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How China gets its troops to stand to attention
dailymail.co.uk — Officers of the People Paramilitary Police preparing for the Olympics are drilled on the parade ground with pins in their collars and crosses on their backs to ensure perfect posture.
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- Terr01, on 05/09/2008, -13/+43OMG Chinas liek totalitarian communist fascists OMG they put needles on their peoples necks WTF kill the commies!
/sarcasm, obviously
I wonder what little tricks various parts of the US armed services have for training that compare.- Sneakernets, on 05/09/2008, -8/+30uhm, nothing, compared to this. good god.
- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -3/+9Um, have you seen how the US Navy Seal train? I wouldn't be surprised if little tricks were thrown here and there to make the training harder....
Of course, not that I would know.- GrimPraetorian, on 05/09/2008, -2/+15uhhh yeah but lets not forget THEY'RE ***** NAVY SEALS.
- neko6, on 05/09/2008, -3/+6I ***** a seal once, never a navy seal. But I think it's basically the same idea, flaps and all.
- mediaphile, on 05/09/2008, -5/+2Yeah, a specialized "elite" combat group is obviously going to use different techniques than the general military. I'm sure there are things our military does that are at least as barbaric, but keep in mind how sue-happy our country is. I'm not sure our military would be able to get away with quite as much with regards to its own soldiers, except in isolated incidents.
- Terr01, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2If the legal arguments in various "stop loss" incidents are anything to go by, any servicemember is a legal slave to the DoD with an illusory contract that has a ginormous loophole. They might fear publicity, but not the legal threat.
- GrimPraetorian, on 05/09/2008, -2/+15uhhh yeah but lets not forget THEY'RE ***** NAVY SEALS.
- boot20, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Have you served in the US military? If not, then STFU and GBTW. If you did, I find it hard to believe you think this is out of the ordinary for elite force training.
- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -3/+9Um, have you seen how the US Navy Seal train? I wouldn't be surprised if little tricks were thrown here and there to make the training harder....
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -4/+19Like pinning jump wings directly to people's chests?
Anyone here old enough to remember that?- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -6/+3I remember that:
http://www.cnn.com/US/9707/11/blood.pinning/
And have you seen those Navy Seals train? I wouldn't be surprised if a few tricks were thrown in here and there to make the training much harder. It's not good or bad, it's military training.
Of course, I wouldn't know.- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -2/+5In case you misunderstand, I meant to say the tough Navy Seals training isn't necessarily bad. Of course the blood pinning incidetns were horrible. But I don't think this Chinese thing is anywhere near the atrocities of that. It's just tough Chinese military training.
Typical daily mail rubbish.- haydesigner, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3In case you misunderstand... you make these wild insinuations about the military here (multiple times, I might add), but then say "Of course, I wouldn't know"... as if might somehow make your (obviously) completely uninformed comments any less useless to us.
More importantly, you don't know *****, and you look like a flippin' idiot acting like you do.
- haydesigner, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3In case you misunderstand... you make these wild insinuations about the military here (multiple times, I might add), but then say "Of course, I wouldn't know"... as if might somehow make your (obviously) completely uninformed comments any less useless to us.
- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -2/+5In case you misunderstand, I meant to say the tough Navy Seals training isn't necessarily bad. Of course the blood pinning incidetns were horrible. But I don't think this Chinese thing is anywhere near the atrocities of that. It's just tough Chinese military training.
- flogistan, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1I thought you were talking about the beginning sequence to F-troop. Nobody is old enough to remember that.
- CosmicJustice, on 05/09/2008, -4/+1Yes, I'm old enough to remember urban legends.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3My friend, the networks had video of the ritual.
I'm not condemning it. Whatever it takes to make your soldiers hard ass *****.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3My friend, the networks had video of the ritual.
- shig, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2That is hazing. This is different.
- Terr01, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1You mean, it's at least marginally productive?
- theSshow, on 05/09/2008, -6/+3I remember that:
- yish, on 05/09/2008, -6/+24how to you train for building naked prisoner pyramids?
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2The hands-on kind.
- craighoxton, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6Give automatic weapons to hillbillys
- xtraa, on 05/09/2008, -4/+6I don't think it makes sense to argue against your false sarcasm without being dugg down.
Why?
Because you chinese propaganda people are simply too much to digg against with success.- walugi, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3yeah, if people don't agree with you then they're the ones blinded by propaganda. You're still thinking like that? I hope to jesus that you're either over 60, or under 8.
- Terr01, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2That's a new one. Usually people say: "You're stupid!" by way of ad-hominem argument.
But that I'm supposedly a propoganda plant of the Chinese government? Nice variation. Pfft.
- BobEwell, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2All we have is a huge drill instructor yelling and spitting in our face to stand at attention.
- lolinyerface, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2And cutting our hair off to demoralize and break us down...
Wooo! Ain't Limited Republics grand?
- lolinyerface, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2And cutting our hair off to demoralize and break us down...
- Sneakernets, on 05/09/2008, -8/+30uhm, nothing, compared to this. good god.
- Happy_Phantom, on 05/09/2008, -1/+33I guess they got their point across.
- azzy, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Needless to say, it's pretty harsh don't you think?
- masterm1nd, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Did you mean needleless to say? You wouldn't have even had to change what you said. Pay attention.
- Nowaiman, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7point, a cross
who are you sir? - matrixbandit, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3Oh hoh! I see what you did there..
- azzy, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Needless to say, it's pretty harsh don't you think?
- flogistan, on 05/09/2008, -3/+36They're carrying the cross for tiny jesus. Nice guys.
- fpcyber, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Don't you mean baby Jesus?
- SGTS3XY, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1I'm pretty sure the international response will be "WTFCHINAJESUS" if we get to see it televised.
- Sneakernets, on 05/09/2008, -9/+3Must we... really have to deal with this? Like a poster said, this is a pandora's box and china would put the wrath of giygas on us if we opened it.... and this time, prayer wouldn't work.
- Sneakernets, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1I'm just talking about the way these pictures are. they look as if they were made to intimidate. But.. intimidate WHOM? And is this some sort of ***** yellow journalism that we don't need. .. wait, it's the Daily Mail?
- masterm1nd, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1I think all military stuff is made to intimidate, it doest mean they're planning on attacking whomever views it.
- Sneakernets, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1I'm just talking about the way these pictures are. they look as if they were made to intimidate. But.. intimidate WHOM? And is this some sort of ***** yellow journalism that we don't need. .. wait, it's the Daily Mail?
- GorfTron, on 05/09/2008, -1/+26We all have some little prick keeping us on our toes.
- newstart, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Well Said
- robmcm, on 05/09/2008, -5/+40Daily mail..... sigh
- monoa, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1Daily Mail = Fox News Lite
- monoa, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1P.S. If I ever mistakenly end up at the Daily *****' Mail, I always post in the comments:
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/nick_angel/200 ...
I encourage all Diggers to join me in this endeavour.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -4/+15And US fighter pilots take amphetamines. I guess whatever works.
- mediaphile, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7So do sufferers of Attention Deficit Disorder, asthmatics, etc. That is, unless you're talking about meth amphetamine, which is altogether different.
- lhbaker, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3The Navy gives its pilots no-go pills (Ambien) after a mission, which works like a champ, but they also have pills to counteract the effect in the event of a new mission. If I ran my life like the military runs its pilots, I'd be imprisoned as a drug dealer.
- Shadowgamers, on 05/09/2008, -0/+46th and 7th picture is going to have funny text slapped on it.
- nomelitas, on 05/09/2008, -0/+12Proper posture and instant acupuncture all in one suit.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -16/+5Whose idea was it to let these assholes host the olympics again?
- Bovorik, on 05/09/2008, -7/+2The IOC when they realised just how much cold hard cash they would make off of it.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -3/+1I'd take a somewhat lower payout if it meant not having to deal with filthy chinamen. I'm guessing a lot of people on the IOC feel the same way right now.
I had hope for China a few years ago but now I think they're doomed to wind up living in a festering swamp/desert/polluted hellhole for the next few centuries or so.- Bovorik, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Obviously, but we all knew this was coming. Beijing's never taken serious heed of external criticism of it's internal affairs in the past, so why would they start doing it now (doubly so now they're hosting the Olympics and realistically aren't gonna have it taken away from them, short of them doing something stupid like trying to take back Taiwan between now and the late Summer).
- masterm1nd, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1Just so you know, chinamen is an ethnic slur. Otherwise I actually agree with you for once.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -3/+1I'd take a somewhat lower payout if it meant not having to deal with filthy chinamen. I'm guessing a lot of people on the IOC feel the same way right now.
- infinityofnever, on 05/09/2008, -6/+3what do YOU know about these "assholes"? They are more efficient and skilled than you can ever even dream to be. Hate more you ignorant, chauvinistic burger-chomping fat *****.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -6/+2Chinamen are so filthy they drive a dolphin extinct. The rare white Yangtze dolphin died off because Chinamen filthed up the river too much.
Here are chinamen processing pig guts for human consumption:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/THOMASJEFFE ...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/THOMASJEFFE ...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/THOMASJEFFE ...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t99/THOMASJEFFE ...
In related news, chinamen can afford gas guzzlers. Why can't you? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24242758/- infinityofnever, on 05/09/2008, -3/+3ohh gee! sea life isn't going instinct anywhere else in the world. You make it sound like Americans aren't buying their fat gas thirsty hummers either. I can bet you never went to China before cause all I'm seeing from you are the propagandas and brainwashing by the media. You're like a frog in the well with only your computer and the internet. tsk tsk.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1Actually, I was in Shanghai last year and I've been to HK twice, including once when Kai Tak airport was still in commission and the planes had to fly in between all the skyscrapers. I'll never forget the wondrous experience of flying cathay pacific and having rude, nasty hongers kick the back of my seat when I tried to recline it in the midst of a 13 hour flight. This was in between trips to the restroom where they'd try to sneak cigarette breaks.
I've been to Cairo, Jakarta, and Calcutta and I've never seen anything like the pollution and filth you find in China. I can't wait until olympic marathon runners start going into convulsions on the side of the track around the 20th mile due to pollution lung. The marathon world record holder has already announced he won't be running due to concerns about air quality.
Underneath China's glitz and glitter is a festering *****. It'll collapse sooner or later just like the USSR. China's riding an inflated economic bubble that's even more precarious than the one we're having popped right now - ornitier, on 05/09/2008, -1/+0You can't really compare the cities as they are at different stages of industrial development. Most of the big cities in china are much more advanced than the cities of india. I've been to Chennai, and although the air pollution isn't as bad as those in Beijing, street pollution certainly is. If the pollution doesn't kill you, the crazy driving certainly will - not helped by the fact that most of the places lack a pavement. Most industrial places are festering ***** at first, it takes time for these places to change.
Hong Kong is not that polluted, comparable with many other major cities in the world. If you're basing your experience of China on just Hong Kong and Shanghai, then you're talking out of your ass, because those places are no where near as bad as cities in India. - petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1The pollution in India is different. Organic, due largely to raw sewage. And no, I'm not basing my view of China on HK but on Shanghai and nearby environs. And, to be fair, the waterways in HK are gray and emit an unrelenting stench and the air is not exactly pleasant to breathe. But the air quality in Shanghai was absolutely apalling and I can't imagine why people live there feel that their in any position to mock Beijing for IT'S air quality. I arrived only a day after a massive dust storm hit Shanghai and the api index hit 500. No, I'm not exaggerating. This was early April, 2007. Dust storms like this occur with increasing frequency because China is turning into a giant desert because of its appalling land use policies. India would have been bearable did not I have to deal with things like a cow pissing in the street two feet from where I was sitting and having its piss splash up and into the coffee I was drinking. Calcutta is poorfilthy. Give the people there some money and conditions will improve. China is already ruined beyond repair and will be a festering ***** forever because you can turn a desert back into farmland and the chemical filth they pump into the water doesn't just wash away like sewage but literally poisons everything and kills all life. And I don't know why the air is so absolutely disgusting, but you know something is wrong when you fly to South Korea and step off the plane and realize that your clothes still smell like China.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1Actually, I was in Shanghai last year and I've been to HK twice, including once when Kai Tak airport was still in commission and the planes had to fly in between all the skyscrapers. I'll never forget the wondrous experience of flying cathay pacific and having rude, nasty hongers kick the back of my seat when I tried to recline it in the midst of a 13 hour flight. This was in between trips to the restroom where they'd try to sneak cigarette breaks.
- infinityofnever, on 05/09/2008, -3/+3ohh gee! sea life isn't going instinct anywhere else in the world. You make it sound like Americans aren't buying their fat gas thirsty hummers either. I can bet you never went to China before cause all I'm seeing from you are the propagandas and brainwashing by the media. You're like a frog in the well with only your computer and the internet. tsk tsk.
- petrodollar, on 05/09/2008, -6/+2Chinamen are so filthy they drive a dolphin extinct. The rare white Yangtze dolphin died off because Chinamen filthed up the river too much.
- mediaphile, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2The International Olympic Committee, a body representing 205 countries. But that's not to say there wasn't controversy surrounding the decision.
- 1randomguyO8, on 05/09/2008, -3/+2Good question. Its like asking Hitler to host your birthday party. Kills the ***** spirit of the occasion, thats for sure.
- Bovorik, on 05/09/2008, -7/+2The IOC when they realised just how much cold hard cash they would make off of it.
- KageMushaSD, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5Donuts and a 20 KG heavy belly!
That's better... - lhbaker, on 05/09/2008, -1/+22When I buy a dress shirt, I remove the pins before wearing it. Silly Chinese.
- United857, on 05/09/2008, -12/+16A Poem
Published by the Washington Post
When we were the Sick Man of Asia,
We were called The Yellow Peril.
When we are billed to be the next Superpower,
We are called The Threat.
When we closed our doors,
You smuggled drugs to our open markets.
When we embrace Free Trade,
You blame us for taking away your jobs.
When we were falling apart,
You marched in your troops and took what you wanted.
When we tried to put the broken pieces back together again,
Free Tibet you screamed, It Was an Invasion!
When we tried Communism,
You hated us for being Communist.
When we embrace Capitalism,
You ridicule us for being Capitalist.
When we have a billion people,
You said we were destroying the planet.
When we tried limiting our numbers,
You said we abused human rights.
When we were poor,
You thought we were dogs.
When we loan you cash,
You blame us for your national debt.
When we build our industries,
You call us Polluters.
When we sell you goods,
You blame us for global warming.
When we buy oil,
You call it exploitation and genocide.
When you go to war for oil,
You call it liberation.
When we were lost in chaos and rampage,
You demanded rules of law.
When we uphold law and order against violence,
You call it violating human rights.
When we were silent,
You said you wanted us to have free speech.
When we are silent no more,
You say we are brainwashed-xenophobics.
Why do you hate us so much, we asked.
No, you answered, we don't hate you.
We don't hate you either,
But, do you understand us?
Of course we do, you said,
We have AFP, CNN and BBC's...
What do you really want from us?
Think hard first, then answer...
Because you only get so many chances.
Enough is enough,
Enough Hypocrisy for This One World.
We want One World, One Dream, and Peace on Earth.
This Big Blue Earth is Big Enough for all of Us.- gincarnated, on 05/09/2008, -8/+8Nonsense.
- 44magnum, on 05/09/2008, -1/+7Not nonsense...
- YamiJim, on 05/09/2008, -4/+2epic fail.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Next person to say "epic fail" is getting kicked square in the nuts.
- 44magnum, on 05/09/2008, -1/+7Not nonsense...
- 44magnum, on 05/09/2008, -2/+5F**kin' A.
- JeffroTa, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4post a link...
- flogistan, on 05/09/2008, -3/+5He had me hook line and sinker... then came the plug for world government at the end.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5World government? One World One Dream is the slogan for the 2008 Olympics.
There is in fact only one world, in case you never bothered to count.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5World government? One World One Dream is the slogan for the 2008 Olympics.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5顶
- frepnog, on 05/09/2008, -2/+2Wow! What a load of horse *****!
- gincarnated, on 05/09/2008, -8/+8Nonsense.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+19In case you didn't look at the photos carefully, those pins aren't exactly sharp.
- 1randomguyO8, on 05/09/2008, -0/+8Plus they are pins. I can think of worst things soldiers have to do through.
- ThinkBox, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2still... dont sneeze...
- markdall, on 05/09/2008, -0/+17The only thing I learned about standing at attention in the USAF was to flex my knees and rock back and forth slightly from time to time in order to keep from passing out while standing at attention for several minutes in a row. There were always one or two people too stupid to learn, and they'd invariably pass out after 5 or 10 minutes. (This was only during parades and such, we never had to stand at attention that long otherwise.)
- murlox, on 05/09/2008, -0/+12Don't all military forces have similar soldier-hardening program minus the pins & the cross?
- Tyrghast, on 05/09/2008, -3/+10Who the ***** cares? Their military is different, deal with it...
- stevenbrown, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Because pins in the jugular are bad.
- guany, on 05/09/2008, -5/+9And we call the Chinese xenophobic? Their military trains differently and in a way that seems strange to us, that's all.
This article is terrible. They clearly want to demonize the Chinese by talking about a strange training practice that westerners may find "barbaric" before moving on to the Tibet situation, something that has nothing to do with the pins and crosses. Propaganda at its worst, daily mail's trying to push their opinions on us.- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5A lot of Americans just aren't satisfied emotionally unless they have a scary Soviet-style enemy to hate. Since the Arab terr'ists aren't cutting the mustard scary-wise, China is the fallback evil empire of choice.
There are two things that make China scary to these people. One is because they're big, and getting bigger. The other is that they're about the only major non-white non-western country on Earth that doesn't lick our boots (like, for example, Japan does.) Some people find that threatening.
Seriously guys, China is about the most normal place on Earth. In a lot of ways they're a younger version of the US.- revengeful, on 05/09/2008, -4/+1Ok, until someone points out a glaring flaw in your logic. First off it's not "a lot" of Americans. It's a very small, elitist, profit driven portion of our population, just like most of the rest of the world. Just like China in fact. With that in mind, how can the US be represented by its elitists alone and China by it's entire "normal" population?
- blate, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4There can't have been many years out of the last 70 that the USA hasn't been using other countries to scare its own population. Maybe only the elitists are trying to create the fear, but most Americans have been falling for it
- antonycao, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1You are so damn right! Why people are so scared of things that are different from themselves?
Like in South Korea, teachers usually beat students. Is that barbaric to Americans too? It's just a different culture. That's it!- kuzotz, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1we still have catholic schools that do that here in the states. but yea different culture. Seeing that nonwhites in america whoop their kids and whites don't. thus you see white people with unruly children more so than nonwhite people.
- kuzotz, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1we still have catholic schools that do that here in the states. but yea different culture. Seeing that nonwhites in america whoop their kids and whites don't. thus you see white people with unruly children more so than nonwhite people.
- revengeful, on 05/09/2008, -4/+1Ok, until someone points out a glaring flaw in your logic. First off it's not "a lot" of Americans. It's a very small, elitist, profit driven portion of our population, just like most of the rest of the world. Just like China in fact. With that in mind, how can the US be represented by its elitists alone and China by it's entire "normal" population?
- revengeful, on 05/09/2008, -5/+0Tibet, filled to the brim with buddhists, whose religion has at its core the goal of ending all suffering, has nothing to do with sticking pins in the necks of soldiers?
I don't know anything about The Daily Mail and you're probably right about their practices but I didn't know this was occurring until I read about it in their article. The very first thing I did after reading the article was search for more information before making up my mind. All I could find so far is an article making fun of the Daily Mail article. http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/183691.html I don't think there's enough information about this to come to a personal conclusion. The picture could be fake for starters. The soldiers themselves could be putting the pins in as a method of self discipline. Also the pins are probably not even sharp, even if the soldier could keep his neck perfectly still, his breathing alone would cause the skin making contact with the pins to become red and irritated within a matter of minutes.
If it's true that the soldiers are being forced to have these pins in place during practice, then I agree with others that the practice is barbaric. This isn't a cultural difference and what's terrible is how anyone can defend anything this government does. Basic essential human compassion isn't cultural, no one wants to have pins in their necks (well some people want pins in their necks and other places, I hope you're smart enough to distinguish the difference here) and besides sociopaths, feel compassion when it happens to someone else.
The only thing terrible about this whole thing is people defending it and even admiring it. Even if the soldiers are doing this of their own free will, how many are doing so because of peer pressure or fear of discharge? There are other methods, both psychical and mental for achieving the same levels of discipline and this method is completely unnecessary.- ParanoydAndroid, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Most of your post is quite nearly pure BS.
To begin with, the practice is not barbaric, it is likely quite uncomfortable but certainly much much better than what many soldiers worldwide are called upon to do everyday. I defy you to look at pictures of people being macheted in Darfur and continue to tell me that this needle practice is something only sociopaths wish to do.
On top of that, this is not the regular military, this is a paramilitary force - this implies two things: first, that these soldiers are held to a higher standard than the others, and that their training regimen is likely tougher; second, that these people were probably not conscripted, but rather volunteered for this duty as a matter of pride.
To draw a western parallel, Navy SEALs are required during training to lie in the intertidal zone of the beach for an extended period of time. It's said to be one of the harder parts of the training, they are kept awake for over 24 hours with water constantly washing over them (crawling up the beach when necessary to keep from actually drowning of course). They nearly drown, it's basically like waterboarding. Their skin chafes and develops rashes, their lungs begin to ache from the mist seeping in, and their eyes burn and redden from the salt.
I would bet that much of the world would consider this practice far worse than what the Chinese are doing in this article. But what we have to recognize is that the people who participate in these elite organizations do so willfully; they are strong and proud and wouldn't have the training go any other way.
They want to be elite, and are fully prepared that the title comes with a price that weeds out the undeserving.- walugi, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2When Americans train tough it's because they're heroic and macho, when Chinese train hard it's cruel.
BTW Most of China's armed forces are volunteers, in China it's quite difficult to get a job in the army. I guess that's what happens if you don't wage war on countries unnecessarily.
- walugi, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2When Americans train tough it's because they're heroic and macho, when Chinese train hard it's cruel.
- jyac, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1they are army, you assh0le,
---his breathing alone would cause the skin making contact with the pins to become red and irritated within a matter of minutes
wtf? when you are an army, you prepared for the worst, not getting red and irritated on your skin. from your post, you are just an ***** should just sitting at Starbucks with your latter, you should never join the army, you will just make the rest of your colleagues look back if you do.
- ParanoydAndroid, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Most of your post is quite nearly pure BS.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+5A lot of Americans just aren't satisfied emotionally unless they have a scary Soviet-style enemy to hate. Since the Arab terr'ists aren't cutting the mustard scary-wise, China is the fallback evil empire of choice.
- craighoxton, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7"This one time, at Boot Camp..."
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2...I stuck a flute in my neck?
- BraveQuail, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2I hope it doesn't involve a gun and a female organ...
- starguy, on 05/09/2008, -5/+3What retard joins the military to become a mindless thug drone like this? Non-exclusive of China, either. Tons of retards around the world join the military to become soldier goons? What, do they seek power from this? In the end, they only catch a bullet and die rotting in the mud, after causing much damage to the world.
Wise up you stupid retards and stop becoming soldiers. No more soldiers, no more war, and humanity can finaly be done with this retarded god aweful waste of resources and time. Every time I see a soldier, I just want to kick his goose stepping ROTC ***** ass. If the rest of the world felt disgust and hostility towards these *****, we could get rid of the parasite that is all militaries. Spit on a soldier. They are not keeping you free. The only person that will defend your freedom is you yourself. Always.- Relikh, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1keep talking. when some other country comes to invade we'll see what you have to say.
i'm not a proponent for war by any means at all. but some soldiers are in it to defend their country rather than go ***** other peoples ***** up. so before you talk, why don't you not generalize every soldier you see, pleaseokthanks.
p.s. i don't have a family member in the army, have never been in the army, and only have a handful of friends in the army. i'm not some army supporter cuz i have a war monger family, just because i hate when people generalize.- kuzotz, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1if a country invades the US I don't need the military to protect my home and family.
- BobEwell, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Ha! I'd like to see you spit on someone in the military. You feel tough behind that monitor of yours?
- wrow, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Grow up, loser.
- logan074, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1I respect anyone who is willing to enlist in the military because I do not want to. No more enlistees means more politicians pushing for a draft.
- BobSlefty, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1your comment is a waste of space on so many levels. let's ignore your clear fondness for the word "retard" and assume that its overuse is simply because your vocabulary is limited and focus instead on your wish for humanity to be done with war while in almost the same breath you advocate kicking ass and spitting on people. which part of humanity does that leave YOU in, one wonders...?
you should change your name to "asshat"... somehow that seems to suit you so much better...
- Relikh, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1keep talking. when some other country comes to invade we'll see what you have to say.
- passedoutghost, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6It's called discipline. Something the writers at the Daily Mail UK don't have.
- nasalspray, on 05/09/2008, -1/+2Oh man... So what!?!
It's not like their heads are going to pop like balloons if they slouch a little. They'll get a little pinch and stand back up straight.
Have you seen the things that are used in the good ol' US of A to get dogs to do what we want them to do?? (http://www.3cdog.com/images/pinch-collar.jpg)
I guess that's ok, though. It's only a dog, right?
Get a grip. Pain can be quite a motivator, someone told me once. She was wearing a penguin outfit with a crucifix hanging from her neck. Hmmm.- nasalspray, on 05/09/2008, -0/+0http://www.3cdog.com/images/pinch-collar.jpg - sorry.
- gazzerh, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1If one of them were to faint (which is fairly common on parade) then it would be a problem. Those pins would cause some serious injury.
- macmangb, on 05/09/2008, -9/+4If this is what they do to their own conscripts imagine what they are doing to the Tibetans. They murder and peaceful demonstrating Tibetan protesters, (Check this photo out of one of Chinese torch thugs stepping on a Tibetan protester: http://i26.tinypic.com/25txagx.jpg) they sell arms to terrorists and they actively preventing aid being sent to the Burmese hurricane survivors.
All Chinese still believe that Taiwan and Tibet is theirs. Stop supporting China by boycotting Chinese goods and services, do not sell goods and services to the Chinese, prank call Chinese businesses and disrupt them as much as possible until they take responsibility for the millions murdered by paying compensation and they take a stand against their government.
Do not support a culture that oppresses Taiwan and Tibet!- DrCyclops, on 05/09/2008, -1/+1You are an absolute idiot.
- antonycao, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1The "Chinese torch thugs" were wearing sport shoes instead leather boots. It's more likely to be British police.
China has offered Burma more than 1 million and another 4.5 million is on its way. It also urged Burma to open up and accept worldwide assistance. In comparison, the US offered 0.25 million and has been turned down.
- Yage2006, on 05/09/2008, -3/+1Does that include a pole up there ass also ?
- wrow, on 05/09/2008, -2/+0That's just stupid...
- widgetmaker, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3Buried for it being a Daily Mail article.
- s32843, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2chinese army has been using these practices to train army for more than thousands years.
- mfc5200, on 05/09/2008, -2/+1I'm really glad we don't live in a country with military parades. To me, they seem to have the point of both showing strength to other countries & domestic civilians. It's the second part I have a problem with, a very big "Don't mess with the all powerful government" attitude.
In any case, they always look cool. A Chinese march from 1999.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=china+milita ...- monkeyrun, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Instead we have our military parade in the middle east.
- googleabcd, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1And in Hollywood movies as well, the most recent one is the "Iron Man"
- monkeyrun, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Instead we have our military parade in the middle east.
- antonycao, on 05/09/2008, -0/+0Ugh...what's the fuss about it... Yes, let's offer soldiers candies and popcorns and see how they fight like girls in a war.
- blarch, on 05/10/2008, -1/+1Barbaric! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYgXRU8gCls
- victrola, on 05/10/2008, -0/+1That guy with the pins sticking into his neck is hella handsome. What a jawline!
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