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Hezbollah Commander Imad Mughniyeh Killed in Syrian Car Bomb
foxnews.com — BEIRUT, Lebanon — Imad Mughniyeh, one of America's most wanted, has been killed by Israeli agents, Hezbollah announced in a statement Wednesday. Mughniyeh, who has been in hiding for years, was among the fugitives indicted in the United States for the 1985 hijacking of a TWA airliner in which a U.S. Navy diver was killed.
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- israelonblog, on 02/13/2008, -27/+68One of the biggest murders in the world. Nasrallah, you better watch your back.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -43/+18Do you have numbers to back that up?
In the recent Israeli-Lebanon war of summer 2006, Israel killed over 800 Lebanese civilians, while Hezbollah is responsible for around 50 Israeli civilians. Hezbollah (i.e. Nasrallah) may be a big murder in the world, but Israel seems to be ahead of him in terms of body count.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_c ...- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -12/+40and to think if lebanon didnt fire rockets into israel it could have been avoided.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -24/+7You seem to be quickly changing the topic instead of answering a very important question. I understand why you do it though, its because you can't answer my question.
- jayleb, on 02/13/2008, -24/+13Im not pro Hizballah in any way, but if you think they fired rockets into Israel first, PLEASE read the news more closely next time a war breaks out, mmmkaay? :)
Oh, and by news I don't mean FOX news...- Wargalas, on 02/13/2008, -4/+23Ok, you want to talk about "firsts"? Ok, how about their assault on an Israeli military outpost and subsequent kidnapping and murder of Israeli soldiers? Or did you conveniently forget that?
- amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -5/+19The war started because Hezbollah violated Israeli borders and took prisoners. Do you expect Israel to give its citizen soldiers away to be tortured by muslim fanatics? They should have annexed south Lebannon up to the Litani River long ago.
- Aharoni, on 02/13/2008, -4/+19Actually, they did fire rockets into Israel first. During their kidnapping of Israeli patrol (which happened on Israeli soil, unprovoked) they fired mortar shells and missiles on IDF outposts to prevent any rescue attempts from happening and create confusion.
How about you start watching news that doesn't include CNN (which are just as biased as FOX news, only to the other side) or Al-Manar. mmmmkaaay? - amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -5/+16Oh yah. Better Fox News than Al-Jazeera.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -4/+17"but if you think they fired rockets into Israel first, PLEASE read the news more closely next time a war breaks out, mmmkaay? :)" - just because the media in other countries don't consider rockets falling on Israel news, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen...
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/pub/messages/6699.ht ... - thotpoizn, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5*** ( Marks another "1" on the scoreboard in the "Mossad" column, then sits back and lights a nice cigar... ) ***
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -19/+7What rockets? the rocket launching started after Israel was bombing bridges in Lebanon.
No reason to defend Hezbollah, but at that time they made an operation against the Israeli army inside an occupied land, and Israel reacted by attacking civilian regions in Lebanon- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -5/+22Hizbullah murdered 20 people, wounded dozens and kidnapped four in the 3.5 years BEFORE Israel decided to retaliate. Please show me a nation that suffered 20 deaths by attacks from another country and didn't retaliate.
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -6/+32Israel was protecting their boys. Remember, not ONE, repeat, ONE single Israeli POW has ever returned home alive by terrorist groups. The Hezbollah, Syrians, and Hamas always butcher and torture them. Israel will literally trade 100 living terrorist scum just to get back the body of 1 IDF soldier because unlike their enemies they respect life.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -5/+9solid12345 is wrong about POWs. Many were returned alive:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Societ ...
But truth and facts don't matter when discussing the Middle East to many people.
And like my other comments in this thread, I expect this to be downmodded severely for not aligning with the prevailing beliefs of the mob here. It is quite funny. - EditorResponse, on 02/13/2008, -5/+9Your religious book the Koran tells of a man named Muhammad who was a pedophile with a 9 year old wife.
You are a Muslim.
You will wear a suicide vest into a sea of innocent people and detonate it.
You are a Muslim.
You will take control of more than three commercial airliners and fly them into the ground and into buildings in New York City, United States of America on September 11, 2001 to kill more than 3,000 innocent people.
You are a Muslim.
You will drive a boat laden with explosives into your U.S. military ships like the U.S.S. Cole.
You are a Muslim.
Your group the Islamic Jihad and Hezbula supprted by the Islamic Republic of Iran detonated two truck bombs in Lebanon in 1983 killing 241 U.S. Marines. While rescue efforts were underway snipers shot and kileld several others.
You are a Muslim.
You will kidnap Israeli soldiers on the Lebenese border and start a war with Israel that will take several thousands lives and then declare madly that we won!
You are a Muslim.
You will support terrorist operations in Lebanon through Hezbolla, Palestine through Hamas and other agents and Syria to the tune of more than a billion dollars.
You are a Muslim.
You will indroctrinate all Arabic and Persain children to hate Israelis and Americans with TV shows that will be broadcast in the Kingdom of Saud, Iran and Palestine.
You are a Muslim.
You will ride a bike with a suicide bomb on it.
You are a Muslim.
You will oppress all woman and make them wear a burkha over the full length of her body indoors and outdoors.
You are a Muslim.
You will trick several women with Downs syndrome to wear a suicide vest into a sea of people in Iraq.
You are a Muslim.
In wealthy Islamic countries like the Kingdom of Saud thousands of sheiks earning $200,000 or more per month with oil revenues will have twenty wives while forty percent of all men will have none...and in their spare time will practice Wahhabism, a violent Islamic religion.
You are a Muslim.
You will steal, then drive a big truck with a suicide bomb to kill Americans in hardened bunkers.
You are a Muslim.
You will not allow women to have a say in government, or even drive a car in the kingdom of Saud and in many other Islamic fundamentalist areas.
You are a Muslim.
All of your governments will be managed by imams, ayatollahs and kings instead of a democracy.
You are a Muslim.
You will not allow a woman to talk to freely associate with any man and if she dares she will be publicly whipped and must then go to jail.
You are a Muslim.
All of your women must wear coverings down to the floor to cover their ankle to their wrists to cover their arms and cover their heads...because our men are like untrained animals.
You are a Muslim.
You will hang people for being queer.
You are a Muslim.
More than one third of all of your people live in homes with dirt floors and no running water yet it is others who are the infidel!
You are a Muslim.
You will cut off the hand that holds a stolen donut.
You are a Muslim.
You will get together with five thousand people in the street, fire off AK-47s, and chant "Death to America! Death to Israel!" but we want to emigrate to America the land of peace and prosperity....but still manage to hate America's government.
You are a Muslim.
In secret using Pakistani plans from A.Q. Khan, Iran has been working on making nuclear fuel without having a working nuclear reactor for more than half a decade. Now Iran has a new IR-2 centrifuge system that can turn out nuclear weapons grade fuel twice as fast as those from A.Q.Khan! All the while Iran has been collecting nuclear missile components for a nuclear weapon!
You are a Muslim.
You are now testing long range intercontennental balistic missiles "for a new space program" THAT DOES NOT EXIST ....i.e. for missiles with warheads that will soon be able to hit all of Europe and finally New York
You are a Muslim.
You will kill many, many, many antiSyrian ministers in Lebanon with shootings and car bombs, obtaining support from Syria and Iran's Hezbolla:
- Sept. 19, 2007: Ghanem, 64, an anti-Syrian lawmaker from the Christian Phalange Party, is killed in a blast in Beirut. Six other people also die.
- June 13, 2007: Walid Eido, 65, an anti-Syrian member of parliament, is killed along with his son, two bodyguards and six others in an explosion in Beirut.
-Nov. 21, 2006: Pierre Gemayel, 34, the industry minister and a prominent anti-Syrian Christian politician, at least three gunmen ambushed Mr Gemayel, ramming his car with their vehicle before spraying it with gunfire from point blank range in a Beirut suburb.
- Dec. 12, 2005: Gibran Tueni, an anti-Syrian newspaper editor and lawmaker, is killed when a car bomb destroys his vehicle.
- June 21, 2005: Anti-Syrian politician George Hawi, a former Communist Party leader, is killed by a bomb placed under his car.
- June 2, 2005: Anti-Syrian journalist and activist Samir Kassir is killed by a bomb planted under his car.
- Feb. 14, 2005: Former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, an anti-Syrian lawmaker, is assassinated in a bombing that also kills 20 other people. Among the dead is Bassel Fleihan, who served as economy minister in Hariri's government. The opposition blames the Syrian and Lebanese governments, charges both deny.
....you will call me Muslim
1983 Beirut barracks bombing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_ ...
The present: Pallywood: Palestinian Hollywood, Fake injuries and deaths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTX3CZqDyOA&eurl=
The future: Indoctrination of Children on Arab and Iranian TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1yN171630Q&feature ...
Muslim Sesame Street I: do the "Death to America" thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw2EisVqKZ4&feature ...
Kindergarten Graduation Ceremony in Gaza on Hamas TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2nBM2YgBb8
Indoctrination of Children on Arab and Iranian TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1yN171630Q
Saudi Arabia 2002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbHVEGnYD8
November 2004
Iranian Kids: "Death to Israel, Death to America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI-DiaBi7VE&feature ...
March 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OIUieD2KN4&feature ...
Anti-Western Incitment on Arab and Iranian TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6PI5S83o6g&feature ...
Various MEMRI TV clips on Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZFXF97QzRQ&feature ...
August, 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo&feature ...
December, 2006
Iran supports Hezbolla..."Death to America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXfIYxPGQs&feature ...
February 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUezKsBCRbk&feature ...
April 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWIFhKYiMqU&feature ...
- Zecchetti, on 02/13/2008, -17/+4Amazing how people choose to ignore the facts.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -6/+17Facts like the moslem dedication to the extermination of the state of Israel, fanatic attacks throughout the world, how gutless wimps like you and ankle-pants carter support the terrorsts? No, we don't ignore those facts.
- Bobtastic, on 02/13/2008, -1/+20Sure, I have some numbers on this particular person. However, it doesn't have his full "rap sheet," but only numbers from two instances.
From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7242383.stm ...
Israel believes he was involved in planning the 1992 bombing of Israel's embassy in Argentina in which 29 people were killed, and the blast at a Buenos Aires Jewish centre two years later that killed 95.- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -3/+8Thank you. That is a significantly more intelligent reply that slvrbullet87.
- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -12/+40and to think if lebanon didnt fire rockets into israel it could have been avoided.
- Zecchetti, on 02/13/2008, -38/+11"One of the biggest murders in the world". You mean Ariel Sharon?
- CoolWind, on 02/13/2008, -19/+6he's right up there with Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon
- Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -5/+12And they all still pale in comparison to the lasting damage Jimmy Carter did.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -8/+23So you liked this guy Mughniyeh? You agreed with his tactics of hijacking airliners, and plotting attacks? Let me guess, even the innocent bystanders that this ass killed were guilty somehow, right? Paying taxes to the Great Satan?
If you're so in love with him, why don't you go strap a bomb on yourself and go out in a blaze of glory and bits of flesh.- ubitendo, on 02/13/2008, -7/+7Yeah -- you showed him!!
LOL - poidh, on 02/13/2008, -5/+13Zecchetti is a Muslim. I owned him in another thread.
- pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -10/+2do you agree with blowing up airlines? how about iran air flight 655?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 - mmmmmbiscuits, on 02/13/2008, -1/+11OOOH! Can I play the moral equivalence game too, pintomp3?
- ubitendo, on 02/13/2008, -7/+7Yeah -- you showed him!!
- gaia90210, on 02/15/2008, -0/+0China needs to flood the middle east market with more shoddy slippers ala the e-mail spam where the slippers cause lesions on the skin.... except this time China ups the toxic waste content so that the slippers kill people faster... the middle east region is too messed up and it needs to be cleared so that there can be a new beginning...
- CoolWind, on 02/13/2008, -19/+6he's right up there with Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon
- amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -15/+30Yes. The pig Nasrallah is next. Let us hope the Mughniyeh funeral is well attended. A well aimed cluster bomb would solve a lot of problems.
- ubitendo, on 02/13/2008, -16/+7Yeah, we gotta kill the kids too because they'll be seeking revenge.
- amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -7/+18Hezbollah needs to learn that they cannot hide behind civilians. If that means collateral damage, so be it.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -13/+6So you'll gladly kill civilians to get accomplish your goal?
You're no better than the people you want dead.
Looking around on your profile for any signs of age or military involvement, I see you've decided to make neither known, but yet you're more than willing to "rah rah" other peoples kids in, to go kill civilians, to "get those bad guys". I'm GLAD you don't have a gun, representing me to the rest of the world. You're much less dangerous here as a loud-mouthed "First Chairborne Division" type. No more likable, or more intelligent, but far less dangerous. Except to your family and everyone else you show off your closet full of guns to.
You sir, are a douchebag. - pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -8/+7you wouldn't be saying that if your family was "collateral damage".
- neko6, on 02/14/2008, -1/+4Bjorn - If your'e not willing to allow collateral damage, you will never fight anyone, and thus eventually will lose and be killed.
Pintomp - If your family runs to the shelters 3 times a day for a year until one day your kid is killed by a rocket, you wouldn't care about "collateral damage", you'll want your army to pound the enemy until they surrender. - Iconoclast25, on 02/14/2008, -2/+4@ pinto - my family wouldn't allow those raghead vermin to come any closer than rifle range. We might get damaged, but there would be no "collateral' about it. If the pals are all that concerned about their families, they could always tell the terrorists to take a hike - hamas, et. al. are doing this "for the people," right?
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -13/+6So you'll gladly kill civilians to get accomplish your goal?
- amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -7/+18Hezbollah needs to learn that they cannot hide behind civilians. If that means collateral damage, so be it.
- Zecchetti, on 02/13/2008, -18/+8Cluster bombs? You're a sick bloodthirsty prick.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -10/+17And you are a sick cowardly terrorist lover . . . hope you go to that particular funeral.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -12/+7He is very bloodthirsty. It's sort of funny actually. He doesn't realize that he is a mirror image of those he so passionately hates.
- neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1Not really - he hates those who wants to murder him, its natural. They hate him, on the other hand, because he refuses to accept their religion.
- Zecchetti, on 02/20/2008, -0/+1"because he refuses to accept their religion".
Is that really why they resist Israel? ***** much?
- pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -13/+5perhaps you don't know what cluster bombs are. they are like landmines in civilian areas. their use is condemned by the international community. either you don't know what they are, or you are no better than the terrorists.
- ubitendo, on 02/13/2008, -16/+7Yeah, we gotta kill the kids too because they'll be seeking revenge.
- troye, on 02/13/2008, -7/+18... good riddance.
- Barbosa, on 02/13/2008, -10/+9Yeah Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out! /s
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -2/+9I'm quite sure nobody would have a problem sorting this one out.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -2/+9I'm quite sure nobody would have a problem sorting this one out.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -43/+18Do you have numbers to back that up?
- bonjoursuisse, on 02/13/2008, -8/+46see janes article sept 29 2001
http://www.janes.com/security/international_securi ...
describing the attacks on sept. 11, 2001:
"Directing the mission, Aman officers believe, were two of the world’s foremost terrorist masterminds: the Lebanese Imad Mughniyeh, head of the special overseas operations for Hizbullah, and the Egyptian Dr.Ayman Al Zawahiri, senior member of Al-Qaeda and possible successor of the ailing Osama Bin Laden." - datarefuge, on 02/13/2008, -21/+58*puts on Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust."*
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -9/+25/* cranks up volume and joins in chorus */
- SlvrEagle23, on 02/13/2008, -3/+13// agrees, but uses inline comments to be different
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -9/+25/* cranks up volume and joins in chorus */
- dlbfromLA, on 02/13/2008, -23/+43"Another One Bites the Dust."* Exactly! Good Riddance, I hope they can find a few more to go meet their 70 virgins in Burkas!
- israelonblog, on 02/13/2008, -11/+23dlbfromLA, come on...72! u forgot 2! ;) i have no idea how they can find so many girls up there...mmm
- lucutus, on 02/13/2008, -7/+25I've heard only 72 virgins, never anything about male or female S/C
- israelonblog, on 02/13/2008, -7/+20lol :)
- Gryffydd, on 02/13/2008, -4/+8Where do they find them? They're actually all the girls that get stoned to death (not in the good way) for wearing their hair wrong or something.
P.S. They're not actually girls...more like perpetually virginal spirit/angel type things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houris#.2272_Virgins. ... - thotpoizn, on 02/13/2008, -0/+5Actually, isn't it... 72 RAISINS? Man, there's a whole lotta dudes gonna show up and be pissed, going "WTF is this? Raisins?!? It's not even a big handful. I blowed my nuts off for THIS?!?"
- lucutus, on 02/13/2008, -7/+25I've heard only 72 virgins, never anything about male or female S/C
- DevilInPgh, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5Virgins? I thought it was "crystal-clear raisins"!
- israelonblog, on 02/13/2008, -11/+23dlbfromLA, come on...72! u forgot 2! ;) i have no idea how they can find so many girls up there...mmm
- lucutus, on 02/13/2008, -17/+25I'd be more apt to believe this was a covert and or contract killing with US backing, than one pulled off by Israeli agents.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -8/+27It would be nice to think the US has the stones to do something like this . . . and even nicer if this was only the beginning of a long list!
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -12/+11It would be what? Last time i checked what made the US "nice" was the fact that we have a judicial system based upon peer review. Again, not that this dude didn't deserve what he had coming but your a f'n moron if you think CIA having uncontrollable powers are "nice".
- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -3/+12We go with the cruise missle aproach, the israelis are willing to go all out, think of the nazis, israel gave rewards to anybody who killed them when they fled to south america
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -4/+12Who said anything about "uncontrollable?" Try to spend some time on reading comprehension when you try for that GED, "f'n moron." You will need to improve your spelling and grammar, also, if "your (sic)" to graduate.
Just how are you going to extradite rabid dogs like these from their packs of protectors to do things your way? Why don't you just walk up to the guy with an arrest warrant? Possibly file an extradition request with hezbollah? Those approaches will work (sarc) - more like you will be part of the boxed deluxe set of video beheadings. Targeted assassinations of our enemies is a tool which should be available to our intelligence services. Not indiscriminate, not without some approval mechanism external to the organizations, but available for this sort of situation. - Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10I think if my people had just suffered an attempt at genocide, I'd be offering rewards for giving payback to the people doing it as well slvrbullet.
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -12/+11It would be what? Last time i checked what made the US "nice" was the fact that we have a judicial system based upon peer review. Again, not that this dude didn't deserve what he had coming but your a f'n moron if you think CIA having uncontrollable powers are "nice".
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -1/+24Hezbollah is primarily Israel's concern, not the US. Of course it could have been the US, but I would give 8:1 odds in favor of it being an Israeli operation.
- spiralspirit, on 02/13/2008, -1/+14this guy was thought to be one of the thinkers behind 9/11, hence possible US involvement
- Opiate, on 02/13/2008, -12/+1Which is proof he wasn't.
- thebaron2, on 02/13/2008, -0/+11How exactly does that line of logic work, Opiate?
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10Well, from the user name, we would know how Opiate begins the day if the obtuse comment had not already provided ample evidence.
- CoolWind, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10Of course it's much easier for Israel to have operatives in Syria, than it is for the US.
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -8/+1So ture!
Syria would kiss Israel's ass in any possible way, so syrian intelligence would do such operation for Israel for some price. They having been begging them to accept negotiations, but USA is blocking that.
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -8/+1So ture!
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -2/+9There are hezbollah cells in the US - they busted, or at least outed one, in Charlotte, NC, within the last two years or so. Plus, it is not as if hezbollah is exactly advocating a lovefest with us.
This maggot was responsible for the death of at least one US citizen and quite likely thousands more. That gives us a compelling interest in his death. While I agree it is almost certainly an Israeli operation, I'd like to think the US helped in some way. - neko6, on 02/13/2008, -0/+13Hizbullah killed dozens of Americans as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_ ...
- spiralspirit, on 02/13/2008, -1/+14this guy was thought to be one of the thinkers behind 9/11, hence possible US involvement
- coolkatz321, on 02/13/2008, -2/+28Israel has the best trained special ops and armed forces in the world (yes, their training program easily trumps ours due to the massive threats they face). I have no problem betting Israel did this all by themselves.
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -10/+2The proof is of course the last war with Hezbollah, when the Israeli army and intelligence made "Great Success"
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+12Actually the special ops and the military inteligence were very successful. You want to direct your sarcasm to the high command, who couldn't collectively find their asses with a radar in a moon-lighted night, and the political echelon, who just...wasn't.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+12Actually the special ops and the military inteligence were very successful. You want to direct your sarcasm to the high command, who couldn't collectively find their asses with a radar in a moon-lighted night, and the political echelon, who just...wasn't.
- Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -0/+15The elites of the elites in other countries are comparable to Israel's special ops. You'd be utterly amazed at what a veteran USMC Recon team can do. In the ME the Israel team would be superior due to the better knowledge of the area and how to adapt there.
No problems believing this was done only by Israel, anyone who underestimates their level of military skill or intelligence gathering is only fooling themself.- nytrokiss, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1Remember the second you don't respect something it can kill you!
- gaia90210, on 02/13/2008, -5/+0jeez another fanboy... do you have on hand knowledge or is this one of your many wet dreams? Israel elites are sooo good that during the last war with hezbollah they couldn't even retrieve their own kidnapped soldiers... soldier is still missing I believe... I guess no matter how good they are, Hezbollah soldiers are a step ahead since they have a lot less in terms of financing / backing and yet are still able to pull off daring strikes against a much technologically superior foe... not a fan of Hezbollah by any means but it irks me that people always say one elite force is better than another... unless you can show proof... the US Navy Seals, Delta Force, Green Beret, etc. are no slouches and I would easily put them up against any in the world. ANY!!!
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4"daring strikes" ? you mean their daring putting of armaments and targets inside inhabited areas?
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4"daring strikes" ? you mean their daring putting of armaments and targets inside inhabited areas?
- needleboy, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1You're a fool then...
- lucutus, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2I'd prefer not to say where or what but having been through and had influence over special ops training myself I've the utmost respect for the Gideonim. Still when it comes to secret underhanded assassination the US has a great unpublicized history of events politically and publicly far removed from any us involvement. It is inside knowledge of this that prompted my original statement.
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -10/+2The proof is of course the last war with Hezbollah, when the Israeli army and intelligence made "Great Success"
- pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1you assume there is much of a difference.
- gaia90210, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1Israels MO has been the missile from afar and the US can't seem to get anybody on the most wanted list so my money is on a jealous rival... Imad was probably sleeping around and he finally slept with the wrong woman (or man) and BAM! car bomb... remember car bombs or IEDs are the favourite MO of terrorists....
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4The important thing is the maggot is dead; who did it is secondary.
- lucutus, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3Mughniyeh had been on the top of the US Most Wanted list until he was replaced by Osama Bin Laden and other al-Qaeda leaders following the 11 September 2001 attacks. He was alleged to have been involved in the killings of more Americans than anyone else in the world. The US government also placed a $5m bounty on his head. " One way or another he was brought to justice " Sean McCormack US State Department Spokesman
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -8/+27It would be nice to think the US has the stones to do something like this . . . and even nicer if this was only the beginning of a long list!
- anderzole, on 02/13/2008, -18/+30Getting the monster Nasrallah would be a huge strike that would get lots of media attention.
- Aharoni, on 02/13/2008, -0/+13Considering that Nasrallah really took a beating publicly and he now faces internal political issues in Lebanon then I wouldn't say Israel would be very enthusiastic on taking him out. His claims that he has "multiple body parts of Israeli soldiers" and tries to hint towards Israel to make a deal with him (so he'll be seen as a hero again) pretty much suggests he is in trouble. He's not the same, calm, arrogant Nasrallah we used to know and hate.
Remember, Nasrallah came to power after Israel took care of Hizballah's previous #1 - and Nasrallah was ten times worse. So now that his image took a beating its serving Israel quite well to keep him alive. You don't know who will rise to power after him and history may repeat itself.- needleboy, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4Actually, Hezbollah were always eager for deals with Israel, usually concerning prisoner exchange (or return by Israel).
But I think you are correct about Israel's lack of motive for his assassination.
- needleboy, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4Actually, Hezbollah were always eager for deals with Israel, usually concerning prisoner exchange (or return by Israel).
- Aharoni, on 02/13/2008, -0/+13Considering that Nasrallah really took a beating publicly and he now faces internal political issues in Lebanon then I wouldn't say Israel would be very enthusiastic on taking him out. His claims that he has "multiple body parts of Israeli soldiers" and tries to hint towards Israel to make a deal with him (so he'll be seen as a hero again) pretty much suggests he is in trouble. He's not the same, calm, arrogant Nasrallah we used to know and hate.
- rmxz, on 02/13/2008, -15/+3.
- GoneGreen, on 02/13/2008, -10/+30What a beautiful world it would be if all religious fanatics just disappeared!
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12ALL of them
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -5/+9As long as we're clear on what you define as fanatic, then yes.
Now if you think fanatic is anyone with any level of religious belief, then you're worse than Hitler (yeah I invoked Godwin, what's it to ya)- dondara, on 02/13/2008, -3/+7Fanatic being someone who is using someone else's faith to manipulate them. ie. "It's God's will that you strap on this bomb and blow that market up." or "God needs you to give me money." We would all be better off without those people. Faith is a private matter that shouldn't be discussed in public.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -3/+6So someone donating money to a church that has a soup kitchen for the homeless is a definition of a fanatic to you?
See, you are worse than Hitler. You're calling for genocide of billions. - pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2maybe he means someone who justifies the expulsion of a people and occupation based on interpreting the bible as a real estate contract.
- needleboy, on 02/13/2008, -1/+1Israel is interpreting U.N. Resolution 181 as a real-estate contract.
You're a fool. - neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+2@pintomp3 - you still havn't shown one reputable source that claims expulsion occured, yet you continue to use the term. Should we understand you are lying to promote hatred?
The bible has nothing to do with anything. Israel was created by the UN, and they won lands in armistice. You can't attack a country and expect to lose nothing...
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -3/+6So someone donating money to a church that has a soup kitchen for the homeless is a definition of a fanatic to you?
- dondara, on 02/13/2008, -3/+7Fanatic being someone who is using someone else's faith to manipulate them. ie. "It's God's will that you strap on this bomb and blow that market up." or "God needs you to give me money." We would all be better off without those people. Faith is a private matter that shouldn't be discussed in public.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -5/+9As long as we're clear on what you define as fanatic, then yes.
- Frost9999, on 02/13/2008, -7/+6The population would suddenly shrink to 5% of the current number.
- Rikkochet, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9To be honest, if all the FANATICS disappeared I'd be surprised if the population shrunk by more than 1%. There are precious few fanatics, a whole lot of sheep, and a lot of independent thinkers who just want to live their lives. But guess which ones make the headlines?
- nepawoods, on 02/13/2008, -8/+10"What a beautiful world it would be if all religious fanatics just disappeared!"
Or if people like you could live in peace with others, rather than wishing them to disappear.- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -3/+7But then they wouldn't be "fanatics" would they. They would just be religious people.
- GoneGreen, on 02/13/2008, -1/+7Please note the "Religious Fanatics", I did not say that all religious people would need to disappear...
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12ALL of them
- digjam, on 02/13/2008, -14/+7I think CIA might have assisted Israel in this super covert operation!
- Frost9999, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6Based on what evidence?
- spiralspirit, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11The same evidence that was being used to blame israel for this - ie, none.
- Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6Blame? I don't think Israel would be worried about the 'blame' of killing this guy.
It'd be like saying the US wouldn't want 'blamed' for killing Bin Laden. - needleboy, on 02/13/2008, -2/+1Not in your eyes. Israel certainly doesn't need any tension with Hezbollah right now, so we sure don't want to be blamed for this if we haven't done it.
- Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6Blame? I don't think Israel would be worried about the 'blame' of killing this guy.
- digjam, on 02/13/2008, -1/+1and thats why i said, I THINK!
- spiralspirit, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11The same evidence that was being used to blame israel for this - ie, none.
- Frost9999, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6Based on what evidence?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -45/+17This is equivalent in most ways to the head of the IDF being killed, the only difference being that Hezbollah is a defense force which is only necessitated by the aggression of the IDF, and not visa versa.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -15/+43Hezbollah came into Israeli soil and kidnapped soldiers and you call them defensive?
Stop being a terrorist apologist.- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -22/+9Israel kidnapped two innocent civilians (Muammar brothers) from Gaza the night before. The soldiers were kidnapped with the intent of using them for negotiations for the release of prisoners. Israel has many innocent Palestinian and Lebanese citizens held in secret prisons scattered throughout the country. Innocent people disappear at the behest of the Israeli commanders. Why are you a terrorist apologist?
- Quilby, on 02/13/2008, -10/+13"Israel has many innocent Palestinian and Lebanese citizens held in secret prisons scattered throughout the country. Innocent people disappear at the behest of the Israeli commanders."
You watch too mcuh PB- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -9/+6"Inside Israel's Secret Prisons"- An article by the preeminent Israeli paper Ha"aretz
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?ite ... - foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6Not much of a reader, are you ? prisoN. Not prisonS. Huge difference.
You're overly ingenuous if you don't think that most countries on earth have a version of a prison like this. - givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -6/+1This is an article about a particular prison, moron. There are plenty of others.
- foopirata, on 02/14/2008, -1/+8And you can prove that because you got proof, which you be showing us in 5...4...3...2...1.....no?
Thought so.
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -9/+6"Inside Israel's Secret Prisons"- An article by the preeminent Israeli paper Ha"aretz
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -6/+14Do you really believe that? Why would Israel kidnap random people? I thought palestine was one big prison, why would it benefit Israel to kidnap randoms and imprison them in an Israeli prison when they were already contained. Isn't it more likely that they were connected with Hamas like Israel said? Also what has this got to do with Hezbollah?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -15/+5Why would Israel kidnap random people? To terrify the Palestinians and force them to leave so Israel can have more land? Being that they continue to expand their settlements, what makes you think that they would not do so?
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -1/+16To make them leave and go where exactly? Israel is giving back land and it's getting used to stage attacks from. Remind me what this has to do with those Hezbollah raids?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -15/+3Which land did it give back exactly? Gaza? You mean the area that they still control completely and patrol with military units? Israel's intent is to push as many Palestinians as possible into Jordan and Lebanon. Many Israeli leaders have stated that the Palestinians aren't even a people, they are Jordanians, and they should go home.
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -0/+11Haha that shows how ignorant of the situation you are then, palestinians are jordanians and egyptians who jordan and egypt don't want. When the mandate of palestine area was shared between a jewish state(Israel) and a muslim state(Transjordan/Jordan), they refused to move to the muslim state because they wanted more land. Now Jordan won't let them in so they think they can take Israel.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -1/+11"Many Israeli leaders have stated that the Palestinians aren't even a people, they are Jordanians, and they should go home."
Funny you mention that because this has been admitted by palestinian leaders as well:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
-Zuheir Mohsen (former Palestinian leader) - givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1You prove my point quite well. Since you don't believe that the Palestinians are a people, they don't deserve a land. You of course fail to recognize that the same argument can be applied to the Jews equally. The only difference is who has more power. You are a hypocrite of the very worst order.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -2/+81) All I stated was that the others support the belief that the Palestinians are not a people ... I did not state my opinion on the subject
2) The Jews are a people
3) My quote showed that the whole palestinian conflict is a made up PR stunt by the Arab world, not any of the ridiculous things you state.
Where is my hypocrisy? Where did I state that the palestinian people don't deserve land?
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10reputable source? I'll even take a bias source like the BBC.
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -2/+14First of all, if they did capture soldiers in the Gaza, then that is the Palestinians job to get them back, not Hezbollah. Second, at least all the prisoners in Israel are kept alive, given 3 square meals and many are allowed to see their families. When IDF troops get kidnapped, no one knows whether they are dead or alive or where they are being kept. For all we know those poor boys are being tortured in Iran.
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1Israel has thousands of Lebanese civilians locked up, too.
"When IDF troops get kidnapped, no one knows whether they are dead or alive or where they are being kept. For all we know those poor boys are being tortured in Iran."
Replace Iran with Israel and you have the same situation that Palestinians and Lebanese face. - weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9I hear this again and again but when Hezbollah made demands in 06 they only asked for 4 prisoners, all of them murderers. Heres a list prisoners made by Hezbollah and HRW, theres less than 20 and most of them deserve to be there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_prisoners_in ... - foopirata, on 02/14/2008, -2/+7@givemereplay
Thousands? You seem to be so awfully familiar with the Israeli prison system. Are you in the Sha"bas by any chance? No? Then I guess you'll either have to produce some evidence or shut your trap. - solid12345, on 02/14/2008, -1/+3Syria's Lebanese Puppets held Samir Gagea in prison for 15 years. Hezbollah is deathly afraid that the Maronites will re-arm and assert their authority again, and I hope they do.
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1Israel has thousands of Lebanese civilians locked up, too.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -2/+13"Israel kidnapped two innocent civilians (Muammar brothers) from Gaza the night before." - can you prove they were kidnapped, or provide a reason to believe that they were innocent? Why would Israel waste resources and endanger soldiers in arresting innocent civilians?
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -6/+2What's more convincing?
"Those soldiers have guns"
or
"Those soldiers have my son....."
They're being taken as bargaining chips. - neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1Israel has hundreds of Palestinian terrorists in Israeli prisons that Hamas demands they release - why should Israel go and take innocents that Hamas don't care about?
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -6/+2What's more convincing?
- Quilby, on 02/13/2008, -10/+13"Israel has many innocent Palestinian and Lebanese citizens held in secret prisons scattered throughout the country. Innocent people disappear at the behest of the Israeli commanders."
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -22/+9Israel kidnapped two innocent civilians (Muammar brothers) from Gaza the night before. The soldiers were kidnapped with the intent of using them for negotiations for the release of prisoners. Israel has many innocent Palestinian and Lebanese citizens held in secret prisons scattered throughout the country. Innocent people disappear at the behest of the Israeli commanders. Why are you a terrorist apologist?
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -7/+25The only reason Hezbollah has any power is because "they're at war" with Israel. It's in Hezbollah's interest to keep the war going because without it they'd just be a few angry men in Beirut with no power what so ever.
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -16/+6Yeah, lets keep pretending they're are war for no reason. /rollseyes
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -2/+9So... whats the reason then?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -16/+4Because Israel took over a country and stole land, money and property, and then invaded and occupied Lebanon for a few decades, and still won't define its border so that it can attack into Lebanon without getting in trouble with the UN? How about that, for starters.
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -3/+14Which country did Israel take over? Which part of Lebanon was Israel occupying when Hezbollah raided Israel in 2006? Theres a buffer zone instead of a real border because Hezbollah can't be trusted to be near Israel, as they proved in 2006. So what were those reasons again?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -14/+4Israel could not exist if it didn't kick Palestinians off of their land. Hezbollah raided the undefined Israeli border area, which is not recognized internationally. They technically raided soldiers in their own territory. Israel can't be trusted near any other nation, as it has proven again and again.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11"Israel could not exist if it didn't kick Palestinians off of their land" - The UN thought differently.
"They technically raided soldiers in their own territory" - so its OK for Israel to attack unprovoked beyond undefined borders such as Gaza?
"Israel can't be trusted near any other nation, as it has proven again and again." - Israel signed a peace treaty with any nation that agreed, and returned all lands taken. They have nuclear weapons and don't use them even when under attack. Yeah, they've proven their accountability. - Xenufield, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11Yes lets blame Israel, the country that has been under attack since its creation by those who controlled the area (the Brits).
- pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -9/+2you mean the country that launched an illegal preventive war?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventive_war#1967_A ... - gaia90210, on 02/15/2008, -2/+0Well the UN created Israel and the Jews were happy with that but now that the UN has continually stated that what Israel is doing is illegal and inhuman, Israel ignores them... UN is a useless tool and a waste of money... the major powers ignore them whenever convenient and the UN can only at best scare third world countries... quoting the UN is the same as saying "it's true because it said so in Wikipedia..."
- neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1@pintomp - nobody says the preemptive strike was illegal except for you. When 3 countries declare war against you, you have every right to strike. They declared war first, their problem.
- weeFred, on 02/13/2008, -2/+9So... whats the reason then?
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -16/+6Yeah, lets keep pretending they're are war for no reason. /rollseyes
- tannim111, on 02/13/2008, -7/+21Which is, of course, why it has a longstanding policy of firing mortar and rockets into Israel, as well as deploying snipers to attack Israelis (interesting little tidbit - did you know that the trees lining the roads in northern Israel were planted to block snipers' lines of sight?)
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -17/+6Pardon, but why do you expect that Israel can waltz in, steal peoples' land, steal their savings out of the banks and push the people out with a dividing wall and brutal treatment and not expect a violent backlash? Can you imagine what you would be saying if the Lebanese/Palestinians took over Israel and did the same to the Israelis? You would be crying bloody murder. You don't for the Palestinians because you're a hypocrite.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -4/+15You do realize that unlike Israel which let Arabs stay on there land in 48, the Arab world kicked all the jews out, stole their land and money.
Even if I agreed that ISrael did the same (which they didn't), it's ignorant of you to suggest that the surrounding Arab nations didn't do the same.
Who's the hypocrite?- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -12/+4When did all the arab nations kick the Israelis out? Most Jews were in the diaspora before the seizure of Jerusalem.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -3/+11@giveme
I don't believe Wikipedia as the best source, but it will at least give you my frame of reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Ar ... - PA42, on 02/13/2008, -3/+9@givemereplay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Ar ... - givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -14/+4Do you know the difference between an exodus and expulsion? The Jews left by choice after being discriminated against/harmed by violence. The Palestinians were forced out of their homes at gun point on penalty of prison or death.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -3/+13You have it backwords and the proof is in the pudding as they say. There is a large Israeli Arab population BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T KICKED OUT. There is a small, almost non-existant Jewish population in the Arab word because they were kicked out.
It's clear from your comments here that your opinion is that whatever disgusting, immoral horrible things that Arabs do it is all justified because ISrael is evil, while ignoring the blame that should lie on Arabs for their part in this crisis. You ignore the fact that the palestinians rejected the 48 borders and chose war instead. You ignore there murders prior to 48, you excuse the rocket attacks aimed solely at civilians and you think you make some point by arbitrarily putting down ISrael.
I'll admit that Israel has made mistakes, but they are a small country surrounded by people who are very vocal about killing them. You'll notice Hamas doesn't state that they want the 48 borders (like you do), they state the destruction of Israel. - neko6, on 02/13/2008, -3/+12"The Palestinians were forced out of their homes at gun point on penalty of prison or death." - Can you find a reputable source that claims this? The Arabs left by their own will. Some say it was because they feared the war, others say its because they were told to leave by the Arab leaders, to make the ethnic cleansing of Jews easier.
It is a fact that there are hundreds of thousands of Arabs who are Israeli civilians, so they were NOT forced to leave. Also, it makes no sense - if you have enough firepower to take over people's homes, why not just kill them? Why send them away? So that they can later reclaim their property? Your theory is unreasonable. - givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1Even Israel can't kill it's way to success. The world community gets mad when you slaughter a few hundred civilians, much less tens of thousands.
I don't excuse Arab terrorism, I simply chastise the Israelis equally for their terrorism and point out that it was Israel that started the whole mess. - PA42, on 02/13/2008, -0/+8"I simply chastise the Israelis equally for their terrorism and point out that it was Israel that started the whole mess."
1) you haven't chastised the palestinians at all
2) State funded action is not terrorism
3) you do excuse arab terrorism "Pardon, but why do you expect that Israel can waltz in, steal peoples' land, steal their savings out of the banks and push the people out with a dividing wall and brutal treatment and not expect a violent backlash?" there you specifically excuse terrorism
4) ISrael did not start this - neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1"Even Israel can't kill it's way to success. The world community gets mad when you slaughter a few hundred civilians, much less tens of thousands."
1. The world community did nothing to China, Rowanda and several other countries that slaughtered 80Million people together in the last few decades. How about Jordan and Syria, each slaughtered more Palestinians in a week then Israel did in 40 years - who said anything? Where are the UN forces? Where is the condemnation? Where is the boycott?
2. I understand you can show no reputable source that claims that Palestinians were sent expelled. This makes you a blatant lier, and the worst kind - the kind that lies to create hatred.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -4/+15You do realize that unlike Israel which let Arabs stay on there land in 48, the Arab world kicked all the jews out, stole their land and money.
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -17/+6Pardon, but why do you expect that Israel can waltz in, steal peoples' land, steal their savings out of the banks and push the people out with a dividing wall and brutal treatment and not expect a violent backlash? Can you imagine what you would be saying if the Lebanese/Palestinians took over Israel and did the same to the Israelis? You would be crying bloody murder. You don't for the Palestinians because you're a hypocrite.
- kara1234, on 02/13/2008, -17/+5I don't view Hezbollah as any better than Israel's actions. They are both fairly unhinged groups and both are doing their operations in service of religious goals.
It would be nice if Hezbollah more strongly supported a multiethnic, multireligious Lebanon. It would also be great if Israel could embrace the many non-Jewish Palestinians instead of herding them into bantustan like territories.- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -14/+7Hezbollah has said that it will recognize Israel if Israel stops aggressing and fixes its borders at the internationally accepted border lines. Israel refuses, and refuses to define its borders at all. Which side sounds like the aggressor to you?
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Reputable source?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1http://books.google.com/books?id=pPYeKlBU-hQC&pg=P ...
- foopirata, on 02/14/2008, -1/+5Oh, givemereplay, the final word of Mahmoud Al Mawla.
You don't know who he is?
Right. Neither do we. Cause he's a nobody that doesn't speak for Hezzb'Allah.
When Nasrallah says that then come calling. - neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1That source doesn't state what you claimed. But then again, you lied above about expulsion of the Palestinians, so it doesn't surprise me that you lie again here. Anything to promote hatred.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Reputable source?
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -14/+7Hezbollah has said that it will recognize Israel if Israel stops aggressing and fixes its borders at the internationally accepted border lines. Israel refuses, and refuses to define its borders at all. Which side sounds like the aggressor to you?
- mike17032, on 02/13/2008, -6/+23Except of course this piece of ***** was a wanted terrorist that has hijacked planes. If the head of your "defense force" is a wanted ***** terrorist, it kinda removes any case for the "defense force" being legit.
***** you, and all terrorist apologists.- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -15/+8Ariel Sharon, previous Prime Minister of Israel and head of the IDF committed the Qibya Massacre in 1953, killing dozens of innocent civilians. He was even court marshalled by the Israelis for it. If the head of your "defense force" is a wanted ***** terrorist, it kind of removes any case for the "Defense force" being legit.
***** you, terrorist apologist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibya_massacre- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -3/+11I read this and understand that it was against ENEMY CIVILIANS (In Jordan), killed 40+ and it was after many more Israelis were killed in their raids.
While I'm not comfortable with attacks against enemy civilians, you can't ignore these facts:
1. This was over 50 years ago, less then 10 years after WW2. In this era, attacking civilians in war was the norm (Hiroshima, Dresden, etc.). You can't blame people who lived in another era for what has only become illegal later.
2. Jordan attacked Israel, not the other way around
3. After this attack, the attacks against Israel stopped. This means dozens of lives (maybe hundreds) were saved by this operation. Maybe another war was prevented.
Not everything is black or white.- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1Right, after all they were brown and somehow were ENEMY CIVILIANS because Israel hadn't annexed the West Bank yet. You make me sick. If the situation was reversed you would probably recommend reprisal killings to the tune of hundreds of more innocent civilians and not bat an eye.
- neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1"they were brown" - you are talking American, nobody in Israel cares about skin color.
"somehow were ENEMY CIVILIANS" - They were civilians in a state that was formally an enemy of Israel and has just killed dozens of Israelis. Thats not "somehow", thats the definition.
"because Israel hadn't annexed the West Bank yet." - Yeah, because it took another act of aggression from Jordan's side until Israel won the west bank.
"If the situation was reversed you would probably recommend reprisal killings to the tune of hundreds of more innocent civilians and not bat an eye." - If Israel would have constantly been the aggressive side i would have condemned them. Since Jordan was the aggressive side in that conflict, I don't condemn Israel. Its just like I condemn Nazi Germany and Japan for WW2, even though the allies did some very gray things (Hiroshima nukes, Hamburg fire, Dresden carpet bombing etc.)
When somebody starts a fight they must be beaten until they surrender and promise never to repeat it. If they start another fight later, drastic measures must be taken. Yes, innocent people suffer, but there's no other way to create peace. If anyone can start a war and attempt to gain something (such as land), but if they lose the war the world community sees that they lose nothing - that is PURE INCENTIVE FOR WAR MONGERING.
BTW, Jordan later killed 20,000 Palestinians in less then two weeks, but you don't seem to care about that. You only care when people are killed if they are killed by Jews, up to the point that you push a single gray incident of 43 deaths beyond what Egypt's national radio called genocide.
- givemereplay, on 02/15/2008, -1/+1It's really cute that the Hovevi Zion have hit this article in full force. Go power diggers, attack anyone who disagrees with Israel anexxing territory that doesn't belong to them!
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -3/+11I read this and understand that it was against ENEMY CIVILIANS (In Jordan), killed 40+ and it was after many more Israelis were killed in their raids.
- givemereplay, on 02/13/2008, -15/+8Ariel Sharon, previous Prime Minister of Israel and head of the IDF committed the Qibya Massacre in 1953, killing dozens of innocent civilians. He was even court marshalled by the Israelis for it. If the head of your "defense force" is a wanted ***** terrorist, it kind of removes any case for the "Defense force" being legit.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -4/+21@givemereplay:
FTA - "Mughniyeh, 45, was Hezbollah's security chief in the 1980s. He was believed to have directed a group that held Westerners hostage in Lebanon. Among them was journalist Terry Anderson, a former Associated Press chief Middle East correspondent who was held captive for six years.Mughniyeh, who had been in hiding for years, was one of the fugitives indicted in the United States for the 1985 hijacking of a TWA airliner in which a U.S. Navy diver was killed. He is on an FBI wanted list with a $25 million bounty on his head. The bounty is equal to that the U.S. has put for Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden.Israel accused him of involvement in the 1992 bombing of Israel's embassy in Argentina in which 29 people were killed and the blast at a Buenos Aires Jewish center two years later that killed 95."
Gee...he was an angel and it's all Israel's fault, uh?- givemereplay, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1He deserved to die for fighting invaders in his land? String up George Washington too, you hypocrite. As to the Buenos Aires bomb, that was in response to the assassination of the leader Abbas al-Musawi by Israeli attack helicopters, killing his sons, wife and four others. Nice guys, these Israelis.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -15/+43Hezbollah came into Israeli soil and kidnapped soldiers and you call them defensive?
- Pastyman, on 02/13/2008, -9/+79Well he who lives by the car bomb, dies by the car bomb.
- nirav72, on 02/13/2008, -0/+12Well said.
- pintomp3, on 02/13/2008, -15/+1israel was founded on terrorism, it's no surprise it faces it as a result
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bomb ...- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10Israel was founded on the Partition declared by the UN.
But hey, what's facts between emotional appeals, eh?
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10Israel was founded on the Partition declared by the UN.
- Duskraven, on 02/13/2008, -12/+30good riddance
- charlatan, on 02/13/2008, -21/+34I notice none of the anti-Israel diggers are commenting...I'm stunned. Certainly someone can contribute an ignorant comment?
- iainc, on 02/13/2008, -7/+19He was a murdering scumnbag. Good riddance. I could care less who took him out. I hope there was nothing left of him to bury.
- elig, on 02/13/2008, -5/+26Sure, I'll try. How about:
* Come on! This is from FOX News. Surely it's a government cover-up by Zionist extremists.
Or maybe:
* Mughniyeh wouldn't have blown up Jewish community centers or killed Americans if it wasn't for Israeli imperialism. It's all our fault, anyway.
How's that?- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -4/+10"How's that?"
. . . an accurate summation of the "ignorant comment(s)" typically submitted by the terrorist supporters.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -4/+10"How's that?"
- Digger1218, on 02/13/2008, -11/+2.
- dondara, on 02/13/2008, -11/+5You already did.
- Barbosa, on 02/13/2008, -14/+3There's no need to comment. You guys are doing enough on your own to discredit yourselves and make Israelis and her supporters look like blood thirsty, supremacist, maniacs. Support for Israel is slowly waning in the US and talk like this will only make that process happen faster. Keep up the good work!
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -2/+8If there is no need to comment, why did you?
- Barbosa, on 02/13/2008, -8/+1Because I care about you so much.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -2/+8If there is no need to comment, why did you?
- Swift2, on 02/13/2008, -29/+20So, another extra-judicial killing. That's worked so well in the past, hasn't it? It's brought peace and freedom and justice to the region? All the Arabs just love having people get blown up by car bombs, after all. Couldn't have a, you know, trial?
- coolkatz321, on 02/13/2008, -6/+11No, he definitely deserved this one lol
- vertinox, on 02/13/2008, -5/+5Not to nitpick, but Palestinians aren't Arabs. Sunni and Shia nonwithstanding...
Still, it says something when its ok to have state executions without a trial.- Aharoni, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6Why of course. If we would just lower our weapons they would surely stop seeing all of us as infidels that must be killed, right?
We'll all dance in a circle, felate trees and sing Kumba-*****-ya. He was a murderer, he deserved it.
Grow up, intelligence operations, assassinations on the enemies' homes and political plotting have been around since man decided to stop eating leafs and get down from the trees.- Kizilbash, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1Oh, so now it's 'assasinations'? But if they take out one of your top guys then of course it is evil terrorism, isn't it? And the people doing the 'assasination' are not murderers?
- Aharoni, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3Simple:
Targeting civilians in order to instill fear in the population (and kill as many "infidels" as possible) = terrorism.
Targeting those who wish to kill civilians and are actively working to eradicate you and your country from the face of the Earth = assassination.
- Aharoni, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3Simple:
- Kizilbash, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1Oh, so now it's 'assasinations'? But if they take out one of your top guys then of course it is evil terrorism, isn't it? And the people doing the 'assasination' are not murderers?
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -3/+7Palestinians aren't Arabs? More revisionist BS to fake a Palestinian identity. They are Arabs from the Levant, they speak Arabic, have Arabic customs, and before Arafat subscribed to Pan-Arabism.
- Aharoni, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6Why of course. If we would just lower our weapons they would surely stop seeing all of us as infidels that must be killed, right?
- Number23, on 02/13/2008, -3/+14Hey *****-nut, the US made at least two attempts to arrest the guy but France and Saudi Arabia thwarted those attempts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imad_Mugniyah#Actions ...
Various law enforcement agencies have attempted to capture Mugniyah. The United States tried to secure his capture in France in 1986, but were thwarted by French refusal to detain him.
The United States tried to capture him several times afterwards, the first being a 1995 attempt to detain him as the plane he was traveling on was supposed to stop in Saudi Arabia. However, Saudi officials refused to allow the plane to land.
So STFU, dolt- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Our good friends, the Saudis. Blocking the Clinton administration from getting this guy. I mean, he was only "wagging the dog", right?
With friends like these.....
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3Our good friends, the Saudis. Blocking the Clinton administration from getting this guy. I mean, he was only "wagging the dog", right?
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+3"All the Arabs just love having people get blown up by car bombs, after all."
- they must, since they are so eager to do it themselves.
Tell ya what, swifty, why don't you march right up to the terrorist enclaves and demand to extradite one of these murderous scum? Be sure to leave an address for where you want the video of the beheading sent. I'd bet you tried out for the football team in High School but were too stupid to be even a tackling dummy. - solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -1/+7Hard to arrest someone when they are in hiding. And i'm sure sure it would be easy for Israelis to come into an Arab country and take someone out with cuffs, right?
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1Maybe we should do that for all wanted criminals.
The country doesn't want you to come arrest him, or ship him out, so we'll just hop the border and kill them.
That won't cause any blowback. None at all.
Government sponsored assassinations of foreign figureheads always lead to bad things.
The man is now a martyr. Fuel for recruiting. Good job.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1Maybe we should do that for all wanted criminals.
- nirav72, on 02/13/2008, -2/+7"So, another extra-judicial killing."
This isn't a legal issue *****. Therefore, he was a legitimate target. If you love hezbollah so much, why don't you go fight for them. ***** coward!
- eyalfein, on 02/13/2008, -14/+21It's about time.
Ok, who's next? - deformation, on 02/13/2008, -49/+19R.I.P Imad, a good leader and a true warrior against the Zionist cowards.
- turbopro, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12Welcome to the FBI watchlist....
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -12/+2YOUR FBI can suck my big *****
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+5Nice set of lies you attempt to peddle in your posts, achmed. The FBI is highly unlikely to be worried about something as insignificant as a maggot's ***** (didn't know you had 'em until now . . . well, I still don't - only your unsubstantiated claim to show for it).
- SysstemLord, on 02/13/2008, -12/+2YOUR FBI can suck my big *****
- Brownds, on 02/13/2008, -12/+9@deformation
FBI Cat is watching you masturbate! I hope a pig sits on your face and your 72 virgins have teeth in their vaginas!- ubitendo, on 02/13/2008, -3/+2...what?
- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -8/+2And your a dueche bag
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3It's called a spell-checker. Most real browsers have one. There's even one built into Digg.
Look into it. It can help you from looking like a douche bag next time you call someone one.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3It's called a spell-checker. Most real browsers have one. There's even one built into Digg.
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -4/+11Deformation, here is a lesson for you. Terrorist:
noun
a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.
Since you simpathize with this dead terrorist, may I conclude that you are one to?- Opiate, on 02/13/2008, -8/+3Sounds a lot like Israel and the U.S
- deformation, on 02/13/2008, -6/+4I'll give you a good definition now, Terrorist :
"A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but can’t afford an air force."
I never supported bombing innocent people, but get your media fixed, then tell me about terrorists.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5Yup, deformation alright...
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+5/* Looks forward to seeing you join him
- glasnostic, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4so.. when are you going to become one of those "DO" conservatives rather than the sit back and "do nothing" ones you are now.
when was the last time you did anything you ***** pussy?
- glasnostic, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4so.. when are you going to become one of those "DO" conservatives rather than the sit back and "do nothing" ones you are now.
- inajeep, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4Hmm a Syrian and an Obama supporter if you believe his profile and diggs. Don't feed the troll.
- turbopro, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12Welcome to the FBI watchlist....
- iainc, on 02/13/2008, -12/+23Warms the cockles of my heart to hear that someone like this has checked-out early.
- eyalfein, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12With all the respect, are you sure you want to give the credit to Israel?
I mean, Israelis don't care when the Arabs blame them for almost every bad thing that happens to them,
But getting that much credit.... something is fishy.- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+1And considering that the article doesn't state what the OP states in the description, I have to digg this down as inaccurate also.
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -20/+14Not that the man deserved to live, but do assisinations actually accomplish anything? State supported car bombs? Sounds to me like Israel has crossed that fine line between protecting self interests and inciting violence, fear and state supported terrorism.
- mike17032, on 02/13/2008, -4/+10We accomplished one more dead piece of *****.
When dealing with top level known terrorists, I see no reason to wear gloves. Capture is great, because then we can beat some ***** information out of them. But when thats not possible, we need people to hunt these ***** down in whatever hole they live in and kill the ***** out of them.- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -2/+7If we captured him, the same people complaining about him dying would be complaining about him being waterboarded or sent to Guantanamo... The only thing they would be happy with is a long drawn out court session lasting 10 years, exposing security methods and intel, and in the end, a 6 month sentence for being naughty.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1.... insane to read these kind of comments.
" we need people to hunt these ***** down in whatever hole they live in and kill the ***** out of them. " - Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4. . . and evidence of terminal stupidity to suggest they are incorrect, regardless of the terminology used. No question you are, in fact, insane, for that suggestion.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -5/+1.... insane to read these kind of comments.
- benkrembs, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4Agreed. Especially if it's a kill-or-be-killed situation.
This guy wasn't exactly calling for dialog, you know.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/13/2008, -2/+7If we captured him, the same people complaining about him dying would be complaining about him being waterboarded or sent to Guantanamo... The only thing they would be happy with is a long drawn out court session lasting 10 years, exposing security methods and intel, and in the end, a 6 month sentence for being naughty.
- CoolWind, on 02/13/2008, -6/+4Good point. They crossed that line long ago. And now we see the US using similar lawless/terrorist measures.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+2Terrorism is a response to "shock and awe". How do you fight a military 10000x bigger than yours? Guerrilla warfare. Make them spend themselves to bankruptcy. They'll devolve and become the very things they claim to be fighting against. Killing civilians and terrorizing a nation.
And it's working.
Expect more of it.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -3/+2Terrorism is a response to "shock and awe". How do you fight a military 10000x bigger than yours? Guerrilla warfare. Make them spend themselves to bankruptcy. They'll devolve and become the very things they claim to be fighting against. Killing civilians and terrorizing a nation.
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -3/+6In war, when an enemy is killed it is never defined or reffered to as an assasination. To state it thusly is to obfuscate the truth of what has occured. One could only infer from your comment that you are at best a sideline simpathizer and at worst one of them. Get a grip. These people would love nothing better than to kill you and everything that you hold dear. If we do not protect ourselves from each and every one of them (pre-emtively or otherwise) we are all at risk.
- mike17032, on 02/13/2008, -4/+10We accomplished one more dead piece of *****.
- lgfaphile, on 02/13/2008, -18/+38Another butcher meets his end. I like how the media keeps calling him a "militant". This was too good for him.
- likes2comment, on 02/13/2008, -21/+14Where do we find 70 virgin sheep or goats in the middle east? Is that even possible?
- elvenseven, on 02/13/2008, -20/+8I predict Iran invasion very soon. I'm not choosing sides, but this pattern comes pre-Afghanistan war. We are reminded to hate the Muslims.
- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -4/+11No we are reminded to hate horrible murderers
- Buelldozer, on 02/13/2008, -5/+8I predict that you're talking out of your hat. Luckily for me the empirical evidence supports my theory.
- Buelldozer, on 02/13/2008, -3/+8Yes, I'm being Dugg down because the last 400 times an Iranian invasion has been brought up on Digg it's been proven true. Oh wait...no it hasn't!
Talking hats like slvrbullet87 bring this up AT LEAST once per day on Digg, even going so far as to predict dates and times. So far they've been wrong at least 400 times.
So Digg me down for not subscribing to the lastest bogus "We're about to invade teh Iran!!!111!!! OMG!!!11!!!" theory. It doesn't make you right when you do it, it just makes you vindictive. - Buelldozer, on 02/13/2008, -3/+6Dammit! I put slvrbullet87 in my last post but I obviously meant elvenseven.
- Buelldozer, on 02/13/2008, -3/+8Yes, I'm being Dugg down because the last 400 times an Iranian invasion has been brought up on Digg it's been proven true. Oh wait...no it hasn't!
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7I'm sure many Muslims hate terrorists too...
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+4. . . with very good reason and lots of evidence.
- elig, on 02/13/2008, -13/+27I am filled with the urge to run cheering through the streets and handing out candies!
Good ***** riddance. - Robopath, on 02/13/2008, -8/+13Israeli comments have completely denied having a hand in this... not that I believe that, but I would like to know what source they have to by-line this as being Israeli.
One day the world is going to just decide they are done with these street thugs, and I hope that day is today.- slvrbullet87, on 02/13/2008, -6/+12Your right we should rise up and kill every last Hezbollah bastard
- nastronomical, on 02/13/2008, -17/+20Liberal apologist will start profusely gnashing their teeth in 3..2..1
- pussnuts, on 02/13/2008, -12/+21BOOMSHAKALAKA
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+5. . . Mow 'em down, you Tarheel warriors, mow 'em down!
- nastronomical, on 02/13/2008, -18/+17Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust- Kizilbash, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2What was that crap I just read the other day? Something about 'we' not dancing when bombs hit 'the Arabs', unlike 'the Arabs' who are all dancing in the streets when bombs hit Israel?
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+5Right, because a 50-something years old ladie in a shopping mall is exactly the same as a terrorist mastermind.
And you don't see nobody passing the candy.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -0/+5Right, because a 50-something years old ladie in a shopping mall is exactly the same as a terrorist mastermind.
- Kizilbash, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2What was that crap I just read the other day? Something about 'we' not dancing when bombs hit 'the Arabs', unlike 'the Arabs' who are all dancing in the streets when bombs hit Israel?
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -13/+21Who cares who kills a terrorist? May they all be blown to hell.
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -11/+4Define Terrorist.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -3/+11An individual without a state sponsor whose primary target is a civilian.
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -5/+4Exelent definitian
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -2/+13terrorist: noun - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -2/+7A terrorist? Maybe a group of people that walk around with AK-47's, set up checkpoints in neighborhoods and turn apartment complexes into war fortresses?
- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -5/+0idiot: uneducated or ignorant person
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2Inner-city crack dealers?
I've seen that in Chicago and Detroit.- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3Actually I do think gang members are terrorists. Luckily though they have no political clout.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -2/+8A person who is not a soldier in a regular militia who kills civilians in order to promote a political agenda?
- glasnostic, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2MOSSAD
- neko6, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1MOSSAD is a part of a regular militia, it is bound to the government of Israel.
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -2/+3Yeah, that "regular militia" thing is a stickler.
You have to dress up in an officially recognized war costume in order to not be a terrorist when you play the killing game.- neko6, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1If you are part of a regular military you are bound to rules and regulations, and your country is held liable for your actions.
When you're a terrorist, you have no liability.
- neko6, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1If you are part of a regular military you are bound to rules and regulations, and your country is held liable for your actions.
- glasnostic, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2MOSSAD
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -2/+5And while we're on definitions . . . .
Terrorist supporter = byronm
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -3/+11An individual without a state sponsor whose primary target is a civilian.
- deformation, on 02/13/2008, -9/+3A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but can’t afford an air force.
- byronm, on 02/13/2008, -11/+4Define Terrorist.
- endoccupation, on 02/13/2008, -18/+13And when Sharon finally stops breathing he will be remembered as a 'war hero'
- CoolWind, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2When are they going to let that poor bastard die?
- lgfaphile, on 02/13/2008, -2/+8...and rightly so.
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -1/+14Don't blame Sharon for Arab-on-Arab violence in Beirut.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4As he certainly is.
- neko6, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1He ended the occupation of Gaza, leading to Hamas takover and daily rockets on Israel (because otherwise Israel might have pulled out of the West Bank and the Palestinians couldn't cry occupation to the international community anymore).
You should love him...
- Digger1218, on 02/13/2008, -14/+20***** Awesome
- CyberBeast, on 02/13/2008, -10/+15Each dog has his day
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Or in the original Arabic, kul kalb biji yomo
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -7/+1Speaking of a Muslim as a dog.
How kosher of you.- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+7I see you don't understand the concept of "old sayings", do you?
You see, they are analogies used to illustrate facts of life. This particular one is very popular in the Arab world, incidentally. - neko6, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1Actually, "Kul kalb biji yomo" is an Arabic saying - so technically the Arabs were talking about themselves as dogs first.
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+7I see you don't understand the concept of "old sayings", do you?
- foopirata, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9Or in the original Arabic, kul kalb biji yomo
- ndfootball06, on 02/13/2008, -9/+14The sad thing about this story is that it has 1/3 the amount of diggs than stupid ass stories relating to trees
Next target: Osama... - Number23, on 02/13/2008, -11/+10Smell ya later douchebag.
- wright3279, on 02/13/2008, -8/+13But shouldn't we try talking to these people first (instead of killing them)? Establish a dialogue? So says Barak.
- PA42, on 02/13/2008, -0/+15If they are willing to talk. Hezbollah has made there position clear
- amightywind, on 02/13/2008, -15/+7You mean so says Barak Hussein. Is he not one of them?
- conrail, on 02/13/2008, -9/+6who the ***** dugg this up?
- dhVyse, on 02/13/2008, -6/+4Are you really that ignorant or just ***** retarded?
- Midtowner, on 02/13/2008, -8/+18Justice is served.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -17/+8Funny to see Israel and you anti-terrorist suckers praising on a car bombing !
Disgusting use of terror tactics.
No matter what the guy did, he surely killed less people than the Israeli or American jet fighters and rockets.
sick to read people licking off their computer screen after someones death.
Hope that lebanon finds unity WITH the Hezbollah.- lgfaphile, on 02/13/2008, -3/+9One of the wingnuts just spoke up.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -9/+2you make no sense, please elaborate ...
- theright, on 02/13/2008, -3/+8If it isn't jackieokennedy (and his sidekick, Zecchetti), the resident terrorist apologizers...
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -7/+2Condemning a car bombing here ... who's the terrorist i ask you ?
- czman, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6It would have been better if the guy would have been extrodited to the US (direct involvment in the TWA hijacking where a US citizen was killed), or extrodited to Argentina (ties to a sinagog bombing which killed tens of argentinian citizens). unfortunatly this guy was hiding for the last 20 years backed by Syria and Iran. Since there was no way to bring him to justice, what choice did anyone have?
- theright, on 02/13/2008, -2/+10I suggest you look up "terrorism" in a dictionary.
This attack was not aimed at, nor carried out with disregard for, civilians. To all intents and purposes, Mughniyeh was a combatant. The attack was not carried out for ideological reasons, nor was it designed to achieve political goals. It was not designed to instill fear or terror in civilians.
This was the targeted assassination of a known terrorist; a senior official in an internationally-recognised terrorist organisation, implicated in countless terrorist activities from kidnappings to hijackings and everything in-between.
- czman, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6It would have been better if the guy would have been extrodited to the US (direct involvment in the TWA hijacking where a US citizen was killed), or extrodited to Argentina (ties to a sinagog bombing which killed tens of argentinian citizens). unfortunatly this guy was hiding for the last 20 years backed by Syria and Iran. Since there was no way to bring him to justice, what choice did anyone have?
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -7/+2Condemning a car bombing here ... who's the terrorist i ask you ?
- dhVyse, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6Hezbollah and unity can't be used in the same sentence. They are a third rate militant group with unstable leadership that has used terrorism in the past to get what they want, and will gladly do it again.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -8/+2they have huge popular support, they were the only ones standing against , constitution stands that they must be actors of lebanon political process and veto power .... when i say Unity i dont mean "everybody behind Hzb", i mean they should be respected by the international community as a real interlocutor.
- czman, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1they are not an interlocuter at all. their opening position is "israel should not exist".
- Zacktopia, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3They are also an in-person nuclear device delivery system in waiting.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -8/+2they have huge popular support, they were the only ones standing against , constitution stands that they must be actors of lebanon political process and veto power .... when i say Unity i dont mean "everybody behind Hzb", i mean they should be respected by the international community as a real interlocutor.
- lgfaphile, on 02/13/2008, -3/+9One of the wingnuts just spoke up.
- ivandir, on 02/13/2008, -9/+5Is that the same as saying Hezbollah commander #334454 killed in Syrian Car Bomb? Someone else will take his place unless we reach a peace agreement in the region.
- poidh, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11There won't be peace until the Jews consent to lying down and dying as per what the Muslims want. Since that will never happen, there will never be peace.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -11/+3There will be peace when land will we fairly given to thos who need it.
When water will be shared
When roadblocks dismantled
When palestinian can freely move and live where they belong.
When people can live like human in this region, then there will be peace.
You cannot ask peace when you're beating on someones head?
Iit's all about land and freedom man, i only wish peace would come, but the situation is so unfair, you cannot blame these people for fighting. you cannot.- nirav72, on 02/13/2008, -2/+15Oh please. I'm no isreali. But I know one thing, isreal has tried hard to make concessions and give them back the land. The palestinians don't want just land. They want to see every single isreali wiped off the map. See how long they survive without isreal's economy. I don't see their brethren in jordan or syria helping out.
- neko6, on 02/13/2008, -2/+13Hmmm There USED to be no roadblocks and no aggressions and free water and set borders... Then the Arabs attacked and lost land. And then the Arabs attacked and lost more land. And then the Arabs REFUSED TO TAKE THE LAND BACK. And then the Arabs attacked once more.
Yeah, all Israel's fault. Maybe if they've blown the Arabs to smithereens in the first aggressive move there would have been peace for the last 60 years.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -11/+3There will be peace when land will we fairly given to thos who need it.
- poidh, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11There won't be peace until the Jews consent to lying down and dying as per what the Muslims want. Since that will never happen, there will never be peace.
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -8/+33Arabs are so dramatic. "How DARE you assassinate our assassin! The zionist octopus will be destroyed, rant rant rant rant......"
- benkrembs, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7Yeah, but come on -- Denmark made cartoons that made fun of Mohammad.
They clearly have legal grounds to destroy the zionist octopus.
- benkrembs, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7Yeah, but come on -- Denmark made cartoons that made fun of Mohammad.
- elpasoGuy, on 02/13/2008, -12/+6What a mess of a world when Government Officials rejoice when they hear of a terroristic act killing off a "enemy" . And please we all know who was behind this ... so you they have to sink down to the level of terror to get things done .... ***** pathetic , why even have diplomacy then , the hell with all governments for that matter right? ...
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -10/+3lebanon is at the verge of a civil war, and all Israel finds to do is a terrorist act, bombing a car in foreign city.
This is all messed up, helps nothing, except rejoyce some lunatics across the world who get off when they read about an arab dying, and wish to waterboard every single arab just to make sure they're terrorist or not.
Insane.
What brain can lead "car bombing, 1 dead " to " yes! good move ! "
how is that helping ? You're fueling the very fire who ***** stood against israel (america) super army in 2006 with knives and rocks.- czman, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7this didn't happen in Lebanon. IT HAPPENED IN SYRIA.
BIG DIFFERENCE.- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -8/+1.... you're kidding right ?
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -2/+4It did happen in Syria, what does that have to do with Lebanon? Unless you are one of the fools who believes Lebanon belongs to Syria?
- czman, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7this didn't happen in Lebanon. IT HAPPENED IN SYRIA.
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -1/+9This is the double standard of Israel haters. Syria is allowed to occupy Lebanon, and Hezbollah can blow up Israelis, but if Israel occupies Palestine and car bombs Hezbollah they are war criminals.
- gaia90210, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!
- work1, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5A little out of touch with reality are we? Who cares who did it!! The SOB is gone, and along with him any ideas or attacks he may have been planning. I'd like proof though... It may very well be that they staged this to let his trail run cold and drum up another round of strikes against the cruel heartless countries of Israel and USA... In the 2006 Hezbollah / Israeli conflict, 800 "civilians" died, and Israel held back their advance. Well, the guerrillas were using rooftops or homes etc.. to fire their Katusha rockets, which in turn got a retaliation from Israel, justified.. Israel targets fighters, the scum bag Muslims target the innocent civilians.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -10/+3lebanon is at the verge of a civil war, and all Israel finds to do is a terrorist act, bombing a car in foreign city.
- Daiken, on 02/13/2008, -17/+4buried for fox news
- GaDawg, on 02/13/2008, -6/+13Another one bites the dust.............
- nirav72, on 02/13/2008, -2/+11Move along folks nothing to see here. It was just an "accident".
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 02/13/2008, -7/+19Thank you Israel. Keep up the good (wet) work.
- ElbowGeek, on 02/13/2008, -11/+2Why bother reporting this? It's certain that he's been replaced already and the cycle of needless bloodshed and misery continues with no sign of abating. But even if this is a major blow to Hezbollah, another bunch of nutters has or will take it's place very soon. Why, because they live in a culture of violence and misery that pretty much perpetuates itself as it has for centuries, nay millennia. Only now the bombs are bigger and more destructive.
If they wanted to end this morass they would have done it already, but they haven't, so they don't. As far as I'm concerned, they can go on doing this til the end of time as long as they don't bother me with their madness. Stop posting news stories on the subject and call me when when they've decided that the little spat they've had for the past x-thousand years, the reason for which they completely forgotten, has finally ended.
Thank you.- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2Yes, America and Israel live in a culture of Violence.
Unlike Hezbollah they're not fighting for their land and their survival.
No matter what Hezbollah do, they will always be less evil than Israel and the United States, count the deads, man, count the deads ... you'll see who kills who ...
But i do agree, we need a real diplomatic understanding, we need people to talk in the region, not blow cars in the street, not bomb cities and airports, not put people in man made prisons.
Insane.
I hope Lebanon stands strong after this tragic event, and find unity, with the Hezbollah participation and their popular support against injustice.- HisStoryUn, on 02/13/2008, -2/+1Kumbaya will get you killed. Diplomatic understanding indeed...
- solid12345, on 02/13/2008, -1/+6Hezbollah fights for its survival? Israel pulled out of southern Lebanon in 2000, yet Hezbollah struck Israel once again?
The party of resistance has no excuse to exist if there is nothing left to resist against. - work1, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2Are you kidding? Israel has been fighting for their survival since 1948. We, the greatest, most just country there ever was, USA, win a war and give the land back to the conquered people to have them govern it. Hezbollah, Al Queda / Islam wants to crush anyone that disagrees with them, look at Africa, Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Iraq do I need to go on? Get off your thumb, you coward, and go out and thank a Marine for your right to be an idiot...
- nirav72, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5booohoo..one more dead. ***** him. Hope he gets ass raped by 72 virgins who turn out to be 300 lb dudes.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -4/+2Yes, America and Israel live in a culture of Violence.
- blacktriangle, on 02/13/2008, -16/+5Since when is FOX credible when dealing with any middle east issue? Buried.
- Ridgeliner7, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4Instead of trolling, and hating, if you had clicked the link, you would have seen the report was from Associated Press, reported by FoxNews.
- StillFly3, on 02/13/2008, -4/+16And Israel continues to do the rest of the world's dirty work ....
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -8/+3the 52nd state ?
- bjornski, on 02/13/2008, -4/+1No, they replaced Washington D.C. as the true capitol long ago.
- Iconoclast25, on 02/13/2008, -3/+2Gladly swap the population of Israel for any 50 million dimocraps in this country and give the Israelis, say, the PRK, PRNJ or some other deep blue state which currently has very little to recommend it. That would be at least a 'twofer.' The jihadists would have all their friends right next door and the US would have an immediate improvement in the domestic gene pool.
- Kizilbash, on 02/13/2008, -10/+3***** you. Without the Israeli invasion into Lebanon there would have been no Hezbollah. Israel is perfectly capable of creating its own enemies.
- DevilInPgh, on 02/13/2008, -1/+10And without the Operation Peace for Galilee, the PLO would have continued terrorist attacks from the Lebanon border. That just goes to show you how much of an idiot you are, when you don't even know the context.
- jackieokennedy, on 02/13/2008, -8/+3the 52nd state ?
- BuzzFriendly, on 02/13/2008, -7/+10Such irony and a fitting end. A terrorist dies by terrorism.
- fireman8871, on 02/13/2008, -3/+17Good, he had it coming!
- ssa12, on 02/15/2008, -6/+0Here is a little info on something that my family has seen Israel do. Now i don't report this to take sides but just for informational purpose only. I am a Pali but first i am human so i take only the side of humanity and not of race, culture, religion etc. There will always be wars and there will always be one person in power, that's life. When my mother was in Palestine in a town called Ramallah in the six day war she told me that the Israelis would rape the women and they almost got my aunt but she ran faster then the soldiers. I guess that's where i get my speed from. :-) The rest is what a typical power hungry human would do like beating and humiliating etc... Ladies and gentlemen until we see all people as equal there will always be conflict. No point in even discuss