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  • stickyfeet17, on 10/11/2007, -316/+39In Soviet Russia, US leaves YOU!
    • yohnstoppable, on 10/11/2007, -40/+99Kill yourself
      • mrmdc, on 10/11/2007, -22/+5Why get him to do you dirty work?
      • JulioJuliopolis, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5In Soviet Russia, yourself kills.... Oh, wait a minute. XD
    • Charlotte_Web, on 10/11/2007, -66/+20At least his comment was more entertaining than the actual article.
    • natey3, on 10/11/2007, -29/+15Ummm, why aren't people screaming FAKE liberal propaganda garbage?? Because thats what this is, written by a "neolib"
      Buried as inaccurate
      • LMaxey, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6@natey3
        Buried as freaking the ***** out
      • indorock, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9you scream fake you better have something to back that up with smartass
        • natey3, on 10/11/2007, -12/+3Ok, a 85 year old Jew complaining about ***** he wouldn't care about, happens to sound exactly like a digg/liberal ***** saying he's moving away, all solemn like some ***** drama movie. The guy gives nothing but vague descriptors and has the old man using pop culture politcal terms. I'm sure its legit, really.
      • Kranklin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Maybe i've been living under a rock but when was the last time that "... news refused to question the government, and the ones who did were not in the newspaper business much longer."?
    • sjl127, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3Buried as stupid, liberal commie propaganda.
    • mcoticch, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Stuckyfeet, no way did u deserve to be dugg down than badly. I support you
  • Gaya2081, on 10/11/2007, -22/+272Then you see stores like this and it all sickens you http://digg.com/political_opinion/How_to_Peacefully_Remove_Muslims_from_Your_Neighborhood
    • knupso, on 10/11/2007, -7/+61It would sicken me if it were on the front page. Only 6 idiots dugg the story when I looked at it. That actually gives me a little hope that most people have the common decency not to be bigots.
      • bluezinc, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6It saddens me that it now has 47 diggs. Some people are just racist assholes I guess.
    • darkzealot89, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27I went ahead and buried that article Gaya. I don't think the digg community would ever let that to the front page.
      • crichton101, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18I'll be honest, I almost think it would be better if it did reach the front page. But only to show how evil some people are.
    • ninj3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12wtf it's gone up to 15 diggs. This is worrying since I assume there should be people burying it yet there are enough digging it to make the net increase.
    • cphelps, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13I buried that article as well. How pathetic.
    • sigginike90, on 10/11/2007, -16/+3YEAH! Why would you remove them peacefully!? =S
    • rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19WTF? Damn! I'm going to go give my Muslim neighbors a big hug, just to offset the crazy.
    • scragg0x, on 10/11/2007, -16/+2should of read How_to_Peacefully_Remove_Terrorists_from_Your_Neighborhood
      • quantumHobbit, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1scragg0x
        The problem is that many don't understand that distinction. In the vein of this article many in 1930's Germany didn't understand the distinction between Jews and criminals or enemies of the fatherland.
    • HunterTV, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13I went through all the comments on that article just to enhance my blocklist.
    • FadieZ, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5How the hell is that article getting dugg so quickly? It's almost as if there were a horde of fascist pigs hiding in the ***** of the digg community waiting for a story like this to come out.

      P.S. Hunter: It looks like most of the commenters were burying the article. (Thank God)
    • TheWorm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I thought that article was going to be satire. Sadly I was wrong. Terrorism exists (although most muslims you will meet are peaceful nice people). Battling it with more hatred is moving backwards. We often don't see it, but fundementalists of any religion are dangerous, and the fundementalist christians have a lot of control in our government. It's scary.
    • Darth_tater, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3you dont have to worry anymore, that link is no longer valid. i guess that story was actually removed by a digg mod.
  • outgun, on 10/11/2007, -15/+129You ain't seen nothing yet.
    • therightside, on 10/11/2007, -43/+14The sky is falling!! Hurry spread fear!!!!
      • crichton101, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20Bush and the Neo-Cons are way ahead of us. They even got us to invade another country with fear of 9/11 and terrorism(and then ofcourse promptly changed their story each time they talk about). And now they're trying to do it again with Iran. They even try to invoke our memories of WWII by using the word Axis. Anyone who refuses to see it is a fool.
        • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2And anyone who says ***** like you guys keep saying is even more of a fool, especially when you call them fearmongers.
    • arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8You got that right....

      Saddly
    • Superflks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6B- B- B- B- Baby
  • oOLiquidNightOo, on 10/11/2007, -8/+172on a lighter note, digg's google ad on the side panel, is advertising "Free Survivor Song Downloads. Great Selection."
    • joemofo214, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1haha
    • r1ptide64, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Another reads "חדש - תשובות ומסמכים מתקופת השואה מאגר מידע עם". Pretty sure it's actually for Snarg Tees, though.
  • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -35/+294It is absolutely rife on Digg. Muslim is the new Jew.

    In one thread I asked the same question over and over again. It was a buried thread where a certain bury group were having an open heart to heart. In this group there were militant pro-zionists, anti-Islamists and a cross over of the two.

    The question was "I denounce extremism in all forms. Do you?"

    The only person who would answer the question answered a roundabout 'no', the others refused to answer. Apparently some people see extremism as ok if it is against a certain group. Frightening.
    • seadeus, on 10/11/2007, -30/+6Do you denounce extremism? How many wars are muslims fighting around the world right now? Seeing what the Muslims are doping doesn't make a a person a Bush supporter.
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17Yes I denounce extremism in all forms. Again you equate 1 billion+ people to being all in on global wars grouping them all up as muslims. My religion is not Islam but I bothered to read a tranaslation of the Qu'ran to see what the hype was about. Before you denounce a billion people don't you think you could read one (small) book first?

        In Nazi Germany they went with a different approach, they described Jewish people as hook-nosed money lenders and unscrupulous landlords. All Jewish people were tainted with the same brush. There were Jews that had fought for Germany in the Great War, lost limbs, lost lives, willing to fight to the end. But 'Jews' were largely blamed for Germany losing the war and were depicted as having profitted when others lost everything. That's just ridiculous. Jewish men on the front died just the same. Jewish wives and mothers lost their husbands and sons just the same.

        Equating 1 billion Muslim people with a handful of extremists is equally ridiculous. (and we can't even conclude that 9-11 was engineered by religious extremists either since Mohammed Atta was on CIA funded ISI's payroll).
        • duggtodeath, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Amen, Albion! Otto Frank, the father of Anne Frank fought for Germany during the Great War (WWI) and his country turned around and sent his family to die in the concentration camps. He survived until about the 70s I think.
    • knupso, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29Depends on you definition of extremism and what they are fighting for and tactics used. Things would never change if it weren't for extremist. There would still be segregation in the US if not for extremist, there would be apartheid in South Africa if not for extremist. There would be a lot of English colonies if it weren't for extremist. So yes some forms of extremism is good.
      • taitacakes, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10The question is, who is going to be the next "extremist" legend like Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth?
        It'll be an interesting day if/when Bush is assasinated, which news networks show remorse? Which networks say they hated him all along?
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4There wouldn't be need for change if there were no extremists. There would be no colonies if extremism didn't exist. Thats how colonies are made.

        You can end colonization without extremism though. Gandhi wasn't an extremist. He believed in non-violence. Non violence means put a restraint on your actions....you will never use violence. Hence non-violence is not extremist even if you really, really mean it.
        • NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The most dangerous form of extremism is extremism of the "center"

          Many politically active people in America insist on confining themselves to a one-dimensional "Political Spectrum". "Left" and "Right" halves of this imaginary "spectrum" are so busy hating and fighting EACH OTHER that they march together into the bloody abyss yawning at their very feet. The artificial "spectrum" is just another name for being perpetually divided and conquered. George Washington was NEITHER "Left" NOR "Right": He was a moral thinking human being.

          Notice that it is the government, by virtue of its size, that defines the "Center" of the "Spectrum". In some countries -- Nazi Germany, for example -- the "Center" is actually genocidal and insane and MORALLY extreme. In fact, the "Center", being the most insulated from reality, is OFTEN the moral extreme -- the extreme of ignorance, arrogance, indifference, etc..

          But that "extremism of the center" goes unnoticed, because geometry creates the false impression that the "Left" and the "Right" are the only possible extremes.

          No matter how moral, intelligent, and sensible the "Left" and "Right" may be, from a geometrical perspective, they are automatically excluded from the discussion. Thus, the embrace of the "Spectrum" by the "Left" means death to peace and death to the "Left" as well.

          Our political conceptions need to change. If we resist the satanic War System on terms that have been set by the system itself, then we are sure to lose our country, our peace and our freedom.

          http://www.welfarestate.com/unite/ -- Left and Right Must Unite!
          http://www.welfarestate.com/nwo/ -- Escape from the HIVE

          We must find our OWN conception of the world, a conception that returns to American founding values, a conception that gives freedom and morality precedence over the meaningless geometry that currently reigns.

          http://www.haloscan.com/comments/tf2777/article13843_htm/#55445
          • codmate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nationalism can also be a form of extremism.
        • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2You can be anywhere left, right, centre, and be extremist. Likewise you can be anywhere and be non-extremist. Left right was only ever a social-economic model. Right wing being free-market, left wing meaning social welfare state.

          There is already a widely accepted convention in expressing extremism in relation to the left-right model: an extra dimension forming a second axis marked authoritarian versus libertarian. http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2
      • Ndiggnation, on 10/11/2007, -13/+12I'm sick of people acting like those that suscribe to a religion are a race. I'm a card carrying liberal, atheist to be more precise. Sure, practice your religion if you like. Come here and live and work and play, but don't expect special protection or privileges because of your deity in the sky. Personally, I think screw your religion (any religion). Don't push it in my society, and I won't hate yours. I'm not a bigot against someone's ethnicity. I do not believe despising your religion is bigotry, however. It's a belief system you are a part of, not a race.

        Don't hate a group of people for their ethnicity (Arab, Jew, Caucasian, whatever). I don't, however, have a problem with prejudice against religion. That's just me. This world would be a better place without petty deities to fight over. Digg down if you like, but screw your religion, not your people. Whomever you are.
        • peevegrider, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5So where exactly do i go to join this "liberal party" you speak of? Would that be next door to the Green Party HQ or the Democrats?
          • Ndiggnation, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3It's a figure of speech, jackass.
        • feshmania, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11You're arguments (if that's what they are) are ridiculous. To say that bigotry against an ethnicity is wrong, but bigotry against religion is okay is ludicrous. I am a faithless person, I do not agree with religion, but, just as it is disgusting to show prejudice against a people based on their religion, it is equally awful to do it based on their beliefs. That's the problem with atheists, you all believe you are above the rest of the world because you don't have a faith; but if you think about it, your faith in not having faith is just as obnoxious. Get off your high horse, please, for your own sake and let people believe any ideas they want to.
        • pintomp3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4funny you said "I'm sick of people acting like those that suscribe to a religion are a race" but went on to mention jews as an ethnicity along with arab and caucasian. it's interesting how people throw the argument of "it's not racism" when it comes to islamophobia or anti-islamism, but not when it comes to anti-semitism. while neither is technically "racism", to practice either is bigotry and wrong. i think the whole point is hating someone based on race, sex, religion, sexual preference, etc is wrong.
          • 09F911029D74E, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Amusingly, Arabs are a Semitic ethnicity too...
        • noamsml, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Why would bigotry be any less wrong if it were against a religion than if it were against a race? Sure, religion doesn't deserve a safe haven from questioning, but hating someone for their religion is the same as hating them for their sexual preference, preferred music, or any other choice.
      • DinoJKT, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1So they were probably extremely antiextremists.
        • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3That would make them extremist. If you condemn a person's actions and then as retribution repeat those actions against them you have become what you condemned.

          Speaking as someone that conversed with them, they were extremist so long as it was their own brand. As 'NonZionist' point out below...extremism is a threat no matter who it is against and no matter who is carrying it out.
      • pAq6Swad, on 09/16/2008, -5/+0"So yes some forms of extremism IS good"

        Digg that mother ***** up! You ***** are idiots. The only stance one can legitimately have against this administration is ANTI-extremism. The worst case of extremism rooted in good causes that I know of, the French Revolution, was far worse off afterwards than if had never occurred. Stop infecting each other with hollywood opinions. *****.
        As for things never changing without an extremist, my friend, you are wrong again. The past 200 year history of England and Australia, for instance.
        • noamsml, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I'm rather confused. What do you want to say?
    • unusualbob, on 10/11/2007, -28/+18"Muslim is the new Jew."

      except that these jews attack and kill innocent people and they are praised for it.
      • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -24/+2This is such a hypocritical statement, you can blam the Jews for everything and deny the holocaust, but now this guy says he's leaving and he's credible, even though he's a Jew and he's making all of it up because there was no holocaust...

        It's okay to be Muslim or Atheist or anti-America, but it's not okay to be Jewish, Christian or Conservative. Grats Digg, you're a brainwashed cespool of Allah-ites.
        • wakkow, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13I've read your comment twice and I still have no idea what point you're trying to make in this context.
          • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0Hmm... you're right, it really doesn't make sense. Oh well.
        • KyleGoetz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The Holocaust targeted more than Jews--it targeted Jehova's Witnesses, the handicapped, homosexuals, etc. Thus, the concern in the US, by parallel, would be that the US would eventually extend its reach beyond Islam to other non-mainstream Christian, Abrahamic religions (and gays--surprise, surprise, many Americans hate them!).
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15So you think Islam and its 1+ billion followers are fairly represented by a tiny minority of extremists who follow in the politcal aspirations of Qutb.

        Not all Muslims are extremists just as not all Jews were hook nosed moneylenders.
        • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2How is the majority opinion in polls that 9/11 was justified and the mass protest a "tiny minority?"
      • Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2The thing is -- only a minority of them do. Jesus, some of you really love generalizing... And that's probably what's so dangerous here. When you make "the Muslim" an enemy.
      • quantumHobbit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Apparently unusualbob is not up with current fashion. pst you're supposed to not like muslims now.
    • NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199112--02.htm
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      "Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can be used to disallow terror as a means of war... We are very far from any moral hesitations when concerned with the national struggle. First and foremost, terror is for us a part of the political war appropriate for the circumstances of today..."
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      -- Yitzhak Shamir, former Israeli Prime Minister, "Terror", Lehi journal, 1943


      I'm not a Muslim and I'm not a fan of Muslims. But I regard this double-standard and this Nazi-like scapegoating of an entire religion as a threat to us ALL. It subverts our fundamental principles. The rule of law has to apply to everyone EQUALLY -- otherwise, the law becomes a farce.

      http://www.rabble.ca/in_her_own_words.shtml?x=51478
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      Our politicians and public commentators have become very fond of reminding Canadian Muslims that secularism and freedom of expression are inviolable governing principles of this country. These same individuals are so afraid of invoking secularism and freedom of expression when they talk about Israel that, since the bombardment of Lebanon began, my anger at their hypocrisy has turned into pity.
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      -- Rahat Kurd, Questions for Canadians, 24 Jul 2006
    • pAq6Swad, on 09/16/2008, -3/+2@Albionshore

      Very well said. But we're talking about digg here. Every thread is the ***** internet equivalent of an L. A. riot. Never have I seen any of the following in a place I would once have least expected it:
      -ignorance
      -extremism (warped reality)
      -herd behavior
    • mwmccullough, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Maybe they didn't know what "denounce" meant? You never know.
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2They spent most of their time encouraging racism and segregation in others. Maybe, but it is a big ask. One agenda was certainly muslim bashing, another was anything that would encourage an escalation in middle east conflict. One wrote "why should we not revel in the deaths of our sworn enemy" in response to another aircraft carrier being sent to the gulf and the chance of going to war with Iran.
    • knupso, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Noun 1. extremist - a person who holds extreme views radical - a person who has radical ideas or opinions Also One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics. Sorry but Gandhi was an extremist. He went to extremes for what he believed in. He was non-violent, but still a person with extreme views. I stand by what I said, bad grammar aside. Some forms of extremism are good. It brings about change, and gets an issue noticed that might otherwise not.
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Non-violent. No matter what he did his actions were tempered, restrained, held back....he could not go to the extreme level because there was something he could not do: VIOLENCE.

        It was not extreme because he held back....that is the antithesis of extremism. It was hardly a radical idea or opinion...non violence has been around forever....most people refer to Jesus. I'll go a little further back, Lot. Extremism is oppression.

        It might bring about what you consider as good but it is only good from your perspective. That generally comes back to bite you. Saddam was the CIAs blue eyed boy in the 80s. He was extreme but the West thought he was good back then... If you deny extremism in one, you need to deny it in all otherwise you're a hypocrite. If you are happy being a hypocrite because it gives you short term gains e.g. Saddam in 1980s Iraq, training Mujahideen(Taliban) in Afghanistan to fight Soviets then that is your call to make.



        But it is not good...you just consider it profitable. Everything that you wish to oppress is only there because somebody oppressed it on you.
    • Botanicus, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I dont consider myself an extremist, though I confess I don't approve of the Extremely incorrect view of islam that the muslim extremists have taken. I've known several muslims who are loving, peaceful people. Their teaching goes against this jihad just as much as the Christian teaching goes against bombing abortion clinics.

      While i agree muslims (and most non-atheistic religions) are being persecuted in the states, Those who are trying to hurt people are only making the matter worse.
      • Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I agree, but the hurting definitely goes in both ways. :-( Nothing good will come out of that.
      • codmate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ummm - you can have an "atheistic religion"?

        From the OED
        theism:
        a. gen. Belief in a deity, or deities, as opposed to atheism. b. Belief in one god, as opposed to polytheism or pantheism; = MONOTHEISM. c. Belief in the existence of God, with denial of revelation: = DEISM. d. esp. Belief in one God as creator and supreme ruler of the universe, without denial of revelation: in this use distinguished from deism.
    • Mirag3, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Judging by the fact that much of the Middle East wants to literally _kill_all_the_jews_, I think one could safely say the Jews are the new Jews.
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Most of the people in the Middle East just want peace actually. The majority of Palestinians want a comple cessation. Its the minority of extremists, be they Muslim or Jewish, that wish to up the fighting. Israeli wanted the land it got it. Their country was built for them and it was paid for them. Time to let them get on with things. Start building bridges.
    • timothybryce, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1"I denounce extremism in all forms. Do you?"

      Extremism = something you don't like.
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Extremism = Self defeating

        Check out ALL forms of oppression in history. It all failed at some point.
    • polybot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1To be accurate "The new Jew" is more likely what you Americans refer to as neo-cons: the paranoid beliefs that the Jew/neocon is orchestrating wars, profiteering, controlling all government, corrupting the species etc etc. I suggest you read the letters sent by Joseph Goebbels to the US embassy in 1939, just replace the word Jew with neocon.
      By the way, the story was obviously fabricated (Nationalist Socialists are particularly keen on propaganda)
      • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2On the contrary the neo-cons have been given a blank cheque and are running the show. Don't believe me? Check out the stock price history for Halliburton.
  • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -20/+105"muslims attack innocent people. muslims get empowered by spineless, clueless, PC law-enforcement types. muslims let their fellow muslims know how to game the pandering law enforcement with a "know your rights for terrorists" notice. We've seen it over and over and over again. This is just the latest example. When will these people at DHS learn?" (THAT GOT 26 DIGGS AND COUNTING)

    COMPARE THAT WITH.....

    "Yet after six years of a National Socialist government, the 700,000 Jews in Germany were worth 8 billion marks, while the nearly 80 million German citizens were worth only 200 billion marks. Each Jew on average had 4.57, or four-and-a-half times, as much as the average German. Jewish net worth, which had been 4 billion marks in 1918, had doubled, at the expense of the German people. Jews also owned substantial property (for example, more than half — about 60% — of Berlin belonged to the Jews, although they were only 3.8% of the population). That proves the extent to which Jewish parasites had exploited the German people." "Du bist sofort im Bilde" - Nazi Propaganda 1939.-



    http://www.digg.com/world_news/OUTRAGE_DHS_Gives_muslim_Groups_Plans_for_Increased_Security_in_Special_CC
    http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/imbild1.htm
  • charmides, on 10/11/2007, -53/+4Uhhhhhh, and I've SEEN this old ass article before.

    diggnewb
  • UncleAlaGator, on 10/11/2007, -59/+8I will follow Bush wherever he leads!
    • Derrekito, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15wtf?
    • Myonosken, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11It's sarcasm you fool.
    • Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Well, you're set if he ever starts *leading* then...
      • rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Leading =/= hiding behind a desk thousands of miles away and sending people into battle with a wave of the hand.
  • SirBotchness, on 10/11/2007, -46/+18Yes cause we are going to start putting people in ovens.
    • Derrekito, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19Hitler's army did it in secret. We already have many secret prisons with prisoners being tortured. So if the U.S has a LARGE influx of prisoners, what do they do? I wouldn't rule it out, especially if Guliani somehow gets elected.
    • Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10There were Germans loyal to the Nazi party saying the same thing... no wait, since that atrocity had never happened, they simply never imagined that COULD happen
    • rizla420, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8SirBotchness, I think the idea that we'd stoop that low seems preposterous RIGHT NOW. But when the populace is stirred into a frenzy and the mass psychology of the nation is polarized against a common enemy. The enemy is framed to be considered subhuman. So people view the actions against the enemy as "ok" because they are subhuman. Currently such atrocities wouldnt happen in the US. If the trajectory we're on continues without redirection we're heading towards a destination that could lend itself to justifying these kinds of acts.

      People can be fickle and easily manipulated if you present them with the right kinds of misinformation. Once the meme gets implanted into the psyche of a few, it spreads virally untill the whole of a nation is infected. Its just a matter of picking the right initial hosts to harbor your thought virus. In my opinion those who seem the most easily infected host are the hard line Christians... They're unalterable "faith" and lack of reason is the perfect exploitation vehicle.

      WIth that said... *****. ***** double *****
      • NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2+(
        Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

        Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
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        -- Herman Goering, April 18, 1946, recorded in Nuremberg Diary, by Gustave Gilbert.


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        Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it.
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        -- Douglas MacArthur

        .

        http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11204 -- Tom Lantos Democrats seek World War IV

        http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Neoconservative_hopes_prays_Bush_will_bomb_0530.html -- Podhoretz "hoping and praying" for more war

        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070610/ap_on_go_co/us_iran -- Sen. Lieberman calls for the U.S. to attack Iran

        http://www.courant.com/news/custom/topnews/hcu-lieberman-0702,0,4688988.story?coll=hc_tab01_layout
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        Lieberman: Iran Has Declared War
        By DAVID LIGHTMAN | Washington Bureau Chief, The Hartford Courant
        3:39 PM EDT, July 2, 2007

        WASHINGTON - Connecticut Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman asserted Monday that the Iranian government has in effect declared war on the United States.
        ....
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        Sure: And "Polish Terrorists" attacked a German radio station in 1939, leaving Hitler with "No Choice" but to swallow up half of Poland, AS PLANNED!

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,785394,00.html -- the 1996 "Clean Break" plan for "reshaping" the Middle East

  • mobbo, on 10/11/2007, -35/+169Watching "SiCKO" would make anyone want to leave the US.
    • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -44/+6Maybe just lazy poor people... hopefully, at least.
    • therightside, on 10/11/2007, -43/+12Watching a fat self centered media whore lie makes you want to leave the US?
    • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5It did, in fact

      I wanted to move to canada, but it's too cold, so I'm moving to Australia after college :)
      • funkboy27, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Unless you're in Florida, or Southern California, we have very similar weather to a lot of the US. Especially in Vancouver. In fact, it hardly ever gets that cold here, and snows rarely. Do your research before you make a blanket statement like that. It's a big country.

        Oh, and yes, our health care system is THAT good. At least in relation to the US ;)
      • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Australia is ok but expensive, they have a semi fascist lying Christian pig called John Howard...They have had droughts floods and droughts wipe out huge swathes of productive lands. 2 Supermarkets and 3 companies control the food...its a bit ***** there. Still the local market has plenty of cheap food and plenty of cultural diversity...Melbourne has a great diversity but Perth and Brisbane have the best weather...If you like IT stick to Melbourne if Mining is your thing, Perth and Queensland need Miners for Alumina, gold, Coal, Gypsum, Silica sands. Perth Has Iron, about as much as Iron as a steady 4 day drive will take you ^3.....
        If Cold is your thing and want to live on an Island the size of Texas with more trees than numbers then Tasmania is awesome! That place is Cold, It snows a few times at sea level and the west is wet and windy but plenty of work if boat building is your thing...Sydney is a ***** hole!
      • scragg0x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Don't worry about the cold in Canada, go ahead and buy some land... global warming is coming 'soon' right??
      • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I'm moving to either Vancouver, Canada or Frankfurt, Germany. Once I graduate from University in 2010
    • Richthofen80, on 10/11/2007, -8/+6If one movie could make you renounce your citizenship and leave the US, you might be a bit weak-minded. Mr. Moore probably makes some valid points about healthcare deficiencies in the US, but its hardly a reason to abandon this nation. Especially when this nation set the precedent for government as the mercy of its citizens. (Which, when emblazoned into its Constitution, was the first such nation to declare that man exists for his own sake and does not exist at the pleasure of the government).

      The United States has some of the best treatment centers for cancer in the world. We have some of the most effective pharmacology companies which are curing thousands of diseases. Some people are without health insurance. I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
      • scragg0x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Next thing taxpayers will be paying for is everyone to have an air conditioner and a cell phone
      • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well seeing that I have dealt with some awful ***** int he US with its system especially in health and other areas of efficiency. And having traveled to countries in the EU(and not getting a hotel but staying with people and learning the various cultures). I would have to say that once I'm out of college I'll do what a lot of Americans are doing and just live outside the country for awhile. It won't hurt me, and it'll be great for me anyway. The only person that objects is my father, but the bastard never raised me in the first place, and he's a coward.. Then again you wouldn't have respect for a father that leaves you and your mother when you're only at the age of 3.
    • seitanguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Dude, I know what you mean. I was born and raised in Chicago, but moved to Vancouver when I was 18. I have been considering taking a higher paying job just south of the border, but that movie really frightens me about no longer having guaranteed health care. Still looking in the States, but Vancouver and Toronto are now now the cities I am focusing on.
      • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Chi Town represent!!!
        Yea onc eI'm out of University. I'm in Canada, but for now I have good health insurance(United Health)... When I got sick in Turkey. I showed them my insurance card,and they said to me in Turkish: "What the hell is that?"

        I explained to them that its health insurance only to get this answer " What kind of country does that to people. Puts insurance on health. All humans get sick... Why not just make health care free through taxes?"

        Well I had to explain it while he was treating me.. My god the dude was like. "America isn't what its all cracked up to be. The rest of the world is leaving that country behind while it is remaining very stagnant.."
    • scragg0x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Who funded/invented most of the drugs and health care practices that the socialists countries use? I'm not trying to claim it was the U.S., just asking
      • codmate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Many different nations all over the world.
    • PrettyLadyGrace, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2then leave the us and experience the "wonderful" heathcare system in canada!!! I'd love it if you did.
    • lougoose, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5That's cause Bush has completely ***** this country with his extreme right-wing religious views. If he would have some common sense, then this country would be so much more accepting and accepted in the global community. However, because Bush is beginning to allow people to be segregated and treated differently, he is encouraging this country to hate outsiders and anyone that is not white, christian, and completely right-wing.
    • grendel20, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Then leave.
    • Styrkur, on 04/05/2008, -0/+0So I guess letting the Government control the Health Care System is what will make it effective, huh? I guess that worked well for Public Education? I guess it worked well for Veteran's Care? I guess it worked well for Medicare/Medicaid? Compare those systems that are government controlled to private owned systems, who provides Higher Quality?

      Just because not all of the people are covered, you are crying about it... Maybe people are not so smart, so they want their government to baby them and tell them what to do.
  • Stewmoney, on 10/11/2007, -37/+9Pics or it didn't happen...
  • Otnip, on 10/11/2007, -13/+37Pretty scary story... Really hope it doesn't come to that. Seems anything could happen with this administration though...
    • hmmmok, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7ANYTHING...
    • lougoose, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2If someone would just impeach Bush then this could all be over. We need a Democrat in office to make this country more accepting and be semi-respected throughout the world.

      As of right now, everyone thinks we are a bunch of *****-heads thanks to Bush's inability to speak and/or make a semi-coherent sentence or semi-accepting thought.
    • mz00m, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

      Napoleon Bonaparte
  • rda1441, on 10/11/2007, -67/+99Dugg Down...no real proof or anything there...guy could just make the whole things up for all we know.
    • FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/11/2007, -18/+86I'm pretty liberal, but I smell propaganda all over this piece.
    • Derrekito, on 10/11/2007, -14/+19even so, it is a good anecdote; and it is important to see how what is going on in the U.S. is NOT new.
      • dpratt, on 10/11/2007, -8/+17Fake But Accurate is all you require to persuade you to an argument?

        How about this - I met a unicorn the other day who was talking to his neighbor, the Cyclops, and they both agreed that the current political state in the US was a lot like it was around 42 B.C. in Rome. They're both leaving for Mount Olympus on Monday, and they want me to go with them.

        I have offered as many verifiable sources and proof as the author of the linked article, and thus, have made just as good an argument in your eyes.

        Will you join me in the Exodus of the Mythological Creatures?
        • rda1441, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Sure! Me and big foot will be around about 10...
    • OsiVert, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Agreed. It's stressful for an older person to move, let alone move out of the country. It would only make sense if that person had a family back in germany. Older people would rather live out the rest of their lives close to their immediate family rather than leave the country because they think something is wrong.
      • rnwen2750, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Thank you for enlightening us as to the mindset of every older person in the US.
        • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1that's actually true. They don't have long anyway so they spend their years either working or resting based on how the family treats them.... Some families throw them in a home, and while others don't offer support. While a lot often allow their grandparents or parents to move in when they are of elderly age. Most minorities do the third choice believe it or not. Its not unusual to see 3 to 4 generations in 1 household in a Black, Hispanic, or Asian family.
    • TheDragon, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14This isn't exactly the first time comparisons have been made to Nazi Germany. The likenesses have bee pointed out since pretty close to the beginning of Bush's term as president. I see no reason to doubt the validity of the anecdote, as it's a very common opinion.
      • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -7/+3...and, I hope you realize, a ***** stupid opinion.
        • Buddhaismybuddy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4I wonder how many Jews heard that right before the holocaust.
        • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Buddhaismybuddy, if you knew ***** about Nazi Germany, you would know better than to say something that stupid. There was plenty of actual evidence and lots of clear signs as the Holocaust happened, not this intangible "he could" ***** people keep pulling out of their asses.
    • g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4It is difficult to say one way or the other whether it is true or not. A lot of the comparisons of Bush to Hitler or America to the Nazi Germany gets dismissed as hyperbole. For the most part the people who say (and hear) such things are too young to have had any direct experience with the holocaust so the comparison that goes on in is America as it appears now to Germany as it appeared just after the war when the true horror of the holocaust became apparent. That comparison is a patently ridiculous one.

      That said, the comparison between the America of today and the Germany of the early 1930s is more apt. A neighbour of mine saw the war from the German side and noted pretty much the same points as were raised in this story. I was a little surprised when he talked to me about it since I'd always had him pegged as being more conservative and frankly, a bit of a racist. When he made the comparison between America now and Germany then I thought it was an opinion worth listening to given his extensive experience with the latter. For all his racism, his experiences during the war tuned him into a complete pacifist. The sincerity his hatred for Hitler, Nazi-ism, the holocaust, police states, and war carried clearly through his voice when he spoke about his experiences. It really was chilling to hear him talk about these things and then liken them to policies and events taking place in the US today.
      • aufumy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I would love to hear him on Youtube
        • g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2He's pretty old (late 80s, maybe early 90s) I doubt he's got the internet or a video camera. More importantly, even though he was not directly involved in the worst of the atrocities it clear he feels a terrible shame for playing any part in that war. The only thing he can talk about that he feels alright about is helping to evacuate some of the German soldiers on the eastern front so they could surrender to the Americans instead of being captured by the Russians. I doubt very much he'd speak openly on the subject. The only reason he spoke to me about it was that he'd seen something on the news that had upset him and he needed to get it off his chest (we were both out walking our dogs at the time). It's not like he developed a really detailed well thought out analysis on the subject, rather it was more like some glimmer of recognition had brought back some truly awful memories.
      • Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Yeah, there are a lot of similarities if not during the war itself, but the precursor to it... The most important one is that the president is ruling mostly through fear of a poorly defined "enemy" that he can apply quite freely on people. Last time, it was the Jews, this time it's mostly Muslims. And he makes up his evidence as he goes along to support his war. Last time Jews carried diseases, this time there are phantom WMD's. He frequently overrules people even in his own political party. He cuts down peoples rights through e.g. the PATRIOT ACT. Of course, Hitler was a couple of notches more crazy and is likely a case of a mentally disturbed person being in charge of a state. But there is still a ton of parallels to make.
    • audiophiliac, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4No real proof of anything in the bible yet people still flock to church on Sunday. Is it called "foot in mouth" to myself since I go to church on those days?
  • ripstuntz, on 10/11/2007, -20/+10Great article. However, I highly doubt that max execution and containment of Americans is likely...
    • dimebags, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11that's hope conquering experience
    • lnf69, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10That's what most Germans kept telling each other until the end of WWII, when the proof was thrown in their faces.
    • kesam, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Ah yes, the "it can never happen here" defense. Of course, people are seldom able to clarify WHY it could never happen to them, they just "know" it.
    • DinoJKT, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Well, it actually DID happen to the american japanese during WW2
  • Kotelic, on 10/11/2007, -69/+66It's not like Bush is gonna become some kind of dictator. His time will be up and then he'll leave office. And comparing Bush's Presidency to Nazi Germany just seems deplorable to me.
    • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -12/+29Unless all out war breaks out with the U.S. and friends Vs. China/Iran/North Korea/Russia etc., and elections cant be held "for safety's sake". Wouldnt that be an interesting turn of events... o_O
      • KJay, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1I would give him no more than a month to live if that happened. Hell, I'd attempt to kill himself, as would many other respectable Americans.
      • VenTatsu, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Or maybe the CIA will use it's mind control drugs to pass a constitutional amendment to make Bush the emperor for life?

        I might feel really dumb if what you propose actually happens but until that point it's just hyperbole.
      • JeffH, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Honestly, bravo for that comment. You honestly, truly think that in the situation Bush is in right now he b able to pull off something like that? No president in the history of the United States was capable of doing that, yet for some odd reason one of the most hated presidents to ever be in office is?
      • hmmmok, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Would it be interesting? Not one presidential term ever ends without some wingnut claiming that such a crisis could happen, not that ur a wingnut or anything ...
      • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3It still wouldn't happen, and you are the one who is fearmongering. It's so ironic that the same people that say "BUSH AND CO WANT US AFRAID LOLOL!" are the ones who spread stupid, baseless fear like this. Go put on your tinfoil hat and read a history book. Maybe eventually you'll be smart enough to realize you don't need it.
        • Conwaysb0718, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I'm not afraid, are you afraid? I just made the comment it would be interesting if something like that happened because it is possible albeit far fetched. Who knows where the U.S. is headed. We could be at war with Iran in the next 30 minutes as far as we know.
      • Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"and elections cant be held "for safety's sake"."

        Actually, he recently showed that he's willing to go the democratic way... with the caveat: as long as he get the way he wants in the end. ;)
    • JonnyLegal, on 10/11/2007, -22/+18Exactly, comparing Bush to Hitler is ridiculous.
      • Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4Comparing anyone to HItler is ridiculous, even Hitler.
        • crichton101, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6There is one downside to us not comparing things to Hitler and the Nazis, we may not see when there really is a connection to the series of events that brought them into power and began their conquest of Europe.
      • NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5According to Emperor Bush 41, Saddam Hussein was "Worse Than Hitler"!

        Ahmadinejad is also "Another Hitler", according to the Zionists. And wasn't Milosevic said to be "Another Hitler" TOO?

        It seems like all of the countries that the U.S.I. wants to dismember are headed by Hitlers! What a coincidence!

        .

        http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11069
        +(
        Back to the Future
        For the War Party, it's always 1940
        Justin Raimondo / 04 Jun 2007
        ....
        To listen to the public spokesmen of the War Party, one would think that the 9/11 attacks tore a hole in the space-time continuum and landed us in an alternate universe, a world where World War II never ended -- where Winston Churchill, Neville Chamberlain, and, most of all, Adolf Hitler, seem not to have died -- where the atmosphere of crisis, of intellectual conformity, and of outright panic that suffuses the air in wartime has been lovingly recreated, like a remake of an old war movie.

        There is a reason why they constantly evoke the imagery of that global catastrophe -- hailing the alleged heroism of Churchill, deriding the supposed cowardice of Chamberlain, and promoting the weird cult of Franklin Delano Roosevelt among ostensible conservatives. If you want to start a world war, it seems wise to recall and refit the tactics and maneuvers that led to the last one. And the parallels are striking: once again, a coalition of foreign lobbyists and domestic interests have coalesced around a program of world war. Once again a president has openly signed on to their agenda and is implementing it without regard to either the domestic consequences or the true nature of American interests abroad.

        It is a replay of history that, for all its variations and idiosyncrasies, extends to the domestic political scene, where a movement that spans Left and Right has arisen to oppose the policy of perpetual war and the ruthless abrogation of civil liberties. On the Left, all the best instincts of a liberalism that we once thought was lost are being revived: once again we are seeing the skepticism of government and hatred of war that caused Randolph Bourne to declare, in the title of his famous essay, "War Is the Health of the State." This brand of liberal thought was nearly extinguished by the modernizing, managerial statism of the New Deal, which almost made us forget that the Democrats are, after all, the party of Jefferson. This is not to say that the antiwar "netroots" are self-conscious Jeffersonian Democrats -- but they are getting there. In the face of the systematic assault of Bush and his party on the very foundations of our old republic, rank-and-file Democrats and liberals of every description are rapidly recovering their long-lost, anti-authoritarian, antiwar heritage.

        Another sort of heritage -- albeit one that is not unrelated -- is being rediscovered on the Right. Since the first Gulf War we have seen the rise of what has come to be called the "Old Right," that is, the pre-World War II conservative ethos of such forgotten figures as Garet Garrett, John T. Flynn, Rose Wilder Lane, Robert A. Taft, and the America First movement. This was a coalition of conservative Midwestern businessmen, libertarians, and old-style liberals who rose in opposition to Roosevelt's drive to war and the more authoritarian aspects of the New Deal.

        The America First Committee, founded in the heyday of the Old Right's influence, was, up until the Vietnam War era, the biggest antiwar movement in American history. Culturally, it was a very different sort of antiwar movement from the sort we have today, in that it was driven by conservatives, proto-libertarians, Midwestern progressives such as Sen. Burton K. Wheeler, and liberals of the old school such as John T. Flynn. These people were all united in the fear that we would fight national socialism overseas only to wake up one morning to find ourselves saddled with an "American" version of the same super-centralizing, warmongering, authoritarian regime.
        ....

        )+
        • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1We get it, you hate Jews and you love Muslims. Go away.
          • NonZionist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4We get it, you hate equal rights and love fascism.

            Please stay. As an American devoted to freedom, equality, and the primacy of the individual, I enjoy beating up statists and tribal supremacists like you.
    • Derrekito, on 10/11/2007, -12/+21hmmm, take this scenario. Lets say, just prior to the presidential elections, there is a massive "terrorist" crisis, one just as big if not larger than 9/11. What if Bush rules martial law, suspending the elections "temporarily" with national security in mind? What then?
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -10/+21How so? Iraq was a preemptive war. Bush has also passed numerous executive orders that on his whim can turn the US into a full-fledged fascist state replete with the secret police.


      • gernblansted, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15I think it interesting, kageki, that you got dug down for this.

        Your statements are true, so people digging you down must mean they don't like what they see.

        Can you say Blackwater USA? Over 200 thousand trained paramilitary units, taking over security operations like they did during Katrina? They are armed with fully automatic weapons, and just "light mortars". They even fired on news helicopters that got too close.
    • Sirckus, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19It ain't as far away as people would like you to believe... it's already possible by law...

      http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html
      Establishing of "National Continuity Director" ...
      (1) This directive establishes a comprehensive national policy on the continuity of Federal Government structures and operations and a single National Continuity Coordinator responsible for coordinating the development and implementation of Federal continuity policies. This policy establishes "National Essential Functions," prescribes continuity requirements for all executive departments and agencies, and provides guidance for State, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector organizations in order to ensure a comprehensive and integrated national continuity program that will enhance the credibility of our national security posture and enable a more rapid and effective response to and recovery from a national emergency.
      • Richthofen80, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Sirckus, the Continuity Directory co-ordinates the contingency planning in the event of a national catastrophe. He guides the policy in the unlikely event of a major terror/nuclear/biological attack and has nothing to do with suspending elections. He merely makes sure that if the Senate is holed up in a bunker and cannot approve a military strike, that the proper chain of command is preserved by other means, and that the available branches/authorities can act. In the event of a conventional war, presidencies change hands and the Continuity director has no role. (WW2 and Vietnam, for example)
        • Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You do realize that this is your interpretation of the position. Bush has been called to task numerous times on Digg and other non-mainstream media sites because his "interpretation" tends to be quite a bit less congenial than the standard reading. He exempts himself from laws specificially written to limit the power of the executive branch and writes signing statements exempting himself and his office from any attempt to hinder his power. What makes you think that he won't come up with an equally creative interpretation of this post to suit his purposes?
        • Sirckus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I wish it were that rosy. But your interpretation does not mention eliminating "non-essential functions" of the government. Or the Continuity Director being able to assume authority at all level of the government (even Tribal) regardless of the location of the catastrophe.
        • Sirckus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Would just like to add, to read the actual language in the Act... read how is describes catastophic emergency. And notice that nowhere in there does it state that this is in any way able to be checked or balanced by the other branches.
    • kinerry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10He can declare martial law and put into office anyone he likes...including himself
    • DinoJKT, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7A lot of foreigners allready do. Just saw a poll in Europe where the majority of the asked judged the US as being the greater thread to security.
    • mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7This is Digg, facts and common sense have no place here. As long as you are bashing Bush or fear mongering about the "coming new world order" its ok to make ***** up.
  • johnnynapalm, on 10/11/2007, -57/+81This is a very poorly written article...just look at his gross misuse of the word "incumbent" at the end. THESE kinds of articles are just as much propaganda as anything Bush churns out.
    • Sirckus, on 10/11/2007, -6/+32"And it is incumbent upon all Americans, Red and Blue, Republican and Democrat, to stop them."
      From the American Heritage dictionary...
      in·cum·bent - adjective -
      1. Imposed as an obligation or duty; obligatory: felt it was incumbent on us all to help.
      2. Lying, leaning, or resting on something else: incumbent rock strata.
      3. Currently holding a specified office: the incumbent mayor.

      He used it correctly. Now next time maybe you won't grossly accuse someone of inaccuracy before checking your facts!
  • godzillaWax, on 10/11/2007, -73/+12While the old man is on his way out of the country, perhaps he can give back the freedom the US gave him in the 40s?
    At least the old man is senile, what the ***** is the bloggers excuse for being a douchebag?
    • dkreifus, on 10/11/2007, -5/+20The US gave him in the 40s? Are you retarded? What about in the 30s when the US didn't do anything to stop this man's family from being exterminated? The blogger is worried about how the government has become a corrupt organization, which just caters to the president, and can't stop him, becuase theres not enough people who will stand up to him
    • macweirdo42, on 10/11/2007, -5/+25Do we have any left? Can't criticize the government, can't question, religion's great so long as you're Christian, a right to a fair trial is a threat to national security, you can have privacy so long as you don't talk on the phone or check out books at the library, anyone who disagrees is un-American, things like warrants and evidence are right out of the question if you're a suspected terrorist, etc.

      Look at it this way - what if you say something that pisses someone off, and they cart you away on the grounds that you're a terrorist? What defense will you have? Absolutely none - they'll ship you off to Gitmo and that's the last anyone will ever hear from you. You won't get a trial, they won't have to prove your guilt, just BAM, suddenly you're an unperson. Freedom-loving Americans don't have a chance against this Gestapo crap. We lost, man, we lost big time. I'm sure the old man would love to give back some of the freedom he got (and we could sure as hell use it right about now), but he ain't got any left to give.
    • arcangelgabriel, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11You sir, [godzillawax] are an imbecilic *****-tard with zero sense of 20th century history.

      Shut up and go ply Wii
      • dorkino, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Dugg down for smug abuse of "You sir,"
  • AZSanMan, on 10/11/2007, -22/+11Though I believe the concept that he was trying to describe, I want proof that this event ever took place.
    Here is a link to a blog that hits on the point, "Is this guy just a liar"?
    http://www.quickrob.com/weblog/?cat=77
    • Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Does it matter if it ever took place?
      Does -one- Holocaust victim's opinion matter in either direction whether Bush is hero or villain? If he is to be villain, it should be america as a whole that condemns him, not one man. If he is a hero, the same.
  • Dulahey, on 10/11/2007, -37/+3lol man some people are just pathetic.
  • thscientist1, on 10/11/2007, -16/+4the thing that puzzles me, is how bush has come to this, hes not that brilliant. in fact he doesnt look smart at all. i mean seriously look at Jeb...
    thats the only thing saving us. and its scary to think of this when there have been rumors floating around of a secret government run by Cheyney
    • tavio, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0"and its scary to think of this when there have been rumors floating around of a secret government run by Cheyney"
      YOUR AN ASS
  • Bogie22, on 10/11/2007, -48/+12This is retarded. The only similarity between the US and Nazi Germany is the psycho atheists that have their final solution for Christians and Jews.
    • lougoose, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3WTF are you talking about? You think the atheists are gonna take over?! You need to look at how Bush is running this administration. He said the jury was still out about Evolution! What jury, where?

      He is the one who has said radical religious governments are evil, and look at him! He doesn't believe that Evolution is true! HOLY *****!

      He uses God in his speeches so many times its like a ***** joke. THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, something that Bush is simply trying to get rid of without anyone noticing.
      • DFENS, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Dude, tell me it wouldn't be funny to beat a child-molesting priest to death with a crucifix. That's comedy gold!
    • quasipalm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Hitler was a Protestant Christian, dumbass, not an Atheist. He regularly used anti-Jewish sentiment (caused by they then common belief that Jews caused the death of Christ) to justify the holocaust.

      If you want to beat up on Atheists, there is plenty of source material; Hitler isn't one of 'em.
  • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -28/+11Why is he leaving, aren't the Zionists behind Bush and the whole NWO? This really doesn't help your conspiracy theories much, a Jew leaving a country secretly run by Jews? I guess you could claim they made up the holocaust too, but then this story would have no relevance and this guy would just be a liar... either way you tin foilers lose.
    • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10Because he knows it is wrong whichever side, whoever does it perhaps. Its not about which country or which race or for what reasons. It is that it happens and it is wrong
      • RhymesWithSauce, on 10/11/2007, -12/+0Shouldn't you be outside on your prayer mat?
        • Waiting2awake, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Don't you have a little brother to molest? People like you are the problem jackass. You racist peice of *****.

    • williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Zionist != Jew

      Lots of Israelis with hard-line attitudes toward Arabs are recent immigrants from Russia that are barely if at all Jewish. Israel and zionism are not like the original zionism. A lot of it is just a Russian mafia wanting a new base of operations.
    • Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -4/+9So everyone who thinks Bush is a criminal is an Anti-semite?
      How many people did you get to help you put up that 30' tall straw-man?

      How the ***** do you morons combine the whole of what you disagree with and call them tin-foil-hat conspiracy nuts.
      Do you think the CIA tried to assassinate Castro?
      Think on it, cuz they admitted it. And before then, everyone who thought that was a tinfoiler.
  • 89vision, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5Somehow I doubt the credibility of the article, it is pretty interesting to think about though.
    • frogpelt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1One common thread (among all who think that the Bush administration is bordering on tyrannical) is the claim that news media is afraid to question his actions. You have got to be kidding me. I hear nothing but negativity about Bush and his administration from everyone except Fox News.

      Comparing Jews to Muslims is asinine. Hitler wasn't killing extremist Jews he was killing regular Jews who just wanted to be left alone.

      6 MILLION OF THEM!!!!!!

      We, on the other hand, aren't fighting regular Muslim we're fighting Muslim extremists who would destroy our country and the rest of the world if given the chance.

      Communist liberal propaganda. I could only hope that everyone who thinks this way would leave our soil. Maybe we could get closer to the principles this country was founded on.
  • legendxx, on 10/11/2007, -22/+12And at what point were jews suicide bombing the nazis?
    • Novagenesis, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9At what point does one of the largest religions in the world have to take the blame for EVERY one of its extremists?
      Are you Christian? If so, then get out of the US. SOME Christians occasionally kill people for their religion, too. I don't want that ***** around here. You ever read about the guy who walked into a gay bar with a shotgun? Or the abortion-clinic drive-bys?
      • Blindx0r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Don't forget the Crusades (way back in the day). Christians killing Muslims.
    • legendxx, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2are you serious? those people kill other christians because they believe they are killing innocent children... muslims kill themselves, eachother, and everyone else because they disagree on mohammad's middle name.
      • aukxsona, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2So it's ok to kill...where does it say that in the Bible exactly...I must have missed that in Sunday School.
      • legendxx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Nowhere did I say it was ok to kill.. it just seems a little more unreasonable to kill over irrelevant details than killing to save children's lives.
    • frogpelt, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1They never were and that is an excellent point.

      This comparison is like comparing apples and motorcycles.
  • stronglikedan, on 10/11/2007, -35/+5This guy is a pussy. If he's so concerned about atrocities being committed and no one saying anything, then why doesn't HE say something instead of just running away like a pussy.
    • kageki, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Uh its not just him. MANY people are saying and support his ideas. Its just that people like you and the media choose not to believe it.
  • mogus, on 10/11/2007, -31/+128I'm sorry, but am I the only one who found this story a little hard to believe? Maybe it's just cynicism, but it seems to be in line with that story on Digg awhile ago about how some 12yr old shooting champion girl had shot some guys trying to break into her home with her dad's shotgun, which turned out to be a total farce. "George W. Bush and his NeoCons?". I have news for our aged Nazi-fearing friend: GW will be out after next year, and it will be up to the people what to do with the neocons. If you were to hope for change, this is about the best time you could hope for: the last two elections have been very close, and according to numerous polls (although I believe of dubious impartiality) GW's approval (and by connection the neocons) rating is at an all time low, and has been for a long time. I can see if we all had GW-'08 armbands marching in the streets with the vast majority clamoring for more blood of Muslims WITHIN THE USA then I'd say it was time to go back across the pond. Sorry it doesn't add up, and I'm not impressed.
    • nihility, on 10/11/2007, -5/+8It was up to the people in 2000, and in the end they really didn't get what they wanted.
    • byronm, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10Didn't want Bush in 2000, didn't want Bush in 2004 and still don't want Bush.
    • rupaw, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Bush is not the problem. Bush is just one individual. American's society as a whole is deeply troubled. It's the society that allowed the Iraq war, it's the society that allowed Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo and the secret prisons in Eastern Europe happen without much protest. It's the society that allows the elimination of Habeas Corpus in the US. And it's not just the war in Iraq. It's how the US treats minor aged criminals. How blacks are treated by the justice system. This all is well documented and the society approves such practice, or just doesn't care.

      Bush will leave. The society will stay. There is much more to come in the United States. Wait until the times get tough in America. Wait of what's happing if oil becomes scarce or the economy slows down significantly. You ain't seen nothing yet.

      Leaving America doesn't seem to be the dumbest idea for those who have a choice.
      • Gaki, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5This is about the sagest advice I've heard all day. The US dollar is in a free fall compared to other world currencies and has been for a while. The CAD, for example, is on the verge of topping the USD for the first time in over 30 years and not because the Canadian economy is performed better. We just suck less and hold less overall debt.

        When things get tight, people get mean and start to protect their own. If you think that the anti-Muslim rhetoric is strong, now, wait until the economy gets a bit worse. Heck, paying off this ill-founded war might be just the financial burden to push the US society over the top. I, for one, hope that there is a level-headed leader there at the time the break comes because if some jackass like Bush is in power, he'll just point to the scapegoat of the day ... just like Hitler did in the late 1930s.
    • Iandefor, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3"GW will be out after next year, and it will be up to the people what to do with the neocons."

      Just like it was our decision in 2004?
      • mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3No, it wasent. Learn how the election system works. Diggtards like to pound on the ideas of the founding fathers so much, well the system we use to elect presidents was also something they came up with, and they did it for a reason.

        Bush won, accept that you dont always get what you want.
    • apothekari, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Hey ,
      Just so you know monsters don't announce their intent to eat you dumbass.
      They stand beside you gain your trust and gobble you up before you know what happened.
      Always remember that Ted Bundy worked for2 years as a suicide hot line counselor and that quite possibly someone out there owes their life to him.
  • ae357em, on 10/11/2007, -8/+23History Repeats itself.

    "In a society where law upholds exploitation and order supports injustice and fascism, we must by necessity break the chains that confine us and others to slavery and injustice. If we be called terrorists because we seek this, then let history judge us. But let us not support slavery, let us die in furtherance of freedom, let us break the chains that bind!!"
    • mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2"History Repeats itself."

      Yes, another nonsense factless fearmongering "Bush is the new Hitler" story hits the digg homepage yet again. Using my great power of seeing into the future, I predict many more ***** stories about the same topic, all without any basis in fact.
  • tsoldrin, on 10/11/2007, -19/+42It doesn't matter if this tale is made up or real... the warning is a good one and people should open their eyes to what's going on around us. Think for a moment... when have we ever gotten freedoms or gotten freedoms back which have been taken away... without fighting for them?

    • Alpione, on 10/11/2007, -13/+6Strange... I haven't lost a single freedom