just right.

      • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Holy *****, digg is a lost cause.

        We recreate gore and violence at great expense so you kiddies can go to the movies and play your games to watch people die in nasty ways.

        "THE VIOLENCE WAS SO REAL!"

        This little piece is nothing but sensationalism that appeals to emotion.

        Nobody really gives a flying ***** if you look at these pictures or not. Go ahead, have at it. Just get a ***** grip and stop pretending that there is some sort of conspiracy that is trying to keep you from seeing all this.

        It's been up for TWO ***** YEARS and no one has taken it down. Look all you want.
    • Akaricloud, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Why is CourtesyFlush being buried? He speaks the absolute truth. Most of you are simply to arrogant to accept what he says.
  • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29Everyone should see these photos. Most people here don't realize that there are real people behind the statistics; our own servicemen along with innocent men women and children. These photos make any feeling person thoroughly disgusted that this country started a war on ***** grounds that has caused so much physical and emotional pain over here as well as over there.
    • Wacer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You fail to realize that the whole Islamic region has a problem with radical people with very radical governments. This region has been brewing for years. Osama and the 100,000's of thousands like minded individuals fail to realize that the world is changing. Everything would be fine if Islamic governemtns controlled their nut-jobs by sticking them in prison before they get out of hand. It's almost like they condone such behaviour by not doing a better job of controlling them.

      When is the last time we heard of an arrest from Pakistan or their progress on the madmen? We give them a billion dollars a year to fight terrorism and what do they give us? Maybe 20-50 people killed or arrested a year. They haven't even done that good lately. Is Pakistan going to cough up the bastard that financed blowing up the world trade center with day-cares in them or are they going to keep jacking us around. Sometimes war is inevitable. Instead of whining for years about your hatred for the war, support getting this God Forsaken war over and demand that the government make Pakistan cough that little Whore-Laden over and then we can start to close this black-eye in history.

      For those of you who think that we should just bail out of Iraq, do you realize that images like these minus the soldier would much worse. The only thing that wouldn't see is the images of the atrocities that would follow after our departure because the world would not care anymore. Think of the aftermath of creating a problem and just quitting because the going got tough. Our atrocities to the people over their would be unspeakable.
  • NEWNHLISLAME, on 10/11/2007, -13/+8AND PLEASE STOP BLAMING THIS ON OSAMA, there is no evidence directly linking him to the attacks, it is time to look at the US governments involvement in 911. there are just to many coincidences related to the Bush Administrations desires for a new world order.
    • willowreed, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0why are you osama's boyfriend for something? i guess you were involved with 9/11 since you know so much about it.

      good grief.
      • NEWNHLISLAME, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Get educated and take your head from out of the sand. The CIA has more to do with any US bombing then any Taliban, get your head from out of your ass!
        • gerphimum, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1wait wait wait - the cia has *more to do* with any u.s. bombing than taliban? educated folks cite their sources.
          (also, is my head in the sand or my ass? you seem to switch around, so i dont know where i oughta be taking it out of.)
    • Castronaut, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Is there a site like Digg but with fewer 9/11 conspiracy theorists because it makes it impossible to discuss the war on a mature level when somebody that dusts all 8 boxed seasons of X-Files every single day comes in to spout some stupid crap about how an incredibly incompetent government shot a missile into The Pentagon while remotely controlling two planes to hit the towers. God I'm so amazingly furstrated and tired of 9/11 conspiracy theorists. I really thought you idiots were a small crazy minority, but you all just seem to pool in mass on Digg like mercury.
  • brianbennett, on 10/11/2007, -12/+6Although the government dioes prohibit photographs of our coffins, the article makes no mention of further censorship by the government as the headline and description imply.

    War is indeed hell and the best way for us to win quick is to really take the gloves off and stop trying to fight a politically correct war. Rest assured, the world has not yet seen the full, awesome fury the United States Armed Forces is capable of.
    • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Reality corrects tour most incorrect conclusion. The US is very weak...in all areas...economic, military, social.
      War destroys countries.
    • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Yeah, more killing! That'll solve everything.

      I love these armchair quarterbacks advocating more brutal violence from the comfort of their homes.
    • BGFeltenink, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2As if the over 100,000 civilian deaths that have happened by us being "soft" mean nothing to you... seek some god damn therapy. You might start by telling them you're a sociopath with no regard for human life, then they'll help you into a nice little dorm with fluffy walls.
  • ruley, on 10/11/2007, -15/+4buried. I refuse to digg something that uses the phrase "... doesn't want you to see". I'm sorry, i just hate it so much. I am not going to see "Sicko" because it used that phrase in the trailer.
    • willowreed, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0sicko is stupid too. moore is a lying cheating jerk.
    • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That is a good reason to not see a Michael Moore film so you have a credible reason to bash it later.
    • dodus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Thanks for sharing ruley, I bet you really hate a whole bunch of *****.
  • wildmonkeys77, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7I'm not a pro-war advocast myself, but the idea that we are there to steal oil is rediculous, a lot of people call Bush stupid but very few people call him evil, something he would need to be to send us to Iraq purely for economical gain.
    • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4You are quite foolish.
      • murphygr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1@namelessuno

        even though we went for "weapons of mass destruction" and found none, don't you think it's good we held a man responsible for genocide accountable? oh wait, sorry, i've got the wrong genocide. darfur is the hip one to care about.
    • Biskino, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Let me be the first to crack your cherry then. George Bush is evil.
    • gromgull, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Eh? I was sure lots of people were saying he is DANGEROUS, because he wants you to believe he is stupid and innocent, but actually he is an evil calculating *****. Or at least his team is.
  • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5The troops are doing the killing and are 100% at fault. Blaming a politician for this misery is nonsense and irresponsible. Thousands of federal soldiers are refusing to be a part of the American occupation. Why so few?
  • ChewyBass, on 10/11/2007, -12/+10It's war. What do you expect, hugs and kisses.
    • JKAL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0If those are the facts, then why is there an official ban on taking such photos.!
      why try to hide the fact
    • soot, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Nobody is ***** crying over it, the bloodshed and the violence in this war is what needs to be seen.

      Everybody should see those caskets full of dead soldiers coming home overseas. Everybody should see the images of dead families and dead Iraqis, and the newspapers should publish photographs of the cost of war if that's what it takes to get people to wake up and realize to what end it is being waged, because the sad fact is that the American public has grown bored with it.
  • Scheissen, on 10/11/2007, -13/+8Digg, home of the 400lb armchair cynic.
  • turnthepage, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10Here's a photo the MSM doesn't want you to see:
    http://pfpnetwork.org/photos/sample/picture5.aspx
    • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3Those soldiers lack the courage to quit killing for the state....how extremely sad for them and their future victims.
      • murphygr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2people actually think what you think? how sad for anyones future
      • DennisPwnsj00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3you are a fool.
    • murphygr, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6amen

      they also don't want you to see this

      http://www.army.mod.uk/img/staffords/soldier_helping_children.jpg

      theres two sides to every story, but the negative is more popular
      • jrstinkfish, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0So sad that some of those children are probably dead now as a result of this war.
    • withoutasol, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1ummm... thats like stabbing someone in the chest and then offering them a bandaid for the wound
  • KatieBee, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8Why are these "the photos washington doesn't want you to see?" this is war. war is ugly and awful. that isn't a reflection on washington. it's a reflection of the evil face of war. war looks the same no matter WHO is in the white house. it's a shame people use such emotional images to promote their own selfish agenda like this post.
  • uselessexpert, on 10/11/2007, -2/+22My brother has been in Irag and Afghanistan...and he has pictures that none of those have nothing on.
    Like nepawoods said... WAR IS HELL...
  • jmpeagle, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5buried...2 year old article
  • redfox2600, on 10/11/2007, -8/+5Well using pictures of battle scared soldiers or coffins for your own political gain is just plain wrong. Remember them for who they where remember them for protecting their country. Don't use their pain and suffering for your own damn anti-war propaganda. Reducing them to nothing more than a "there you see I was right".
    • swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I'm sure you would also agree that censoring pictures of coffins for political gain is just as plain wrong.
    • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1This pictures are testaments by themselves to the horrors of war. In a way, they are "damn anti-war propaganda" on their own, and I do not think that anyone is trying to cheapen what they are.
  • msarge, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Geez, picture of a head, two limbs, on top of a pile of flesh disturbed me.
  • JKAL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37As most diggers will understand "if there is no picture it did not happen", this is frightenly used in real life to hide the real horrors of a real war.

    "Yes!" to all those loosers who are trying to use sarcasm asking "oh, is war violent? or do people die in war?", that is not the point the point is that these images are hidden from the masses to hide how much this LIE is actually costing us. Many brave young men and innocent people are dying due to lies. This is not comming from a treehugger or a peace loving lefty! this is about doing what is in the best interests of a GREAT Nation!, this war is not that, it is more to do about destroying the foundations of a great nation to server the purposes of a small group of criminals to build unimginable wealth at the same time giving them more power and more of your rights. do some research! before posting.

    May the founding fathers' ideals be not forgotten for the few.
    The constitution is NOT just a "god damn piece of paper"!
    • sunshinemonster, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3It's not like we didn't know children, soldiers, and civilians were being killed everyday. The photographs gave captions about friendly fire bombings, car bombs, suicide bombers, and KIAs. "If there is no picture it did not happen" is the stupidest phrase I have ever heard in my life. Guess what? There are no pictures of apes evolving into humans.
    • JKAL, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0"If there is no picture it did not happen" is the stupidest phrase I have ever heard in my life."
      Your n00b or troll colors are begining to show
    • Thing2, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Dude he's saying that in the average Americans eyes they just dont think about what those numbers are on the screen that they see everyday. Things like 20 died in Car bombings, 5 American soldiers died in gunfight. Those are NUMBERS....we DO NOT fully comprehend the fact that there are PEOPLE behind those "numbers" - dead people, bleeding all over the street, Americans *and* Iraqis - and ALL of them have loved ones, and lives that were IMPORTANT and had meaning.

      It's easy to say "Hey this is war, stuff happens"

      But can you say that when you're looking at the bloodied corpse of a human being - be they American or Iraqi - in a pool of their own blood in the middle of a street? - Can you?

      War is senseless.
    • Oldschoolhack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@Thing2

      I have to agree with you here. I don't think enough people really dwell on the weight those numbers carry. I won't say most people, but I will say a lot of people around me are so narcissictic that they would rather not think about it because its 'depressing', and go about their lives as if nothing is going on. Only when it effects them directly will they care. It won't be until it is at their very doorstep will they care. I think this is why nothing is getting done in our government about these problems. Not enough americans care.
  • ruddy, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2until manhunt 2 is rated E, i really dont wanna see those pics
    • Castronaut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Spoken like a true video game nerd activist.
  • dikaiosyne, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7I worked alongside the soldier who is doing CPR on the wounded soldier. Quite the trooper, I'd go to war with him again in a heartbeat. I imagine the people of America know that war consists of everything this article accuses them of not knowing about.
    • TheGuruStud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I was going to digg you up, but people that have no clue what war is, is a big problem. I don't have a problem with war in general at all (of course I don't support this BS, though). It's what ppl do best and arguably the greatest art form (never has more money, energy or time been spent), but a lot of dumb ass americans may see this and be truly surprised. If they are surprised by these images, then they don't have a clue what war looks like (or is).
  • SlipStream89, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2wow those were some pretty powerful pictures.most of them shouldn't of had captions.
  • NEWNHLISLAME, on 10/11/2007, -10/+14Protecting your country from what? . A big Fat lie is Being told in the news media daily, keep following sheep!
  • zezerik, on 10/11/2007, -12/+4I know you ignorant ***** are going to hate this but the Democratic party is the only political party in the history of mankind to ever nuke a country. And they specifically aimed for civilians. Both parties have dirty hands. This stupid administration has got a big problem on it's hands but its not even as bad as LBJ and Vietnam... But most of you "diggers" are pubing zit-covered teens with no recollection of anything beyond 2 weeks ago and the only thing you know about war is what new Medal of Honor game EA releases.

    War is war and bloody photos should be released. I agree with this article. Washington should tell the whole truth by releasing everything.
    • richmondphotog, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1the parties have certainly changed since 1946, don't you agree?
    • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I imagine many of us don't align themselves with a political party. So what if it was the dems that nuked japan, the point is that this war were are currently in is based on ***** and it is causing undue pain to Americans, Iraqis, and citizens of many other countries around the world.
  • CommissarVlad, on 10/11/2007, -13/+0This war is completely unnecessary, but so are those images.
  • Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -9/+44I listened to "Imagine" today and imagined a better world that can be. I came to the realization that it's not the people of all the countries of the world that hate each other or want to afflict harm and death on others. It's their governments. Their governments paint another people as an "enemy" and then manipulate public opinion through false propaganda. The real evil of this planet are corrupt governments and the corporations that buy its officials off. It is they who create wars on ***** reasons and it's they who create poverty and hardship for their people.

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace
    • CommissarVlad, on 10/11/2007, -16/+4So are you a disciple of John Lennon or just a dirty hippie?
    • Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9I'm actually a Reagan conservative who once thought Lennon was a dirty hippie. Turns out he was wise beyond his years and time.
    • thcobbs, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9Hrrrrm.... I think I remember a few countries trying to implement governments similar to that. It's called communism, and it doesn't ***** work.
      • Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I agree with you. Communism doesn't work. I'm not suggesting Communism as the solution to our problems. I'm suggesting that substantially less government and non-interventionist foreign policy as the American founders intended. Despite its flaws, I still believe in free enterprise and I believe that it's the only economic model that recognizes the individual's right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

        What we're witnessing today is Capitalism gone amock. This is due to rampant corruption in our government. It's not the system but rather the inherent corruption and greed of certain men in positions of power, both in the public and private sectors.
      • CommissarVlad, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Oh, well congratulations at realizing the first rule of government. They're always corrupt. Its human nature and you simply cannot change it. Sure we want the world to be perfect but everyone else has a different idea of what that is and you can't always make everybody happy. Social Anarchy (as the song Imagine paints it out to be) is nigh impossible. Just think of all that you'd have to do to get the world like that instead of oversimplifying it like Lennon did. (Wise beyond his years my ass.) I'd love to see the world in such a state, it would be wonderful, but like I said earlier, you can't make everybody happy, and a government like that would just make some happy and some upset. So please don't act like Lennon is god, because he was just as radical as Reagan, and I imagine you hate him just as much as some people love him, because thats just how it is.
        • Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2haha wow...you still pissed off your mom didn't breast feed you when you were a baby? You, my friend, need to chill out and start doing something you've never done before: imagine. Dream. Have optimism. Give humanity more credit. Believe there's room for hope. Believe there's room for progress. Believe there's room for change.

        • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Cynicism is the bane of society.
        • numb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Run4ny gets it. The key word is "imagine." I'm surprised how many people have negative reactions to a song about peace (no, it's not about communism.)
    • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Oh yeah, anyone who sees meaning in a song about peace and love is a dirty hippie. Come on, are you all that attached to your god damn stereotypes?!
      • CommissarVlad, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3No, just frustrated at people who have pipedreams about perfection in government and the world. Stop complaining, take action or shut up. Otherwise you're just whining.
        • Run4ny, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1What's wrong with dreaming of a better world? In order for action to be taken for that better world there has to be some "pipedreams" about it first. The great men and women of history who changed our world for the better began with their dreams of what that world would and be.
        • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Pipedreams are better the cynicism. However, I do agree that people need to get up and do something to at least get some form of their dream realized.
      • Akaricloud, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Quoted for Truth Commissar Vlad. Its one thing to post your crap on digg, its another to actually face the world and do something.
        Good for you if you can sit on your computer, read articles like this and then condemn the entire world for being corrupt and full of lies. You are pathetic if you do nothing after preaching it.
    • SGT.SHIZZO, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2There's a lot of people quoting that song lately. It's good to see someone thinking positive for a change. Maybe some day.
    • Broelke4, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1--wrong box--
    • Altanar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You do realize that the only time that the world will be country and religion free is when there are no more people living here, right?
    • sourDee, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2You know -- I was thinking the same thing the other day. Are wars ever about one country's citizens versus another's? No, they're about one country's government versus another's.

      So what happens in ten, fifteen, twenty years, when the world ceases to rely on newspapers and television, and media is now decentralized, spread across the internet, and truly in the hands of its users? What happens when it really is possible for every person to be present, and have a voice, and make themselves heard? You can't keep the truth a secret. Everybody knows that once it's on the internet, it's out there forever.

      And really, that's how it's going to be in a few short years. You hear people talk about WWIII, or some apocalyptic war in the middle east, but if you really do have a situation like this, where governments are accountable to their people for the decisions they make, and decisions cannot be made without the will of the people, war simply isn't possible. You're not going to get 300 million people to agree to use murderous force to coerce 300 million other people over a political issue. It can happen today, where lone politicians fancy themselves demigods and decide the fates of millions, but it can't in the future. Thoughts like this really make me feel proud to be part of the internet, and they make me feel really hopeful for the future.
    • seraph82, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yep, the more ways we seperate ourselves from one another, the worse off we are. Gender, religion, race, country -- doesn't matter. They're only excuses to hate.
    • grr74, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2(Disregard if not republican)
      I hope you sleep well at night after voting Bush into the White House.
    • Otnip, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2While a world like that would be great, its important to understand that we'll never live in one like that... Harsh truth, I guess.
  • w3bsmith, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1STOP IT!!! MY GOD!!!
  • Pilot85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I read a lot of "this is propaganda", "well of course they censor these, there's no point in showing them" statements. The point of these pictures are the images they capture! If an entire nation is willing to go to war, to CAUSE scenes like the ones shown, every day, then they should most certainly have the fortitude to OBSERVE the results. I don't care how you spin it, these images show the brutal realities of war. If what we are "fighting for" isn't worth the cost you can see, then we absolutely should reconsider our current situation. Otherwise, we're all just talking out our asses, aren't we?
  • acid55, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4There are some horrible pictures from September 11, 2001 also...
    • Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4And what do they have to do with Iraq?
    • RanIntoTheDevil, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Yeah there are. I don't see your point though, since the people involved in 9/11 were based in GOD DAMN AFGHANISTAN AND NOT IRAQ. Idiot.
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1So...pictures of Afghanistan gore wouldn't be important either.

      Obviously, the only gore that matters is in Iraq.
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