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IOC Wants China to Open Up the Internet During Olympics
aol.com.au — The Internet must be open during the Beijing Olympics. That was the message a top-ranking International Olympic Committee official delivered Tuesday to Beijing organizers during the first of three days of meetings. China routinely blocks Internet access, a practice it has stepped up since rioting broke out over two weeks ago in Tibet.
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- caponumen, on 04/02/2008, -7/+52Go they won't look like the complete and total sell outs they are.
I guess endemic slave labor wasn't enough to make China look bad.
BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!- sweetholymosiah, on 04/02/2008, -2/+27People willing to boycott the Olympics and still buy things (read everything) made in China are hypocrites.
- rstarr, on 04/02/2008, -1/+6It's pretty tough not to to be honest...unless you don't need any piece of tech for a looong time.
- theaceoffire, on 04/02/2008, -0/+6Not just tech, our food, clothing, almost everything is getting shifted over there.
- smithchr, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2Definitely a problem. I mean, I can buy local for food, try to buy locally produced clothing and consumer goods, but it's mighty hard to buy local electronics. My new Dell was probably largely produced and assembled in the PRC. There are options for most goods, but electronics is a tough one.
- PeppermintPig, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2If you want to retain tech jobs and see cheaper products produced in the US, then you should support the eradication of industry regulation spurred on by this ever growing government. It's anti-competitive BS. The problem is in our own back yards.
- theaceoffire, on 04/02/2008, -0/+6Not just tech, our food, clothing, almost everything is getting shifted over there.
- dcollins, on 04/02/2008, -2/+17tell me where to buy an American made TV and ill buy one....
- Damien79, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3Sure buddy, like we have a ***** choice anymore.
- rstarr, on 04/02/2008, -1/+6It's pretty tough not to to be honest...unless you don't need any piece of tech for a looong time.
- Zettabyte, on 04/02/2008, -0/+8No country will boycott the Olympics, it's a cheap handed tactic and people who will miss out is the people in small businesses who stockpile before the Olympics and the Athletes who train 4 years before the moment.
- LaGStAr, on 04/02/2008, -2/+9The Olympics are about the athletes and pride in your own country. Why does it have to matter where it is being held?
- Zettabyte, on 04/02/2008, -6/+2Aww. I lost my replies twice.
I think the Olympics will bring many more people who will openly criticise the corrupt and bureaucratic nation. Furthermore, I do not support the Independence of Tibet, because it will become a theocratic nation, with a religious dictatorship. I do think the Tibetan riots/protests are overblown, there are parts of china that needed much more attention then Tibet. Such as the Islamic community in china.
Ever since the US government rally countries to put stop to 'Islamic Terrorism' china openly support the idea and oppressed the Chinese Islamic, branding them as 'terrorist'. The Chinese destroyed businesses and Mosques, forced Abortions, sterilization for Uyghur women and denied access to food and shelter for unauthorized children. Because of the situation in middle east, the majority of ignorant westerners are afraid and hate the Islamic people. I even read such comments in the digg community mocking Islam and saying such things as “So much for the Religion of Peace™” and yet they righteously defends Buddhism because they can't do anything wrong, Right?- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2"I do not support the Independence of Tibet, because it will become a theocratic nation, with a religious dictatorship."
Not that you should go to Tibet and protest nor join the Chinese army, but huh?
Ordinarily I'd agree with you, but dude this is China, they used their own citizens as tank speed bumps and executed others on television???
...
... but apparently as I read on you get off on that kinda thing, as long as those people are 'religious'!?!? Okay, maybe you should join the Chinese army ... look over there what is that ... *runs away*. - PeppermintPig, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4If Tibet were to become a theocratic dictatorship, then easier to rebel from Tibet than China, considering the size difference. Either way, you ought to support a free people if you support Liberty. All the while people think in terms of nationalism or socialism and what they believe should be done, the individual is being trampled on. There is no moral authority in disposing others of their liberty for the so-called greater good.
A good start would be to oppose violence and authoritarianism.
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2"I do not support the Independence of Tibet, because it will become a theocratic nation, with a religious dictatorship."
- visnovsky, on 04/02/2008, -10/+1Yes, we all can see what the real truth is in the Chinese Olympics. But, the days of Communist suppression are limited, because there's a flicker of freedom in China now. The underground Christian Churches have multiplied beyond imagination. The Olympics are going to bring 100's of 1000's of freedom loving Christian messengers into China. There won't be enough Chinese Gestapo storm troopers to suppress all the foreign people from spreading the the Word or talking about Liberty! The Chinese Communists want to CENSOR and RESTRICT internet access at the Olympics. Go right ahead, because that will encourage more of us to take the Word to the streets. You can not arrest us all! I know what I am going to be doing! I do not encourage boycotting the Olympics, but PLEASE BOYCOT COKE COLA AND MCDONALDS FOR THEIR SHAMEFUL AND DISGRACEFUL SUPPORT OF THE CHINESE MURDERING OF UNARMED TIBETAN CIVILIANS AND MONKS. THEIR INVESTMENTS HAVE ARMED AND FUELED THE CHINESE ARMY IN TIBET. WHERE IS COKE COLA's AND MCDONALDS' CORPORATE VALUES AND RESPONSIBILITY! THEY SURE ARE NOT PRACTICING WHAT THEY PREACH ON THEIR WEBSITES!
- bingobongony, on 04/02/2008, -2/+6Yeah...you are right. Without the money that McDoanlds and Coca Cola poured into the Olympics, China would have freed Tibet long ago!
- Vician, on 04/02/2008, -0/+6I really can't help but comment, but is there some reason freedom loving Christians must spread this message? What about Muslims? Or Jews? Or Atheist? Or perhaps any other religious order? Also, while religion is controlled in China, it's not like Christianity is outlawed. As for this entire boycott thing, I think people need to stop championing things they don't understand. If you ever visit China, something I doubt you'd ever do, you'd realize most Chinese people are fairly content with their lives. When they country as a whole is ready for what all you insane people want, it will change. There's no way the government could stop it if that's what they truly wanted. So how about stop being stupid for a change and go read a book or something...
- Zettabyte, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Corprations and Taiwanese businesses men are fueling cheap slave labour in China and throughout South East Asia. And if you ever being in china there are Macca's and Coke adverts EVERYWHERE.
- bingobongony, on 04/02/2008, -3/+8And again...what do you THINK that boycotting the Olympics wil do? Clearly you are a teenager, or at most in your early 20s and don't remember 1980 or 1984. The last two major boycotts of hte Olympics have hurt the boycotting countries image FAR more than it hurt the host country. And it didn't hurt either host country financially one bit.
- lee1199, on 04/02/2008, -3/+2Weel said mate neither the USA or USSR came out of that shambles with much dignity.
- hartley, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4If people boycott the olympics because of social, economic, and political reasons, we would never have another olympics.
- Damien79, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1good.
- gravityboard, on 04/02/2008, -0/+7We should boycott because I was in China over the summer and it was SO hard to find good porn that wasn't blocked. Like seriously, every good sites was unavailable.
oh yeah, and because of the whole "slave" thing...
- sweetholymosiah, on 04/02/2008, -2/+27People willing to boycott the Olympics and still buy things (read everything) made in China are hypocrites.
- thenonhacker, on 04/02/2008, -2/+15The Internet has a door?
- Rotzooi, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2Nah, it's more like a plug.
- LiquidIse, on 04/02/2008, -1/+24Valves. it has valves.
- darkchild82, on 04/02/2008, -0/+16Actually it has a series of tubes.
- oxdeltaxo, on 04/02/2008, -0/+12But definitely not a dump truck.
- eclipse007, on 04/02/2008, -10/+1Yeah, that's how it's distinguished from your mom.
- bigbadgoat, on 04/02/2008, -1/+10unlike yours, which has her backdoor wide open.
- norman619, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2.
- norman619, on 04/02/2008, -0/+7Sorry but this is begging to be said:
Your mom is like a door knob. Everybody's had a turn.
- bigbadgoat, on 04/02/2008, -1/+10unlike yours, which has her backdoor wide open.
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3in China it does.
- DemDude, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Recent studies on social news sites has shown that it's more like a cellar door.
(and that's pretty much the most beautiful combination of syllables you can make in the English language)
- funkymonkey01, on 04/02/2008, -3/+6unlikely
- Daniel591992, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4What were they thinking when they chose China in the first place?
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -2/+1"Hey, this seems to be where traitorous world leaders are dumping their home-nations' money, let's go see!"
- Daniel591992, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4What were they thinking when they chose China in the first place?
- tize, on 04/02/2008, -0/+68I have a feeling we're about to witness some interesting stuff
- iloveazngurlzs, on 04/02/2008, -4/+3are you sure thats not just gas?
- Daniel591992, on 04/02/2008, -0/+8That's if you can see through the polluted air
- visnovsky, on 04/02/2008, -11/+0Yes, we all can see what the real truth is in the Chinese Olympics. But, the days of Communist suppression are limited, because there's a flicker of freedom in China now. The underground Christian Churches have multiplied beyond imagination. The Olympics are going to bring 100's of 1000's of freedom loving Christian messengers into China. There won't be enough Chinese Gestapo storm troopers to suppress all the foreign people from spreading the the Word or talking about Liberty! The Chinese Communists want to CENSOR and RESTRICT internet access at the Olympics. Go right ahead, because that will encourage more of us to take the Word to the streets. You can not arrest us all! I know what I am going to be doing! I do not encourage boycotting the Olympics, but PLEASE BOYCOT COKE COLA AND MCDONALDS FOR THEIR SHAMEFUL AND DISGRACEFUL SUPPORT OF THE CHINESE MURDERING OF UNARMED TIBETAN CIVILIANS AND MONKS. THEIR INVESTMENTS HAVE ARMED AND FUELED THE CHINESE ARMY IN TIBET. WHERE IS COKE COLA's AND MCDONALDS' CORPORATE VALUES AND RESPONSIBILITY! THEY SURE ARE NOT PRACTICING WHAT THEY PREACH ON THEIR WEBSITES!
- Sundowner, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4No the blind Chinese are who never seen the truth about their goverment.
- asdf2000, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1yeah, the olympics
- freedomwv, on 04/02/2008, -11/+4maybe Red China is finally going to get what has been coming to them. Those commies better watch out because Red China is in for a huge shake up.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -2/+6China hold $2 trillion of US$ denominated assets. If they sell, your interest rate structure will lift and you go bankrup.
- MisterFreeze, on 04/02/2008, -4/+1You're an idiot. If all of those American debtors go bankrupt, that means that they default on their loans and their creditors are unable to recover their investments. Now ask yourself how much of the Chinese economy relies on outsourcing manufacturing, and how self-sufficient China would be if the world manufacturing market softens. China has more to lose from a U.S. economic downturn than the U.S. does.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2if the bond market wobbles, I assure you China will know about it first and present T-Bonds for dollars and then dollars for gold. Call me an idiot now, son.
http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/2939401. ...- iloveazngurlzs, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3well miss wang, that was very informative and certainly proved a good point. But be careful with shouting the whole commie thing. They are not commies and we were never at war with any commies. Only imperialists.
- amightywind, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2I don't know if you noticed but the mortgage bond market practically shut down recently. How would China be able to change its massive T bill position without get *hammered*? Who would buy the notes? US investment banks probably, at a huge discount. The Chicoms then get bent over again when they buy gold. And gold doesn't pay interest. You are quite an idiot.
- MisterFreeze, on 04/02/2008, -0/+0You're an idiot.
- koreth, on 04/02/2008, -2/+1"Now ask yourself how much of the Chinese economy relies on outsourcing manufacturing"
China's domestic economy is not tiny; exports only account for about 1/3 of their GDP. A softening of export markets would certainly hurt them, no doubt about that, but it most likely wouldn't be a crippling blow (especially since you're talking a softening, not total evaporation.)
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2if the bond market wobbles, I assure you China will know about it first and present T-Bonds for dollars and then dollars for gold. Call me an idiot now, son.
- amightywind, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4You are not thinking clearly. They'd have to find a buyer. What will they receive if they sell? The dollar-pegged Yuan? Donald Trump says that another name for a large creditor is 'partner'. In the last 5 years the Fed has been playing a profitable game of chicken. Okay China, if you don't raise the value of the Yuan, we will pay you in increasingly worthless dollars. To date Chicoms are happy with the deal, even though their margins are squeezed. They don't care that their people are poor. The peasants have a mattress stuffed with dollars and a job. We in the US get cheap flat screen TV's.
- MisterFreeze, on 04/02/2008, -4/+1You're an idiot. If all of those American debtors go bankrupt, that means that they default on their loans and their creditors are unable to recover their investments. Now ask yourself how much of the Chinese economy relies on outsourcing manufacturing, and how self-sufficient China would be if the world manufacturing market softens. China has more to lose from a U.S. economic downturn than the U.S. does.
- Rotzooi, on 04/02/2008, -3/+3suzywang, this is something most Americans won't be able to process. China as an economic superpower, holding much of the borrowed wealth of the U.S. in their hands, just won't compute - yet.
- oldhick, on 04/03/2008, -0/+1We can all process it. The problem with that statement is that it doesn't really mean anything. It is certainly a great comment to scare and shock people. But the reality what it means seems lost on many people. It is of no benefit to China to see a financial collapse in the US. We live in a global economy where many countries economies are tied to each other.
- ShootTheCore, on 04/02/2008, -3/+5They are NOT commies...
- iloveazngurlzs, on 04/02/2008, -11/+5communism is good. china is not communist. they are imperialist.
- norman619, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1What would that be?
- Myonosken, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4They aren't communist, but don't let that get in the way of your YEEHA COMMIE DRAG.
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1That's what some kids thought in 1989 too. To an extent they were even right, but sadly they really didn't know the sadistic inhumanity the Chinese government/officials/soldiers was capable.
- PeppermintPig, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2Probably the same sadism of most governments and militaries?? Seems every government has its moments.
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Probably, that or something like. its moment? Perhaps, l hope not.
- PeppermintPig, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2Probably the same sadism of most governments and militaries?? Seems every government has its moments.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -2/+6China hold $2 trillion of US$ denominated assets. If they sell, your interest rate structure will lift and you go bankrup.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -38/+2IOC should mind their frigging business.
- darkchild82, on 04/02/2008, -2/+19Chinese huh ?
- eclipse007, on 04/02/2008, -1/+10Even if he/she is Chinese, I don't think internet filtering is what Chinese people want.
- MisterFreeze, on 04/02/2008, -7/+4Probably just a 14-year-old troll pretending to be Chinese and making obnoxious jackassy comments for the hell of it. Real Chinese people don't have access to digg. Only the happy luck joy communist party propaganda website.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -3/+5i live in LA. Learn about digg!
- Ajajadude, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4You live in LA? That explains A LOT.
- MisterFreeze, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1What specifically would you like me to learn about Digg?
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1Contrary to common perception, access to the vast majority of sites, including digg, is unrestricted. The only big site that I use that is still blocked is Wikipedia. Previously, BBC News was blocked.. and YouTube has been sporadically blocked.. but they're both unblocked for now.
Having Wikipedia blocked is a serious nuisance and I think it's a shame that people are missing out on one of the most educational sites in existence.. but in fairness, blocked sites are the exception to the rule rather than the norm. - steamedrice11, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1I'm Chinese. Be proud, Digg is popular enough for the world. Why don't you think Chinese people know about Digg? We're all just people. Tell me the difference between you and me. Stop the stereotypes and face the reality.
- wTheOnew, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1The difference? We bitch if an ISP does anything to our connection let alone a government.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -3/+5i live in LA. Learn about digg!
- SpectralSounds, on 04/02/2008, -2/+1The posters nick didn't tip you off, did it?
- LiquidIse, on 04/02/2008, -1/+17This IS their frigging business.
- khail250, on 04/02/2008, -11/+1but not ours
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -9/+4thank Khail! Americans think all business their business like a soap opera.
- wTheOnew, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1I'm pretty sure it is our business, and the Chinese, and everyone else planning on attending. So while you argument may work for other articles relating to the horrible condition of human rights in China, it doesn't work for this one.
- khail250, on 04/02/2008, -11/+1but not ours
- Myonosken, on 04/02/2008, -0/+10So you WANT filtering? Thats the only reason you could have for why you are opposed to a body pressuring China to reform.
- positron, on 04/02/2008, -1/+5Suzy is apparently Chinese. Suzy speaks English. Either Suzy is a Chinese immigrant with who can afford a level of romantic nationalist feelings toward China since she isn't actually effected by it's policies, or one of the privileged and well-educated Chinese ruling elite who benefits from China's authoritarianism.
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -4/+2effected? what effected?
- positron, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4Terribly sorry about that Frau Grammar Nazi. Have you brought a "misspeller" badge for me to wear in public before you send me off to the camps?
- suzywang3000, on 04/02/2008, -4/+2effected? what effected?
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -1/+0China's got some history of imperial powers (relatively recently, Japan.. and earlier, European ones) coming in and causing a ruckus. There's a strong sentiment there that they want to do things on their 'own' (the government elite is hardly the people, but at least they look similar and vaguely share the same culture) terms. Part of the reason they're surprisingly good at tolerating the Chinese government is that they're just glad it's Chinese and not bowing to outside powers. So it's quite possible that she wants people outside of China to 'mind their own business' while still wanting her internet to eventually be uncensored.
- positron, on 04/02/2008, -1/+5Suzy is apparently Chinese. Suzy speaks English. Either Suzy is a Chinese immigrant with who can afford a level of romantic nationalist feelings toward China since she isn't actually effected by it's policies, or one of the privileged and well-educated Chinese ruling elite who benefits from China's authoritarianism.
- wTheOnew, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1So... Chinese reading an article that's not favorable to the Chinese government? That's no good...
- darkchild82, on 04/02/2008, -2/+19Chinese huh ?
- RSnote, on 04/02/2008, -1/+10One of the requirements of the Olympic committee is complete unfiltered access of the Internet from within the country. The only problem is will this new found freedom go unnoticed, or will it lead to further improvements in areas like civil rights and democracy.
- lee1199, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Either way it can only be a good thing for the Chinese people. Id say communism in China is a dying beast, look what happened in Russia when they opened the door a crack to more freedoms, the same will happen in China. And once this does happen that will be Tibet's best chance for freedom.
- f54280, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1> look what happened in Russia when they opened the door a crack to more freedoms, the same will happen in China. And once this does happen that will be Tibet's best chance for freedom.
Sure. Like in Chechnya...
/sarcasm
- f54280, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1> look what happened in Russia when they opened the door a crack to more freedoms, the same will happen in China. And once this does happen that will be Tibet's best chance for freedom.
- lee1199, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Either way it can only be a good thing for the Chinese people. Id say communism in China is a dying beast, look what happened in Russia when they opened the door a crack to more freedoms, the same will happen in China. And once this does happen that will be Tibet's best chance for freedom.
- The_Wallbanger, on 04/02/2008, -0/+39Chances are the Chinese gov't will supply software to journalists that will allow select individuals access to the unfettered internet. The billion others in the country will not be so fortunate.
- omniunit, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1only seconds after it is released it will already be pirated...
- brjohnson789, on 04/02/2008, -1/+57Either China will setup special access for a few reporters etc, or they will just tell the IOC to go fudge themselves. I bet on the latter, and the IOC will just tuck its tail and say 'well ok, we don't want any problems here'
- digitallysick, on 04/02/2008, -2/+4Italics! Nooo! As a side note, china will not do this, wouldn't want your citizens to get a taste of freedom that you have worked so hard to suppress.
- steamedrice11, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1lol. the Chinese is still in Communism for a reason. Trust me, if China all the sudden switch to Democracy, the country will be a mess. First of all, the Chinese government and its people have no experience of a democratic society. Think how much ignorant or illiterate people there are right now in China. If you expect these people to vote and select their leaders, a simple speech or a quick TV program can change their minds on who to vote for. I do agree that simple human rights should not be suppressed, but letting the people make national decisions is just too soon. For your information I do NOT support Communism. I do believe democracy is a mature practice for the contemporary world. China is namely in Communism but their society is not Communist. I'm a citizen of PRC and for all my life I've been able to purchase goods of my choice and have my own sum of money and properties. If China is pure Communism, then I would have to hand over all my money to the government, work for the government, and consume products they issue to me. My point is China is currently Communism to keep itself stable. I believe when China have the ability to EFFECTIVELY educate its people and step out of the traditional practices, China will become a nation with democracy.
- objectivist, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1The Problem with "educating people" and forcing your value system and beliefs on them, instead of letting it be developed as nature intended. Through curiosity, self-responsibility, and freedom. Self-responsibility requires freedom and freedom requires self-responsibility. The point is that when you educate people, you are training them for a world that no longer exists. Look at America's Educational disaster for examples.
- steamedrice11, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1lol. the Chinese is still in Communism for a reason. Trust me, if China all the sudden switch to Democracy, the country will be a mess. First of all, the Chinese government and its people have no experience of a democratic society. Think how much ignorant or illiterate people there are right now in China. If you expect these people to vote and select their leaders, a simple speech or a quick TV program can change their minds on who to vote for. I do agree that simple human rights should not be suppressed, but letting the people make national decisions is just too soon. For your information I do NOT support Communism. I do believe democracy is a mature practice for the contemporary world. China is namely in Communism but their society is not Communist. I'm a citizen of PRC and for all my life I've been able to purchase goods of my choice and have my own sum of money and properties. If China is pure Communism, then I would have to hand over all my money to the government, work for the government, and consume products they issue to me. My point is China is currently Communism to keep itself stable. I believe when China have the ability to EFFECTIVELY educate its people and step out of the traditional practices, China will become a nation with democracy.
- nwoantibody, on 04/02/2008, -12/+13China replies: "You come here to do sports like monkeys well trained to do so. Stfu and stick sports."
Diggers: "Wtf? ***** you China! Boycott!"
Folks... China has enough people to create a new Internet from scratch. Oh, and by the way, boycott China, are you out of your ***** mind? All our industries moved there; we boycott China and it means we stop eating, dressing, living altogether. So beyond sounding cool and "rebellious", we're not boycotting China because we can't.- SemiSarcastic, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8You make a really good point, but this is a activist trend site now. Just sit back and this will blow over in a few more weeks only to be replaced with more Obama news and environmentalist articles.
- Versh, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1Posted August 24rd 2008:
The 2008 Olympics just ended-- man, I'm glad I spent more time posting about boycotting on that one activist aggregate-news site than actually boycotting-- huh, what?! Global Warming is still going on? Save me Ron Paul! Linus FTW! ***** the RIAA! Olry?
-_-
- Versh, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1Posted August 24rd 2008:
- hmunkey, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3A large scale trade embargo would work. India and southeast Asia along with South America could all provide equally cheap supplies.
- visnovsky, on 04/02/2008, -6/+2Yes, we all can see what the real truth is in the Chinese Olympics. But, the days of Communist suppression are limited, because there's a flicker of freedom in China now. The underground Christian Churches have multiplied beyond imagination. The Olympics are going to bring 100's of 1000's of freedom loving Christian messengers into China. There won't be enough Chinese Gestapo storm troopers to suppress all the foreign people from spreading the the Word or talking about Liberty! The Chinese Communists want to CENSOR and RESTRICT internet access at the Olympics. Go right ahead, because that will encourage more of us to take the Word to the streets. You can not arrest us all! I know what I am going to be doing! I do not encourage boycotting the Olympics, but PLEASE BOYCOT COKE COLA AND MCDONALDS FOR THEIR SHAMEFUL AND DISGRACEFUL SUPPORT OF THE CHINESE MURDERING OF UNARMED TIBETAN CIVILIANS AND MONKS. THEIR INVESTMENTS HAVE ARMED AND FUELED THE CHINESE ARMY IN TIBET. WHERE IS COKE COLA's AND MCDONALDS' CORPORATE VALUES AND RESPONSIBILITY! THEY SURE ARE NOT PRACTICING WHAT THEY PREACH ON THEIR WEBSITES!
- bingobongony, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4You can say that again! And I am sure you will.
- colin8651, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2The US state dept is going to have it's work cut out for it when China decides that anyone can come to the games, but not all are free to go home.
- Versh, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2Attention visnovsky... please leave the internet.... thank you...
(This is like your 12th copy&pasted comment! Give it a rest.)
- h4mx0r, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1But spreading the idea that we need to rely less on China is important. Just look at ourselves today..
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8You make a really good point, but this is a activist trend site now. Just sit back and this will blow over in a few more weeks only to be replaced with more Obama news and environmentalist articles.
- debuffplx, on 04/02/2008, -16/+2I respect China for wanting to protect itself from the brutal religious regimes of the past. Everyone who doesn't know jack about history thinks it's such a tragedy when China squashes these fools.
- iamondigghaha, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8The Tibetans? Are you ***** kidding me? I know something about Chinese history, and you are being ***** ignorant.
- sputnike, on 04/02/2008, -1/+6@bebuffplx
Germany doesn't go blocking access to sites that talk about the Nazi party and what Germany did in both world wars. Spain doesn't go blocking access about the Spanish Armada and their attacks on the world. The US & UK don't block access to information about times in which it forced slavery...
Your point?
- sputnike, on 04/02/2008, -1/+6@bebuffplx
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -1/+7"I respect China ..."
as in the government?
'um no, just no.
- iamondigghaha, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8The Tibetans? Are you ***** kidding me? I know something about Chinese history, and you are being ***** ignorant.
- wiretapped, on 04/02/2008, -0/+25I read in the BBC article that they are only calling for the internet to be opened up for the media village, not the entire country of China.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7324 ... - 9bpm9, on 04/02/2008, -7/+4China shouldn't change just because some crap organization wants them too. China should change on its own, or it will never fully change in any way, they will just show the world what they want to see, and do the dirty stuff behind closed doors.
- ilovepie1985, on 04/02/2008, -1/+5They seem to already be opening up some sites, i've noticed a lot more chinese people on a few social networking sites lately. Plus the BBC reported last that they had been unblocked in China including news articles about Tibet.
- huangweiqiu, on 04/02/2008, -4/+2Actually,our government only blocks those adult websites and bias news from western media.We can browse most of websites,not so strict as you guy said.Most of us support government to to that.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -7/+2You're full of *****. 'Most of us' eh? You mean the terrified masses who will be murdered quietly and forgotten if they cross a Party boss. Go fellate Mao's corpse or something, commie.
- steamedrice11, on 04/02/2008, -2/+3STFU. if u cant make mature comments then dont. idk how you got your view of China, you definitely need to step out of your media-influenced mind and see the world with your own eyes. dumb *****
- steamedrice11, on 04/02/2008, -2/+2you think the Chinese people are all commies without any morals and see lives as merely numbers eh? You think the government of China are filled with patriotic extremists whom would do anything to accomplish their goals eh? A functioning nation is more than that, China is not the KKK. So quit basing your views upon stereotypes and GET YOUR POINTS STRAIGHT before calling other people "you're full of *****". go blow your steam somewhere else.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -7/+2You're full of *****. 'Most of us' eh? You mean the terrified masses who will be murdered quietly and forgotten if they cross a Party boss. Go fellate Mao's corpse or something, commie.
- huangweiqiu, on 04/02/2008, -4/+2Actually,our government only blocks those adult websites and bias news from western media.We can browse most of websites,not so strict as you guy said.Most of us support government to to that.
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3The articles seems to suggest this would (sadly) just be so foreign journalists can do business. But there are always anonymous proxy servers... hopefully? be careful.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4There's already enough open to do business, so this looks like more a matter of principles and ideals. Sites that you might assume would be blocked, like CNN and plenty of other news sites, are open and at full speed (BBC News used to be blocked actually, but now it's not). They just wouldn't be able to go to wikipedia, which is a pain.
- jokeoftheday, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4It is good that China is under a close eye... sure, if they change, they should change on their own - thats an ok argument, but now they are getting a taste of world democracy, getting a taste of the pressure that people, not the 'peoples government' can do to change things, and for the better... lets hope they really understand that the world watching them... its time they act responsibly to their own people.
- amightywind, on 04/02/2008, -3/+12This Olympics could end up being a total fiasco! Tibet, Darfur, Taiwan, North Korea, border clashes with India, a wretched environment, and a visiting free press itching to embarrass the chicoms. One wonders why they even bother. I'll be watching in HD.
- HanSolo69, on 04/02/2008, -1/+3It would be cool if this actually did something. It would be equally cool to live in a world where organizations like the IOC (or the UN for that matter) don't simply resort to passive aggressive letter writing to try and sway people (or countries).
- MasterThief117, on 04/02/2008, -2/+5The Chinese government needs to stop being a bunch of fascist douche bags and unblock the Internet for everyone in the country and more importantly free Tibet.
I will certainly not be watching the Chinese Olympics. I hope others do not either.- Daniel591992, on 04/02/2008, -2/+3I totally agree that China needs to shape up, but what is not watching the Olympics going to do?
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1...
Jack *****?- AncientWeird, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2And Jack left town.
- koreth, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2It will reduce the event's television ratings and thus lead to a lower top bid for rights to cover the 2012 Olympics lower. That'll show those damn British not to mess with Tibet. (The 2012 Olympics are in London, and the TV networks have already paid their license fees to get the Beijing games.)
- bingobongony, on 04/02/2008, -2/+2In the US, NBC has already paid the licensing fees for the 2012 games too. So we may end up screwing Chicago, Illinois in 2016
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1...
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1Free Tibet? sure. but free China while you're at it.
- Daniel591992, on 04/02/2008, -2/+3I totally agree that China needs to shape up, but what is not watching the Olympics going to do?
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4If this article and these comments on it have taught me anything, its that people don't want to meet in the middle, but prefer on extreme over another. Which when you think about is no different that religious nuts preaching Armageddon and Killing in The Name of God.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2The same could be said for most Digg stories. Another phenomenon I've noticed is that it seems that once the digging of a comment gets going in a direction, it gathers momentum (up or down).
China had already said they'll open it in the village. I think the IOC's trying to make itself look tough without calling for boycott. It's a non-story.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2The same could be said for most Digg stories. Another phenomenon I've noticed is that it seems that once the digging of a comment gets going in a direction, it gathers momentum (up or down).
- EugineMW, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8How fortunate I do not live in China.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -1/+2Getting turned into a cheap-labor slave in some commie prison not good enough for ya, eh?
- visnovsky, on 04/02/2008, -8/+3Yes, we all can see what the real truth is in the Chinese Olympics. But, the days of Communist suppression are limited, because there's a flicker of freedom in China now. The underground Christian Churches have multiplied beyond imagination. The Olympics are going to bring 100's of 1000's of freedom loving Christian messengers into China. There won't be enough Chinese Gestapo storm troopers to suppress all the foreign people from spreading the the Word or talking about Liberty! The Chinese Communists want to CENSOR and RESTRICT internet access at the Olympics. Go right ahead, because that will encourage more of us to take the Word to the streets. You can not arrest us all! I know what I am going to be doing! I do not encourage boycotting the Olympics, but PLEASE BOYCOT COKE COLA AND MCDONALDS FOR THEIR SHAMEFUL AND DISGRACEFUL SUPPORT OF THE CHINESE MURDERING OF UNARMED TIBETAN CIVILIANS AND MONKS. THEIR INVESTMENTS HAVE ARMED AND FUELED THE CHINESE ARMY IN TIBET. WHERE IS COKE COLA's AND MCDONALDS' CORPORATE VALUES AND RESPONSIBILITY! THEY SURE ARE NOT PRACTICING WHAT THEY PREACH ON THEIR WEBSITES!
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -1/+0It's funny you mention Christianity. That's one of the few things that makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable in Canada (and the USA), since I don't want to upset anyone by making my difference in perspective open. This happens in school, and later on all around. It's not the government doing it though - it's ordinary people in numbers. There's more to living in a country than interaction with its government and its laws.
- Iczer21, on 04/02/2008, -0/+10Perhaps this is something to work out BEFORE you give out the bid.
- huangweiqiu, on 04/02/2008, -7/+1I support our government to filter the internet,chinese people no need adult websites,bias news.Please respect our culture ,diggers.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8You suck and the culture you describe sucks.
- Vician, on 04/02/2008, -3/+2Now there's an open view of the world... How about, oh, I dunno, you just suck? There's things about their culture we're never going to understand and we have to realize that. Just because you're a selfish ass doesn't make them wrong, it just makes them different. If Iraq taught the world anything, it's that sometimes things we don't like or condone work better than the other alternatives until the population itself is ready to change.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4The biased news he's referring to is the Tibet riot thing. Lots of Chinese were upset that no one suggested that reinforcements were needed to quell the riots that were burning down Han Chinese businesses, and stop the beatings on the street. The problems that led to an uprising were major mistakes which deserve criticism.. but I sort of agree that the 'crackdown' itself wasn't the real issue and the media was a little confused.
- objectivist, on 04/02/2008, -1/+3Respect China's Prison Culture, and it's Public School Prison System. Back to school for you loser! Huang Wei Qiu 是 二手货的人。。。：D (Second Hander)
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8You suck and the culture you describe sucks.
- KoolHow, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4huangweiqiu... you are an agent of the chinese government. ordinary chinese people cannot access digg. so you are getting paid to toe the party line... and paid to monitor and restrict the access of ordinary people. everyone free wants to explore options. it is natural curiosity.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -2/+0Digg works fine from China. So does Slashdot, and CNN, and plenty of other things you'd probably assume would be blocked. As for sites that are blocked, Wikipedia is one. Youtube has gone down sporadically, but is usually up. Can connect and get rickroll'd like anyone. There's a lot to criticize, but it should be done realistically for results.
- huangweiqiu, on 04/09/2008, -0/+1KooiHow,are you retard? KoolHow. BBC,ABCNEW,TIME,DIGG,FACEBOOK,LATIMES.....ALL ARE WORKING FINE IN CHINA! I am not a ***** agent of China,I am a common ITer who focus on Linux field,you can check my dugg history!Do you know how to use proxy?if you know,then you can try to use China proxy to browse internet to verify if i am correct or not!
- whatthefu, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2How are we regular people supposed to boycott the Olympics? It's not like anyone watches them anyway.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -2/+2Who could possibly resist watching Olympic curling, eh?
- BottledSunshine, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4Hey genius, curling is a Winter Olympics event.
- laserblazer, on 04/02/2008, -2/+2Who could possibly resist watching Olympic curling, eh?
- redpickle, on 04/02/2008, -3/+6I implore fellow diggers to read more into the Chinese-Tibet situation's history and not just to react emotionally to the recent media stories. There are large bits that everyone is missing in their arguments, most notably the CIA sponsored uprisings in 1957. If you will take the time to read about the support, training, weapons, and training camp (Camp Hale in Colorado) that the CIA provided at the time, you will see where the already fractious relationship between Tibet and China had completely come apart. When you train a non-violent people to start committing acts of violence, even if you believe it's for the greater good, there is something inherently wrong here. Everyone is quick to point the finger to this being China's oppressive rule, but I think it's a cop out. You CAN NOT live in a bubble and not try to understand the different elements of such a vast political situation.
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -1/+3Yeah. For an understanding, there is some similarity to what the situation would be if there were a native uprising in the USA. Their gripes are very real, and there have been deep injustices. They are still not strong relative to others and it really sucks. We know it's not fair that their land got taken, but at the same time, it would be unpopular to leave it alone and let it secede. If they did secede, who would secede next? North of Tibet, there is Xinjiang province which also has a separatist movement. Xinjiang also has China's largest fossil fuel deposits. It's unpopular in China to let it go. The government is acting in the majority's interest this time, which in other cases is what people want China to do, but when doing this quite often people still suffer.
- solid12345, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1You guys put too much blame on the CIA for crap that goes on in other nations. The CIA only trained 259 Tibetans for that uprising. Wow a whole 259!
- blagoaw, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1I wonder how the people criticizing China personally feel about life in their own country. Do you feel that life that good and meaningful to you, and that it's something you have the confidence to spread further? I envy you guys. China's actions don't look good, but I never felt so swell here either.
- alphavision, on 04/02/2008, -1/+3"China" in the news and politics seems to elicit a negative knee-jerk, emotional response from people in the same manner as the words "abortion" and "gay marriage" do. Other words are associated with China, such as Communists, evil, cheap unsafe goods, cheaters, inhumane, etc.. Some of the criticisms are deserving, and some are products of misunderstanding. It's important to have a deep understanding of the facts instead of just relying on your emotions.
With that said, I will respond to this article rationally and I urge other diggers to do the same. I support an open Internet in China. When I studied abroad in Shanghai, not having access to certain websites was something that I took for granted. In addition to blocking websites, I think the lack of quality network infrastructure plays a role in preventing the general population from acquiring information. I believe Chinese efforts to block Internet traffic is going to fail eventually as the network infrastructures improve with their development. Also, I believe Chinese Internet users that have a strong desire for outside information will become more adept with using proxy servers and encryption methods that allow them to bypass any kind of Internet surveillance. It's important to promote progress in this area, but we can't be too impatient and expect them to immediately open up everything. Gradually loosening restrictions will transition better than using abrupt methods.
Also in response to those that claim pollution in China is the reason for their decision to boycott the Olympics... I do not think there is any merit to that argument when the United States has 5% of the world population yet attributes to 20% of global carbon emissions. China has 20% of the world population and 20% of global carbon emissions. Reducing carbon emissions is our problem as much as their's. I hope our next presidency can work along side with China in implementing gradually reducing carbon emission caps on a year to year basis, and hopefully this cooperative effort can eliminate the animosity and misunderstandings we have for each other.
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ ... - grimward, on 04/02/2008, -0/+6IOC to china: could you please take a break from censoring your population while this contest is on? it's a terrible inconvenience because we uh.. we sort of need the internet for communication and such. You can turn that filter *right* back on after we've left, because we don't really care about the chinese citizens being oppressed, we just want to host our competition and sweep all those nasty questions and moral implications under the rug.
Seriously, this is incredibly disgraceful, even considering hosting it there is an insult to the community spirit and freedom that sports represent, it's a huge double moral which will stain the Olympics reputation, if it still has one left that is. - hokie47, on 04/02/2008, -1/+4Hey China, the spotlight can be a bitch.
- replaysMike, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3...open up and bend over.
- edgedmurasame, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1I doubt they're going to open Goatse to their public. For once, it'd be a good use of the filter, something rarely said of it.
- Nevermindz, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2I don't know if it's a coincidence or not but Wikipedia, which used to be constantly blocked, is now accessible from China since yesterday (Tuesday)!
Hurray!
// Nevermindz, a french Digger in China.- Wrangler76, on 04/02/2008, -0/+0I never understood why Digg was not blocked, and Wikipedia was. The articles about Tibet on Wikipedia are much more netural than they are on Digg, as are articles about Falun Gong (including accusations that it is a cult).
- youtellme8, on 04/02/2008, -2/+3America is childish in its militarism. A boycott would not be a meaningless gesture.
- JerodSlay, on 04/02/2008, -1/+8what a pointless measure. That's like saying "stop killing your people while the Olympics are going on." It doesn't bring any real change.
[Boycott] - Typhoon2009, on 04/02/2008, -0/+4For some reason I have this small feeling that something like the 1972 Olympics will happen.
- solid12345, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Will terrorists kidnap Mario and Sonic and execute them just when the two finally made peace on the world stage?
- userperson, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1Somebody needs to hack something to display a big ass picture of Tank Man in a very public place during a very public ceremony.
Don't get me wrong, don't do it, you could get executed -- I sure as hell wouldn't. Though if it were to occur it would be a beautiful thing.
- solid12345, on 04/02/2008, -0/+2Maybe I will be called the devil for saying this, but when is it in the interest of the Olympics to promote liberal democracy?
The purpose of the Olympics officially is to honor world athletes and foster peaceful competitive games between nations. It is supposed to be apolitical as an entity and how the host nation runs its affairs is none of its concern. - userperson, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/chinese-fire ...
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/15 ... - mojonandha, on 04/02/2008, -1/+1And bush is going there because he accepted the invitation early last year before some of these conflicts started and because he made a promise to a dictator? what about all the promises he made to the americans? ***** THIS. This Politics!
- WikiEasy, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3It's time to send in Borat to interview the Chinese during the Olympics.
- godplaysdnd, on 04/08/2008, -0/+0Throw the tibetan down the well, so my country can be free.
- WatchDogX, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Isnt it ironic this is coming from AOL news
- KaJuN4, on 04/02/2008, -0/+3Why can't we just appreciate the Olympics for what they stand for: the coming-together of nations in friendly competition. Dragging politics into it takes away the spirit of the games.
- newyear123, on 04/02/2008, -0/+0Why there is so much problem in Beijing? Hope all will end in time befor Beijing Olympics
I was so much excited about Beijing Olympics that I have started One blo for that...http://beijing-olympic-games2008.blogspot.com/ - hayashi, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1IOC just now realized they should've asked for this?
- Crisender111, on 04/02/2008, -2/+1CHINA IS EVIL.
- godplaysdnd, on 04/08/2008, -0/+0CAPS MEANS YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, AMIRITE?
- spanglegluppet, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1I doubt anything will come of this, but I still commend the IOC for speaking up about this.
- ly4u, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1China: no politis no politis plis onli sport
- VegasJack, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1I doubt they will do it, but this is a very interesting development. The pressure is definitely on.
- danielknight, on 04/02/2008, -1/+0Atheists allowing anyone think for themselves? Hah, they (the chinese communist atheists) even set up their own fake Christian church to tell Christians how to think. How can atheists tell people what to think about God if they don't believe he exists? So stupid and nutty they are.
- godplaysdnd, on 04/08/2008, -0/+0Praise Jebus
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