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- Ruckgesicht, on 10/12/2007, -2/+62That would be great if it weren't for, you know, all the ancient religions (Greek, Roman, Norse, Egyptian) and many others (Sikhism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shintoism, the Bahá'í Faith) being left entirely out of the picture.
- scottcbp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+52It might be cooler if it had a running death toll...
- deflective, on 10/12/2007, -13/+40interesting how muslim expansion was by "conquest" and christian by "missions abroad"
- treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27It's down, duggmirror didn't catch it in time. This works: http://www.mapsofwar.com.nyud.net:8080/ind/history-of-religion.html
- Hydraulix, on 10/12/2007, -21/+44Here's a site that explains it in two seconds.
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/ - Koray, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@democracysucks: Except for when the Spaniards started colonizing South America and imposed (quite often _by force_) Christianity upon the locals, purging them of their culture, religion, and tradition?
- Jibberwalk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+29Muslim "Conquest" is comparable to the military campaigns labeled as Christian "Crusades." Both are military in nature.
Christian "Missions Abroad" were not military operations, but instead campaigns by... missionaries. You know, monks, priests, nuns. Not exactly the most violent of all God's creatures. - Settra, on 10/12/2007, -12/+32The USSR fell ages ago, dick.
It's called RUSSIA now, and the rest of the countries have their own names.
Maybe it's marked as christian because it IS christian?
Dick. - fearlessfrog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20What, no Flying Spaghetti Monster!!??
He touched me with His Noodly Appendages! Pastafarianism won't take this lying down... - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24"fewer wars, less disputes, less conflict is a bad thing? God is the problem."
People are the problem not God. - tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18no scientology? i didnt see the birth of Hubbard on there. what gives?
*snicker* - seanherman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Cool, but obviously an oversimplification. They didn't mark divisive partitions within Christianity (or the other religions for that matter), like the eastern roman empire/orthodox Christianity, protestant reformation etc. I also wish different colors could occupy the same territory, with a striped pattern or something similar, to show significant populations of different religions This marking would display that religions aren't constantly at odds and killing each other but more often than not getting along.
Interesting nonetheless, as long as one understands the limitations of such a simple model. - BrownBag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Hollywood is pretty small on the map to see.
- Somniis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21@capiCrimm
Give it time. People will see, eventually, that God is just like Zeus. Believed now but thought of as a myth thousands of years later. - ROFLance, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20@ruckgeseicht: too bad half of those are philosophies, and not religions.
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15smallpox covered blankets kinda speed things along too i guess.
- ROFLance, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19settra, stop whining, it was USSR when christianity first started taking over that area, but yeah, russia's mainstream religion is mostly russian orthodox christianity.
- Jibberwalk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12It's a wonder what missionaries can do when you show natives superior technology that trumps what their "pagan" gods have supplied them. Like boats with sails. And steel.
Also with some luck... like how Cortes arrived in Mexico the same year as the Aztec calender predicted Quetzacoatl would return... Quetzacoatl being a pale-skinned god.
Edit: Jacob Miller got there first. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13yup, no mention of other religions.. and just so u know, the number of Sikhs is far greater than Jews. (23 million vs 14 million)
- jacobmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yes, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquistador
- WolfwoodX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12It would haven been better if it was 30 seconds and used bunnies.
- jammerb, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18"People are the problem not God."
You're absolutely right - people inventing god is the problem - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"it was USSR when christianity first started taking over that area,"
That must be the most idiotic statement I've read in some time. And the irony ... - everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8LOL @ the jews.
seriously though, what was with the christianity boom? ***** exploded! was it the spanish taking over the americas or something? - drmonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7everlasting life? i'll take 3!
- Somniis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6A reward for everlasting life for merely acting good spreads quickly. There are many many more religions that this has left out.
- mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Some countries in central Africa we marked as Christian, while there is significant comparable population of Muslims
- WomunOfColour, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"The "missions abroad" took over non-religious territory."
Hell, no. You think the aboriginals of the Americas lacked religion? It was forced conversion. Read your history. - NiroZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Interesting, but its not terribly accurate.
For one, it doesn't show places where religion's mixed, like in India, and leaves out quite a few religion's.
However, it is very good for what it was aiming for(a brief overview). - jacobmiller, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Funny you should say that. Richard Dawkins has referred to faith as a virus (see "The Virus of Faith" - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5752208690443739173 )
Dawkins of course was the guy who coined the term "meme" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme ) -
"The term "meme" refers to a unit of cultural information transferable from one mind to another. A meme propagates itself as a unit of cultural evolution and diffusion — analogous in many ways to the behavior of the gene (the unit of genetic information). Often memes propagate as more-or-less integrated cooperative sets or groups, referred to as memeplexes or meme-complexes." .... very much like a religion... - chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9@kevingc
Correction: Non-abrahamic religion(meaning Islam, Chrsitanity, Islam and thier offshoots were not present). You're naive if you thought people in these areas didn't subscribe to one form of indigenous religion or another, and to a lesser degree, Dharmic(buddhism, hinduism and related beliefs/philosophies) religions were present. - thirdman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Its quite a bit out, especially the bit about Christianity in Russia
- argh44z, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Indeed...there were things arbitary. For example, in India, when it was under the rule of a Muslim sultanate, the map marked the majority of the lands as Muslim, even though most of the inhabitants were still Hindu.. When the British Raj took over, it didn't apply the same principle and mark the lands as Christian.
- BabyWookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"it was USSR when christianity first started taking over that area"
Funny, I wasn't aware that the USSR existed in the 900s. - AlphAssassin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If they have Buddhism, they should add Confucianism and Taoism
- democracysucks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No, I'm not talking about the schism.
I'm talking about the fourth crusade (1200-1204) when the East asked the West for help against the Turks (again, the church was under attack, rather than it attacking others), and the Venetians convinced the West to attack and plunder the East. - capiCrimm, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14People don't like to consider the Roman, Greek, etc. stuff. I mean no one really doubts that's made up, but heh, everyone knows these other religions just couldn't be made up, right?
- kevin.gc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9If you look closely, the "conquests" occurred where there was already another religion established. The "missions abroad" took over non-religious territory.
- Ruckgesicht, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@ capiCrimm:
Simply because you do not adhere to any of those faiths does not mean they are not faiths that were followed seriously and deligently in the past and onwards into the future. The animation included Buddhism, which among all of these holds the strongest case for being called a philosophy and not a religion; yet it is included, so it is only fair that these others I mention be included as well. Yet they are not. - mjoshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well take it for what it is, site is just depiction of how different religions spread across world. There is no point in arguing over who did more ***** trying to spread their religion (afterall every religion has its own limitations).
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@Jibberwalk
If you think that these missions were peaceful then you are incredibly mistaken. Christian maybe?
"On the one hand, the Roman Catholic Church along with the main Protestant denominations in Europe did not oppose the slave trade. In some cases, Christian leaders actually argued that the Bible supported slavery and the slave trade. But even in the case of Churches that did not openly support the slave trade, by not providing a conscience against slavery and the slave trade, the Christian churches indirectly gave their blessing to the slave trade. Moreover, some churches benefited from the slave trade through financial contributions made by Christian traders whom had become wealthy as a result of their involvement in the trade."
http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/students/curriculum/m14/activity4.php
.. educate yourself - chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@everfalling
Pretty much. - Paroparo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I was rather skeptical about this since it was bound to be a bit arbitrary and inaccurate (one religion in one place at one time etc), but I was positively surprise. Stuff like counting every inch of the Americas as Christian or just labeling the entire East/South-East Asia as Buddhist is a bit weird, but necessary I suppose.
- JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Yes, it's the Santa Claus fantasy. Be good and do as you're told and you'll get a big reward.
- djKianoosh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"If religion proves to be the source of hatred, enmity and contention, if it becomes the cause of warfare and strife and influences men to kill each other, its absence is preferable"
"If a religion become the cause of hatred and disharmony, it would be better that it should not exist. To be without such a religion is better than to be with it"
"If religion becomes a cause of dislike, hatred and division, it were better to be without it, and to withdraw from such a religion would be a truly religious act"
all quotations from 'Abdu'l-Bahá (1844-1921)
just thought these were interesting given the context of the discussion... - SassquatchG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The fast motion replay was strangely similar to a scene from the movie "War Games".
- metamorfoza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3but again, they're (Chechnya) not independet state.
- chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Uh, the Philippines(and the rest of Archipelagic Southeas Asia for that matter) was Buddhist???? I thought it was Hinduism at first then Islam then Christianity(Islam stuck in the rest of Maritime SEA).
- zackr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@democracysucks
Christianity has often tried to be spread by force by foolish people such as Constantine, the Catholics, etc. Anybody who is a Christian knows that such converts are just nominal in nature. Not good for anybody. - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I think they may have been earlier and less violent so left out, its a map of religious wars mostly rather than religions"
Hmm, so who did the Buddhist have a war with? It is not about religious war, it's about the spread of the five religions. -
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