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- JackCrow, on 10/27/2007, -6/+519"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
- nihilite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+127drink your victory gin. smoke your victory cigarettes. don't worry about these kinds of things - the government loves you.
- lazerus9, on 10/28/2007, -4/+59Four legs good two legs bad.
- TheBigBrother, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Surely you do not want Jones to come back!
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1dugg for animal farm reference
- sustren, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Buried for ruining it.
- victorycig, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Smoke me, baby!
- lazerus9, on 10/28/2007, -4/+59Four legs good two legs bad.
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -8/+134What. The. *****.
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+96Seriously, does this ***** go on at the national level?
- colombianbludmn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Watch C-Span and C-Span2 and you'll know. I hope this motivates people to watch their politicians and make sure to hold them accountable.
- colombianbludmn, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Watch C-Span and C-Span2 and you'll know. I hope this motivates people to watch their politicians and make sure to hold them accountable.
- etruscan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Since this is Texas, they should just sit a sniper up on the balcony during voting. That would force these bastards to think twice.
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5jesus christ, i live in texas...and i thought "how your lawmakers vote" meant how some lawmakers in some random state in the US vote :D
- mrcabnit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4That guy they interviewed sounds like the principal from beavis and butthead
- jjw269, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's called "vote by proxy" happens at all levels of government.
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+96Seriously, does this ***** go on at the national level?
- fatdog789, on 10/10/2007, -68/+3I'm going to mark this video as inaccurate, as only Texas lawmakers are allowed to vote this way. Neither the federal government, nor any other state, allows voting in this manner. (Note, though, that even in TX, the lawmakers can do this only because they waived their own rule prohibiting this.)
- p0s3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+52Watch the video before you mark it as inaccurate. It clearly states that they are NOT allowed to vote that way.
- senatorpjt, on 10/10/2007, -21/+4Yeah, but it says that they decide how to punish themselves.
- TheVirus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19It still doesn't make it right, asshat.
- Impeller, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1you win... digg for asshat...
- senatorpjt, on 10/10/2007, -21/+4Yeah, but it says that they decide how to punish themselves.
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6And I'm going to have to mark you as a naive dumb-ass. This isn't allowed anywhere. The point is that they do it anyway! I can almost guarantee you that this is the norm in most legislatures.
- p0s3r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+52Watch the video before you mark it as inaccurate. It clearly states that they are NOT allowed to vote that way.
- Augie1969, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24"Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure. On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2dugg for animal farm reference....
- guichetroo, on 10/15/2007, -4/+90EVERYTHING'S BIGGER IN TEXAS...even the hypocracy.
- bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -20/+3You misspelled a word.
- ihascheezburger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Give it a rest, buddy.
- xister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Or at least be witty about it.
- etruscan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Shut up you hypocrat.
- bruenig, on 10/10/2007, -20/+3You misspelled a word.
- Zackypooh, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12Four legs goood, two legs better!
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1you fail it.
- sjl127, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25My jaw dropped - I have no faith, nor trust in our government at all. Probably never will.
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Welcome to reality! I'm always glad to see a fellow citizen realize what a joke governments are. I can't even imagine why anybody still has any faith in government. Until we take matter into our own hands, politicians will always do whatever they want.
- CWal37, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I have faith in government, because I have faith in myself. Not necessarily this current bureaucracy, but in the idea of government itself. What do you mean by "take matter into our hands"(missing 's' aside)? That you're going to lead a revolution against those fascist pigs in Washington using the rebel army you raised on digg?
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Welcome to reality! I'm always glad to see a fellow citizen realize what a joke governments are. I can't even imagine why anybody still has any faith in government. Until we take matter into our own hands, politicians will always do whatever they want.
- darkblast93, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Best. comment. ever.
- laughmore, on 10/10/2007, -18/+1Downloadhelper, a free firefox addon, to download this WTF video to your desktop and share it with everyone
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/300 ... - DocHoliday22, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Politicians in there natural habitat. If you're all very quite you can watch them feed on hypocrisy and fear.
- passedoutghost, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Ironic isn't it? Animal Farm was a satire on the Soviet Union and yet this ***** is happening.
- dlsspy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+32 votes bad. 4 votes good.
- nihilite, on 10/10/2007, -1/+127drink your victory gin. smoke your victory cigarettes. don't worry about these kinds of things - the government loves you.
- Rohhob, on 10/24/2007, -5/+872I hate politicians more and more everyday.
- neurosport, on 10/10/2007, -3/+52not enough ...
- sakuraz, on 10/10/2007, -18/+4be one.
I'll vote for ya. - Eska, on 10/10/2007, -1/+89and I would vote for ya twice...or maybe three times. ;)
- ZippyV, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Digg is so unfair.
- Chewie67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+66This is just sickening.
- maliath, on 10/10/2007, -0/+53I can tell you for sure that they aren't busy and "missing bathroom breaks" like she says in the video. If they aren't on the floor voting, they're either in the back offices smoking cigars and drinking whiskey or at the bar across the street.
- Mooco, on 10/10/2007, -25/+5...uh, last time i checked, they still come from the everyday hustle and bustle of american life. So, they're still american citizens. Maybe if you stopped saying they sucked and started voting for the right ones you wouldn't have anything to complain about. The local level matters, otherwise these douchebags wouldn't even have a place to start.
- maliath, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11The Texas House pays close to nothing in salary, therefore only the well-to-do who get income from elsewhere are able to be reps and still have a decent income. And they sure as hell want to keep it that way. So, no, they are not from the everyday hustle and bustle of american life. (There are a couple of exceptions who live in trailer homes.)
- petewiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"last time i checked"
When was that, exactly?
"Maybe if you stopped saying they sucked and started voting for the right ones you wouldn't have anything to complain about."
Not too many "right ones" running for public office. Campaign Contributors > The People. Money speaks volumes. Why else would the "top tier" candidates always be shady agenda-pushing assholes? (***** Giuliani)
- maygle, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0The commonality of the politicians.
http://www.maygle.com/google?q=%7Efight%7C%7Ebrawl ... - nucleararms, on 10/10/2007, -1/+69I think its funny that it takes more time to vote twice on digg than it is in the Texas state legislature.
- mraustin1337, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Digg voting is more important, it has to be more secure.
- etruscan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15I dugg your comment up, on your behalf.
- nucleararms, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10thank you for your treason
- etruscan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Any time.
- nucleararms, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10thank you for your treason
- userperson, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Don't waste your energy they're not worth it.
- Gump9005, on 10/18/2007, -5/+467Periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”
-Thomas Jefferson- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+79I hope it isn't coming to that..... But our fore-fathers fought for our freedom in the past. I would fight if i had to.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Well Americans seem to think that they can just sit around and hope that they don't have to make any kind of sacrifice near the kind that those who created our country did, but you know the phrase... "wish in one hand, ***** in the other..."
- Mizzike, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7...and see which one gets filled first.
- Jeffmr1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Hopefully we won't have to, there's a political fight going on right now...you know which revolution im talking about.
- ihascheezburger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I wouldnt mind another revolution. I dont like how things are being run here.
- Infidelephant, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6Sooo... who would you be fighting - and with what? Your hand-gun?
A true revolution in this country seems just about impossible in this day and age given that our beloved government ALSO runs the military. If we were to stand up and fight, we would be immediately crushed by the weaponry, technology, training, etc that our own tax dollars (ironically) has been funding - and they know it.
Back when Jefferson made that statement, it was pretty much equal. It's no longer like that. I don't mean to be a naysayer, but an uprising by the citizenry (given that we could get enough people off their fat, lazy asses) would be suicide.- MrFunions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I think you underestimate the power of technological warfare. Not to mention I have faith that some in the military would take the other side.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Well Americans seem to think that they can just sit around and hope that they don't have to make any kind of sacrifice near the kind that those who created our country did, but you know the phrase... "wish in one hand, ***** in the other..."
- jrizzo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44Just tell me where the revolution is. Hackers with mentos and diet coke are far more dangerous than terrorists.
- shinynew, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1well as long as they dont buy a dog i think the internet hate machines would be down.
- luciferin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18In some way it has to come to it. Maybe not pitchforks or guns but if nothing else electing someone who will actually remove all of these hacks from office! We need to clean up or our system is going to fail. It's as simple as that.
The revolution is either going to be politicians loosing their jobs or the rest of America.- pdevries, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7And how are we going to elect someone else? They system is designed specifically so that only the corrupt get to run anyway. Ron Paul isn't the perfect candidate for me but even if he was it won't matter. He won't be on the ticket so he won't win.
- eggo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Well, you could vote in the primary.... but I guess that's too much work.
- gn0stik, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Ron Paul worked in that very room, do you think he's exempt from that behavior?
- PoopStick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I would like to know
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1At a minimum, he should have spoken up about it.
- gn0stik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Write him in if you have to. No more lesser of two evils.
- art42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If another con gets into the WH in 2008 it will be the final nail in the USA's coffin.
Think about what another CON seated on SCOTUS would do...
- art42, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If another con gets into the WH in 2008 it will be the final nail in the USA's coffin.
- pdevries, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7And how are we going to elect someone else? They system is designed specifically so that only the corrupt get to run anyway. Ron Paul isn't the perfect candidate for me but even if he was it won't matter. He won't be on the ticket so he won't win.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+87"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Same Dude.- Andronicus1717, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2"Patriotism is a virtue of the the wicked."
-Actor dude, reading lines by writer dude, quoting other dude, Oscar Wilde.
Where are the guidance chips?
- Andronicus1717, on 10/22/2007, -0/+2"Patriotism is a virtue of the the wicked."
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -11/+1Nice strip-quoting.
- trippinlikegod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Maybe pitchforks and guns and torches is exactly what we need.
- isaactwito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah, if only people would listen to reason. The only thing I could see being organized would be a digger uprising, and that wouldn't quite be as big of a movement as necessary.
- tradwolley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10As long as the gathering has free wi-fi count me in.
- isaactwito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah, if only people would listen to reason. The only thing I could see being organized would be a digger uprising, and that wouldn't quite be as big of a movement as necessary.
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14It seems to me that our government is set up so that we can have a revolution without firing a shot. Though this is highly unlikely, all Americans could vote for and support a “bi-partisan” reform movement with a legally binding pledge to do nothing other then replace all partisan members of the legislative and executive branches of the government, and then quickly reform all elements of our system that have become stagnant, cumbersome, or rife with corruption. Once this was done, the special reform government could call for a special election in which they would all step down and allow for a full election of the entire government. The only hindrance to this is the staggering of the legislative elections.
Or we can get a bunch of guns, and run around in the streets until the government “says” it hears us and “pretends” it cares.- fanclerks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8You're still assuming that the law makers will make the referendum to vote on something like that. They're not going to make some drastic change like that that'll threaten their livelihood.
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Well that’s why it would have to be a third party that is not in any way affiliated with the current system. All you really need are a bunch of people who are good at solving problems and sick of our current system. That really shouldn’t be hard. And then you need to make the rest of the country aware of their existence. That’s the hard part.
- shinynew, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If people are willing to elect an 19 year old in the first year of college ill run, I am not a law maker, destorying how it currently works sounds fine with me.
- positron, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Doesn't matter WHO you vote for when they are the ones who have set up the rules that allow them to control who you CAN vote for. Why do you think there are only two parties that have any tangible power in this country?
- MrFunions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What we really need is a constitutional convention.
- toxicshok, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm sure the government would more than "pretend" to hear you if you had guns
- shinynew, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ok, so who is up to be voted in? We will need quite a bit of people, enough to take a majority in all state legislation, both national, and of course the executive.
Not to mention once they get into office they will be faced with huge pressure from overseas for changes, including the evacuation of troops. So are we going to completely ignore the other countries for atleast a month or two probably much much more even before the second elections come.
- fanclerks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8You're still assuming that the law makers will make the referendum to vote on something like that. They're not going to make some drastic change like that that'll threaten their livelihood.
- hydrodev, on 10/10/2007, -10/+5i call for all that are willing to commence with revolution to do so.
Dont want to pay even more billions for the wars?
Can't stand seeing videos like this?
Do you think the gov't is really as bad as is posted on digg everyday?
THAN WHATS THE ***** HOLD UP?
REVOLUTION!!!!- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright
You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright
You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright Alright
- trogdoor, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3You say you want a revolution
- fatdog789, on 10/10/2007, -9/+6You dumbasses know that he was referring to *political* revolution, not violent revolution, right?
The miracle of the Constitutional framework was the bloodless revolution between parties when Jefferson's Democratic Party replaced Adams' Federalist party. A revolution like that had never occurred before.- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6And you know this because...
What about the extremely bloody American Revolution? That wasn't a revolution?
I'm sure you're right, I mean it's not like they gave us the right to bear arms or anything... - scubasteve377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Really? A *political* revolution? Let's examine the full quote shall, we?
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
Somewhere between "Let them take arms" and "the blood of patriots and tyrants" I get the impression he was talking about the violent kind.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6And you know this because...
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1to expand the quote above:
"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+79I hope it isn't coming to that..... But our fore-fathers fought for our freedom in the past. I would fight if i had to.
- Xtremecreations, on 10/10/2007, -17/+108To think I cared about politics once upon a time...I thought I would be shocked, but sadly I'm not surprised. I'm becoming apathetic in my not so old age.
- nihilite, on 10/10/2007, -2/+56good... guess you know who to blame when 40% of the population votes and another Bush gets elected.
- loudintl, on 10/10/2007, -5/+38Diebold.
- s1mph0ny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3...wasn't even established in the 2000 election.
- loudintl, on 10/10/2007, -5/+38Diebold.
- anodos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+71What!?! As corruption increases, your response is to become more apathetic?! This is the problem with our country! The more corrupt politicians become, the more apathetic we become in response! It should be exactly the other way around.
- macweirdo42, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14Most people seem to think it's fine. I mean, I get all riled up about this sort of thing, but it's disheartening to know that 99% of the population really doesn't give a *****. It takes a toll on you. Plus, I mean, the more you get into the filth and corruption, the more the average Joe on the street says "Get a life... If you had a family to take care of, you wouldn't have time to worry about these things, so clearly the fact you do means that you're a worthless piece of ***** anyway."
- petewiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah really, what words come to mind when you hear the word "politician"? It's like a synonym for "corrupt piece of *****". I can't stand how these people don't care about the rampant corruption that permeates our government.
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think it's clear from nihilite's comment that he is becoming apathetic TOWARDS POLITICIANS. Can you blame him? Who wouldn't be disappointed with this system when they see the corruption and total disregard for the well-being of the general population? For example, the people that don't vote have a damn good reason not to vote. Imagine you've voted every four years for two decades, and you've never once seen an improvement in the quality of your life or anyone in your community. Would you still go out there and give validity to a ***** entertainment show like the "elections"?
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+31Apathy is the very mechanism that led to the ***** of America.
- scubasteve377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Let me first say, that I agree and I dugg you up. That said, the first half of your sentence made it sound like you were headed toward something a little more profound than "the ***** of America." But hey, if the shoe fits, right?
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It was the simplest way that I could express both the idea and the magnitude of the situation.
- scubasteve377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Let me first say, that I agree and I dugg you up. That said, the first half of your sentence made it sound like you were headed toward something a little more profound than "the ***** of America." But hey, if the shoe fits, right?
- kaelyiesta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11Funny, these things are making me more and more homicidal. Not apathetic.
These are the people controlling you and I. These are the people that have no longer any concern with the constitution nor the will of the people. These are the people we should be fighting against. Here they are, fully exposed and here you are apathetic. If their guilt is beyond any reasonable doubt and still we cannot bring ourselves to care, then perhaps we are deserving of this fate. - Saea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1For a student legislative program our county had for the excelled students, we went to the state capitol.
We were paired up with different politicians, the the one my friend got stuck with didn't listen to briefings. Why?
Because he only voted how the guy behind him did.
- nihilite, on 10/10/2007, -2/+56good... guess you know who to blame when 40% of the population votes and another Bush gets elected.
- MaximusIGN, on 10/28/2007, -1/+375WTF!! I can't stand the "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality of government where it's ok for them to blatantly break laws and get away it...
Who's going to govern the government?!- derforseti, on 10/10/2007, -0/+148That's the job of the people; and they appear to be slacking.
- sa7ouri, on 10/28/2007, -3/+61I'm not American, so I can't do anything. But besides bitching about it, what are Americans doing to fix things?
Nothing. So the American people are just as complacent.
The real problem is that Americans now don't know how and why they are the super power in this world. They take this fact for granted. It was great respect for freedom, the law and very hard work that brought them there. Unfortunately, money has penetrated every corner of their lives, and undreamed-of riches from the stock market has created a generation of lazy, capitalistic drones, who only care about whether the next quarter will meet financial expectations. Gone are the days of the AT&T labs doing research for the sake of research. Nowadays, if it doesn't impact next quarter's bottom line in a positive way, then it's axed.
This is slowly showing its repercussions. Japanese and European research is way ahead of American research in many technologies. The fact that the US is still a cheap place to live in slightly negates this effect as many ppl choose to immigrate to the US, but the declining economic situation is starting to worry many of them.
Yes, American companies are still up there, among the best, but arguably they are still reaping the benefits of 60 year-old technologies based on the transistor. Most of today's innovation is done elsewhere.
Americans need to wake up before it's too late. Then again, history shows us that every super power is vulnerable, and eventually brings out its own demise.- ihascheezburger, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Well, we obviously cant vote our way to "fix things" cause our damn representatives don't vote how we want them to. Thats the problem about any government. Who's to say that the people who represent your vote are not lying through their teeth all the way through their campaign? Once they're there, it takes a few years before their out.
Happened at my local school board, my parents helped get this woman onto the board and now she turned on every person that voted for her. So, of course, she probably wont stay in there for long, but how can we trust the next candidate?
Not saying you don't have a good point mate, but what do us Americans do? - scubasteve377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I agree to a point, however, it is a lack of capitalism that is destroying us. Capitalism (free enterprise) is what made this country great. Virtually all new technology and innovation, comes from market competition and you are kidding yourself if you think AT&T funded research for the hell of it. Profit is always the bottom line, but that is the nature of business. Its not a bad thing.
Over the last century, however, government regulation in the economy has grown and with it the power of lobbyists to influence those government regulations. Telecoms, like AT&T, have been granted regional monopolies by the government, so they no longer need to innovate to attract customers, so progress slows to a crawl. This is corporatism, not capitalism, and it has permeated virtually every corner of the economy, from health care to defense contracts.
Unfortunately many (if not most) people do not recognize the distinction, and wrongly attribute the characteristic failure of corporatism to capitalism. This often leads to cries for more government (socialism), which is, of course, a tried and true method of bringing progress to a screeching halt. Unfortunately, I think we are too dumb to take lessons from history and will have to learn this painful lesson the hard way. - NeilJ, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2If this comment were on Slashdot, it would be modded +5, Insightful. Americans are just as complacent as you say.
Also, as an American I'm doing everything within my power to stop this downward spiral. However most everyone else around won't do a thing even though they are aware of it.
- ihascheezburger, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Well, we obviously cant vote our way to "fix things" cause our damn representatives don't vote how we want them to. Thats the problem about any government. Who's to say that the people who represent your vote are not lying through their teeth all the way through their campaign? Once they're there, it takes a few years before their out.
- sa7ouri, on 10/28/2007, -3/+61I'm not American, so I can't do anything. But besides bitching about it, what are Americans doing to fix things?
- maou, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26I unno...coast guard?
- mlostracco, on 10/10/2007, -1/+57The problem is that the level of discipline leveled by breaking that rule is supposed to be DECIDED BY THE SAME GODDAMN PEOPLE doing the rule-breaking.
So, in other words, zero.
Despicable. - donte, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11It's the people's job to govern government and most people waste their vote on Donkey or Elephant. People just just vote against the incumbent no matter what party they are. Clean house. Let politicians know that their cushy job is going to be scrapped if you don't cater to the will of the people. But that's just wishful thinking.
- mwosh, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4To me, this seems like an easy fix. Use some of that massive budget they've got and get biometric fingerprint scans instead of buttons that look like they came straight from Mattel.
- CannedMango, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Who watches the watchmen?
- oneoverzero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
- derforseti, on 10/10/2007, -0/+148That's the job of the people; and they appear to be slacking.
- rabidmonkey1, on 10/21/2007, -81/+561Dr. Ron Paul cured me of my apathy...
Digg me whichever way you want, I stand by a true statesman, not a "politician."- RunawayElf, on 10/28/2007, -7/+545Can I digg you multiple times for other digg members that aren't present?
- rexbron, on 10/10/2007, -21/+1As noble the intent maybe, isn't what the Texas lawmakers are doing?
- misconstrued, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18You aren't very quick are you? ;)
- TeamoSupremo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+39Hey, who used up my digg?!
- rexbron, on 10/10/2007, -21/+1As noble the intent maybe, isn't what the Texas lawmakers are doing?
- seraph582, on 10/10/2007, -70/+17omg this ron paul circle jerkery is starting to get scary
- gottadiggit, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Be scared, be very scared. We are ready for change and people like you will not detract us from our decision.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12Scary that you haven't bothered to take enough interest in your country to educate yourself on the candidates? Yes, I agree, I am scared, because of the fact that there are still a large number of people like you out there.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5So getting tired of people yanking off to Ron Paul = not educating yourself? Did it ever occur to you that maybe he DID take a look at the candidates and doesn't support Ron Paul, or maybe he does support Ron Paul but is tired of the hype? Get over yourself. You and the rest of the Ron Paul fanatics (which does not necessarily equate to a Ron Paul supporter).
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The only problem is, if you're a Republican and you don't support Paul, then you support one of the other candidates. Which by default means you're either uneducated or retarded.
It's not even an issue of whether you agree where the candidates stand on each issue, because all of them are typical slimy politicians, and shouldn't be trusted. Paul is the only genuine candidate.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8The only problem is, if you're a Republican and you don't support Paul, then you support one of the other candidates. Which by default means you're either uneducated or retarded.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5So getting tired of people yanking off to Ron Paul = not educating yourself? Did it ever occur to you that maybe he DID take a look at the candidates and doesn't support Ron Paul, or maybe he does support Ron Paul but is tired of the hype? Get over yourself. You and the rest of the Ron Paul fanatics (which does not necessarily equate to a Ron Paul supporter).
- petewiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Even if you don't like Ron Paul, do any of the other candidates, especially the "popular" ones, seem like they would do a better job?
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1So don't ***** vote! Why must we give validity to these "elections"? We get to put a little 'X' next to one of two names every four years and we are satisfied?
- CWal37, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2We vote because it's our right. If you could actually change everything, and I don't mean just weed out the corruption (everyone wants that), what would you do? Install a new socialist government? A facist one? What? What exactly do you want? A PR electoral system over our current majoritarian one? I haven't even been 18 for a year and I've already voted in several elections. The presidential one isn't the only one that affects the common citizen. A lot of the time your local ones can have an even greater impact.
Basically what you're saying is to be silently complicit with something you dislike. Your vote is your political voice. Use it or STFU. Making veiled conspiracist comments on digg isn't going to get any ***** done.
- CWal37, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2We vote because it's our right. If you could actually change everything, and I don't mean just weed out the corruption (everyone wants that), what would you do? Install a new socialist government? A facist one? What? What exactly do you want? A PR electoral system over our current majoritarian one? I haven't even been 18 for a year and I've already voted in several elections. The presidential one isn't the only one that affects the common citizen. A lot of the time your local ones can have an even greater impact.
- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1So don't ***** vote! Why must we give validity to these "elections"? We get to put a little 'X' next to one of two names every four years and we are satisfied?
- techmonkey4u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Better a Ron Paul circle jerk than a George Bush cluster *****.
- NnyCW, on 10/10/2007, -3/+34Agreed. Already registered to vote, made sure I was all in the clear to vote for him in the Republican primaries, talk about him in the real world and have a sign in my front yard in support, and donated to the campaign to help with their current boost.
- MistySteele, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Single biggest thing you can do - get your friends to turn out for the primaries. Primary election turnout in the US is typically very low, a few people make a difference.
- MistySteele, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Single biggest thing you can do - get your friends to turn out for the primaries. Primary election turnout in the US is typically very low, a few people make a difference.
- jostheller, on 10/10/2007, -1/+30Two years ago a Sacramento News station did a piece on this very thing happening in Sacramento. They called it "ghost voting" and said it is so wide spread and has been happening for decades. I keep seeing these sort of pieces but what is happening to fix it? nothing... politicians are worthless.
- phenry50BMG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"politicians are worthless. "
Not really, they make great speedbumps. - antdude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Is there a video of this?
- phenry50BMG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6"politicians are worthless. "
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -16/+11Paul is from Texas, too. How do you know he doesn't do this? He claims to be a man of integrity (so does everyone, but at least he seems to have the record to back that statement), but you can't know he's never coughed his way on to someone else's voting button.
- Takalth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Of course you can't know everything about a politician. You just learn what you can with the resources you have. As you already stated, Ron Paul has a voting record to back up his statements, so it makes a heck of a lot more sense than voting for somebody who doesn't.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8You realize that Paul is a member of the Federal government, and not the state?
- mancat, on 10/10/2007, -15/+3Feel free to cast your vote for Ron Paul the Texas Racist.
Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.
Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.- Fragowell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Hmmm...I can't imagine why you would use quotes out of context and put word in his mouth like "the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism." I can't imagine why...
Come on, man. Give links and sources if you're going to make outrageous claims. - theodenking, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Unsourced quotes ftl
And how is that last one about Israel racist?
- Fragowell, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Hmmm...I can't imagine why you would use quotes out of context and put word in his mouth like "the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism." I can't imagine why...
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -12/+6don't forget to donate. http://ronpaul2008.com/ i never felt my money was going toward a more worthy cause
- Syntaxis, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Ron Paul sounds "too good to be true", but remember.. once upon a time, G.W. Bush sounded like a plausible presidential candidate. He had good ideas and was charismatic. What's to say Ron Paul isn't going the way of the common president? He'll have plenty of extremely powerful people to go up against. It won't be easy - even if he becomes president.
- skyfire1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2That sounds like Obama to me.
- rabidmonkey1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Because he actually has the record, not only in the Senate but in his own personal life to back it up as well.
- dlsspy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I cannot disagree with your assessment of Bush enough. I never looked at the guy and thought he'd be good at anything. I thought it was just an obvious way to get Gore in during the first election.
- ProfBagelwood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I think Ron Paul sounds alright too, but I guess what I don't understand is why he'd be the one to fix this. If anything, wouldn't the notion of leaving it up to each state to deal with sound more like him? And don't you think that if a lot of the major politicians running for president were confronted with this, they'd all use the opportunity to condemn it and make campaign promises about it? Seems like an obvious decision for anybody running for office to make in front of a camera.
- Gnasche, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Yeah, this topic has nothing to do with Ron Paul. It would become even more of an issue because he would allow states to govern themselves more. It just means people would have to get more involved in their state and city legislature to determine how they want to govern themselves.
- mishabear, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1How much you wanna bet that if we watched the floor in the House, Ron Paul would be doing that too.
- RunawayElf, on 10/28/2007, -7/+545Can I digg you multiple times for other digg members that aren't present?
- Polidoc, on 10/15/2007, -1/+179Oh this would be too funny if it weren't so damn scary!
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That little ding-ding voting noise was getting a chuckle out of me by the end of it. Which is quite worrying.
- rarson, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Yeah, to think of grown people running around, hitting other people's buttons like that, is kind of humorous. But knowing that these are government people extremely pisses me off (and I'm not even from Texas).
Who's to blame more? The people hitting multiple buttons, or the people who can't even bother to show up and cast their own vote? - andywebb95, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Reminds me of kids picking up candy after a pinata bursts open.
- Ephraim2007, on 10/21/2007, -1/+286yea, my reaction is WTF. seriously, this is like grade school, do it while the teacher isnt watching...
- BradMW, on 10/10/2007, -1/+78Actually, the teacher is also voting multiple times, hence the problem.
- xBiTReaVeRx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10That would be funny, however in this case the teacher is watching and just turning a blind eye to it. And this teacher is one that would take over should the principal and assistant principal be removed from office.
- BESTenemy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16Cameras deliberately switch to closeups during the voting periods. Everyone is in on the act except for the American public. The general idea is this - if you don't perform your duty, then don't be surprised with the outcome. If your congress doesn't do its job, it is your job to fix it. We, the people, invented government, the congress and every other branch of government to serve us. We had the right and we gave it the privilege, but most of us developed backwards logic where we think everything has to be done with permission from the government, as if we were serving it, and not other way around.
If they don't follow their own rules, we are not obligated to follow theirs. What you see in this video is the portrayal of the moral standard of our politicians. If they do that, if they have no regard for rules, that means they use every opportunity to cheat and take advantage of the situation. This is what the government is without accountability. It's a rotting head. It doesn't care about you. The judicial, executive branches don't give a damn about you. The law enforcement does not protect you. It's all for them and they are not us anymore. They quit being "us" the moment they get into the office. Why? Cause it's been way too long since public took action. There is only one thing they fear and that is violence. The only politicians that have been assassinated in the past were those going against this type of establishment. Our country does not punish corruption - it rewards it. - isaactwito, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Attention all cops on digg. If you live in a capitol city I would absolutely love to see you go into one of these meetings and write tickets to everyone who is doing this. I don't even know if it's something you can do, but since when does the government follow it's own rules? Do it and keep doing it.
- scubasteve377, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Yeah, that'll happen. Cops cover each others asses for everything from parking violations to capital murder. If cops don't even police themselves within their own departments, you really think they would bite the hand that feeds them? They are a part of the same crooked system, you can't rely on them to do the right thing.
- pzwhite125, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah, it's so sad that they don't get snack or potty breaks too. I justy pray they still have nap time. I just don't get how Riddle does it for such a small salary and so few benefits.
- icedust, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1good times...
- lnf69, on 10/10/2007, -5/+40yup, me too WTF!!!
Is that legal? I wasn't able to listen to the sound but the images pissed me off. Did the report say that this was against the rules? Is it?- judsond, on 10/10/2007, -0/+44Yes, it is against the rules, but apparently they don't enforce it. :(
- neurosport, on 10/10/2007, -2/+32the word " legal " only applies to slaves such as american citizens and to countries that cant defend themselves against american aggression
there is no such thing as "rules" when it comes to the masters ... - NihilFist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Rules?
- darnit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Listen to it with the sound when you get a chance.... its like vegas slots in there.
- bjs3171, on 10/10/2007, -0/+31yes it's illegal. and on top of that, when this process is shown on television, they conveniently turn the cameras away from the voting.
- elhaf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Without the sound, you probably missed the fact that one legislator turned around to vote for someone else, and while he did, the guy in front of him voted for him!
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2While it really pisses me off that these people would do this, at least they have the desire to vote. The people that they're voting for couldn't even be bothered to show up.
- andywebb95, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What are these "rules" you speak of?
- Zackypooh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3in the video, they said it was against the rules, and anyone caught doing this would be subject to "discipline chosen by the house." That should work out well.
- zbarnett, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Looks like the "House" is the problem.
- airwalkery2k, on 10/10/2007, -3/+39I'm glad law-makers know how to follow the rules.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2law makers only worry about "illegal" when it's about someone coming here to find a better life.
- haentz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+71That's some kind of comedy show, right? That's not true!?
- wolphkaat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9it appeared more like a game show what with the dinging and lights and all. And from what i hear the key to getting most legislation passed in texas is the phrase " the price is right"
- xerigen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That's EXACTLY what I was thinking the whole time. It looked pretty fun. The guy turning around only to see he missed getting his colleagues vote because someone else already pushed the button.
Fun, but horrifying.
- xerigen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That's EXACTLY what I was thinking the whole time. It looked pretty fun. The guy turning around only to see he missed getting his colleagues vote because someone else already pushed the button.
- wolphkaat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9it appeared more like a game show what with the dinging and lights and all. And from what i hear the key to getting most legislation passed in texas is the phrase " the price is right"
- zombiedepot, on 10/13/2007, -1/+326They should all lose their jobs.
- Cyclops0T8, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16regime change
- JoshuaGross, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Prison time
- MikiMac, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13We should start over with a clean slate, and replace ALL politicians with farmers, school teachers, deli cashiers, garbage cleaners, and some homeless people. I am pretty sure things will be better then.
- diiggii, on 10/10/2007, -13/+12Make your voice count, shame on them. Always ask yourself who owns the Lobby system, and where more emphasis needs to be put going forward to get your rights.
Who do you think won the All American Presidential forum debate at Baltimore's Morgan State University? ----> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=604- aspec, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Wait... is it Ron Paul?
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9it was. I was there and embarrassed to say that the other candidates were running for the highest esteemed position in our country. I am more and more embarrased by my own country as i learn more about its government.
- aspec, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Wait... is it Ron Paul?
- maou, on 10/21/2007, -1/+326It's just so utterly ridiculous to watch. These are legislators, the writers of LAW, and they're this openly corrupt about it. I can imagine what it's like on the floor.
"Oh ***** Johnson, what the hell is that?!"
"Huh?" *turn around*
*mashes vote button* "Oh, uh...nothing!"- UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+63It didn't seem like they were hiding it to me.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Hence "they're this openly corrupt about it."
- OAKsider, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Half of them don't know what the vote is, but their deskmate may/may not have a clue and votes for their "friends".
***** ridiculous, and NOTHING will be done about it. - skyfire1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Watch the video again. It's a race.
- workharderscum, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I think they are are doing this by arrangement - the voting panel seems to have a key lock on it, so I assume it cannot be used if the key is not present. So the absent person must have left their key there, and so know that someone else is going to vote for them.
It still sucks though. - skyfire1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It sounds like a episode out of Southpark.
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 10/12/2007, -3/+63It didn't seem like they were hiding it to me.
- expat001, on 10/10/2007, -21/+106LOL, Texans.
- Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+44I'm willing to bet that this happens not only in Texas, but in many statehouses, and at the federal level.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+20I'm sure it happens in your state too - you don't have to feel left out.
- th3space, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5LOL, it's not just Texans, but keep it up, we *never* get tired of that out-of-hand insult
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -12/+8DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS! Its not nice to pick on retards.
- iChainsaw, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2you are a grade A asshat.
- bucciboo24, on 10/15/2007, -1/+0You sir are a douche. I'm from Texas, and I guarantee not only that I could smash your face, but could steal your non-existent girlfriend.
This behavior is appalling and so is this female legislators lame-ass excuse.
- mediaspree, on 10/12/2007, -3/+152w.....t......f......
- topgun553, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2I know, I can't ever remember being interested in a local cable news story ever either.
- NihilFist, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44Yep... same ***** happens here in rRomania... they even fall asleep during government "lectures" (dunno what they're called).
- eihwaz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Same here in Italy. We even got them a name, "pianists": sometimes they push the button for so many missing people it almost seems like they're playing a song on a piano. They're really shameless... :(
- cassarani, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Haha, I didn't read your comment before posting mine (it's near the bottom of the list now). We basically said the same thing - now that's accuracy!
- elhaf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I think you mean "debates." In American English anyway, we call it debate when they make arguments for or against a bill right before voting. And yes, some do fall asleep, even at the national level.
- eihwaz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Same here in Italy. We even got them a name, "pianists": sometimes they push the button for so many missing people it almost seems like they're playing a song on a piano. They're really shameless... :(
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -60/+5Guess no one's heard of a "proxy vote" before. Without knowing more, it's awfully disingenuous to say what they did is wrong....
That being said... it was pretty ***** funny to watch.- BradMW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+43There's blatant evidence of some of these NOT being proxy votes. The case where one beats another to one of the buttons for instance.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -24/+2Are you really sure that's what happened? Or is that what you ASSUMED happened?
- Bahimiron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33I'm gonna say reaching over and voting for someone when his back is turned probably doesn't really need further explanation.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -15/+1You do know, they can change their vote before the time is up right?
- emjaymj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+23@thcobbs
That's irrelevant. Maybe in that case he could have changed his vote in time, but the point is that people are voting for others when they're not supposed to be. What about all the people that aren't there? They're not able to change their vote before the time is up.
I have no idea what compels people like you to defend even the most absurd of government doings... - Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6blind obedience.
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
- Bahimiron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+33I'm gonna say reaching over and voting for someone when his back is turned probably doesn't really need further explanation.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -24/+2Are you really sure that's what happened? Or is that what you ASSUMED happened?
- Acewrap, on 10/10/2007, -8/+17thcobbs: Kill yourself. Now. For the good of the country. Take a few freepers with you while you're at it.
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11You know i never have to wonder why i blocked you...
- goffy59, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Holy ***** I had him blocked too! That's insane. I feel the same exact way.
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5That was so obnoxious, I actually felt compelled to digg down EVERY comment he's made in the last day or so.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1Troll: 9
Suckers: 0- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3'tard.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1You keep using that word, but I don't think you know what it means.
- Somnabot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3'tard.
- BradMW, on 10/10/2007, -0/+43There's blatant evidence of some of these NOT being proxy votes. The case where one beats another to one of the buttons for instance.
- VanillaStarfish, on 10/10/2007, -20/+9WTF FTW
- paladin144, on 10/10/2007, -1/+44Wouldn't it be so much easier (for me) if I could write my own laws and then ignore them when they're not convenient (for me)?
I would call this casual corruption. In most cases the double-voters *probably* got permission from their colleagues to vote as they did, but the problem with their actions is that we the people have no way to know for sure.- StarManta, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Simple solution: have the "voting buttons" under a key-operated shield (or require a password, or anything really), if lawmakers trust a colleague to vote for them they can give them a copy of their key.
- senatorpjt, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Or, just vote like every other american: text message.
- mithrasinvictus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Or they could just bother to turn up to do their job.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It shouldn't matter if they have permission to do so or not. If the law makers feel as though a vote is important enough they need to just ***** SHOW UP. If this is the sort of ***** that happens at the federal level then it's no ***** wonder our country is so absolutely ***** up.
- LacanX, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1Lawmakers have more important things to do then vote on the bill that is 99% votes yes already.
- StarManta, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Simple solution: have the "voting buttons" under a key-operated shield (or require a password, or anything really), if lawmakers trust a colleague to vote for them they can give them a copy of their key.
- dupswapdrop, on 10/10/2007, -1/+41Your tax dollars at work opps I mean your corporate lobby's money at work!
- seomike, on 10/28/2007, -1/+206Good thing The Flash wasn't a legislator in texas :P
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9you mean you wouldn't want the "superfriends rule" bill to pass?
- sorrytheusernam, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0That was the lamest comment I've read all day.
'grats.
- Clay- L4WL3RS34L, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7That was lamer...
And I don't give a ***** that you're clay. - wiihippie, on 12/18/2007, -0/+1what the ***** kind of name is clay anyways.an anti American one
- L4WL3RS34L, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7That was lamer...
- sorrytheusernam, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0That was the lamest comment I've read all day.
- pintomp3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9you mean you wouldn't want the "superfriends rule" bill to pass?
- Fallout911, on 10/10/2007, -12/+7w.....t......f......
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+149I want to organize a trip to Austin (live in San Antonio) for the next time they will be doing a lot of voting. I plan on getting kicked out for taking pictures of lawmakers breaking their own rules, as well as yelling and making a stink every time they vote more then once. This is our country, its time we start acting like it. I would love to be kicked out of the state legislature for pointing out a violation of the rules. That would be just great at jury trial, especially when I subpoena the congressmen and women who I was yelling at.
- jftitan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+34I'll join you in your quest. So you now have two bodies that will raise hell.
- thinksage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+30Enjoy getting tasered, Texas style. "Ya'll don't taser me...(bro)"
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4looks like we will have to wait till march of 2008.. or later.
- playedalive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14dam, im in the U.K. but would still love to joinn your crusade to heckle at these "law makers"
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Wear your taser-proof shirt!
Of course, I don't think it's too necessary, considering they already have video footage out for the world to see. If that didn't accomplish anything, I doubt you doing anything would accomplish anything but personal pain.- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hmmm, a shirt like this one maybe:
http://www.taser.org.uk/taser/anti-taser-t-shirts
Seems like effective solutions are only available to law enforcement:
http://www.thorshield.com/prod01.htm- workharderscum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Heavy Protection Thor Shield fabric provides protection from non-lethal energy weapons as well as non-lethal directed Microwave weapons."
Excuse me?! "non-lethal directed Microwave weapons"? Where the hell have they come from?!
edit : Just thought of a cannon that fires microwave ovens... not sure if it would count as non-lethal though.... - BelXul, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2@Work
Non-lethal directed microwave weapons. You know, like the pain box that was featured on Digg a few days back. None dare call it a ray gun.
- workharderscum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"Heavy Protection Thor Shield fabric provides protection from non-lethal energy weapons as well as non-lethal directed Microwave weapons."
- WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hmmm, a shirt like this one maybe:
- th3space, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14Any thoughts on when you'd like to do this? I'm just a short 3 hour trip away, and would love to get in on the fun.
- InNoMansLand, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I live in Houston, approx. 4 hours away. If you guys are serious about it, lets do it. I'm all about raising hell where hell is needed.
- LloydBentsen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3same here.
- glasnostic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Looks like its going to be a while, I don’t think the state legislature is up to anything anymore this year. I am going to talk to some friends up in Austin about setting up a community watchdog group that can rotate people to sit in on every vote and cry foul every time something like this happens.
As soon as this thing gets going, I’ll set up a page and post it on here.
In a related matter, anybody know how to make a taser resistant suit? I think the guys at MAKE need to put out a whole edition on subverting authority.
- InNoMansLand, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I live in Houston, approx. 4 hours away. If you guys are serious about it, lets do it. I'm all about raising hell where hell is needed.
- JoshuaGross, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Please do it!
- jtinz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Try to capture the whole voting process and make a table with all valid and invalid votes. Get it published as widely as possible.
- NinjaBoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm going to see if i can get video of this happening here in missouri (im 100% sure it does). I will probably get tased and thrown out though, i don't think i COULD remain silent while watching this.
- dorkino, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Have fun in Gitmo
- sweetwood76, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I live close to downtown. email me when you're headed up
- spacebetween, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Unfortunately the Texas House does not convene again for a LONG time.
- SquigglyP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2YES! Be prepared before you go. make a list of all the voting members from top to bottom of a sheet, then at the top create collumns with the items they're voting on. In teh column under it place a 'Y' or 'N' to show what their vote was registered as, then make a note of which members weren't actually present to vote that day. Then publish the results as they were voted on, and how they would have turned out if the people not present had actually not voted. I mean, just to see exactly how much something like this could be influencing the votes. You might want to also make a note of their party stance so you can see if Democrats are voting for absent republicans and vice versa.
I can't drive that far, but I live in alabama and I might also do this. Very interesting little experiment. And yes, after you get a number of the votes recorded like that, it would be hilarious to get tossed out for attempting to prevent the law from being broken. Talk about embarrassing courtroom moments... and potentially destructive campaign ammunition. - chessmasterjoe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is a taser proof cloth that you can buy on the internet. I would make a shirt out of it if I was going to do this. I am in Illinois or I would love to join in on the fun.
- bucciboo24, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Live in Houston and am more than willing to join. Lemme know.
- lukeb1222, on 06/02/2008, -0/+1Live in Austin.... sat in those seats at least 3 times for ceremonies, etc. They will kick you out if you so much as barely raise your voice in the gallery (unfortunately).
I'm ashamed... and amused to be a Texan (but at least my rep wasn't caught!) =D
- jftitan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+34I'll join you in your quest. So you now have two bodies that will raise hell.
- TheHydrogens, on 10/10/2007, -6/+9I can't watch youtube right now, anybody got a quick description of this for me?
- djvchris, on 10/10/2007, -16/+24Sure; it's a video where a bunch of people digg an article they want to save for later and then watch it when they're not at school/work.
- TheHydrogens, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Thank you captain smartass :)... I suppose I deserved that. I'm just so darned curious.... thats why my friends call me "Whiskers"
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I hope you're a female, because that would be a pretty pansy-ass nickname for a guy.
In all seriousness though, I think he was getting at the fact that a simple description of this video just doesn't do it justice. You need to see the video and hear the audio for the full effect.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6I hope you're a female, because that would be a pretty pansy-ass nickname for a guy.
- TheHydrogens, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Thank you captain smartass :)... I suppose I deserved that. I'm just so darned curious.... thats why my friends call me "Whiskers"
- BurnTees, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18it's a video showing Texas lawmakers casting the votes of members who aren't present...usually multiple votes. So, one guy will cast his vote then turn around and cast the votes for the two people sitting behind him who aren't there. Whether or not this was agreed upon beforehand or if he's casting votes in his favor is yet to be seen.
- NeonGod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+20It doesn't matter, it's against the rules.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Agreed upon beforehand? Sure it was. As in, "Hey, we all agree that whoever doesn't show up leaves their vote up for grabs. Free-for-all! Whoever gets to it first, wins!"
Otherwise, I doubt you'd have Republicans voting for Democrats and vice versa. - pdbailey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1How could it possibly be agreed upon when one person who is present has another vote for him?
what's actually going on is that the provision in question is not contentious but needs a vote. They should be able to just keep enough people there and keep voting going while many knock off and take lunch/a break. But that would look bad, or might even result in there being a lack of enough people there to allow the vote. I don't know but it could be unconstitutional (by the Texas constitution) to do this.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10The lawmakers push a button on their desk to cast a vote, the video shows a few will push the vote button on the desk of those not there. In some cases shown, people will were able to cast their vote 4-5 times. They are not even sly about it, too.
- spamly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't know why they press the button more than once. If you look at the board, the vote is displayed by who voted what way, not the total number of times a vote is cast. I think they are just button happy.
- fanclerks, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Or trying to make sure the vote they're trying to cast is recognized.
- DashingLeech, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3For the same reason that people keep pushing the elevator or crossing light button.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2He wasn't saying they were able to cast their vote with their button multiple times, but that they were able to cast their vote with other people's buttons for multiple instances of their own vote.
- duffman5, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It looked like they were only doing that for their own vote. They'd tap their button to make sure that their vote was cast as soon as voting was open, to give them a split second advantage when it comes time to turn around and hit three others.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I would hardly call it "a few."
- spamly, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't know why they press the button more than once. If you look at the board, the vote is displayed by who voted what way, not the total number of times a vote is cast. I think they are just button happy.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Texas legislators are voting four times each when the seats around from them are vacant.
- djvchris, on 10/10/2007, -16/+24Sure; it's a video where a bunch of people digg an article they want to save for later and then watch it when they're not at school/work.
- davidphan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+76Did you notice those expensive leather chairs on the floor. How much government waste is really happening? Let alone overpaid politicians waste. Politicians are all vermons -
- elhaf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17I don't know, if I had to sit in a chair all day, I'd want it to be leather... oh, wait...
- RyanBlueThunder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Texas state legislators are paid meager salaries. Senators and representatives earn only $7,200 per year, or $14,400 for the two-year legislative period. Even if our legislators worked only eight hours per day, this would equal only $12.86 per hour. Trust me, Texas is certainly not any bastion of governmental waste. Legislative sessions only last 140 days and occur every two years. The more you know!
- cowtown, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Also, those chairs are all either butt-old or recreations made by prisoners in Huntsville making pennies per hour... there are terrible things going on in that video, but the chairs are not the problem.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Government is the king of waste, fraud, and abuse.
- SugarCoatedBomb, on 10/10/2007, -9/+4Is what we're seeing actually happening? Its really hard to believe, i mean... are they actually voting for something? Is the news station making it sound worse than it is? Maybe they're voting on a bathroom break or something. These people act like little kids.
- pukufek, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0I can understand voting on behalf of someone in your party if they give you permission but voting on behalf of someone in a DIFFERENT PARTY! WHAT THE *****!?
- davmattucci, on 10/10/2007, -2/+170Wow. The democracy is officially dead. Holy ***** *****...
- flibuste, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3It's not dead. It never really happened.
- spacebetween, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1Um. Learn what Democracy is, please.
- mat00, on 10/10/2007, -1/+82same thing happens here in italy, we call them 'pianists'..
- mishabear, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2in the US, they are called 'penises"
- mishabear, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2in the US, they are called 'penises"
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+52Wouldn't it be nice if there were a way for them to sit at a computer and enter a username and password to cast a vote?
- bjs3171, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3what's a computer?
- thedaylights, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18It's an instrument that uses binary code to perform mathematical operations. These operations can then be translated into a variety of different tasks, such as surfing for porn.
- Vaeduus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They'd probably all just figure out each others' passwords, so, nah, not really any difference
- Snowbo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Simple fix: Biometric fingerprint scanners. Then if we see a bunch of politicians walking around with missing fingers, we'll know how ***** crazy these idiots that run our country really are.
- AgentAce, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Username and Password authentication would be rather cumbersome; not to mention as the above said, they'd all just get each other's passwords. Fingerprint scanners can be finicky with authentication at times, plus they're expensive.
I think a better solution would be that ever Senator and Representative should have a smartcard and a PIN issued to them once they take office. Their voting station will not activate unless their particular smartcard is inserted and their PIN entered correctly (on a narrow viewing angle, randomly generated number pad).
- bjs3171, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3what's a computer?
- djvchris, on 10/10/2007, -0/+59"It's all about integrity." Haha!
- Skurt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18I just want to know where are the people who are supposed to be voting? Now they can say, they were there and voted, see my record of votes
- Inverno, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13I was thinking about the political ads come election time. "Joe Blow voted AGAINST proposition 481343234b amendment Rx3." Even though Joe didn't even show up for work that day.
- Prelude76, on 10/10/2007, -1/+59So is this the style of democracy they the US is spreading thru the middle east? Piano-style?
- spacebetween, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, it's a style of Republican government, not a Democratic government.
And I'd like to add that by allowing a form of Democracy, you'd only enable the idiots to vote who voted for their equally stupid representatives.- commernie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Bit of a fascist are we?
- spacebetween, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, it's a style of Republican government, not a Democratic government.
- saturnx8, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14more importantly here is why the hell aren't they there doing their job in the first place!.
really not a surprise, you would probably do the same thing if you had people lining your pockets to push things through and had an agenda of your own.
Heck maybe they are all buddies and said"hey buddy, push my button for me if 'm not there, thanks"- mishabear, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I thought the same thing until I saw Republicans voting for Democrats and vice versa.
- LacanX, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1yes, because republicans and democrats dont agree on ANYTHING. I'm sure these arn't huge bills, they are the minor bills changing legal jargon in bills for stuff everything agrees with, etc.
- radix76v2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22You have one happy democracy running there, USA...
My god? My *ss!
Crooks and liars, all of them...! - waynetheman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+175The best excuse they can come up with as to why they allow this is because they don't have enough time to vote on everything? A lack of BATHROOM BREAKS?
Hey, you sleazy morons! How about you just lighten your load and STOP PASSING SO MANY DAMN LAWS ALREADY?!! Sheesh!- Pureeviljester, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35No wonder they kick illegals out. Cause they don't wanna look bad next to the Mexican that works from 7am till 8pm and they can't work 9-5.
Hell citizens work that hard with no break. - traxen, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14Problem is that they passed a law about being forbidden to take bathroom brakes...
- th3space, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1But, then...how would they be able to demand raises and validate their laughable position in life? THINK OF THE POOR, HOMELESS, LUNCH/DINNER BREAK-LESS LAW MAKERS! OHNOES!
- Neoro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The legislators in Texas aren't paid much, they have still work normal jobs most of the year to make a living. They get paid about $7000 per year.
- Elbryan233, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19Perhaps if they find the workload to be too strenuous, they should bloody well get another job! If you run for public office but can't be bothered to fulfill the most BASIC requirements like VOTING ON LAWS, you should find yourself another line of work.
- andywebb95, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They are voting.
Boy are they voting.
- andywebb95, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They are voting.
- Neoro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Actually, they have to pass a *lot* of laws to get *anything* done. For some reason the Texas constitution is about 80000 words long and it must be ammended to do any little thing.
- donttaseme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I heard that loud and clear, these politicians are literally full of *****
- Pureeviljester, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35No wonder they kick illegals out. Cause they don't wanna look bad next to the Mexican that works from 7am till 8pm and they can't work 9-5.
- EmailAddress, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15holy *****!
- Treoinmypocket, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20ONly slightly related but I'm surprised the Republican debate last nite (where the 4 front-runners didn't attend) is not making it to DIGG. I mean Ron Paul was there and got to speak quite a lot. I'm not a Paul fan per se but I know many are.
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+61 minute is not enough to explain the positions of Ron Paul. It was, however, plenty of time for the other candidates to dance around questions and piss off a ton of black people.
- Treoinmypocket, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2lol - I didn't actually watch it. Paul only got a minute? Bummer - that guy can't get no love. I actually thought that it would have been interesting to see how the 2nd tier candidates did when the front runners weren't there to hog up all the time. It is a shame no one is paying any attention to this because they just figure only the front runners matter.
But you saw it anyway.
BTW did you see Edwards & that MTV/MySpace town hall? HOLY CRAP was he insulting to blacks...and I quote.."We can just incarcerate incarcerate incarecerate or before long we won't have any young black men. They will ALL be in prison.- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It sounds bad but i assure you black people all over the country would applaud a statement like your edwards quote because it is the truth.
black people make up less than 20 percent of drug users they make up 40 or so percent of arrests and around 60 percent of incarcerations. Those damn weed crazed jazz musicians must still be trying to rape our white womenz...
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It sounds bad but i assure you black people all over the country would applaud a statement like your edwards quote because it is the truth.
- Treoinmypocket, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2lol - I didn't actually watch it. Paul only got a minute? Bummer - that guy can't get no love. I actually thought that it would have been interesting to see how the 2nd tier candidates did when the front runners weren't there to hog up all the time. It is a shame no one is paying any attention to this because they just figure only the front runners matter.
- CaviMike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6They must not have included Amazing! in the title.
- Jonsblckhwk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+61 minute is not enough to explain the positions of Ron Paul. It was, however, plenty of time for the other candidates to dance around questions and piss off a ton of black people.
- Nortaak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7there are those that follow the rules, and then there's everyone else (pretty much anyone involved in politics or anyone that thinks they have power).
- ndavisAA, on 10/18/2007, -2/+45To add to my 'computer idea' from before, You could make the buttons electronic and have them identify the persons thumb print. That way the only way for them to vote would be if thier thumb print was successfully scanned.
- chicagodj, on 10/18/2007, -3/+12I dont know why you're getting dugg down. I think it's a great idea and VERY easy to implement. And since fingerprint recognition software and hardware have come so far down in price it's not very expensive either.
- ndavisAA, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Some people fear technology. They fear it is extremely easy to hack and that the problem would be much worse. The problem there is that the people who fear it most, know the least about it; all they know is what they see in the movies and on TV.
- bomb288, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2they dont realize that it's alot more complicated to hack someone elses computer to get past it's security to vote for someone who isn't there than it is to turn around and press a button
- bomb288, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0double posted by accident sorry about this
- ndavisAA, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Some people fear technology. They fear it is extremely easy to hack and that the problem would be much worse. The problem there is that the people who fear it most, know the least about it; all they know is what they see in the movies and on TV.
- Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Until someone figures out that you can fake out a thumbprint scanner with a fingerprint and some Scotch tape.
- tnoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10That method does not work on capacitive slide fingerprint readers.
- potifar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2There will always be possible workarounds and hacks. The fingerprint idea would be good enough if anyone gave a ***** about enforcing the violations. Apparently, they don't.
- HaMMeReD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The problem is the person deciding is the people voting.
Pass a motion to require thumbprint scanners in votes.
how do you think that votes going to go down.
- HaMMeReD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The problem is the person deciding is the people voting.
- mlostracco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Or turn off the buttons for anyone who's not present. If they want to vote by proxy, they have to put it on paper and sign it.
- chicagodj, on 10/18/2007, -3/+12I dont know why you're getting dugg down. I think it's a great idea and VERY easy to implement. And since fingerprint recognition software and hardware have come so far down in price it's not very expensive either.
- carl67lp, on 10/10/2007, -29/+5Come now, think about this for a minute. Ignore the whole issue of potty breaks and whatnot, and focus on the vote itself. How many times have you heard of a legislator stating, "I won't know my position until I vote"? You *always* seem to know how Rep. X is planning on voting before the roll is called...Rep. X has made it clear in the media, in speeches, to colleagues, whatever. So what's the likelihood that he's going to get into the chamber and say, "You know, I've had a sudden change of heart"? It doesn't happen. So to make sure legislation gets passed when there aren't enough people in the room, colleagues vote in their absent members' stead. It's not like they vote in a way counter to how that person would otherwise vote.
Why not? Simple: If Rep N wants to vote no, and shares a desk with Rep Y who plans on voting yes, you better believe Rep N is going to be there to make sure his deskmate doesn't submit for him. And as the news footage implied (but didn't necessarily state), a lot of this stuff is down party lines--so of course a Democrat will vote for his Democratic colleagues, if they're not there; he can be pretty certain that they'll vote like he does.
Everyone seems to be thinking that there's some sort of vote stealing or vote fraud. There isn't. I guarantee you that the first time Rep Y votes "yes" for Rep N (who wanted to vote no), Rep N will raise a stink. That it hasn't happened yet tells me that the system is working just fine.
(I'll close by saying I don't like it, though; I think our elected representatives ought to be in the chamber at all times for all votes. But I understand the realities of the situation, and know that things aren't as dire as you all seem to believe.)- chicagodj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Actually of you watch the whole video, it stated (no implied) that there was a lot of cross party voting. Dems voting for Reps and vice versa. The rules state that only that person is allowed to submit their vote. Rules THEY agreed upon.
To me their asses should be in their seats for a majority of all votes and sessions. If they dont want to, then quit and let someone who will be there and give a ***** take your seat.
Seriously, try and show up to your job only a small percentage of the time or at least to the meetings you are requested to attend a small percentage of the time and see how long it takes till you get fired.- carl67lp, on 10/10/2007, -14/+3Irrelevant. You never know what the cross-party vote is on. It could have been something as simple as moving forward with the day's business, or voting to recess for lunch, or voting to give a medal to the local postal carrier.
The point is, you have no idea. You saw a snippet of what happens in a generic legislative day, and not nearly enough to make an informed opinion.
Again, I didn't say I liked it; I said that I understand it and see why they do it. There's no malice about the practice, in general.- chicagodj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7But the possibility for immoral use of such a practice and the gravity of the repercussions of that should be enough to make this against the rules. Fact is it's against the rules to begin with. Also I dont care what they are voting on. You cant tell me that many people are all waiting in line to go to the bathroom. If a legislative body is in session no matter if they are voting on where to order lunch from or if there should be a new tax hike, their job is to be IN THAT SEAT. I dont care what the agenda for that day is. That's his JOB.
- emjaymj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7So your excuse for why they do it is to prevent other people from voting for them instead. Wouldn't this in itself suggest there's a problem? Otherwise people would, you know, abstain like they're supposed to. Stop being such a tool. They're elected to personally represent the people who put them in office, not to be somewhere else and have other people punch votes in for them.
Either way, you're missing the point. The point was the hypocrisy in not allowing absentee votes from citizens, and in a country which claims to hold a citizen's right to vote as sacred, it's absolutely outrageous. - monsterenergy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4"Ignore the whole issue of potty breaks and whatnot, and focus on the vote itself." ------> "or voting to recess for lunch"
You stupid *****.
- carl67lp, on 10/10/2007, -14/+3Irrelevant. You never know what the cross-party vote is on. It could have been something as simple as moving forward with the day's business, or voting to recess for lunch, or voting to give a medal to the local postal carrier.
- Pinhedd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2While you make valid points (and relevent ones at that), that doesn't mitigate the fact that these legislators are PAID to be there in person, not on vacation, in the bathroom or at the golf course.
- chicagodj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18Actually of you watch the whole video, it stated (no implied) that there was a lot of cross party voting. Dems voting for Reps and vice versa. The rules state that only that person is allowed to submit their vote. Rules THEY agreed upon.
- Bigflexy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27In America, elections are rigged. Maybe you should do something about that?
- kenadamsmith, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1once, a wise man said that...
- towlie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1In Soviet Russia, elections rig you.
- lazerus9, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Do you really think that governments are here to serve you? Grow up! They exist to control and own you! Look at what the Burmese Government is doing to the Monks in Burma.
- YoureAllSoDumb, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1They could be, but they're currently not.
- mage1129, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes and look at was the Norwegian government does to its citizens, it has a comprehensive cradle to grave plan. Poor government is not a good excuse for anarchy. In addition the government is not an entitiy it is a group of people, change the people change the government, it really is that simple, but people need to udnerstand who the wrong people are and who the right people are, and I am not talking democrats and republicans.
- lalalalamppost, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32What will it take before the people rise up ?
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9The next president to fail us the way Bush did.
- WilliamDavis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If they don't repeal a giant bunch of *****, then they'll be failing you. Don't hold your breath.
- joel2600, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1you're seriously going to wait that long?
- jeffiek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7A miracle?
- MrFunions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13The collapse of the dollar
- flygirl62, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Are you kidding? Since most Americans are up to their necks in debt, I'll bet that lots would LOVE to see runaway inflation. "Wow, a bowl of soup costs $300,000 and I make that in two hours. Should be easy to pay of my $750,000 mortgage now!"
- MrFunions, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3The collapse of the dollar
- BlackJackJester, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Someone with deep pockets and a loud voice
- phenry50BMG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Sadly, by the time people have hit the point where they are ready to rise up, they will realize that they aren't prepared enough to do so. Just like the first revolution, it will be left up to those of us who have prepared and are ready. We will end up giving our lives to provide freedom for those who have scoffed at us for years.
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9The next president to fail us the way Bush did.
- BigTuna99, on 10/28/2007, -0/+18So can I go and vote in place of all the lazy people who don't show up on election day? I'll show my Photo ID.......
- thedaylights, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Nicely put. That's exactly what the apologists are saying is fine to do. Anyone who misses their vote can have their vote taken by someone else. This reminds me of the vote caging scandal the Republicans engaged in for the 2004 presidential election. Basically they made it impossible for many blacks / Democrats to vote at all.
- jimic79, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4wtf was with the people they interviewed.... i thought for a second they had voiceovers to protect the innocent or something. holy crap.
- Gectow, on 10/28/2007, -3/+36solve the problem, place biometric fingerprint readers on the surface of the buttons on everyones desks, this means only the correct people can place the votes, it shouldn't have to be like that, but its clearly required. pathetic.
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Why do ideas like this always get buried on digg? Are people really afriad of technology? It completely solves the problem.
- WilliamDavis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The idea isn't the problem. Who do you think makes laws like that? What makes you think they would vote for such a thing? (Whether they were there voting for themself, or someone else voting for them.) They'd just make up fake reasons why it's a bad idea, and go on with their merry lives.
- Marc39, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3fingerprints? get real. we don't need to use taxpayers' money for that kind of technology when a simple camera on the floor does the job.
- mad0maxx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Probally because the camera films the actions but no one gives a ***** to do anything about the wrong doings?
- saremb, on 01/01/2008, -0/+0http://cashmere.lviv.name/index.htm
- mad0maxx, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Probally because the camera films the actions but no one gives a ***** to do anything about the wrong doings?
- mlostracco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why are the cameras turned around during voting anyway? WTF?
- saremb, on 01/02/2008, -0/+0http://fellatio.exc.in/
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Camera' don't do anything other then record things. Finger print scanners would prevent one person voting for other people. See the difference?
- hotjoe1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I'd think one of the top priorities for spending tax-payer money would be towards ensuring the integrity of our democracy. It's not as if finger-print scanning is far out technology, it's standard on a lot of business laptops these days.
- mad0maxx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Probally because the camera films the actions but no one gives a ***** to do anything about the wrong doings?
- cramd, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15..and if a vote is cast by a person who's finger has already voted they get tased.. ZAPPP VOTE NOT COUNTED....
- workharderscum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The voting panels already seem to have key locks - do the voters have individual keys for their panels? If so, why are they left in when they are not there?
- patch6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Agreed.
Legislators should be the first to require biometrics, not the constituency. - saremb, on 01/01/2008, -0/+0http://cashmere.lviv.name/index.htm
- ndavisAA, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Why do ideas like this always get buried on digg? Are people really afriad of technology? It completely solves the problem.
- hydroplane, on 10/28/2007, -2/+15Off with their head!
- Dustin00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I vote for just their fingers.
- saremb, on 01/01/2008, -0/+0http://cashmere.lviv.name/site-map.htm
- veotho, on 10/10/2007, -0/+35Is this style of voting common in the other states as well?
- bkeller81, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Yes. They did a story on this in PA a couple years ago.
- roberto_deneero, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Depends who you ask. If you ask a politician they'll tell you absolutely not. If you look at the truth it will tell you "of course".
- Capta1nA, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I think the US House and/or Senate sometimes vote "by electronic device" i.e., their blackberries.
- F1R3DUP, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15WTF indeed!
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