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Hezbollah lied - BOTH Israeli soldiers returned in coffins
canada.com — In exchange for the release of a murderer who killed a 4-year old girl by bashing in her skull, Hezbollah returned two soldiers to Israel today. They had claimed at least one was alive, but now it is clear that both were murdered immediately after their abduction. Hezbollah and the Lebanese plan a great celebration.
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- jabberwolf, on 07/16/2008, -1/+20"In the Gaza Strip, controlled by the violently anti-Israel Hamas group, people celebrated in the streets and handed out sweets in support of Hezbollah. " in other news.
This does not happen in Israel, but liberals seem to think that dealing with Palestinians is an easy job.
Lest they forget they also celebrated in the streets after 9/11 !!! - fadeout, on 07/16/2008, -1/+19The guy whose death they're celebrating bashed in the head of a child. Lebanon is having a day of honor for a child murderer.
Think about that the next time you hear propaganda about them being "freedom fighters."- OCPaddler, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately, it's not his death they're celebrating, it's his release.
- BillE3, on 07/16/2008, -1/+16Is it any surprise at all they lied? Is it any surprise they are celebrating the murder of a child and her killer?
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 07/16/2008, -1/+14...and then the scorpion said, "I cannot help myself. It is my nature. I'm a scorpion."
- spongya77, on 07/16/2008, -16/+2Just to read a less biased report on the deal:
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSL165 ...- franklymister, on 07/16/2008, -0/+13Do you have any humanity at all? You are so emotionally invested in your need for Jews to be evil, that even in the face of these mothers' grief, you look for "less biased" reports that support your own worldview.
Lebanon began the war by abducting and murdering these two men, then went on to play with the emotions of their families by coyly refusing to disclose their fates for two years, even trying to suggest that one might be alive, but not saying which.
In the report you link to, the Arabs talk about the "great Arab mujahid (holy warrior) ... Samir Qantar" - remember, this is the monster who chose to murder a 4-year old girl solely because she was a Jew.
The bodies that Israel returned were all of soldiers who were killed while attacking Israel, and they had never tried to hide their fates from the families as Hezbollah had.
I suppose you think the idea that Lebanon is celebrating the release of a sadistic, cowardly murderer is just ducky?
Really, have some compassion for your fellow humans, and just for once, stop wishing for the perpetuation of violence by seeking out any justification you can for every terrorist act that occurs.- spongya77, on 07/16/2008, -9/+1That's funny. I link a Reuters article, and you accuse me of antisemitism. Well, I do not accuse of anything. I flat out tell you you are a turd-brained insect. Now, that we both insulted each other, let's start.
No, I have plenty of humanity. That's why I don't like the likes of you. Lebanon DID NOT abduct these people. (I believe the military term is "capture", by the way.) A militant organization operating in Lebanon (and destabilizing the country) did. A militant organization, I might add, that came into being following the brutal invasion of the IDF in '82. And upon the capture of two soldiers the IDF bombed the country into the stone age. I'm hoping your bleeding heart and humanity does not forget about the 1600-2000 or more civilian deaths. About those people who will be killed or maimed by the 3 million cluster bomblets dispersed in the southern part of the country days before the cease fire. (Or maybe your heart only bleeds for the Israelis? How does that make you NOT a racist?)
About the report itself: Lebanese people will not celebrate. Hezbollah fighters do. There's a distinction.
And, I might add, had Israel opted for negotiations, instead of bombing the daylight out of a poor country with no military, those two souls would be alive today. There's a lesson for you in this, but I'm sure you can't see it.
For the likes of you, who can only see things in a binary manner, it's hard to comprehend, but in this conflict there are no "good guys" and "bad guys". By these inflammatory rhetoric you and your kind from both sides only fuel the fire, and make it less likely for the two sides to actually sit down and talk. (Imagine what would happen to an Israeli government if they actually seriously made efforts to negotiate the refugee problem, East Jerusalem, and the '67 borders... The problem is, that on the other side there's no one left to negotiate with; the last 40 years of policies made sure of it. There's no intact Palestinian leadership remained, and if we're talking about Lebanon already, the country is plunged into chaos, thanks to Israel.) - foopirata, on 07/16/2008, -1/+8"(I believe the military term is "capture", by the way.) A militant organization operating in Lebanon (and destabilizing the country) did. A militant organization, I might add, that came into being following the brutal invasion of the IDF in '82."
The military term is "kidnapping", since the two soldiers were patrolling inside Israeli territory, uncontested.
Oh, and a "brutal invasion", I might add, brought upon Lebanon by the insistence of the PLO to use southern Lebanon as a launchpad of attacks into Israel. You seem to suffer from selective memory.
"About the report itself: Lebanese people will not celebrate. Hezbollah fighters do. There's a distinction." - bull: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id ...
"Berri, Jumblatt urge Lebanese to welcome prisoners home
Leaders call for massive participation in swap celebrations[...]Meanwhile, a number of syndicates and unions also called for massive participation in the celebrations of the return of the Lebanese prisoners."
"And, I might add, had Israel opted for negotiations, instead of bombing the daylight out of a poor country with no military, those two souls would be alive today." - so what you're saying is:
1. they were kidnapped alive and Hizzb"Allah let them die in their hands
2. you have an inside channel in the minds of Iran and Nassrallah
Both of them not very nice options, I must add. And I'll give you yet another view of the problem, one that Nasrallah himself admitted to in his TV station: had Hizzb"Allah not gone INTO Israel, with the express objective of killing and kidnapping Israeli soldiers, the Second Lebanon War would never had happened. How's that?
"By these inflammatory rhetoric you and your kind from both sides only fuel the fire, and make it less likely for the two sides to actually sit down and talk." - projecting, much?
"and if we're talking about Lebanon already, the country is plunged into chaos, thanks to Israel." - riiiiiiight....forget Syria, uh? Forget Iran. Forget the civil war since '75. It's all because of big bad Israel. God forbid an Arab state has to actually take responsibility for what ills befall it.
You seriously need to expand your knowledge of the issues if you want to keep on talking about them.
- spongya77, on 07/16/2008, -9/+1That's funny. I link a Reuters article, and you accuse me of antisemitism. Well, I do not accuse of anything. I flat out tell you you are a turd-brained insect. Now, that we both insulted each other, let's start.
- twinklyJesus, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4"Just to read a more anti-semitic report on the deal:"
There, fixed it for you!
- franklymister, on 07/16/2008, -0/+13Do you have any humanity at all? You are so emotionally invested in your need for Jews to be evil, that even in the face of these mothers' grief, you look for "less biased" reports that support your own worldview.
- talula76, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4If you want to read more about Samir "National Hero" Kuntar, especially how he killed a 4-year old child (crushing her skull with the butt of his rifle, after killing her father in front of her eyes), look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Kuntar
And the state of Lebanon is giving this man a hero's welcome. - Seldon2639, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1I'm forced to shake my head at this only because we see stories about once a week about how "evil", "militaristic", "oppressive", and "violent" Israel is. It helps to keep some perspective about the conflict, since we in America (or even Europe) can't really comprehend the fear that the people of Israel are forced to live under. Neither side has acted perfectly, but Israel does not celebrate people who murder civilians.
We (western society, including Israel) measure the success of a mission by two parameters first: was it successful, and second: how *few* civilians did we harm in the process. Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations measure it by how *many* civilians they kill.
This is just another example of how despite all of the rhetoric on Digg about how terrible Israel is in its treatment of the Palestinians, that it’s still trying harder to follow the rules of military conflict than their enemies. Israel just wants to exist, and all military action taken in the past 50 years have been nothing more than responses to attacks on their soil. America got bombed at Pearl Harbor and got into World War II, an American warship was fired upon in the Tonkin Gulf, and then invaded Vietnam. Imagine, if you will, a situation where America is being attacked routinely by terrorists from Mexico. Would you really expect America to simply sit blithely by while that happens?
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